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  1. #1706

    It's simple.

    once the possibility of **** girls (or boys) is mentioned, just hit delete.

    the way i read it, these guys were led to believe there would be kids involved, yet they went anyway. it's not entrapment in that case. if you saw a bag of cash fall out ofon the groud a wells fargo truck and took it. you'd still be convicted of theft, even if it wasn't you original intention to be a thief. these guys may be looking for adults when they log on, but once a kid was offered, they were willing to take the bait.

  2. #1705

    Yeah

    Quote Originally Posted by ShortFoot  [View Original Post]
    Entrapment? Very scary indeed, but doesn't the Craigslist warning / Disclaimer state you "must be at least 18 years to post an ad."
    That's what some of their lawyers are claiming, but that's little consolation to those dudes while they're being held in jail.

    * Another important thing to notice *. According to the guys that were busted, the online undercover cops were communicating with regular mongers who had answered ads that listed ADULTS offering services, but then in the middle of the e-mail conversations the undercover cops steered the conversations towards stuff like "Hey, why don't I bring some kids along for some extra fun".

    I don't know if it really went down like that and I am certainly not trying to excuse or condone these guys if they were trying to molest children, but if that story is true then a lot of guys on here could be at risk since they can't seem to say "NO" or walk away when something is fishy or not as advertised. For instance, a lot of guys on here go to a chick's room and see a chick that has no resemblance to the pictures they were sent (with the provider usually being a lot uglier and more repulsive) but they still go through with it anyway instead of just turning around and walking out.

  3. #1704
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1862
    entrapment? very scary indeed, but doesn't the craigslist warning / disclaimer state you "must be at least 18 years to post an ad."

    Quote Originally Posted by bobster man  [View Original Post]
    gents,

    be very, very careful.

    http://www.ajc.com/news/georgia-pedo...ts-915053.html

    georgia pedophile sting nets arrests, charges of entrapment.

    the atlanta journal-constitution.

    the 30 men in a murray county jail cell block didn't appear to be the usual kind of inmates locked up on an october weeknight in rural northwest georgia.

    'this was a group of people walking around shell-shocked and stunned about where they were, ' said steven donaldson, one of the inmates.

    it only took a few moments to realize the connection they all shared: craigslist. com.

    'this entire cell block is sex offenders, ' said donaldson, whose case is pending in federal court. 'i had one guy walk up to me and say, 'are you on craigslist? ' there were businessmen there. a man from chattanooga. a kid straight out of the navy. '

    these men claim they lead good lives and are not criminals. they insist they never planned to meet **** boys and girls for sex but were tricked or pressured by undercover officers to agree to a meeting.

    law enforcement officials, however, say these men are predators. police set things up, officials said, but those arrested could have just walked away from the electronic conversations once the person posing as a child admitted that they were ****.

    donaldson. 51, and other suspects were allegedly lured with promises of no-strings-attached sex with boys and girls in their teens and younger by a joint federal-local safe child task force that has made dozens of cases in northwest georgia and many more nationwide.

    most of the men walked into law enforcement traps when they responded to ads placed under wfm. women for men. in the "casual encounters" section on craigslist. com.

    the wording of the ads is benign."lonely & bored. take me away." "school's out. i'm simply bored to tears." "there must be somebody out there to take me away." "hey guys, we're back in town. looking forward to return engagements with old friends. drop us a line."

    but the follow-up emails are titillating with graphic sexual descriptions, according to accounts at trial and in court documents.

    law enforcement officials say these men are "predators" who can't help themselves. attorneys for some of the defendants disagree.

    "these guys are the real predators. they're bullies," said attorney mcneill stokes of the police. stokes is representing eight men arrested in the northwest georgia operation.

    "it's like the 'minority report'," stokes said, referring to the futuristic film about authorities who can read minds and make arrests before crimes are committed.

    authorities are stepping up efforts to catch these "travelers". suspects who travel great distances for arranged meetings. with a "proactive approach rather than a reactive approach," according to testimony that fbi agent kenneth hillman offered in one of the trials.

    hillman said in court he wanted to catch pedophiles before they can actually hurt a child.

    the fbi declined to discuss the operation, and local law enforcement officials were unable to say how many cases had been brought since this particular task force was created three years ago to operate in the sparsely populated northwest corner of the state.

    but those cases are now being brought to trial. a conviction could mean as many as 20 years in a state prison, or life if in federal court.

    in just one week in catoosa county, five cases were scheduled. only three men had gone on trial before time ran out for catoosa's spring term for court, and all were convicted.

    'there is no rational way in a normal person's mind to understand these guys, ' said conasauga judicial circuit district attorney kermit mcmanus, the prosecutor in neighboring murray and whitfield counties.

    mcmanus wonders why men continue to solicit **** girls and boys despite the media spotlight on such undercover operations. for example, a nbc news series,"to catch a predator," ran for years, showing men coming to meet young girls they had met on the internet for sex. the fbi has issued dozens of news releases announcing arrests and convictions that resulted from the work of the safe child task force.

    mcmanus said there is 'no pressure" put on the men to agree to meetings in isolated places."it's the choice they are making, ' mcmanus said.

    but stokes said local officers and federal agents are 'entrapping. lonely men who responded to ads placed on an adult craigslist site where the posters are certified to be over the legal age of 18. '

    they are drawn in by 'role-playing fantasies. they were not pedophiles, ' stokes said. 'they are enticing these people. they are just wrecking people's lives. they [law enforcement] are creating the crimes. '

    but a legal expert at emory law school, kay levine, said these operations are much like situations in which an undercover officer dresses like a hooker and walks the streets in areas known for prostitution. she said entrapment is almost impossible to prove.

    "it was decided several years ago. we didn't want to interfere with undercover officers," said levine, whose specialties include criminal procedure and sex crimes."the fact that the undercover officer is the first one to suggest illegal activity does not make the entrapment defense."

    augusta lawyer pete theodocion, who has defended several people accused of sex crimes involving children, agrees such law enforcement approaches are legal. still, 'there's something real wrong about law enforcement taking part in criminal activity that otherwise would not have taken place. . it's a unique and sometimes unsavory aspect of criminal prosecution. '

    dr. michael vitacco, a psychologist and assistant professor at the georgia health sciences university in augusta, said there are many reasons adult men pursue sexual encounters with **** girls and boys.

    "part of the issue clearly revolves around the easiness of the internet and the anonymity surrounding that," said vitacco, who has not evaluated any of the men charged in the georgia cases."children are much more accessible than they've ever been. these [internet] sites allow them to be predators in an anonymous way where they won't be accountable for their actions. these men often lack social skills. they find these children are their social equals."

    donaldson was an unemployed electrical engineer who had time to cruise the internet. his electronic exchanges started with an agent posing as adult. and after a few messages, the undercover agent suggested bringing a boy to the proposed sexual encounter.

    'we began talking about some adult role playing and he interjected, 'i've got a 12-year-old boy, ' and he sent me, without my asking, a picture, ' donaldson told the atlanta journal-constitution."he kept after me. one day i agreed but said 'i want to meet you in public. ' i never believed he had a kid. '

    their rendezvous was at a gas station just off interstate 75 in ringgold, where police were waiting. donaldson was in jail 40 days before getting out on bond; if convicted, he could spend the rest of his life in prison. no trial date has been set.

    legal experts have said for years that child molesters often are not caught until they are older, sometimes already senior citizens, and until then they have seemingly normal lives.

    "a lot people mask pedophile tendencies. they lead otherwise law-abiding lives. this is their secret addiction," levine said.

    the program is 'designed to ferret out these predators that are using the internet to make contact with **** girls for purposes of having sex with them, ' mcmanus said.

    otherwise, mcmanus said, these men 'don't have bad criminal records. most defendants are great people otherwise. they're great fathers, great workers, great breadwinners."

  4. #1703

    Entrapment on Craiglist. Warning

    gents,

    be very, very careful.

    http://www.ajc.com/news/georgia-pedo...ts-915053.html

    georgia pedophile sting nets arrests, charges of entrapment.

    the atlanta journal-constitution.

    the 30 men in a murray county jail cell block didn't appear to be the usual kind of inmates locked up on an october weeknight in rural northwest georgia.

    'this was a group of people walking around shell-shocked and stunned about where they were, ' said steven donaldson, one of the inmates.

    it only took a few moments to realize the connection they all shared: craigslist. com.

    'this entire cell block is sex offenders, ' said donaldson, whose case is pending in federal court. 'i had one guy walk up to me and say, 'are you on craigslist? ' there were businessmen there. a man from chattanooga. a kid straight out of the navy. '

    these men claim they lead good lives and are not criminals. they insist they never planned to meet **** boys and girls for sex but were tricked or pressured by undercover officers to agree to a meeting.

    law enforcement officials, however, say these men are predators. police set things up, officials said, but those arrested could have just walked away from the electronic conversations once the person posing as a child admitted that they were ****.

    donaldson. 51, and other suspects were allegedly lured with promises of no-strings-attached sex with boys and girls in their teens and younger by a joint federal-local safe child task force that has made dozens of cases in northwest georgia and many more nationwide.

    most of the men walked into law enforcement traps when they responded to ads placed under wfm. women for men. in the "casual encounters" section on craigslist. com.

    the wording of the ads is benign."lonely & bored. take me away." "school's out. i'm simply bored to tears." "there must be somebody out there to take me away." "hey guys, we're back in town. looking forward to return engagements with old friends. drop us a line."

    but the follow-up emails are titillating with graphic sexual descriptions, according to accounts at trial and in court documents.

    law enforcement officials say these men are "predators" who can't help themselves. attorneys for some of the defendants disagree.

    "these guys are the real predators. they're bullies," said attorney mcneill stokes of the police. stokes is representing eight men arrested in the northwest georgia operation.

    "it's like the 'minority report'," stokes said, referring to the futuristic film about authorities who can read minds and make arrests before crimes are committed.

    authorities are stepping up efforts to catch these "travelers". suspects who travel great distances for arranged meetings. with a "proactive approach rather than a reactive approach," according to testimony that fbi agent kenneth hillman offered in one of the trials.

    hillman said in court he wanted to catch pedophiles before they can actually hurt a child.

    the fbi declined to discuss the operation, and local law enforcement officials were unable to say how many cases had been brought since this particular task force was created three years ago to operate in the sparsely populated northwest corner of the state.

    but those cases are now being brought to trial. a conviction could mean as many as 20 years in a state prison, or life if in federal court.

    in just one week in catoosa county, five cases were scheduled. only three men had gone on trial before time ran out for catoosa's spring term for court, and all were convicted.

    'there is no rational way in a normal person's mind to understand these guys, ' said conasauga judicial circuit district attorney kermit mcmanus, the prosecutor in neighboring murray and whitfield counties.

    mcmanus wonders why men continue to solicit **** girls and boys despite the media spotlight on such undercover operations. for example, a nbc news series,"to catch a predator," ran for years, showing men coming to meet young girls they had met on the internet for sex. the fbi has issued dozens of news releases announcing arrests and convictions that resulted from the work of the safe child task force.

    mcmanus said there is 'no pressure" put on the men to agree to meetings in isolated places."it's the choice they are making, ' mcmanus said.

    but stokes said local officers and federal agents are 'entrapping. lonely men who responded to ads placed on an adult craigslist site where the posters are certified to be over the legal age of 18. '

    they are drawn in by 'role-playing fantasies. they were not pedophiles, ' stokes said. 'they are enticing these people. they are just wrecking people's lives. they [law enforcement] are creating the crimes. '

    but a legal expert at emory law school, kay levine, said these operations are much like situations in which an undercover officer dresses like a hooker and walks the streets in areas known for prostitution. she said entrapment is almost impossible to prove.

    "it was decided several years ago. we didn't want to interfere with undercover officers," said levine, whose specialties include criminal procedure and sex crimes."the fact that the undercover officer is the first one to suggest illegal activity does not make the entrapment defense."

    augusta lawyer pete theodocion, who has defended several people accused of sex crimes involving children, agrees such law enforcement approaches are legal. still, 'there's something real wrong about law enforcement taking part in criminal activity that otherwise would not have taken place. . it's a unique and sometimes unsavory aspect of criminal prosecution. '

    dr. michael vitacco, a psychologist and assistant professor at the georgia health sciences university in augusta, said there are many reasons adult men pursue sexual encounters with **** girls and boys.

    "part of the issue clearly revolves around the easiness of the internet and the anonymity surrounding that," said vitacco, who has not evaluated any of the men charged in the georgia cases."children are much more accessible than they've ever been. these [internet] sites allow them to be predators in an anonymous way where they won't be accountable for their actions. these men often lack social skills. they find these children are their social equals."

    donaldson was an unemployed electrical engineer who had time to cruise the internet. his electronic exchanges started with an agent posing as adult. and after a few messages, the undercover agent suggested bringing a boy to the proposed sexual encounter.

    'we began talking about some adult role playing and he interjected, 'i've got a 12-year-old boy, ' and he sent me, without my asking, a picture, ' donaldson told the atlanta journal-constitution."he kept after me. one day i agreed but said 'i want to meet you in public. ' i never believed he had a kid. '

    their rendezvous was at a gas station just off interstate 75 in ringgold, where police were waiting. donaldson was in jail 40 days before getting out on bond; if convicted, he could spend the rest of his life in prison. no trial date has been set.

    legal experts have said for years that child molesters often are not caught until they are older, sometimes already senior citizens, and until then they have seemingly normal lives.

    "a lot people mask pedophile tendencies. they lead otherwise law-abiding lives. this is their secret addiction," levine said.

    the program is 'designed to ferret out these predators that are using the internet to make contact with **** girls for purposes of having sex with them, ' mcmanus said.

    otherwise, mcmanus said, these men 'don't have bad criminal records. most defendants are great people otherwise. they're great fathers, great workers, great breadwinners."

  5. #1702

    Sasha Heart

    Hi guys in GA. Normally don't post even in my own state, but just to give some info since I couldn't find any out on the young lady before I met her. She is on BP and e. Com.

    Nice girl and attractive; the reality is she is more of a body rub girl with FS HE. She does give you a chance to run through her services in the beginning after she meets you which I should have known better than to dismiss since I was under my own assumptions of what would be available. For the 30 mins she is more than likely fine. However even with an hour, it's still only one pop and done which is my downside issue. If someone is interested in the girl and you're able to go round 2 in an hour, may as well let it happen. Again my fault in the beginning for not getting all info upfront and only looking to go for half hr. No DATY, can MATY. All covered. E. Com got rid of the interviews as well as their reviews so just filling you guys in so if someone does a search, this info may come up.

    Good luck W W

  6. #1701
    Banned Member


    Posts: 13634
    Quote Originally Posted by Ren Man  [View Original Post]
    Speaks for itself.

    http://www.bukkake-movie.com/orgy/bukkake-tgp3.html

    Maybe all of those ladies cumming at the same time is what caused the earthquake?
    I've seen that video and others similar to it. The sad thing is, those dorky looking Jap guys can get hot pussy over there, but an American gringo is prevented from sampling top shelf pussy. Go figure.

  7. #1700

    One of the wildest things I've seen!

    Speaks for itself.

    http://www.bukkake-movie.com/orgy/bukkake-tgp3.html

    Maybe all of those ladies cumming at the same time is what caused the earthquake?

  8. #1699

    CL Protocol

    Very Nice, I'm going to look that essay up, until then, my biggest issue was the pics.

    Thanks

  9. #1698

  10. #1697

    CLCE protocol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Suave City  [View Original Post]
    Nice!

    So whats the protocol for craigslist? Email Send Fake Pic receive Pic What do you say to counteract that fake pic you just sent. Some bullshit about protection and safety?

    Idk, about to give it a shot, But if someone has a formula let me know LOL.
    I wrote an essay here about my techniques. Maybe I'll find a chance to dig it up and repost it sometime. But if you can't wait, search my history. One hint. Be as close to honest as you can be without giving up too much compromising info. The ladies I'm trying to find are civilians who haven't done this sort of thing much. They're generally nervous and shy, and they can practically smell any hint of dishonesty on your part.

    Re pics: My initial face pic is totally real, but just ambiguous enough so she wouldn't recognize me on the street. I also have a black bar across my eyes! My big fear is that one of wifey's friends might be on the other end of the email, so I don't want to be too recognizable out of the gate.

  11. #1696
    Nice!

    So whats the protocol for craigslist? Email Send Fake Pic receive Pic What do you say to counteract that fake pic you just sent. Some bullshit about protection and safety?

    Idk, about to give it a shot, But if someone has a formula let me know LOL.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ren Man  [View Original Post]
    It's free, but it is a bit of work (and luck). Example, I've placed about 4 ads in the past 2 weeks. Fielded dozens of responses, most of whom were obvious spammers. With a couple of tire kickers. Then yesterday, I get an email from a fine-looking married woman from Norcross. Today she met me at lunch and fucked me like there was no tomorrow. Gave great head, and demanded that I hit it in her ass! And did I mention she was FINE? If she was a pro, she could get 3-400 easily. But she's not a pro. She's a neglected housewife giving it up for free!

  12. #1695
    Quote Originally Posted by Ren Man  [View Original Post]
    It's free, but it is a bit of work (and luck). Example, I've placed about 4 ads in the past 2 weeks. Fielded dozens of responses, most of whom were obvious spammers. With a couple of tire kickers. Then yesterday, I get an email from a fine-looking married woman from Norcross. Today she met me at lunch and fucked me like there was no tomorrow. Gave great head, and demanded that I hit it in her ass! And did I mention she was FINE? If she was a pro, she could get 3-400 easily. But she's not a pro. She's a neglected housewife giving it up for free!
    I hate you LOL

  13. #1694
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1862

    Heather.

    Heather is the real deal! She has excellent reviews on that other board! I'm betting this guy thinks he can push a few "suckers" her way from this board in exchange for a hefty discount. Since most guys think with their dicks, this is a very common occurrence unfortunately.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ren Man  [View Original Post]
    Nice self-review! PS do you really think we're that gullible?

  14. #1693
    Don't think this is a self review I have seen heather both when she was with Bella and then as indy. That sounds alot like her MO for service.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ren Man  [View Original Post]
    Nice self-review! PS do you really think we're that gullible?

  15. #1692

    Hi Heather!

    Nice self-review! PS do you really think we're that gullible?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Mister  [View Original Post]
    I was focused on Heather for a time! Once I had to come to Atlanta I contacted her and established the details for meeting! I met her in the lobby and walked her up to my room. Once inside we took care of business and shed the first layer of clothing. We then sat on the bed and started to hug / kiss / fondle. What started nice and slow sped up quickly! We couldn't keep our hands off of each other!

    We eventually shed all of the clothes and she went down on me for a BBBJ. Very nice, but only a tease of what was to come. I then returned the favor and licked and sucked on her perfect pussy. I couldn't get enough! She was starting to get wet. I then flipped into 69 where she continued to suck on me and I on her. I was licking all over. How pleasant!

    It was time for round 1. On went the cover and I entered her mish. We continued to kiss. Extremely hard, deep, and wet. It didn't take me long to blow. WOW!

    She cleaned me up and we talked briefly and then continued to kiss and fondle each other more. I then inserted my finger in her pussy and really started to get her going. After about 5 minutes of intense fingering she was extremely wet! She then went down on me again to work at getting me back at attention. It took a little doing, but she did awesome. Deep throat, hand job, tongue, I'm not even sure what all, but OMG it was fantastic. I then blew in her hand / mouth. WOW!

    I hope to visit Atlanta often!

    http://hotbunny.sexynclassy.com/

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