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  1. #7395
    Quote Originally Posted by Nighthawk55  [View Original Post]
    Are you serious? Could you possibly be this dense?

    This isn't some fantasy "Night Shift" world where Massage establishments offer health insurance and retirement plans.

    The owners of these establishments don't give a flying phuck. They are not "investing in a business". They are operating an illegal enterprise for maximum profit.

    Where do you expect the payment of the doctors to come from?

    Here is te bottom line. When you go get a massage, the house charges $40 / half hour, $60 / hour. The massage therapist get $15/20 plus tips. Noting else happens. No dental plan. No short term dis plan.

    I really find it tough to believe you were wondering about this. Did you grow up in Mayberry?
    I would like to thank Past Tense for his response.

    If persons reading this board did not know that Nighthawk is an asshole, they surely know now. He misreads my original question. Then goes fucking crazy over the top with a second response that insults someone who simply asked a question about risk. Yes, they have invested in a business. They pay rent or own property, they purchase equipment and supplies, they presumably / possibly pay off police and organized crime, they have a marketing strategy (whether that is word of mouth or ads in Craigs List or specials that they run on the weekends), they presumably have an interest to maintain long-term clients to keep that $40/$60 per hour per massage coming in on a regular basis. As I admitted, I had no idea whether or not they did not give a fuck about the std / hiv status of their workers or whether or not they had their workers get tested at a "public" health clinic on a regular basis. That they might have their workers tested in order to protect their business / profits/$40 or $60 per hour per massage is surely not a naive supposition. Perhaps you get your rocks off on writing derogatory comments on the web. Hopefully others on this site do not.

  2. #7394
    Quote Originally Posted by Aplayfulone  [View Original Post]
    If I had invested the money in establishing a sex business to which I wanted repeat clientele to visit, then I certainly would not want it to become a hot bed of HIV transmission.
    Are you serious? Could you possibly be this dense?

    This isn't some fantasy "Night Shift" world where Massage establishments offer health insurance and retirement plans.

    The owners of these establishments don't give a flying phuck. They are not "investing in a business". They are operating an illegal enterprise for maximum profit.

    Where do you expect the payment of the doctors to come from?

    Here is te bottom line. When you go get a massage, the house charges $40 / half hour, $60 / hour. The massage therapist get $15/20 plus tips. Noting else happens. No dental plan. No short term dis plan.

    I really find it tough to believe you were wondering about this. Did you grow up in Mayberry?

  3. #7393

    Risk exists everywhere.

    Everything has some risk, from walking the street at night, to touching a door knob to opening a door to eating in a restasurant to having sex with another human being. All I can say is that in 12 years of hobbying I have never contracted an STD and only know of one guy who did. He got the clap from One of the Romainian girls from Foxy Lady prior to 2000.

  4. #7392

    Question About STD's

    Quote Originally Posted by Nighthawk55  [View Original Post]
    Are you kidding me? The owners of these establishments don't care one bit about the staff or the customers. You can be assured they do not spend one second concerning themselves about any of this nonsense. All they worry about is a) collecting their cash and be) continuing to collect their cash.

    Are you really seriously thinking there is anything else going on? They are concerned with customer safety? Come on! You can't actually think they care!
    My original question was actually one aimed at assessing risk. Not at learning about the facts regarding STD's. If you read my question, it is clear that I was familiar with the fact that oral sex carries less risk than unprotected vaginal sex. But risk remains. And given the frequency with which I have read of others on this site going "downtown" I simply wanted to find out if they know more than I do. In this case, whether the workers at AMP's are regularly tested for STD's, or test themselves out of a sense of self-protection. If I had invested the money in establishing a sex business to which I wanted repeat clientele to visit, then I certainly would not want it to become a hot bed of HIV transmission. On the other hand, you may be right and they may not actually give a fuck. I just wanted a sense from heads more experienced than mine so that I could accurately assess the risk factor. Not receive a lesson on the facts of STD's.

    I have no clue who Neeva is nor why she / he has chosen to give abstinence education advice on this site.

  5. #7391
    Quote Originally Posted by Aplayfulone  [View Original Post]
    Do the owners of these AMP's make certain that their workers are tested on a frequent basis and that they use condoms when providing FS.
    Are you kidding me? The owners of these establishments don't care one bit about the staff or the customers. You can be assured they do not spend one second concerning themselves about any of this nonsense. All they worry about is a) collecting their cash and be) continuing to collect their cash.

    Are you really seriously thinking there is anything else going on? They are concerned with customer safety? Come on! You can't actually think they care!

  6. #7390
    Banned Member


    Posts: 1121

    Is this odd?

    Anyone else find it interesting that a brand new member's first post was answered by another brand new member's first post?

    I'm just sayin'

    Joined 11/21/2010.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aplayfulone  [View Original Post]
    After reading through this blog, I am wondering whether or not the women who serve as AMP's take safe sex precautions. While I know that HIV transmission through oral sex is pretty low risk, I have read more than several reports of guys going "downtown" before FS with condom to wonder just how safe oral sex with an AMP worker might be. Do the owners of these AMP's make certain that their workers are tested on a frequent basis and that they use condoms when providing FS. Obviously, a rub and tug is the ultimate safe sex, but when tempted for more just wondering whether or not temptation should be pretty much resisted.

    Since this post is not "about" any particular AMP, I assume that it is not breaking the rules regarding what explicitly goes on at any particular AMP.
    Joined 11/17/2010.

    Quote Originally Posted by Neeva  [View Original Post]
    Have you ever wondered what the package insert means by not 100% safe against stds?

    Between possible rips, tears, slips, etcetra of the condom theres aslo the fact that the HIV virus is small enough that it can penetrate through a condom.

    The difference between HIV and AIDS is when the HIV virus becomes active, and is no longer dormant it's considered to be AIDS.

    Enjoy your new-found knowledge!

  7. #7389

    Not the place for your STD question

    There is an STD forum, so this isn't the place to discuss your STD questions. You can go to the other thread or go to a reputable medical site such as Mayo Clinic, the CDC or the Medhelp. Com However, there is no way HIV can pentrate a properly used latex condom. As for your other concerns, it is far less likely to get an STD when receiving oral. Once you start down the unprotected sex route your risk will increase substantially.

    When you choose to become a hobbyist, you are accepting all the risks that come with it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Neeva  [View Original Post]
    Have you ever wondered what the package insert means by not 100% safe against stds?

    Between possible rips, tears, slips, etcetra of the condom theres aslo the fact that the HIV virus is small enough that it can penetrate through a condom.

    The difference between HIV and AIDS is when the HIV virus becomes active, and is no longer dormant it's considered to be AIDS.

    Enjoy your new-found knowledge!

  8. #7388

    Your STD Answer

    Have you ever wondered what the package insert means by not 100% safe against stds?

    Between possible rips, tears, slips, etcetra of the condom theres aslo the fact that the HIV virus is small enough that it can penetrate through a condom.

    The difference between HIV and AIDS is when the HIV virus becomes active, and is no longer dormant it's considered to be AIDS.

    Enjoy your new-found knowledge!

    Quote Originally Posted by Aplayfulone  [View Original Post]
    After reading through this blog, I am wondering whether or not the women who serve as AMP's take safe sex precautions. While I know that HIV transmission through oral sex is pretty low risk, I have read more than several reports of guys going "downtown" before FS with condom to wonder just how safe oral sex with an AMP worker might be. Do the owners of these AMP's make certain that their workers are tested on a frequent basis and that they use condoms when providing FS. Obviously, a rub and tug is the ultimate safe sex, but when tempted for more just wondering whether or not temptation should be pretty much resisted.

    Since this post is not "about" any particular AMP, I assume that it is not breaking the rules regarding what explicitly goes on at any particular AMP.

  9. #7387

    Question about STD's

    After reading through this blog, I am wondering whether or not the women who serve as AMP's take safe sex precautions. While I know that HIV transmission through oral sex is pretty low risk, I have read more than several reports of guys going "downtown" before FS with condom to wonder just how safe oral sex with an AMP worker might be. Do the owners of these AMP's make certain that their workers are tested on a frequent basis and that they use condoms when providing FS. Obviously, a rub and tug is the ultimate safe sex, but when tempted for more just wondering whether or not temptation should be pretty much resisted.

    Since this post is not "about" any particular AMP, I assume that it is not breaking the rules regarding what explicitly goes on at any particular AMP.

  10. #7386
    Juggy. How accurate were the photo's and was it a real massage, or FS?

    Guys are welcome to PM me for massage info in the Milwuakee / Chicago area. Cheers!

    Quote Originally Posted by Juggy Gales  [View Original Post]
    Was looking for a Massage and ended up calling

    http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs...ses-25/6717499

    Incall at a hotel off 90 and arlington heights road. Had a 4 call system due to running a little late. Got a call with room number and went in, was a little skeptical at first but all I can say I left very happy and money well spent.

    Girl was a 7/10 but was of european descent. I would reccomend if your looking for an EMP.

  11. #7385

    Please tell me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostface89  [View Original Post]
    Where is there any credible evidence of "human trafficking" in Chicago? Point me to just one case with conviction, please. (No, I don't count black pimps with their home grown "ho's". I mean this sci-fi international, global female running uber-conspiracy.)

    The "human trafficking" scare of this decade is similar to the "satanic ritual abuse" scare of the 80s. That one turned out to be 99% plus wishful thinking that made big bucks for the experts, hypnotherapists, and de-programmers and was fodder for countless Opra-esque talk TV programs.

    Such hysteria and political posturing needs to be exposed for the garbage it truly is. Getting the public to swallow this propaganda keeps billions of tax dollars flowing to politicians and the social worker types.

    Tom Dart : Put up or shut up!
    Did you see any Black owned businesses on the list of these massage establishments.

  12. #7384

    Human Trafficing in Chicago?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nighthawk55  [View Original Post]
    http://www.cityofchicago.org/city/en...ement2011.html

    BACP formed a task force made up of BACP, the CPD and the Vice Control Section of the Chicago Police Department and the Department of Law to identify and shut down massage establishments used as prostitution and / or human trafficking networks in Chicago.

    As a result the number of prosecutions brought against massage establishments has increased. This year, BACP initiated over 40 revocation cases against massage establishments for prostitution and other violations, compared to two cases in 2009. * Massage establishment license revocations are posted on our website.
    Where is there any credible evidence of "human trafficking" in Chicago? Point me to just one case with conviction, please. (No, I don't count black pimps with their home grown "ho's". I mean this sci-fi international, global female running uber-conspiracy.)

    The "human trafficking" scare of this decade is similar to the "satanic ritual abuse" scare of the 80s. That one turned out to be 99% plus wishful thinking that made big bucks for the experts, hypnotherapists, and de-programmers and was fodder for countless Opra-esque talk TV programs.

    Such hysteria and political posturing needs to be exposed for the garbage it truly is. Getting the public to swallow this propaganda keeps billions of tax dollars flowing to politicians and the social worker types.

    Tom Dart : Put up or shut up!

  13. #7383

    China town

    First off, thanks to everyone who gave me advice on good places to go in China town. I will eventually try them all but for now I just had enough spare change to try Senina. Senina was honestly one of the newest and cleanest mp's I've been to. It was so new that I almost felt classy. Almost LOL. Paid for a full hour massage and actually got a little over an hour which was nice. Given the option of ts before or after massage and the ts is very, very thorough. The massage itself was mediocre, but I did leave happy. So no complaints. The only negative I can think of about this mp is that it is on a VERY crowded street. If you are not asian you stick out like a sore thumb and everyone knows what you are there for. So you better be ok with 50 old asian people glowering at you as you walk towards the mp.

  14. #7382

    It was awkward and kind of weird! Mediocre massage

    I have been there twice now; once with Jazmine and last week with Marie for her special "Lingerie massage." As you might expect the lingerie massage was pretty lackluster. Marie is hot alright but seemed uncomfortable wearing lingerie and doesn't seemed to really like her job. You can PM me for details. Jazmine gave a better massage over all but not by much.

    I too asked for a table shower from Marie who didn't really want to because, as it turns out, the table shower room is only slightly bigger than the table and the room is freezing! Marie didn't want to get her feet wet or really have to do anything else in there. She told me more a few times that most guys just use the stand up shower. I would not repeat although, because I live so close, and am foolish, I am going to go there one more time and check out Yumi. I let ya know what happens.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bhorg  [View Original Post]
    Yeah, I was there a few weeks ago. I paid for 60 minutes, basically got more like 40. Asked for table shower, was given a little bit of a run around, and told that standing shower could be used instead.

    Staff was super nice. Massage was mediocre. Extras seemed. . . I dunno, but I felt a little odd about the set up, despite how sweet the staff was. Provider was Michelle, who's picture is in many of the adds. Photo is accurate. Pretty mediocre looking, but had a big belly. Overall, very friendly, pleasant, chatty, but basically amateur hour with massage.

    There is a truth to MPs that the nicer the provider the worse they look. However the other truth. The worse they look the better the massage, was not the case here.

    They seem to have a few new providers there, so YMMV with different girls.

  15. #7381

    Thinks I found a Keeper.

    Was looking for a Massage and ended up calling

    http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs...ses-25/6717499

    Incall at a hotel off 90 and arlington heights road. Had a 4 call system due to running a little late. Got a call with room number and went in, was a little skeptical at first but all I can say I left very happy and money well spent.

    Girl was a 7/10 but was of european descent. I would reccomend if your looking for an EMP.

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