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[VerySlowly]

I think Fellow Guy is correct, lets move on. But there is one thing I won't let go. VS I think your tendancy to get personal is counter productive for this forum. You insinuate that because I have a different opinion that you I must be less intelligent. Thats pompous and arrogant, which are hardly signs of an enlightened mind. You are entitled to your opinion as I am to mind. If you want to state something as fact show me the data that proves the causal relationship you claim. Not some anecdotal "Someone posted about Bliss then Bliss got busted" but a rigorous analysis of public records of police action and the archives of this board and prove your claim. Until you do that, all you are doing is stating an opinion.

Next you'll want me to prove there is a GOD. Everything most people "ABSOLUTELY KNOW" is based on "Belief". You didn't answer my question brother where did they get sufficient information with which to proceed, to mount the operation, these "Raids" are planned and executed and are never done on the spur of the moment unless there is immediate danger and of course MP's don't fall into that category. And of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion and everything I say is my opinion but I can't help thinking when I add 2+2 together I keep getting 4. And I will say no more on the subject because it is like asking someone to change their religion, I say believe whatever works for you but always remember be it politician or priest they want you to believe what works for THEM-VS

[Seminole John]

OK fine lets not bring Brevard into the discussion. There are are places in Orange and Seminole that have been reviewed and are still in operation. I think we can all agree that nothing posted on this board will be evidence in court. So at worst all this site can do is make them aware of providers. Are you guys seriously suggest LEO is unaware of these other places? As soon as a AMP or provider post an ad the cops know who they are. The cops will only act on that if there are complaints beacuse they know its a joke to. The cops don't really want to wast time on this because they know in all likelyhood any girl they bust will be bailed out before they are done with their paperwork. Does LEO get info off this board. Probably. Does anything posted here lead directly to police action, probably not.

Different Cities, different Countys all have different "enforcement" policies and prorities. The city police Chiefs and County Sheriff's set the agenda for thier jurisdicition. They will team up, aka "MBI" when they want to get on TV to make the public feel good about all the money they are really wasting by going after AMP's or some other sexy catchy TV headline. Ocean was open only a month AFTER these explicit postings occured. Other AMP's were quickly raided after similar detailed postings that occured on this Board. While we don't actually know the details, come on people, don't you see a pattern here?

Seminole County has not and will never elect a Democrat even for Dog Catcher, those tight-ass Republicans there would vote for Rush Limbaugh instead of FDR if he was alive.

Look out, we're all screwed when Grady Judd runs for Governor in 2014. Ooooh Nooooo!

[Oboy1]

I hope this discussion is nearing its end. This is what I've learned: 1) Ocean Spa is now closed (along with Total Relaxation) and 2) this is a bulletin board where we are supposed to talk about sex in the USA. A hundred more posts implying blame or defending people won't change either of the 2 facts.

My goal is to find a place and write a new review today.

Fg

Lets do this brother!

[Cbs200]

I have a question, if LE didn't get their info about "Ocean" and the FS that was going on there, then were in the hell did they get it from? They were around a month, and got raided, according to eye witness accounts, on this site. Personally I have never see as many posts blatantly saying what they got and from who as I've seen about "Ocean". And there is no direct correlation? Please-VS

They might have received compalints from neighboring businesses or from a religious nut in the area. Or maybe they did not bribe or offer free service to the right people. Or a local MP operator with better poltical connections decided to drive these out of towners away. Like you said, its all politics and a lot of stuff happens behind the scenes which the public does not see.

[Steve Pope]

Seminole John: Trying to get intellectual and develop correlations is for the logical mind. Comparing Brevard to Seminole and Orange county is laughable. There was a FS "mens Club" called the Boardroom across the street from the police station in Cocoa for 20 years. She even advertised with a billboard on I-95 south. She was eventually closed and replaced with an AMP. And there are still openly FS places in Brevard, are Brevard police stupid? Nope they are not. Police do not operate independently, Chiefs are appointed, Sheriffs are elected, either way they are at the.

Mercy of the dominant political party and the funding they provide, how many of you know that if you wanted to run for a seat on the Seminole County Commission it would cost you over $3000 just to apply in fees alone? Thats before you spent a dime on your campaign, and without the support of a party or if you are a Democrat-YOU don't have a prayer. Are you starting to get the picture?

It is strictly politics my friend, Brevard County has an Air Force Base, this area of Florida has Disney and Universal and Sea World. See if you can make the correlation, I will not explain it to the board, if you don't get it, so be it.

I have a question, if LE didn't get their info about "Ocean" and the FS that was going on there, then were in the hell did they get it from? They were around a month, and got raided, according to eye witness accounts, on this site. Personally I have never see as many posts blatantly saying what they got and from who as I've seen about "Ocean". And there is no direct correlation? Please-VS

Different Cities, different Countys all have different "enforcement" policies and prorities. The city police Chiefs and County Sheriff's set the agenda for thier jurisdicition. They will team up, aka "MBI" when they want to get on TV to make the public feel good about all the money they are really wasting by going after AMP's or some other sexy catchy TV headline. Ocean was open only a month AFTER these explicit postings occured. Other AMP's were quickly raided after similar detailed postings that occured on this Board. While we don't actually know the details, come on people, don't you see a pattern here?

Seminole County has not and will never elect a Democrat even for Dog Catcher, those tight-ass Republicans there would vote for Rush Limbaugh instead of FDR if he was alive.

Look out, we're all screwed when Grady Judd runs for Governor in 2014. Ooooh Nooooo!

[Seminole John]

I think Fellow Guy is correct, lets move on. But there is one thing I won't let go. VS I think your tendancy to get personal is counter productive for this forum. You insinuate that because I have a different opinion that you I must be less intelligent. Thats pompous and arrogant, which are hardly signs of an enlightened mind. You are entitled to your opinion as I am to mind. If you want to state something as fact show me the data that proves the causal relationship you claim. Not some anecdotal "Someone posted about Bliss then Bliss got busted" but a rigorous analysis of public records of police action and the archives of this board and prove your claim. Until you do that, all you are doing is stating an opinion.

Seminole John: Trying to get intellectual and develop correlations is for the logical mind. Comparing Brevard to Seminole and Orange county is laughable. There was a FS "mens Club" called the Boardroom across the street from the police station in Cocoa for 20 years. She even advertised with a billboard on I-95 south. She was eventually closed and replaced with an AMP. And there are still openly FS places in Brevard, are Brevard police stupid? Nope they are not. Police do not operate independently, Chiefs are appointed, Sheriffs are elected, either way they are at the.

Mercy of the dominant political party and the funding they provide, how many of you know that if you wanted to run for a seat on the Seminole County Commission it would cost you over $3000 just to apply in fees alone? Thats before you spent a dime on your campaign, and without the support of a party or if you are a Democrat-YOU don't have a prayer. Are you starting to get the picture?

It is strictly politics my friend, Brevard County has an Air Force Base, this area of Florida has Disney and Universal and Sea World. See if you can make the correlation, I will not explain it to the board, if you don't get it, so be it.

I have a question, if LE didn't get their info about "Ocean" and the FS that was going on there, then were in the hell did they get it from? They were around a month, and got raided, according to eye witness accounts, on this site. Personally I have never see as many posts blatantly saying what they got and from who as I've seen about "Ocean". And there is no direct correlation? Please-VS

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[Fellow Guy]

I hope this discussion is nearing its end. This is what I've learned: 1) Ocean Spa is now closed (along with Total Relaxation) and 2) this is a bulletin board where we are supposed to talk about sex in the USA. A hundred more posts implying blame or defending people won't change either of the 2 facts.

My goal is to find a place and write a new review today.

Fg

[VerySlowly]

Seminole John: Trying to get intellectual and develop correlations is for the logical mind. Comparing Brevard to Seminole and Orange county is laughable. There was a FS "mens Club" called the Boardroom across the street from the police station in Cocoa for 20 years. She even advertised with a billboard on I-95 south. She was eventually closed and replaced with an AMP. And there are still openly FS places in Brevard, are Brevard police stupid? Nope they are not. Police do not operate independently, Chiefs are appointed, Sheriffs are elected, either way they are at the.

Mercy of the dominant political party and the funding they provide, how many of you know that if you wanted to run for a seat on the Seminole County Commission it would cost you over $3000 just to apply in fees alone? Thats before you spent a dime on your campaign, and without the support of a party or if you are a Democrat-YOU don't have a prayer. Are you starting to get the picture?

It is strictly politics my friend, Brevard County has an Air Force Base, this area of Florida has Disney and Universal and Sea World. See if you can make the correlation, I will not explain it to the board, if you don't get it, so be it.

I have a question, if LE didn't get their info about "Ocean" and the FS that was going on there, then were in the hell did they get it from? They were around a month, and got raided, according to eye witness accounts, on this site. Personally I have never see as many posts blatantly saying what they got and from who as I've seen about "Ocean". And there is no direct correlation? Please-VS

[Cbs200]

The differance between a smart man and a wise man. The smart man learns from his mistakes, The wise man learns from others. Again THEIR CLOSED

My religious belief does not say what day its comming, just its comming and belive me its comming!

Yes they are closed, but that does not mean that this board had anything to do with it.

If this board did not exist, they still might be closed because this is O-town and the powerful around here are paranoid that families will stop visiting the parks if they find out that people have sex here. This is just a wierd part of the country.

Regarding the end of the world, it will happen at the latest in 4 billion years when the sun becomes a red giant and swalllows the inner planets. In the meantime, there will probably be hundreds of mass extinction events from large meteorite impacts. But long before that, a new glacial period will again cover the continents of the northern hemisphere under thousands of feet of ice. That will not end the planet, but civilization will not likely survive. It will be welcome to the caveman days again.

But until then, enjoy your mongering activities!

[Bez191]

Gentlemen's:

About a week ago I stopped by Oriental, believing that perhaps things had changed since OS opened. While I was there, I asked for price info pretending to be someone that has never been there before. When I asked about TS the girl reply with something a bit crazy like this 'We give good clean massage, go next door'. I must confess that I never asked for any extended menu nor did I get a massage. I just asked if they had TS, Sauna or steam room, etc. After I repeated my question the chick tried to fix her response. At that point I figured that things had not change and told her that I was going to check out next door. I wouldn't be surprise that the whole LEO thing was initiated by Oriental. Apparently whatever 'few' clients they had, was moving next door because of their arrogant way of doing business and OC excellent customer satisfaction rating.

I would and recommend that all mongers stay away Oriental, even if they were the last spa standing.

Bez

[Seminole John]

VS I think you missed the point of what I was saying. I did not claim to know everything. In fact quite the opposite, it was that we don't know. You are correct the OC and Bliss are closed but we really don't know why they were raided. You must understand that correlation does not prove causation. My rooster crows every morning before sunrise. Does thatt means the crowing causes the sun to come up? The counter to that argument would be the fact there are many places that have had explicit reviews on here that have not been raided. If you look at the Brevard board there are places where detailed blow by blow details of what went down with what girl. Some of these places have been around 30 years and have never had issues with authorities. Others have been busted several times. I think that has more to do with owners relationships with authorites than what is said on this board and others like it. In terms of OS or Bliss or any other place in Orlando I would more faith in that correlation than whats posted hear.

Ocean Spa is closed!

All of a sudden everyone on here is a expert on"Leo this and Leo that" "Court of Law"

"can't prove this and that" "nothing said on this board means anything"

Some of you don't get it! OC is closed and it don't make a dam why-they are closed- the Govt. Won, they are closed, the Govt won, we lose. Thats all that matters. You guys talk about proving in " a court of law" BULLSHIT over 90% of all cases are plea bargained, NOTHING HAD TO BE PROVED.

Seminole John- I posted about Bliss, you don't have a clue and I know every tiny detail-NOTHING WAS PROVED, CHARGES WERE NEVER FILED, Altamonte's giant raid was without warrant and absolutely not one speck of their "case" held water, thus no charges filed, but the real point is THEIR CLOSED it has nothing to do with LE, their pressure comes from above, they would be very happy to write parking tickets and do their 20 yrs. And retire.

Your remark about body wraps means nothing all the girls were ABSOLUTELY LICENSED and knew how to qualify clients, in fact you qualified yourself and thus there needn't be any pretense and they were never charged with anything-but THEIR CLOSED. GET IT.

Some of you watch too much TV, that is not how the real world works. It is 100% political. Pressure comes from above, the patrol cops have told many a SW to get off the streets during their shift, they don't want to arrest her they just don't want to hear any shit from there superior for "not arresting her"

If you don't think running your mouth on here has any effect, then how come OS was closed so quickly and WP message has operated for 25 yrs. , ask yourself that? You rocket scientists.

It gets very tiring trying to get info into your heads when all you do is yak, yak when so many of you absolutely know nothing about the game.

Before Bliss opened, when the rumors started, I came on here and asked that there be very soft reviews and if you weren't happy, to speak to the mgr. Bingo, Loving 305 comes on here and posts a glorious review as did others. He probably thought he was doing a great thing but Bliss was closed 30 days later.

I hope some of you will get it but I bet overall you will not, I'm not going to debate this issue, nor speak of it again, I've said my piece but the bottom line is the PLACE IS CLOSED. It doesn't matter how or why, debate it for 100 yrs if you want but the place is closed. Do you maybe get it yet-VS

[Jringle22]

I was out on Colonial today and drove by Total Relaxation. They appear to be closed as well. Their "open" sign was off and there was a note on the door. I did not bother to get out and go read it but the the recent goings on and being the same owner it would make sense.

[A John]

The differance between a smart man and a wise man. The smart man learns from his mistakes, The wise man learns from others. Again THEIR CLOSED

My religious belief does not say what day its comming, just its comming and belive me its comming!

Yes they are closed, but others are making valid points that we don't know the full back story.

Unless someone has an OCSO source who tells them it was definitely this board, it could just as well have been another business in the area or a religious kook who complained about them. In that case they would still be closed even if this board did not exist.

Things like this make me thankful I live in Europe where the govt does not care what consenting adults do behind closed doors. Hopefully the US society will soon develop in this direction. Can't wait to see all the embarassed religious kooks when the world is still here on May 22nd.