Massage Parlor Reports

[Ath Trainer]

Trainer,

Sarcoidosis only becomes an acute disease as a result of the non-intervention of a chronic disorder. My reference to no-one caring was aimed soley at her caretaker(s) - a.k.a "the mamasan", or those who otherwise run the establishment. A 911 call on the day of the incident would have in no way been soon enough to have saved he life - in fact my commentary refers to (obscurely) the probability that she received only food, water, and a roof over her head. Even a first year Med student would have picked up on the lung sounds and skin condition (and cosmetics would not hide the rash/bruising). The owners could have dropped her off at one of the city's health centers soon enough (six months ago), she would still be alive, and at no cost to them (although ICE would have become involved, and their "investment" would have instantly dried up).

People who are involved in illegal activities, do not always think right in a emergency situation. You add into the situation that the employees/mamasan are from a different culture and would probably not feel comfortable taking her somewhere and endangering themselves.

There is a lot of room in this matter for people to make assumptions and jump to conclusions. Maybe we should not be so judgemental.

[Tonsil Hockey]

What is really horrible about this situation is that there was someone else with her when she started to have a problem and that person decided to leave her there, lock the door as they left, and then drive out to the Burger King in Morton, Delaware County before they called 911. Why not call from the nearest pay phone when they walked out the door? Would it have made a difference? Probably not......but that person didn`t know that. He might have even taken his money back and perhaps other money that didn`t belong to him. If there is any justice in the world, that asswipe used a credit card to pay for the massage. If he did, it`s only a matter of time before the cops contact him.

Trainer,

Sarcoidosis only becomes an acute disease as a result of the non-intervention of a chronic disorder. My reference to no-one caring was aimed soley at her caretaker(s) - a.k.a "the mamasan", or those who otherwise run the establishment. A 911 call on the day of the incident would have in no way been soon enough to have saved he life - in fact my commentary refers to (obscurely) the probability that she received only food, water, and a roof over her head. Even a first year Med student would have picked up on the lung sounds and skin condition (and cosmetics would not hide the rash/bruising). The owners could have dropped her off at one of the city's health centers soon enough (six months ago), she would still be alive, and at no cost to them (although ICE would have become involved, and their "investment" would have instantly dried up).

[Member #5237]

For a couple of intelligent guys, you say some stupid things.

First of all, don't blame others for not taking care of her on going illness. SHE should have been going to the Dr. to get some meds. It's also possible she was trying to treat it with some hollistic methods from her native culture.

Secondly, who said a monger left her there, and called the cops? Where were the other girls and the mamasan? I got the impression that she either started to have a problem, or was found DOA, by one of the employees of the MP. They, got their stuff, left, and called 911. She could not have been the only employee in the place when this happened, correct?

Before you accuse someone of saying something stupid, know the facts. The 911 call was placed from the Burger King on Baltimore Pike in Morton Delaware County, which according to MAPQUEST is 21 miles from the massage parlor. A fellow employee would have no reason to travel that far away before calling for help. I have been going to AMPs for close to 30 years and many times there was only 1 person there when I arrived. AMPs, like all businesses, know what times of the week they will be busy and when they will be slow and adjust the employees schedules accordingly. Although at most AMPs the girls work AND live there, there are some exceptions.

None of us know if she was seeing a doctor for her condition or if she was using some hollistic methods. Neither scenerio would preclude her from having a medical emergency, which she obviously did have, and someone who didn't want the cops to know they were there left that woman there to die and did not call for help until they were far from the scene. As I stated before, we have no way of knowing if she would have lived had she received medical attention earlier, but the right thing to do would have been to call for help immediately, not wait until approx. 30 minutes later (MAPQUEST time).

[Ath Trainer]

What is really horrible about this situation is that there was someone else with her when she started to have a problem and that person decided to leave her there, lock the door as they left, and then drive out to the Burger King in Morton, Delaware County before they called 911. Why not call from the nearest pay phone when they walked out the door? Would it have made a difference? Probably not......but that person didn`t know that. He might have even taken his money back and perhaps other money that didn`t belong to him. If there is any justice in the world, that asswipe used a credit card to pay for the massage. If he did, it`s only a matter of time before the cops contact him.

For a couple of intelligent guys, you say some stupid things.

First of all, don't blame others for not taking care of her on going illness. SHE should have been going to the Dr. to get some meds. It's also possible she was trying to treat it with some hollistic methods from her native culture.

Secondly, who said a monger left her there, and called the cops? Where were the other girls and the mamasan? I got the impression that she either started to have a problem, or was found DOA, by one of the employees of the MP. They, got their stuff, left, and called 911. She could not have been the only employee in the place when this happened, correct?

[Member #5237]

Irregardless, the poor gal suffered one horrendous death. I work as a Paramedic in the five county (PA) area, and in 20 years have seen three cases of it. If memory serves, it usually hits the lungs, liver, skeletal system and skin, and isn't communicable.

When channel 6 stated "compromised immune system" I kinda thought the same as everyone else, however, the disease is resultant from immune system hyperactivity, in a similar way to Lupus.

I'd venture to say that it had been left untreated for no less than a year. About $20.00 worth of prednisone would have at least helped to make her comfortable. The sad thing is that while the disease is usually fatal (in the long term), it can be managed to the point that an improved quality of life can be obtained for around a hundred per month, and those around her didn't care enough to help.

What is really horrible about this situation is that there was someone else with her when she started to have a problem and that person decided to leave her there, lock the door as they left, and then drive out to the Burger King in Morton, Delaware County before they called 911. Why not call from the nearest pay phone when they walked out the door? Would it have made a difference? Probably not......but that person didn`t know that. He might have even taken his money back and perhaps other money that didn`t belong to him. If there is any justice in the world, that asswipe used a credit card to pay for the massage. If he did, it`s only a matter of time before the cops contact him.

[Tonsil Hockey]

Irregardless, the poor gal suffered one horrendous death. I work as a Paramedic in the five county (PA) area, and in 20 years have seen three cases of it. If memory serves, it usually hits the lungs, liver, skeletal system and skin, and isn't communicable.

When channel 6 stated "compromised immune system" I kinda thought the same as everyone else, however, the disease is resultant from immune system hyperactivity, in a similar way to Lupus.

I'd venture to say that it had been left untreated for no less than a year. About $20.00 worth of prednisone would have at least helped to make her comfortable. The sad thing is that while the disease is usually fatal (in the long term), it can be managed to the point that an improved quality of life can be obtained for around a hundred per month, and those around her didn't care enough to help.

[York]

This is typically a lung disorder.

It is not transferrable from person to person.

Thus it may have been just continual coughing resulting in choking.

[Hair54]

Compromised immune system?

That dont sound good.

[Ath Trainer]

The autopsy said heart disease and compromised immune system. But who knows and who knows if we will ever really find out.

Why don't you perform your own autopsy? Sounds like Michael Jackson's parents.

[Bill 72]

I have heard cause of death MAY be choking.

Food or condom or cum.

Rumor, but that is what I heard.

The other girls and staff got so scared, they all dressed and left.

Don't know if they took care of the video system or left it intact.

Death accidental, per rumor.

The autopsy said heart disease and compromised immune system. But who knows and who knows if we will ever really find out.

[York]

I have heard cause of death MAY be choking.

Food or condom or cum.

Rumor, but that is what I heard.

The other girls and staff got so scared, they all dressed and left.

Don't know if they took care of the video system or left it intact.

Death accidental, per rumor.

[Chris Hansen]

Woman found dead in Center City massage parlor

Inquirer Staff Report
Police are investigating the death of a woman inside an illegal massage parlor in Center City.

Officers went to 813 Sansom St. about 9:50 p.m. Sunday after Delaware County's 911 center received a call from a phone booth in the county reporting a problem at the Philadelphia address, police said.

The door was locked and the officers received no response from inside.

After getting inside, they found the body of a woman, about 35 years old, in a bed on the second floor of the building, police said. A Kosher restaurant with a separate entrance is on the ground floor.

Medics pronounced her dead at 9:57 p.m.

Investigators found no signs of foul play and are awaiting the results of an autopsy.

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/br...ge_parlor.html

[Chieric]

Must have been Sue, (didn't know her name) I haven't seen Lily the last couple times there. Sue definitely knows me. Went over who I had seen Paris, J, Cherry, Vanessa, Sophia. Shouldn't have been any need for twenty questions with Nicole. The money up front set off an alarm bell, tip in advance get rushed out with minimal service. That's what I hate about the other AMPs.

Sorry to hear that. I don't have an issue with the upfront fee, but maybe that is because I am pretty exclusive at FunCity & Pink these days. FC is the only AMP that doesn't usually ask for the fee up front, regardless, I lay it on the table.

[Ignacus]

Must have been Sue, (didn't know her name) I haven't seen Lily the last couple times there. Sue definitely knows me. Went over who I had seen Paris, J, Cherry, Vanessa, Sophia. Shouldn't have been any need for twenty questions with Nicole. The money up front set off an alarm bell, tip in advance get rushed out with minimal service. That's what I hate about the other Amps.

Sounds like they were having some serious LE issues or other shady stuff.

Did you call ahead? Was Lily or Sue acting Mamasan? I went through this with Dallas, but mostly because I was asking lots of questions to try to get to know her and make the experience more comfortable. I just laughed at her and told her to chill out.

Nicole is so popular that I'm sure she could get a bunch of guys walkout before Lily or Sue got pissed. I lucked out and saw Nicole on her first night at FC and I'd been there a lot recently, so I think I got good treatment. Even BBFS was on the menu!!!

Some random info:

Someone at FC reads the bestgfe forums. I went 2 nights in a row, both with the same girl. After the first night, I immediately went home and posted my review. When I returned the 2nd night, the girl told me that someone read my review.

[Chieric]

It was 2:15 by the time I walked out. I'd been there over 20 minutes and I knew the "next" girl would be trying to rush me out. I also figured, that if I walked out, there would be more consequences for Nicole for losing business. Especially since I was the only monger in the place. These posting make it a "customer care" issue that my company would jump through hoops to address. Wish I could send them a link to the posting.

Sounds like they were having some serious LE issues or other shady stuff.

Did you call ahead? Was Lily or Sue acting Mamasan? I went through this with Dallas, but mostly because I was asking lots of questions to try to get to know her and make the experience more comfortable. I just laughed at her and told her to chill out.

Nicole is so popular that I'm sure she could get a bunch of guys walkout before Lily or Sue got pissed. I lucked out and saw Nicole on her first night at FC and I'd been there a lot recently, so I think I got good treatment. Even BBFS was on the menu!!!

Some random info:

Someone at FC reads the bestgfe forums. I went 2 nights in a row, both with the same girl. After the first night, I immediately went home and posted my review. When I returned the 2nd night, the girl told me that someone read my review.