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12-28-10 23:18 #3523
Someone needs to hit the reset button!
Like I said before someone needs to be the grown up in the room. SW making friends turn on each other behind some "tan lines"? People jumping on a man openly saying they didn't like him and never met the man. People taking what SW say as gospel! It's not Super E who looks bad it's the rest of us. And as for his pictures he did his thing without anyone's help and he documented it with photos there isn't a thing wrong with that. Hell I've seen pics like that in other city's on here.
Like I said before I don't have a beef with anyone and believes to each their own. Super and Cookjar were the reason I decided to come to Philly and will be back these guys are legends out there you guys see more pussy in a week than I get in a year.
To everyone just let it go.
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12-28-10 20:49 #3522
For me, the issue isn't SuperE
I don't think I'll be able to get over you guys that accept and seem to celebrate the 'outing' of a fellow monger, regardless of his horrible crimes in your eyes. Your mentality makes it dangerous for anyone that disagrees with you. At least if you disagreed with Super, he would just give you a written 'beating' LOL. This new mentality isn't new at all, it's fascism. It's saying that if I disagree with you, I will destroy you. If a girl tells me something about you that makes me angry, I'll drag you out in public for a beating. Then I'll just say you brought it upon yourself. History does not look favorably on that attitude, just ask a Jew.
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This is supposed to be a FORUM, where people of all styles, beliefs, experiences, and abilities are able to get together and HELP each other. What you guys are doing is stifling others, making a threatening environment where it is unsafe because you might get 'outed'. It can't be made safe because there is always a chance that some asshole with a bug up his butt will take the time to investigate who mongers are and he will probably figure it out to some degree. So, what makes a forum like this work is TRUST, and that is gone. Thanks so much Dark Asshole.
I like this example of how you try to get more guys on your side. Just because you can't, or most guys can't does not make it true that 'Nobody' can. Can SuperE do it? I don't know, but unless YOU have WATCHED him try to do it and not be able to, then you shouldn't say that he can't. I'm sure that it's possible. I've been able to do it 5 times overnight (ok, that was a few years ago). So I think that you have possibly been inaccurate here. Do you deserve to be 'outed' for this? Who has the right to make that decision? Originally Posted by Chriseff
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12-28-10 20:37 #3521
Re: I will no longer post pictures or reports to the Philly forum
I am really sorry to hear this. I enjoyed your street humor. Originally Posted by Street Steve
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...What they Did is "despicable"... Dark Pheonix acted alone and on his own behalf.
You and Supereloquent were best buds so I don't expect you to understand this: Although we had our differences – I did nothing.
Good luck and may the force be with you.
CookyJar
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12-28-10 19:56 #3520I am not surprised at your post. Originally Posted by Street Steve
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Let me say this-the forum existed for many years before SE came along and it was fine. It will continue to exist with or without your contributions, and certainly without his.
It is a shame that you feel this way, as I do not believe that you really understand what has taken place here.
I respect your opinion and I have enjoyed your reports-you have provided good and honest information to this forum over the past year or more.
However, you and I have not seen eye to eye when it came to SE. When I posted a legitimate concern a few months back, you jumped all over me in defense of him-belittling me and others because we did not possess the post count or picture editing skills of the Great One.
"They" did not do anything to this person-he brought it upon himself-those who think many members didn't already know SE's real name are very naive.
Anybody could easily have googled the name "SuperEloquent" and they would have found out this information. It was not rocket science nor was it a sinister plot.
If someone is that careless as to leave a trail out there on the WorldWide Web, then it really has little to do with the mindset of any forum or a single member going "nuclear".
Why do you continue to defend a guy who made up lies, wrote fictional accounts of dates, and posted phony pictures of girls who never existed on the Kensington stroll?
Nobody comes 6-7 times in one afternoon, and SW's who are addicted to opiates are rarely able to have an orgasm.
Why was no one allowed to challenge the outrageous claims made by SE without being branded as a being jealous or a "rock-thrower"?
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12-28-10 12:45 #3519
I will no longer post pictures or reports to the Philly forum
Very true Pal- what they did is "despicable". I don't think the Philly forum will ever recover. I am now ashamed to be a part of this forum. Originally Posted by Giani
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And Member #2552. Thanks so much for your insightful outrage. You have the of "wisdom of Solomon". You truly impress me. His post are below.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...=1#post1110237
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...=1#post1110478
I will end this by stating the following. I will no long post pictures or reports to this forum in Philly. My association with this forum ends today. One day if I see a change in the mindset of this forum I will consider contributing again.
I somehow doubt that will happen. I still have a few friends here and I will PM them reports and access to my pictures.
Street
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12-27-10 21:17 #3518
Holly Always rocks
No matter how many times I pass Holly. She always catches my eye. She is the best fallback SW on the ave. After a long stretch of cruising for new action and striking out. Originally Posted by KingLeonidas
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12-27-10 19:22 #3517
Trish
Hey we all know Jackie from Huntington Station. Well one of the great things about her is her teaching skills. She has such a big heart that she takes younger / inexperienced girls under her wing and shows them the ropes. Even refers regulars of hers to these girls. One such girl is Trish. She is a gorgeous girl with a great attitude. Super tight body and athletic as hell. I haven't been able to reach her by phone for a week or so. Her phone is on but no answer. Maybe she got out. Maybe she went home. But more likely her phone was stolen. Has anyone seen her this weekend. She is always between Huntington and KnA, but has a sugar daddy now and mostly works by phone. Reply in thread or via PM will be appreciated.
Slick cruising skills are a virtue,
Fkdave
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12-27-10 17:07 #3516
Snowy sled ride
Was curious who was out playing in the snow. There were a few out. Most interesting was Holly wearing high heels in the snow.
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12-24-10 12:58 #3515
A Street Steve Holiday Treat
Here is a little Christmas Present for you Street Steve. I know you miss Supereloquent. Here is a little something to brighten up you Holiday. Originally Posted by Street Steve
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You better not shout,
Ya better not pout
cuz Supereloquent may come back someday.
LOL (Just trying to make the best of a bad situation.)
CookyJar
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12-23-10 10:35 #3514The only problem with the airport hotels is traffic. Even though the distance is close (about 10 minute drive) in traffic it can be torture to get to. And having a SW'er in the car in a traffic jam can be a nightmare. As far as NJ, I'd stick with Cherry Hill vs Glouster or Runnedmead unless your plannning on mongering in Camden. Holiday Inn, Cherry Hill is about 20 minutes most times of the day. Originally Posted by LynnMan
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12-23-10 10:31 #3513Thanks for posting that. Actually not often you see a report that is more or less pretty dead on. I guess being from the area, I find it not as scary as the report says. But I can see how others can. One point that was covered in which you rarely see mentioned is the corruption of the Phila PD. The PD and our court system has kept our mongering haven in tact for many years. We'll have to see what happens after they catch the strangler. Will all slowly return to normal or never again be the same? Originally Posted by SexyDickster
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12-22-10 23:52 #3512
Kensington Ave
I saw this article and thought it was interesting for you guys up there, especially about the part of "walking dates" I had never heard of.
On a nightmarish street infested with heroin, rape, and violent crime, prostitutes keep showing up dead. Jeff Deeney visits the city's notorious neighborhood and finds hell on earth.
The rusting, blue steel frame of the El, the elevated portion of Philadelphia's subway, looms over dilapidated Kensington Avenue like a giant centipede's decaying exoskeleton. Known as "the stroll," Kensington Avenue is the hub of Philly's street prostitution scene, where young, drug-addicted women turn tricks for dope money—and where lately, a serial killer stalks them in the sickly orange glow of the streetlamps under the El.
Elaine Goldberg was only 21, a nursing student at a local university who seemed to have a lot going for her, except for a dope habit she couldn't kick. She was found half-naked and strangled to death in a vacant lot not far from the stroll on November 3. A Facebook page went up in the wake of the popular young woman's death. Her life was full of family and friends who were pulling for her to get clean; the memorial page has attracted more than 1, 500 followers and a flood of support and condolences from well-wishers.
Thirty-five-year-old Nicole Piacentini, on the other hand, was an Avenue veteran with a history of drug and prostitution charges. Her death, discovered November 13, didn't make the cut for a Facebook fan page. Her mother was quoted in the paper saying her worst nightmare was her daughter dying like this, alone on the streets and strung out on drugs.
And thanks to a third, unnamed woman who narrowly escaped the Kensington Strangler and came forward on Monday, police now have a sketch of the suspect: a young, light-skinned black or Latino man with a neatly trimmed goatee and close-cropped hair.
The Kensington Avenue stroll forms the eastern boundary of North Philadelphia's notorious Badlands, the nexus of the city's heroin scene for decades. The stroll is set off far enough from the dope corners that the girls don't usually get caught up in the gun violence that routinely erupts over territory—but close enough that they can walk over and cop a bag when they need one. The drugs and the sex are inseparably intertwined here; it's rare to encounter a girl who's not tricking to get her day's dope money up.
The two murdered women are alleged by the prostitutes on the stroll who knew them to have met the same fate in similar ways, by having gone on what the girls call "walking dates." In such a transaction, a John approaches on foot instead of in a car and asks the girl to walk with him to a nearby lot to set a price and have sex. The expansive lot where Elaine Goldberg was strangled is comprised of waist-high weeds with a path cut through them. Following the path into the weeds from the sidewalk feels like disappearing into a Dantean wilderness of addiction-driven depravity. The path is strewn with discarded women's clothes, a toilet turned on its side, and ultimately, a clearing where the muddy ground is coated with empty 1CC syringe wrappers, dirty needles, empty dope bags, used condoms, and a filthy mattress in the dirt where the women turn tricks.
'If you got a drug habit, you got to support it one way or another, ' she said. 'I'm scared out here, sure. I got raped two weeks ago. '
The nearby lot where Nicole Piacentini was strangled is smaller but similarly nightmarish. Set across from a warehouse loading dock, yellow crime tape was still tangled in the weeds where a second path opened immediately into yet another clearing strewn with drug detritus. As I approached the scene, a police officer who was sitting in a cruiser still parked by the crime scene rolled down his window.
"There's a lot of human shit back there so watch where you step," he deadpanned."It ain't mud."
Back on the Avenue a woman named Cat was sitting huddled in a doorway, trying to keep out of the rain. She said she's 30 but looks easily 15 years older. While she looked rough, she was soft-spoken and kind and freely shared the details of her life under the El. She said she was born and raised here in Kensington, started shooting dope when she was 20, added coke to her daily drug regimen four years ago, and has been working the stroll on an off ever since to keep her habit up.
"If you got a drug habit, you got to support it one way or another," she said."I'm scared out here, sure. I got raped two weeks ago. A couple days ago, a John tried to grab my money and punched me in the nose before I could jump out of the car. That shit happens to all of us but it doesn't make us want to get off the street, though. It's crazy, I know."
The more women you talk to out here, the more you come to understand how pervasive sexual violence is on the stroll. It's a fact well-known to social workers who encounter the women in drug-treatment settings, the criminal-justice system, and the prisons. In this population, extensive sexual trauma histories are basically universal.
Cat says she used to get high with Nicole Piacentini before she was murdered. She says she was a good, protective friend; she was part of a sort of sisterhood that many of the women here mention when they talk about life under the El.
"I would look out for her and she would look out for me. We do that out here, we watch out for our own. If we go on a bad date, we walk up and down the Avenue to let other girls know about it. We take a John's license plate when a girl goes on a date in case she don't come back, that sorta thing. She was a nice person."
While she was a nice person, Cat admits that Piacentini had a crippling drug habit she couldn't shake.
"She would stay up for days shooting coke, and then she would get all schitzy, you know. She thought the cops were always about to break the door down, shit like that."
Cat warned of the danger of the "walking date" that all the women working the stroll say sealed the fate of both Piacentini and Goldberg.
"I don't like to do dates with guys who are walking, it's more dangerous. They want you to go down an alleyway, or off somewhere nobody can see you. If I'm in a car, I can always jump out. I can tell a guy to park somewhere I know somebody's going to hear me if I scream, where there's doors I can bang on to get someone to call police if I need to."
Another woman who works the stroll named Jamie echoes the need for this safety precaution.
"I went with a guy who was walking one time and once we were off the street he hit me in back of the head, knocked me down and raped me," she says with a shudder.
A young prostitute named Patty says her parents went to the coroner's office to identify the body because they saw the news about young Elaine Goldberg and thought it was her.
"They called the police district and gave them a description of me. The police thought it was so similar they told her to go down the coroner's office and looked at the body. When they showed the body to my parents, it was covered with a sheet but her hair was sticking out from under it. We have the same color hair, same length of hair, so they assumed it was me. My mom had a nervous breakdown on the spot."
Patty says she and a lot of the women on the stroll are letting the shock of the incidents motivate them to get off the streets. Prostitutes are fleeing to detoxes and sober houses to lay low and try to get clean before they get killed.
"I'm going to Kirkbride (detox) on Thursday, man, I'm scared. I'm scared for all my girlfriends out here who are hooked on dope and living in abandoned houses with no protection. I never been to detox before, this is my first time and I want to get this under control before it gets uncontrollable. My number could come up next."
All of the women I spoke to said that the Philadelphia Police Department bears some responsibility for ignoring episodes of physical and sexual violence against prostitutes so routine they are committed almost casually by the Johns who frequent the stroll. Johns, they say, don't fear repercussions for raping a street walker because they know the cops don't do anything about it.
Patty told me,"I been raped out here so many times and every time I told the cops that I was tricking at the time I was raped they told me to just keep walking. They wouldn't even make a report. And the Vice Squad cops are scumbags, man, they'll put you in the squad car and make you suck their dick or they'll arrest you."
These sentiments were mirrored by all of the prostitutes I surveyed. There is unanimous agreement among the women working the stroll that the police feel that sexual violence is simply an occupational hazard that women who choose this way of life should cope with on their own. That a serial killer would view the stroll as fertile territory for finding easy kills among disposable women, to them, only seems a logical outcome of the long standing unwritten police policies that condone the violence against them.
The police department denies that they actively ignore reported incidents of violence against prostitutes, stating that the incidents don't get reported, because the women are afraid to come forward for fear of catching drug and other criminal charges themselves.
"I come down here to get beat up and raped over what," Patty asks rhetorically."All that for a little blue bag [of heroin]. I can't take even one step out of Kensington anymore. This El," she says, pointing at the train tracks rusting away above her head,"It sucks you in and don't let you go."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailybeast/2...ostitutehell_1
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12-22-10 11:20 #3511
The K. Shut down for me
You may want to order take-out or fish other areas. The K is hot right now, police are grabbing up the mongers and having them submit DNA swabs. I think I read over 200 persons picked up since November, all in an effort to find the Kensington strangler.
I've visited the stroll quite often, for now I don't even drive thru, if it looks too good it probably is.
Be Safe
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12-21-10 22:54 #3510
Priceline.com is your best bet
I have mentioned this before in this thread and I stand by it still: go to the "name your own price" function on Priceline. Com under hotels. Start by bidding $45 for a 3-star hotel and, if you're turned down, raise your bid by $5 increments, each time tweeking your "region" between the airport (which includes the stadium Holiday Inn), City Line, and University City. I ALWAYS end up at an airport hotel, between 10 and 15 mins down I95 from the Allegheny exit. I prefer not to request the downtown area as parking will trump any savings. Unless, of course, you want to take the chance of finding street parking in Ctr City and then have to feed a meter every 1-2 hrs. There's also a Bensalem / Trevose option under regions, but I've never tried that. Also never tried the Jersey options, but they might work just fine for a Camden pick-up. Originally Posted by LynnMan
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12-21-10 21:54 #3509
Hotels
Hi mongers,
I will be visiting your city in a few days time. Could someone point me towards the better area to get a hotel in, the cheaper deals I've seen are in Gloucester, Cherry Hill and Runnemead all in NJ side, are they close enough to the action on K ave, or Camden? In Philly the only hotels within my budget are in the Airport area (Lester) and Stadium area, are those close enough to the action.
Also could someone PM me the address or details to the short time stay places (Carlyle) or others where I can take a SW for a short time? Information is most appreciated, I'll be sure to post about my experiences.
LM
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