General Reports

[Richmond Guy]

I received a rather confusing PM today accusing me of "mind-fucking" Beth and lying to the board. With all the flaming that sometimes goes on here, I would like to clear up my position, for what it's worth (which probably isn't much).

I had been exchanging emails with Beth for a couple of weeks, but recently saw her after reading Guy Woodson's review. Guy and I have similar tastes and have communicated on several occasions. My experience was not as stellar as Guy's and I posted a somewhat lukewarm review of her. I decided to email her and tell her a bit about my reaction, because she's young, fairly bright, and I think she could be a great provider. We exchanged several emails, and finally came to an understanding of each other.

I guess that email exchange was the "mind-fuck." I wrote her, she wrote me back and that continued for awhile until I stopped replying (she replied to every email I sent) , In terms of lying on the board. I've never done that. When I wrote the review, I had no intention of seeing her again. As we continued to write, I began to rethink that.

Now, to date I have not seen her again. If I do, I will post another review.

A similar thing happened a few years ago. I saw the girl who called herself "Tasha" and lived in a house out by the airport. It was a horrible experience and I wrote about it. She and I emailed a bit. In a much less civil manner than my exchange with Beth. And she convinced me to come back. I did, and ended up having a great time. I saw her several times after that, until she moved away.

I don't think that's lying. Sometimes a provider can have a bad day, and my review indicated that she had another appointment to get to. So I may give her another chance. Or I may not.

I wrote her just now and asked if she was sharing my correspondance with anyone, and she denied it. I don't know what, if anything, is getting back to her, and I don't much care. We all know that reviews are individual and that YMMV is true not only with each provider, but also with each session.

For what it's worth.

[Richmond Guy]

But please don't capitalize the word "else" as it will have the unintended effect of making you appear to be yelling. If you want to yell, by all means capitalize.

Mustn't yell. Quotes are indeed better.

[Member #4183]

Should have said she never quoted anything ELSE to me (I. E. Half hour rate).

But please don't capitalize the word "else" as it will have the unintended effect of making you appear to be yelling. If you want to yell, by all means capitalize.

[Richmond Guy]

Beth is $.5 for the hour and she never quoted anything to me.

Should have said she never quoted anything ELSE to me (I. E. Half hour rate).

[JimmyJams]

Beth is $.5 for the hour and she never quoted anything to me.

Thank you. Made some room.

[Richmond Guy]

Beth is $.5 for the hour and she never quoted anything to me.

[Drewsky66]

Very sorry guys. I had a great time. I guess YMMV is such a valid point.

I think another factor is how some guys interpret "Good service", compared to other guys. I do believe some guys become used to being rushed. (I'm not implying that about GW) I mean that in general.

[Hsrams]

I totally understand the YMMV thing. It even comes into play with different visits to the same SW. One day pretty good. The next sucks. Just human nature sometimes and the fact that we cannot always be on our best game. The thing about Beth is it would only take a little coaching for her to understand what she needs to do to insure return customers. It has to be much easier to keep a good customer coming back, than the risks she goes through every time she brings in a new one. I have received solid leads from you before, so am not doubting that she can be good under the right circumstances.

HS.

Very sorry guys. I had a great time. I guess YMMV is such a valid point.

[Member #5055]

Very sorry guys. I had a great time. I guess YMMV is such a valid point.

Exactly my experience with her. I will really have to be hard up to go back.

I first emailed Beth when she responded to me off a CL casual encounters post. She offered a "candle package" for $.5. We emailed back and forth, and after GW's recommendation, I decided to see her. She claimed to be VCU, but then confessed to J Sarge. Not a big deal. This is a real YMMV girl. She was distracted and fairly unpersonable. Certainly not GFE. She is a decent value for the money and not bad looking, although a little the worse for wear if she really is 21. I emailed her to talk about seeing her again, and indicated that I thought she was a bit distracted (I thought it was because she was in a bit of a hurry. Had another appointment). Well, she didn't appreciate that and that how she was feeling during the appointment was none of my business.

Anyway, I obviously won't see her again, but for some of you, it might be a good experience.

[Hsrams]

Exactly my experience with her. I will really have to be hard up to go back.

I first emailed Beth when she responded to me off a CL casual encounters post. She offered a "candle package" for $.5. We emailed back and forth, and after GW's recommendation, I decided to see her. She claimed to be VCU, but then confessed to J Sarge. Not a big deal. This is a real YMMV girl. She was distracted and fairly unpersonable. Certainly not GFE. She is a decent value for the money and not bad looking, although a little the worse for wear if she really is 21. I emailed her to talk about seeing her again, and indicated that I thought she was a bit distracted (I thought it was because she was in a bit of a hurry. Had another appointment). Well, she didn't appreciate that and that how she was feeling during the appointment was none of my business.

Anyway, I obviously won't see her again, but for some of you, it might be a good experience.

[Richmond Guy]

Your UTR petite black 21 year old student is NOT utr. She has been advertising and solicting e-mails on public board.

I first emailed Beth when she responded to me off a CL casual encounters post. She offered a "candle package" for $.5. We emailed back and forth, and after GW's recommendation, I decided to see her. She claimed to be VCU, but then confessed to J Sarge. Not a big deal. This is a real YMMV girl. She was distracted and fairly unpersonable. Certainly not GFE. She is a decent value for the money and not bad looking, although a little the worse for wear if she really is 21. I emailed her to talk about seeing her again, and indicated that I thought she was a bit distracted (I thought it was because she was in a bit of a hurry. Had another appointment). Well, she didn't appreciate that and that how she was feeling during the appointment was none of my business.

Anyway, I obviously won't see her again, but for some of you, it might be a good experience.

[Breastlover69]

This is the post that I was referring to in my PM to you, I tried responding back but your box is full.

Met a blk girl a few week back on a web site called tag, said her and a friend were having a BJ contest, I deceided to take her up on her offer, she informed me there was a fee involved, which I agreed to. After I set things up she infomed me that her friend was out of town but I could still meet with her, which I did. Anyway ended up hooking up went to a motel stayed for a few hours and had a good time, this week end me and a friend tried to set up a little orgy where we would bang both of them and swap them around, couldn't get the details to work out, so that little party didn't' go down, tonight I got a phone call from the other girl who was pose to take part, she turned out to be a wht girl she was 19, not the cuties thing you ever saw, but she would do the job, and everything was on the menu, I took her up on her offer of two back to back bjcims, this set me back a Jackson, she then told me not to be bother with the blk girl any more, and she would set me up with her and a friend this week end, and I could switch anytime I wanted, because she is mad at the blk girl the one I knew 1st. She told me she would have her give me a bjcims, I'm going to take her up on both offers. The white girl said she only like blk guys, sorry fellows came from her mouth, not mine, anyway both these girls are 19 and the blk girl is tight as hell, will do her again.

[Grand Mephisto]

P. S. I have a new UTR petite black 21 year old student if anybody wants to PM me! (Isn't this why we have this board *GRIN*)

Your UTR petite black 21 year old student is NOT utr. She has been advertising and solicting e-mails on public board.

[JimmyJams]

Touche.

I don't see much sense in talking about an awesome experience with no intention of sharing info either but to say "info for SM" is not necessarily a slap to the excluded. It's not a "na na na na na" thing. It informs those that don't have SM status that one is not willing (and for good reason usually) to share the info with just any and everyone.

Again, nothing wrong with paying your dues and earning your stripes.

I still don't see why that would justify being a board snitch?"Oh you don't treat me right, you don't give me good info and I just got here, I'm going to run and tell girls what you say about them." Really?

[Scientific1]

Well bottom line is that you concede that it is 'definitely not' right for a hobbyist to inform to a provider what is being said on this board. Everything else you say is to justify the behavior. Sort of a contradiction.

When I first came to this board SM were not just giving me great info left and right. It does not work that way. Also because of board snitches and fear of uncle, members are increasingly more careful about what they post. Sometimes some stern or sarcastic talk is needed to motivate undereducated and / or lazy newbies. Can't just come here and expect step by step tutorials. Some barely seem to know where their own penis is located. I'm sorry but it may be necessary to weed out some. This isn't for everyone. I don't want to see anyone get robbed or locked up. If they ask general questions that will help this from happening, there is no problem, but if they want detailed information with less than 10 post, I'm sorry, that is dangerous. The forum has some great resources here. I have gone to the abbreviations tab many times to learn terms that I was not familiar with even though had been doing this for many years before discovering this board. They also have rules to mongering tab. New members can use the tools that are here, have a few dreams, report them and when people are comfortable that they are not uncle or going to get hurt, then a more free flow of information will be forthcoming. That is not unreasonable.

If some new person is 'clashing' against the board because his hand is not being held, that is ridiculous. Decent providers are not in abundance. We are not just going to give up info about them to someone that just jumped on the board, sorry it doesn't work that way. Uncle is here, you must know that. How would a SM feel if he gave up info to a newbie and a decent provider got hurt or jailed?

If you read my post thoroughly you would have saw that I was giving you a total view and of both sides instead of just from the side of "stop snitching", so you seeing it as a contradiction is your opinion. Like I said before I don't agree with members talking to providers and giving them information for "freebies" or "better experiences", however with the way that this board has been going for the past few months, I was simply trying to point out other reasons that these guys could be informing these providers. As far as the information being shared, I never said that you should share info with everyone, but there is a way that you could talk to people that would limit the amount of backlash that is being showed against certain members. I mean I have witnessed flaming each other over opinions as well as providers going at members. So obviously there is some merit behind what I am saying. The whole thing in a nutshell is, if you want less problems try contacting trusted members directly instead of broadcasting that you have hot / good information about a provider but will only give it to "trusted members". If it is information that is detrimental to the safety of the hobby and this boards members then by all means share. If you have had an encounter that wasn't the best. Share. But if you've found a new provider in which you are only providing a made up name and no contact information why tell anyone about it at all, especially if it wasn't a bad experience. In those situations I would myself just talk to members that I normally talk to or people that I deal with personally. Once again this is my opinion and it's not here for you to like or agree, just like to make my side explained.