Ripoff Reports

[Jrbigfish]

Empty your pockets? That is something that Leo says before busting a person. Spread out the the bills? So that a hidden camera could easily tape it? If this is what have been doing be careful.

Discuss the donation over the phone and then it is never necessary to discuss it again. When seeing a lady for the first time, shorty after arriving, empty your pockets and a nearby table or appropriate place. Take out your phone and keys, then place the donation a little ways away from your items. Spread the bills out a little, so it is obvious that the correct amount is there. Don't bring your wallet to a first appointment and don't carry more than $20 more than the donation. This way the lady can see the donation and can relax.

I find leaving the donation to afterwards ruins the fantasy more because the last thing I want to do after having a good time with a lady is deal with the donation. I want to say goodby, have a nice hug a be on my way without worrying about money.

So, in summary, if this is a first visit, put the donation down and both you and the lady can relax and have a good time.

[Jrbigfish]

Passuum 8 you mention that you have heard from other people about the no so present dreams and you wait until a bad report to metion that there could be a problem with her! You and her are smoking dad weed!

GM- Sorry to hear about your experience. I should mention that I have heard from a couple of others that their experience involved some drama but more like the type that I reported on (some flakiness, taking longer to get ready and leaving people waiting in the parking lot) and nothing that crazy. Not surprised to hear about the handlers given how new she is. The room being a mess though is totally different from when I was there. I even commented to her on how neat she was. Between the room and her behavior sounds like she's on something. Damn shame cause others verified the same performance that I had.

Guess I should hold my reports until after a couple visits, still learning here. I'll update my previous reports to let everyone know.

P8.

[Member #4166]

GM- Sorry to hear about your experience. I should mention that I have heard from a couple of others that their experience involved some drama but more like the type that I reported on (some flakiness, taking longer to get ready and leaving people waiting in the parking lot) and nothing that crazy. Not surprised to hear about the handlers given how new she is. The room being a mess though is totally different from when I was there. I even commented to her on how neat she was. Between the room and her behavior sounds like she's on something. Damn shame cause others verified the same performance that I had.

Guess I should hold my reports until after a couple visits, still learning here. I'll update my previous reports to let everyone know.

P8.

Well, after having been away in California for business for the past month, I thought I'd give Ivy a try, since she's right in my own back yard. She answered right away, and she gave me the impression that she was more than willing to give me what I wanted. I arrived at the appointed time, and called, but no answer. After several texts and calls, I was about to leave, and she tells me it will be another 30 minutes. I had taken an extra long lunch break from work to spend an hour with her, and now I was going to have to extend it longer. Finally, she texts me the room number. Yes, when the door opened, I was greeted by a gorgeous hot young woman in nothing but bra and panties, but that was the only good thing to happen! She was holding a cigarrette, and the room reeked of smoke and stale food. It looked like a tornado had hit it, and she had even attempted to make herself up, even though that was one of my requests she agreed to. When she closed the door, I noticed she had somehow wrapped the curtain around the door knob, and she was constantly texting on her phone. Not a good sign! If you have read any of my rip-off reviews on tee eeee are, you'll know that having a Provider constantly texting when she's suppose to be paying attention to you is not a good sign. Furthermore, she actually spend another 5 full minutes just texting on her phone and smoking, without so much as a glance towards me. My instincts told me to be very careful, and when I inquired as to her promises to fulfill my requests, that's when the "up-grades" started happening. I politely told her I'm not interested and started walking towards the door. She immediately runs to the door and asks if I was leaving. I told her that she had kept me over 30 minutes waiting, and then another 5 minutes while she smoked and texted, and now she wanted more, so I wasn't interested. She then states that I had already been there 10 minutes and that I owe her $ for her time. I laughed at her and reached for the door handle, and that's when she says she's calling her pimp and he's going to take care of me. She actually grabbed hold of my shirt to try to hold me, and I just grabbed the phone from her and tossed it to the other end of the room, at which point she had to let go to get it, and I then noticed she had cut a hole in the curtain and pulled it over the door lever. I just ripped it off and was out of there in a flash! I noticed to brawny black men coming towards the parking lot as I drove off, giving them both the finger! Yes, I realized that YMMV, and that Passun8's review of Ivy in the Positive Report section says he had a good experience, but this girl is dangerous! She's got two handlers, and she's brazen enough to try to muscle money from Clients. I've reviewed on several sites for many years, and I don't need to justify myself to anyone. I want all of us to have a safe and fun journey. Mongers, be very careful out there. Ivy is definitely off my list!

[SW Surfer]

Wow, glad you made it out of there. I just had the same thing happen in ATL. My issue was the girl smelt like she shit herself.

Well, after having been away in California for business for the past month, I thought I'd give Ivy a try, since she's right in my own back yard. She answered right away, and she gave me the impression that she was more than willing to give me what I wanted. I arrived at the appointed time, and called, but no answer. After several texts and calls, I was about to leave, and she tells me it will be another 30 minutes. I had taken an extra long lunch break from work to spend an hour with her, and now I was going to have to extend it longer. Finally, she texts me the room number. Yes, when the door opened, I was greeted by a gorgeous hot young woman in nothing but bra and panties, but that was the only good thing to happen! She was holding a cigarrette, and the room reeked of smoke and stale food. It looked like a tornado had hit it, and she had even attempted to make herself up, even though that was one of my requests she agreed to. When she closed the door, I noticed she had somehow wrapped the curtain around the door knob, and she was constantly texting on her phone. Not a good sign! If you have read any of my rip-off reviews on tee eeee are, you'll know that having a Provider constantly texting when she's suppose to be paying attention to you is not a good sign. Furthermore, she actually spend another 5 full minutes just texting on her phone and smoking, without so much as a glance towards me. My instincts told me to be very careful, and when I inquired as to her promises to fulfill my requests, that's when the "up-grades" started happening. I politely told her I'm not interested and started walking towards the door. She immediately runs to the door and asks if I was leaving. I told her that she had kept me over 30 minutes waiting, and then another 5 minutes while she smoked and texted, and now she wanted more, so I wasn't interested. She then states that I had already been there 10 minutes and that I owe her $ for her time. I laughed at her and reached for the door handle, and that's when she says she's calling her pimp and he's going to take care of me. She actually grabbed hold of my shirt to try to hold me, and I just grabbed the phone from her and tossed it to the other end of the room, at which point she had to let go to get it, and I then noticed she had cut a hole in the curtain and pulled it over the door lever. I just ripped it off and was out of there in a flash! I noticed to brawny black men coming towards the parking lot as I drove off, giving them both the finger! Yes, I realized that YMMV, and that Passun8's review of Ivy in the Positive Report section says he had a good experience, but this girl is dangerous! She's got two handlers, and she's brazen enough to try to muscle money from Clients. I've reviewed on several sites for many years, and I don't need to justify myself to anyone. I want all of us to have a safe and fun journey. Mongers, be very careful out there. Ivy is definitely off my list!

[GenevaMan]

Ya just never know what gems are hiding out there unless you take a chance now and then. Soooo many times its a fake and flake that ends with disappointment, but not this time. Having that dream of finding that hot, young talented spinner that's tight, fresh, clean, sweet and eager paid off in spades today.

First off, I got to say that this was a roller coaster ride like I've never had in the short few years I have been involved in this hobby. It started with scanning the usual ads on this lazy Sunday morning with plans later that evening to hang out with a bud in CC beach. I scanned the ads between here and there and came across an ad from a few days earlier on the BP space coast section that had no pics and a vague description. Took a chance, called and asked for pics to be texted. Got two, one of which you see attached here. The other has a face pic which I won't post due to her request that no face pics be posted in public, but trust me on this. Her face is as golden as her ass is round. My first thought of course was "no way are those really her pics". But would be damn nice if they were. BUT, what IF? Right? I fired off a text asking for a guarantee that the pics were her, thinking that would be the last I would hear from her. Instead I get a reply with the guarantee I asked for, with a promise that they were real and were of her.

I still didn't really believe it but with no other plans made at this point I figured that I could stop by and at least check it out since it was on the way to my buddy's place. There would be nothing lost if it wasn't her and I'd simply bow out and save the change. Things got pretty interesting from this point but I'll spare you the little details and just hit the highlights. I get to her motel a few minutes early and spot two unmarked LEO's pulling in very shortly after I did. That coupled with some miss-communication on her part and. RED FLAG. No go, change of plans. Exit stage right. I send off a quick text to cma saying there was a misunderstanding and that I had only wanted a massage and I left. So I am down the road a short ways about to get back on the freeway when I get a text saying "I do massages too". I know that after all this I should have kept driving towards my buddies place and call it an adventure. I knew that right then. But, curiosity was about to kill this cat. Or. Reward me richly. LOL.

She texts me the room number and as I am walking up to the room with visions of my Altamonte experience running through my head and the adrenalin surging through my body when I get to the door and knock. The door opens and there was this smoking HOT young woman, just like the pictures, standing there in this cute, short beach dress with amazing long, shapely legs. There was a typical LEO check, with great relief on my part, but it wasn't enough to settle my nerves. The pics were real but how would the rest go? Would it be strictly business like? Would there be lots of rules? Would I get rushed out the door?

I tried like hell to let all those thoughts go but after all that I had just been through to get there it had definitely affected me. I hadn't thought that part through. If she hadn't been so sweet, laid back and understanding it would have been a total disaster on my part. We laid on the bed and she gave me some time to collect myself while we talked about what had happened up to that point. In a very relaxed manner she completely put my mind at ease. Some time passed and she slowly peeled off that dress to reveal that same amazing body from the pictures. Unfortunately, I just could not rise to the occasion like I ordinarily would have at such a beautiful sight. She just took it in stride and in less than a minute had me at full attention. She started with a sensuous, slow to start and amazing BBBJ that was truly magnificient! I can't describe this in OP style how it all went from here but everything she did, the way she moved from each event, position, from one to the other was fluid and very sensous. Definitely enjoys what she does judging from the soft moans and the way her body reacted. Like a GFE with just the right amount of pse thrown in there. It could have been more of an pse experience than it was had it not been for the affect that the adrenalin had on my body but I finished early, definitely wanting more, but unable to do more.

To make a comparison here, she is close in looks and laid back attitude to Gia01. Ivy is equally hot to Gia and has a little better skills. Almost unbelievably, she says she is very new to this. She could, and may well become a real star in this business if she wants to. It's a bit of a drive from Orlando for most but if you want a truly memorable experience for a very reasonable donation I highly recommend and since I get out that way frequently hope to repeat as much as I can afford to time and change wise.

If you get the chance to see her the full hour is well worth it.

P8.

Local girl looking to show you a great time. 21.

http://spacecoast.backpage.com/Femal...ime-21/4781946

321-591-8249.

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Well, after having been away in California for business for the past month, I thought I'd give Ivy a try, since she's right in my own back yard. She answered right away, and she gave me the impression that she was more than willing to give me what I wanted. I arrived at the appointed time, and called, but no answer. After several texts and calls, I was about to leave, and she tells me it will be another 30 minutes. I had taken an extra long lunch break from work to spend an hour with her, and now I was going to have to extend it longer. Finally, she texts me the room number. Yes, when the door opened, I was greeted by a gorgeous hot young woman in nothing but bra and panties, but that was the only good thing to happen! She was holding a cigarrette, and the room reeked of smoke and stale food. It looked like a tornado had hit it, and she had even attempted to make herself up, even though that was one of my requests she agreed to. When she closed the door, I noticed she had somehow wrapped the curtain around the door knob, and she was constantly texting on her phone. Not a good sign! If you have read any of my rip-off reviews on tee eeee are, you'll know that having a Provider constantly texting when she's suppose to be paying attention to you is not a good sign. Furthermore, she actually spend another 5 full minutes just texting on her phone and smoking, without so much as a glance towards me. My instincts told me to be very careful, and when I inquired as to her promises to fulfill my requests, that's when the "up-grades" started happening. I politely told her I'm not interested and started walking towards the door. She immediately runs to the door and asks if I was leaving. I told her that she had kept me over 30 minutes waiting, and then another 5 minutes while she smoked and texted, and now she wanted more, so I wasn't interested. She then states that I had already been there 10 minutes and that I owe her $ for her time. I laughed at her and reached for the door handle, and that's when she says she's calling her pimp and he's going to take care of me. She actually grabbed hold of my shirt to try to hold me, and I just grabbed the phone from her and tossed it to the other end of the room, at which point she had to let go to get it, and I then noticed she had cut a hole in the curtain and pulled it over the door lever. I just ripped it off and was out of there in a flash! I noticed to brawny black men coming towards the parking lot as I drove off, giving them both the finger! Yes, I realized that YMMV, and that Passun8's review of Ivy in the Positive Report section says he had a good experience, but this girl is dangerous! She's got two handlers, and she's brazen enough to try to muscle money from Clients. I've reviewed on several sites for many years, and I don't need to justify myself to anyone. I want all of us to have a safe and fun journey. Mongers, be very careful out there. Ivy is definitely off my list!

[Ricky James1]

I don't believe I would ever 'empty my pockets and take out my phone and keys' when seeing a provider for the first time. I'm definitely keeping all that on me in case something goes wrong and I need to bolt since it's the first time and I wouldn't really know her.

Discuss the donation over the phone and then it is never necessary to discuss it again. When seeing a lady for the first time, shorty after arriving, empty your pockets and a nearby table or appropriate place. Take out your phone and keys, then place the donation a little ways away from your items. Spread the bills out a little, so it is obvious that the correct amount is there. Don't bring your wallet to a first appointment and don't carry more than $20 more than the donation. This way the lady can see the donation and can relax.

I find leaving the donation to afterwards ruins the fantasy more because the last thing I want to do after having a good time with a lady is deal with the donation. I want to say goodby, have a nice hug a be on my way without worrying about money.

So, in summary, if this is a first visit, put the donation down and both you and the lady can relax and have a good time.

[Jethrow1]

Quote" "please let the guys know not to go to he girl on CL in the hotel on 192 I think he said it was the central hotel he responded to her ad and was robbed by two black guys when she opened the door"

That gal I know in Poincianna emailed me about rip off on 192, above is her quote, I told her to post it also.

[MongerDude]

I had a great time with her, and I am not her pimp. My guess is that for. 8 a massage is all she was willing to do. The first time I saw her she did something similar by only offering head relief so I went for it and it was awesome, then the next time FS was incredible.

[Member #4170]

Thanks for all of the good advice and ideas both here and pm. Like I said, this is a learning experience and I suppose sometimes the only way to learn is to make mistakes. I have never asked for I'd as it seemed like an intrusion. The least I know the better as far as some things are concerned.

Goddess you give solid advice and ty for your kind guidance. I never really considered that someone saying this was their first time was a red flag but that is exactly how this situation happened. Oh well, live and learn I suppose.

[Nuttz]

This ripoff is posting new pics and has a few #'s. No matter how good she looks in these pics she's still going to rob everyone. If you insist on seeing her and she asks for donation and says she has to go give it to her pimp or excuses herself she will run. If she tries that just say " I hear you have a warrant out of pasco" I allmost guarantee she will give money back or follow through with the services. If not just check my other posts and feel free to turn her in.







New # 727-238-6380.

Others include 727-688-6906 and 727-410-3919

[PeterPiper52]

First and Foremost I always suggest screening a client.

A legal I'd check is useless in my opinion. I know for a fact ladies who have asked for I'd, been presented one, then arrested shortly thereafter.

I suggest asking any gentleman suitor for reference of other ladies he has seen that can simply vouch for him.

If they say it is their first time they are usually full of crap.

I suggest making sure the ladies he gives as references are on the up and up as well.

Google is a very handy tool to check out the ladies.

Important tip: Email the lady at the email she has on her site or her reviews.

Phone calls for references is frowned upon by most ladies and it's not as verifiably safe as a email.

This being "Anyone can be holding that phone"

Make sure the reference is a LEGIT ESCORT WITH A HISTORY.

References help you avoid bad clients, belive me!

As far as getting the donation up front, do not belive that if you don't take the donation up front or touch it that it will save you from jail.

It won't LOL.

If vice has booked a session they are taking you to jail whether you touch that donation or not.

Do not believe that an LE check will save you, they can show you their ding dong all they want.

Again with referencing a client to make sure he is safe and sane you generally avoid these donation issues.

Ask the client to set the donation down before he relaxes.

Go with you gut intuition, if the client is acting funny check the donation.

Things to look for:

Fast Talkers.

Clients trying to rush.

Clients trying to ask for a million services in a short amount of time

Clients that check all around for a pimp pretending to be paranoid can sometimes be preparing to rip you off or rob you.

Gentlemen do not take this offensively, I speak this because this is something that happens.

They are checking to see if their is anyone around to prevent them from whatever they are planning to do.

This can include: Rape, robbery, short donation, violence, threats and etc.

Watch for money that is crumpled up in a ball.

They do this to make it look like it's more than what's there.

This come's from the school of hard knocks, alot of us have learned this the hard way and this advice belive me is worth it's weight in gold.

There is nothing wrong with asking a gentleman for references, if he get's an attitude about it then count it as a good insight to the person you were about to invite into your home or hotel.

I have been cussed out for asking for references and thank you to the guys who let me know they were pricks ahead of time instead of me wasting my time on them.

These gentlemen do their background checks on us ladies, they look for reviews and any other information to find out of they are in danger or wasting their time, money etc.

Why would you not do your homework as well.

Any other questions feel free to pm me. Hope this helps.

I'm definitely with you on the I'd thing. It makes me laugh when I hear of a provider who wants to see an I'd. What will that tell her? Really. Nothing. Just like hobbyists have monger phones, hobbyists can also get monger I'd's. It's not that hard to do.

When I was employed by the DoD, and had a deployment overseas, I always had an I'd with a different name on me. That was just S. O. P for the agency.

[Otwist]

Goddess, I am not sure that I agree with you on all this point. I have been hobbying for several years now. It is easy for me to get references from legit providers. Once that is done, I don't expect to have the donation verified or checked before the session. I don't like the whole upfront nature of the paperwork exchange, somehow sours the mood and makes it less spontaneous. Can't the gents have a little fantasy time?

I have not had a problem with this except with the few times that I weakened and saw an inexperienced provider who demanded the donation up front, sometimes counting it. Most of the ladies I see can figure out I am trustworthy in this regard, as I can with their end of the deal. So yeah, much to Bill Clinton and Barack Obama's disappointment, character does matter.

Just MHO.

Discuss the donation over the phone and then it is never necessary to discuss it again. When seeing a lady for the first time, shorty after arriving, empty your pockets and a nearby table or appropriate place. Take out your phone and keys, then place the donation a little ways away from your items. Spread the bills out a little, so it is obvious that the correct amount is there. Don't bring your wallet to a first appointment and don't carry more than $20 more than the donation. This way the lady can see the donation and can relax.

I find leaving the donation to afterwards ruins the fantasy more because the last thing I want to do after having a good time with a lady is deal with the donation. I want to say goodby, have a nice hug a be on my way without worrying about money.

So, in summary, if this is a first visit, put the donation down and both you and the lady can relax and have a good time.

[Goddess]

I don't post very much here, but wanted to take the time to say that this is valuable information for any ladies out there, especially the ones just starting out.

As a client, I have contradictory opinions about screening. Sometimes references can be a pain to finagle. I always like to let the lady I am using as a reference have a "head's up" so that she is not taken off-guard that she may be pinged by another provider. On the other hand, if a lady I have never met before does no screening whatsoever, I actually get a little nervous. Could she be LE? Is she conducting her business in a discreet and safe manner? I know, hard to please me, LOL!

Light screening is a win-win for both providers and clients, IMHO.

It's always polite to give a heads up and I find that emailing or pm'ing a reference is the best method

When a lady calls and just starts asking questions about a client our first reaction is, Is this the wife?

Most ladies I know throughout the nation prefer this method as well.

It keeps everyone safe for the most part.

For us ladies, we enter the session with that edge taken off feeling a bit more relaxed.

Which I believe makes for a entirely better session, it's already nerve racking enough meeting a stranger LOL.

When both ends come into it mutually feeling a bit safer they can relax and enjoy each other's company better

[Littleshyguy]

First and Foremost I always suggest screening a client.

I don't post very much here, but wanted to take the time to say that this is valuable information for any ladies out there, especially the ones just starting out.

As a client, I have contradictory opinions about screening. Sometimes references can be a pain to finagle. I always like to let the lady I am using as a reference have a "head's up" so that she is not taken off-guard that she may be pinged by another provider. On the other hand, if a lady I have never met before does no screening whatsoever, I actually get a little nervous. Could she be LE? Is she conducting her business in a discreet and safe manner? I know, hard to please me, LOL!

Light screening is a win-win for both providers and clients, IMHO.

[Goddess]

Goddess, I am not sure that I agree with you on all this point. I have been hobbying for several years now. It is easy for me to get references from legit providers. Once that is done, I don't expect to have the donation verified or checked before the session. I don't like the whole upfront nature of the paperwork exchange, somehow sours the mood and makes it less spontaneous. Can't the gents have a little fantasy time?

I have not had a problem with this except with the few times that I weakened and saw an inexperienced provider who demanded the donation up front, sometimes counting it. Most of the ladies I see can figure out I am trustworthy in this regard, as I can with their end of the deal. So yeah, much to Bill Clinton and Barack Obama's disappointment, character does matter.

Just MHO.

However a new lady needs time to build those gut instincts and client intuition's that some of us have learned.

In the meantime if someone is new to this, to avoid problems I think asking the donation to be set in sight isn't a bad idea.

Albeit, this is intended for good provider's that actually care about developing a good repore.

For someone new like Shelbie, not getting the donation up front or knowing if the guy was okay. Ended up in her being the one ripped off.

When this happens habitually to new girls, they develop a bad attitude and burn out fast.

Being paranoid will burn a provider out faster than anything else because it is stress related which affects the body in so many ways.

I am sure you are a great client and would make a lady comfortable, these suggestions are for when your radar is up.

It's all about referencing in my opinion.

And most ladies would agree.

Since I have started checking references to make sure someone is safe and sane I have had 99% less problems as opposed to not checking references and having a 50/50 chance of a issue every appointment.

Especially in orlando.

There are alot of good guy's on this forum but there are alot of real dirtbags that book appointments as well.