Streetwalker Reports

**Member #4061** · 07-10-10 18:33

Originally Posted by Clixxx

I disagree that it is wrong to talk to a SW through a window. HOwever it is imperative NOT TO TALK BUSINESS through the window. A short and sweet "shout out" through the window asking say "do you need a ride" or "do you need some help" or "do you know where ______ is" are absolutely benign (legally and otherwise). The stopping of the vehicle and engaging briefly the potential SW sends a signal to any experienced SW that you are interested.
However, lets say your willie is too intrigued, continue to be deliberate and park yourself where you can watch for a minute or two. Is the girl engaging potential mongers through the window and declining to get in?

All in all, it is OK to engage a potential SW with benign statements through the window just dont be stupid in what you say (regardless of potentially being LE or not). Be short and brief. If she wants to engage in what could be extended conversation beyond a response to your inquiry or talk "business" through the window FORGET IT. SHe may or may not be LE but it is not worth it at this point.

Years ago I was trying to scoop this broad off Patapsco. She was a fine looking blond with a stellar body who crossed the bridge to work. Her sister also worked, but was not near the looker. I knew she was not 5.0 because I knew her from area. I approached her. She was standing with two other females. I had my passenger window down and door unlocked because I knew she was getting in, after all she was fine. With three cars behind me, at a stop sign on a cross street, she walks in front of my car and approaches the drivers window. I mind wonders. She talks casual. I said are "you goin to hope in or what honey?" She wants to talk business. I said "you know the rules. Lets go!" She kept looking back at the cars and trucks now beeping behind me. She said, "prove you're not uncle leo." I told her I would as soon as we left. She wanted me to whip it out right there in broad daylight. I thought for a moment. I told her that was illegal and I could get locked up. After that, I said "you know what, I thought you wanted to have a good time, guess I was wrong." I left, but I circled back around to try to get get her interest again. She jumped into one of the trucks that was beeping. I have not seen her since that afternoon. I hope she got out of the game. In order to keep my nose clean, I have to be willing to walk away empty handed many, many, many times. I live by this statement.

Down south in some of the rougher areas, the new gals fresh out of the joint would always hit up the drivers window always with a 'boy friend' in tow or on the corner. He would not release them until some funds were released on the spot. After a few dealings like this, I found out why. Many would not come back. I had two beg and plead not to take them back. What was I suppose to do? Get my house cleaned out? Hell no! I knew the setup. I had one blockette do that to me several years ago on cross st near the after hours club. She had her man in tow and he released her to me. We had a good time and she would have stayed the night and maybe longer. She was out of it. While I was about to drop her off, she begged me not to drop her off. She wanted to go anywhere. I pulled away, and he was yelling and screaming. I circled the block a few times to talk some sense into her. Dropped her off and gave her 'boyfriend' the finger on the way out of town. I saw her and her 'boyfriend' 18 months later on the block. She was at the Flamingo. Still had a great spinner body in spite of his poor looks and hygiene. Anyway, just as you mentioned Clixx. One never knows what one is going to find.

Originally Posted by Clixxx

Please note that some of my best "picks" have been those engaged with out of the car. For example, you see a clean civilian type, that you have never seen before, sitting on the rowhouse steps who apparently is looking, perhaps unsure how to give the "look" and not coming to the curb during one of your passes as you "get the lay of the land". YOur instincts tell you maybe she is wanting to work but new to the business and unsure what to do. Make sure she sees your face as you drive by. By all means consider parking the car (block or so away) and walk up to her. During the drive by and walk keep radar up - scan well for the smell of bacon and true civilian behavior. Her eyes/look will be strong tell as you approach her "stoop" if she is a newbie you will be able to tell. Ask a benign question and engage in non specific discussion. If she is a civilian the conversation will be curt. If she is a newbie, she will engage you and not "direct" the conversation. You should be able to have her walk with you to your car to "help you find where ______ is located" and then once in the car and driving away you can take care of business.
I have gotten some fresh apparent first timers who need money for whatever reason this way e.g. the diamond in the rough.
clix

Nice advice

-In todays climate in Baltimore, I would never talk through the drivers window, regardless. It just wastes too much time. That's time someone could pull up behind you or see the scoop. Opinions vary though.

**Member #4061** · 07-10-10 17:08

Originally Posted by Benchseats Rock

She's a civilian. Our girl don't look like that, and you know it.
If you don't leave the civilians alone, the cops come down harder on us.
If you want a fantasy, order it off Eros.

Bench

With all due respect to Old Monger, I don't think he gets out much. He's a good guy, but there's not a nine in Baltimore City let alone the north side of W/W. I saw those gals on Thursday and Friday. I don't know their story, but one got scooped by a monger who was driving next to me. Anyway, they were two brunettes. One was wearing jeans and the other jean shorts. I'd say they were 8 on street walker scale and 5-6 on civi scale. They might have been blockettes. I don't know. The reason they stuck out to me was the cleaner clothes they were wearing. Usually working gals in that direct area (Payson,Pulaski,Eagle) are trashed. Most look like they have been wearing the same clothes for weeks. These gals looked like the average run of the mill broad with a kicker. In my experience, blockettes that hit the loop on that side of town tend to stay around that first block near Monroe or around the circle. Maybe the bus stops provide a safety net. Maybe the pimps have not claimed that block. Years ago a couple gals told me the same thing my new friend told me this past week. They will not go near McHenry! She did not even want to drive down McHenry. Maybe there is a rapist or a couple nasty pimps that live on McHenry. I don't blame them. Anything north of Ramsay and Wilkens is complete shit. Too many random shootings. It's no secret they hate the area, but a habit or two keeps them around from time to time. Some gals have even gone as far as to tell me to stay the fuck off Wilkens, and they don't want to see me around here. "The place is no fucking good!" in her words. I don't disagree with them.

-As always, take precautions new guys. Just because they were not 5.0 yesterday, does not mean they won't be tomorrow. New day new dollar. Even if you've dated a gal four or five times, you should still take precautions when they are with you.

**Old Monger** · 07-10-10 14:09

She looked like a civilian, but she gave me "the look". I discreetly circled but she was gone (picked up? she did not have time to walk anywhere). It is certainly possible she was a civilian, who was picked up for a non-SW purpose. For this precise reason I took no forward approach. I never do, as you are quite right, mongers who approach civilians foul the nest for all of us.

**Benchseats Rock** · 07-10-10 12:38

Originally Posted by Old Monger

Saw the prettiest young thing with the cutest smile near Wilkens and Payson Friday evening. Brunette about a nine on the civilian scale. Well-dressed and well-groomed. Any 411?

She's a civilian. Our girl don't look like that, and you know it.
If you don't leave the civilians alone, the cops come down harder on us.
If you want a fantasy, order it off Eros.

Bench

**Smiling Fox** · 07-10-10 10:07

Nuance of a rule... i think this is not a contrary opinion.
And I would surely not disagree with the infamous Clixx. He is correct, of course. But I think it safe to say, that we fully understand what and why the rule stands.

look, we all understand its generally what we say. you don't talk sex, you don't touch or talk money. these are dangerous subjects, until your as sure as possible. The girls that know, have the same problem, they don't know you. I would not want to give newer or the inexperienced mongers, hunters, hobbyest, the advice that its ok to talk to SW/LE stings,,,, sometimes. ??? That will get you arrested.

As we become more experienced, we learn....

No Clixx your advice is not contrary, Just the words of an old sage monger, that understands the streets. We all have those amazing stories of girls and cops.

Be safe.
Smiling Fox ;}

**Clixxx** · 07-10-10 08:22

Alphonse Smith did the right thing but also did nothing wrong.

I disagree that it is wrong to talk to a SW through a window. HOwever it is imperative NOT TO TALK BUSINESS through the window. A short and sweet "shout out" through the window asking say "do you need a ride" or "do you need some help" or "do you know where ______ is" are absolutely benign (legally and otherwise). The stopping of the vehicle and engaging briefly the potential SW sends a signal to any experienced SW that you are interested.

Seasoned mongers should always be deliberate - haste will often get one in trouble. If one sees a SW that may be too hot to be true, she may be LE. However, we have all had those gems from time to time turn out to be working after all.

Once spotted, take the time to circle a couple of times to get the lay of the land - is the girl or girls staying within the same general location (not moving far from a corner and or well populated location)? Are there any vehicles in the local vicinity that are occupied and "smell of bacon""? Perhaps move on.

However, lets say your willie is too intrigued, continue to be deliberate and park yourself where you can watch for a minute or two. Is the girl engaging potential mongers through the window and declining to get in? Is the apparent conversation fairly long? Is this pattern repeated? MOVE ON. (She is likely LE trying to extract key legal words from the monger recorded that can be used in court (like a sexual acts, money, etc.)). Police want airtight cases to go to the judge and get convictions. If the girl never gets in a car as you watch then she will not likely get in yours. If a car leaves without her and police POUNCE on that car within a block or two you know for sure dont you.

All in all, it is OK to engage a potential SW with benign statements through the window just dont be stupid in what you say (regardless of potentially being LE or not). Be short and brief. If she wants to engage in what could be extended conversation beyond a response to your inquiry or talk "business" through the window FORGET IT. SHe may or may not be LE but it is not worth it at this point.

Be smart. Dont think with your little head. Refrain business talk until she is in the car AND you have driven a distance or out of the immediate jurisdiction.

This is a good strategy a deliberate smart way to engage potential SW.

Please note that some of my best "picks" have been those engaged with out of the car. For example, you see a clean civilian type, that you have never seen before, sitting on the rowhouse steps who apparently is looking, perhaps unsure how to give the "look" and not coming to the curb during one of your passes as you "get the lay of the land". YOur instincts tell you maybe she is wanting to work but new to the business and unsure what to do. Make sure she sees your face as you drive by. By all means consider parking the car (block or so away) and walk up to her. During the drive by and walk keep radar up - scan well for the smell of bacon and true civilian behavior. Her eyes/look will be strong tell as you approach her "stoop" if she is a newbie you will be able to tell. Ask a benign question and engage in non specific discussion. If she is a civilian the conversation will be curt. If she is a newbie, she will engage you and not "direct" the conversation. You should be able to have her walk with you to your car to "help you find where ______ is located" and then once in the car and driving away you can take care of business.
I have gotten some fresh apparent first timers who need money for whatever reason this way e.g. the diamond in the rough.

Anyway, do be safe by not being stupid. Think with your big head and be deliberate.

Monger on
clix

**Old Monger** · 07-10-10 06:42

Saw the prettiest young thing with the cutest smile near Wilkens and Payson Friday evening. Brunette about a nine on the civilian scale. Well-dressed and well-groomed. Any 411?

**Old Monger** · 07-10-10 06:39

Once saw a sting set-up on Wilkens near the big Catholic church between Brunswick and Millington. The bitches were on Wilkens, and this cop who looked like Lurch from the Addams family was parked on Millington near Christian.

**Smiling Fox** · 07-10-10 02:42

It is amazing. I recall my early newbie days, the rule was never talk to a girl thru the open window. What ... I was over on Wash blvd. There were two nice lookin ladies hangin out by the Aldi. So I pulled into the Aldi parking lot.
Hmmm, and pulled into a parking place. A pick up truck pulled in right behind me. Poor sucker never had a chance. The girl was going to walk over to my car, but the walked over to the pick up truck window and started talkin to the boy. LOL. So help me, I thought the cops came out of every direction. Circled the poor boy and dragged him off to the jail. I walked into the Aldi. The girls were watching me too. And sure enough when I came out, some other poor fool was gettin carried off.

Get out of Dodge.

Understand that I wasnt sure how to do this, but I knew that if they were real SW, the girl would just walk over and basically get in the car. No way was I going to talk to them thru a window. And my aliby was covered. I was shopping at the Aldi. Get out of the car and walk in.

It becomes so real, so poiniant, and it makes such an impression.
so be safe out there
Smiling Fox ;}

**Joseleche** · 07-09-10 22:34

Originally Posted by Loop Vet

Definitely 5-0. 100%. She went to drivers side to get the microphone close enough to clearly record you solicit. Good job.

I wrote this report with my alias detailing a bust i witnessed eerily similar to what happened to you but the monger wasn't as smart as you were.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...&postcount=696

Good info, but I believe you would have done the right thing after chit-chat and drive off then, though DC cops may lie and harrass the crap out of you.

**Alphonse Smith** · 07-09-10 21:36

Originally Posted by Loop Vet

Definitely 5-0. 100%. She went to drivers side to get the microphone close enough to clearly record you solicit. Good job.

I wrote this report with my alias detailing a bust i witnessed eerily similar to what happened to you but the monger wasn't as smart as you were.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...&postcount=696

I read the your whole post and I am glad I drive away. The link is very helpful

**Loop Vet** · 07-09-10 19:12

Originally Posted by Alphonse Smith

I begin by calling Peggy and she said she is available but I waited and she did not get out the house. I saw pair of WSW near Royal Farm on Washington. One is a blonde and white shirt. The other is a red hair in purple T-shirt and white short. I drive by and one call out to me. When I turn to a side street the red hair, purple shirt girl walk to me but instead of get in my car she came to the driver side window. I asked her if she need a ride and want to come in the car. She said "I want to make some money" and "What are you looking for?"

I smelled something fishy and said "sorry, wrong person" and drove away. As I drove away, there was another white pick up truck stop by. WHen I came back 10 minutes later the blonde is gone but the purple shirt girl still there.

I think the purple one is definitely an undercover but please let me know more information and did I respond correctly.

I pick up Melissa on Washington on the way back. She is blond, about 25, and skinny. She want 30 for a BJ and I counter with 20. Her skill is decent but she was rushing me. I will not repeat since rushing is a huge turn off for me.

Be careful out there.

Definitely 5-0. 100%. She went to drivers side to get the microphone close enough to clearly record you solicit. Good job.

I wrote this report with my alias detailing a bust i witnessed eerily similar to what happened to you but the monger wasn't as smart as you were.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...&postcount=696

**Alphonse Smith** · 07-09-10 17:39

Originally Posted by Bad Bad Boy

ALPHONSE, YOU DID THE RIGHT THING - FOLLOW YOUR GUT REACTION. When in doubt - bail out. There's always another girl coming down the road, Why take a chance, it wasn't worth the risk. The girls on the loop know how the game is played and don't conduct business through an open car window while on a public road. Since she didn't get in your ride after being invited, and set off all the red warning flags - she may have been undercover,stonned, or running some other scam. Nice job- always play it safe! I like to circle the block to see if there is anything suspicious before making the pick up. BBB

Thank you for your advice. I also noticed that she look kind of a little too pretty. Not for a civilian but for a SW she is definitely a 8 or 9 and that also making me nervous. Another sign is her white short which is a little too short for the average SW. She also has a tattoo under her left arm.

**Old Monger** · 07-09-10 15:11

One of the fundamental laws of gentlermongering ought to be NEVER talk to the lady through the automobile window. Make the lady get in your car and drive away before discussing matters. Because a mongering excursion ought to end with an orgasm, not a fingerprinting.