"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

**Peter Johnson** · 10-25-25 06:57

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...0-6f259a1a7c07

I saw this one awhile back and can't remember if I did a review at the time, but either way this is a new profile that she has since then. Ppm was 400, although I have heard can get for less sometimes. She was fine with taking pics, and also CIP was on the table. I didn't repeat but it's very rare that I ever do. The power of new poon should not be understated.

Anyway, I would recommend this one if someone asked me. Nice girl, and treat her right.

**Peter Johnson** · 10-25-25 06:29

Originally Posted by Verdit [View Original Post]

https://members.seeking.com/member/4fc7740f-4c50-4ef5-a456-fa695df70060

She seemed like a nice girl, but then she told me that she wanted $800 PER MEET and then we eventually move into an allowance situation.

It's not even a question of can I afford it, I just can't rationalize spending THAT MUCH money on something I can get the same quality at a much more reasonable rate.

Yes but that takes more time and effort on your part, and it's not going to get you that specific girl, just another one who about the same quality.

I'm not giving 800 to anyone, but if some guy has 5x as much $$$ as I do, then it's the same as me giving someone $150 or so, which doesn't really register as significant. In that case, I wouldn't bother to shop around for a girl who is $100 instead, I would just go ahead and take the new pussy that is laid out there in front of me, at that moment.

Originally Posted by GoneForGood97 [View Original Post]

They don't. All they understand is what they heard on tiktok / twitter, where some LA or NYC based instamodel who is a LA 8 or 9 brags about "knowing her worth" and "never settling for less than 800" from some "splenda daddy".

The connection they fail to make is 1) social media is full of liars who intentionally inflate everything about their lifestyle for more clicks / engagement. The SB influencers are no different from the fitness ones or a million others. "Fake it til you make it" is the rule of the day. So you have social media "influencers" who have every incentive in the world to lie about what they're paid because no girl wants to hear that someone prettier than them is making only 400 and 2) an LA instamodel is simply WORTH MORE than a pretty Atlanta girl. It's confidence shattering, so they simply ignore it and think they are "worth" the same. At the end of the day, it's just GPS.

That is the great mystery. Do these girls who claim to get $800 ppm actually receive that, and how often? Certainly some do, but is it once a week, or once every three months, or twice a year?

Of course it all comes down to supply and demand. There are X number of guys out there who are multi millionaires and literally have money to burn. And there are X number of young pretty girls who will fuck for cash. So how does that all balance out and where is "price equilibrium"? We just don't know, but of course it is fine to speculate, as I do as well.

I don't doubt at all that a smoking hot 22 y.o white girl can get $2000 a month, or more, from the right SD. I'm friends with a very avg 49 y/o who has been seeing a guy for months and gets 400 each time. She and I haven't even dated, she doesn't have much of an incentive to lie about it. So that says a lot, or at least something.

And a friend of another one gets $1500 per meet and has been doing so since she was 18. (actually not 18, but not sure what I should say here).

Many of these girls (especially the hot ones) have guys send them hundreds of dollars, without even meeting in person. So that really raises the bar, and if they have to do some actual work, and spread their legs, they are going to want even more. So many are just not that desperate for cash and they would rather just wait on $800 once every two months, than $400 3 x a month. Yes most of them love to fuck, but they really don't get off on doing it with multiple older guys that much, at least not frequently.

What I don't totally understand is how a 43 y/o who is a 6 or 7 can insist on 500 ppm. I just wonder how often she gets that. But again my friend does get it, and men sometimes want companionship more than sex, and will pay for it.

Well we do all agree that GPS is very real, and a lot of these girls have a breathtaking sense of entitlement. When I see a "Spoil Me!" profile, I never even bother to click on it or send a message. But there's also a lot of power and value in beauty, and no doubt a lot of guys are paying it, although perhaps not as many as some claim.

**GoneForGood97** · 10-25-25 00:56

Originally Posted by Verdit [View Original Post]

https://members.seeking.com/member/4fc7740f-4c50-4ef5-a456-fa695df70060

She seemed like a nice girl, but then she told me that she wanted $800 PER MEET and then we eventually move into an allowance situation.

It's not even a question of can I afford it, I just can't rationalize spending THAT MUCH money on something I can get the same quality at a much more reasonable rate.

Do these girls not understand economics?

They don't. All they understand is what they heard on tiktok / twitter, where some LA or NYC based instamodel who is a LA 8 or 9 brags about "knowing her worth" and "never settling for less than 800" from some "splenda daddy".

The connection they fail to make is 1) social media is full of liars who intentionally inflate everything about their lifestyle for more clicks / engagement. The SB influencers are no different from the fitness ones or a million others. "Fake it til you make it" is the rule of the day. So you have social media "influencers" who have every incentive in the world to lie about what they're paid because no girl wants to hear that someone prettier than them is making only 400 and 2) an LA instamodel is simply WORTH MORE than a pretty Atlanta girl. It's confidence shattering, so they simply ignore it and think they are "worth" the same. At the end of the day, it's just GPS.

**Verdit** · 10-24-25 16:23

https://members.seeking.com/member/4fc7740f-4c50-4ef5-a456-fa695df70060

She seemed like a nice girl, but then she told me that she wanted $800 PER MEET and then we eventually move into an allowance situation.

It's not even a question of can I afford it, I just can't rationalize spending THAT MUCH money on something I can get the same quality at a much more reasonable rate.

Do these girls not understand economics?

**Airmantroy** · 10-24-25 10:17

Originally Posted by PeterJohnson [View Original Post]

Thank you, my man. I suppose I need to get back on TeR and check it out, and cross reference some of these girls.

I wouldn't have caught it myself except some of her pics showed a distinctive tat, I remembered seeing it and then cross checked the pics. Luckily I had to cancel my meet with her, I had her down to 400 and she was hosting. Had a meet set with Janisa a day or so later and she gave me the same address for hosting. I confirmed she shared the place with "Kendall". Apparently they bounce around in AirBnB rentals.

**Peter Johnson** · 10-24-25 09:16

Originally Posted by Airmantroy [View Original Post]

She's a pro. Has reviews on TeR under NovaCane. Works alongside / with Janisa on Seeking. Reviews mention ripoff. Avoid that one.

Thank you, my man. I suppose I need to get back on TeR and check it out, and cross reference some of these girls.

**Airmantroy** · 10-24-25 08:57

Originally Posted by PeterJohnson [View Original Post]

I'm sure some of you guys have seen Kendall:

https://members.seeking.com/member/4...e-4ecd00ceb7e0

She seems stuck on 500 ppm, and I should probably do M&G vibe check before making that kind of investment. But if anyone has intel to share, feel free post it here or just DM me. Thanks much.

She's a pro. Has reviews on TeR under NovaCane. Works alongside / with Janisa on Seeking. Reviews mention ripoff. Avoid that one.

**Peter Johnson** · 10-24-25 08:27

I'm sure some of you guys have seen Kendall:

https://members.seeking.com/member/4...e-4ecd00ceb7e0

She seems stuck on 500 ppm, and I should probably do M&G vibe check before making that kind of investment. But if anyone has intel to share, feel free post it here or just DM me. Thanks much.

**Oldhead77** · 10-23-25 22:48

Originally Posted by PeterJohnson [View Original Post]

https://members.seeking.com/member/d...0-137076e761f9

Lys (formerly Lyss) has a new profile and account. She is one of the worst dates I've had from the site and at least two other guys on here had similar experence.

She doesn't look that much like her pics, in person. Very chunky little body. I took some pics when I was with her, but I suppose should not share those on here. But avoid unless you are in a masochistic, money wasting mood that day.

I almost saw her 2 years ago, we agreed to meet but when I asked her a few questions, she started to give me an attitude. That's a red flag for me.

**Peter Johnson** · 10-23-25 20:14

https://members.seeking.com/member/d...0-137076e761f9

Lys (formerly Lyss) has a new profile and account. She is one of the worst dates I've had from the site and at least two other guys on here had similar experence.

She doesn't look that much like her pics, in person. Very chunky little body. I took some pics when I was with her, but I suppose should not share those on here. But avoid unless you are in a masochistic, money wasting mood that day.

**Airmantroy** · 10-23-25 17:02

Originally Posted by PeterJohnson [View Original Post]

I don't have link to the profile, because I blocked her. She was talking about "$350 for an hour" in Seeking messages and trying to get both of us banned. I mean nearly all of the girls on the site are quasi-escorts, but this one is just straight up. She wants $350 and you know it's going to be clockwatching, not a casual cool date. And she doesn't even have a lower price for just BBBJ.

She's staying in the Guest Inn on Ptree Industrial in Norcross. I am not far from there, so am half tempted but just have a bad feeling about it. She does look pretty good, no doubt about that. And sounds like CIP is just fine (and got to assume high traffic). I suppose I could have posted this in the Escort thread, but she is on Seeking so just a heads up here. I wish I had her number but I blocked and deleted the conversation from my inbox before I saved it.

She was fine with getting on Signal too, which I still insist is better if you are openly talking about exchanging $$$ for sexual services. I had disappearing messages set for four hours with that conversation.

She's a wannabe pro that hasn't discovered Listcrawler. STG. Met her in person and immediately didn't trust her, sent her packing with her pimp / bf / simp who gave her a ride. Best guess is she's a junkie, she's texted me offering all kinds of threesomes and such since. I'm not that desperate.

**Muffin6655** · 10-23-25 02:32

Val made a new account recently, https://members.seeking.com/member/5...a-be36598050fc.

We did end up meeting and it was well worth it, she also does content and if anyone wants to share vids you get from her dm and I can get you her snap. And we can trade.

**OliverNP** · 10-22-25 20:47

Originally Posted by PeterJohnson [View Original Post]

If there was a backdoor in Signal, it would be discernible in the open source code. But it's not, because there isn't. Sure there is always some risk of them pushing an auto update with such malicious code, that could do some harm before it was recognized, but that's about it.

Nope.

And here is the point you're missing, and it's a huge one.

There is absolutely no guarantee that the code you see in the open source repo is necessarily, byte for byte the same code that gets deployed.

All it takes is a very brief court action by the right people to redirect the DNS resolution of one endpoint that the user is used to, to another one that looks alike at the UI level but has "lots of extra features in the new build".

I did exactly that kind of work for years and was well paid for it. You have absolutely no idea how naive the average open-source believer is to what really happens. Its very obvious by what you've written.

**Peter Johnson** · 10-22-25 08:12

So is there currently a way to bypass the selfie verify step to create a Sugardaddymeet account? I wasn't sure if that popped up, because I was using VPN or if it always happens, with all new accts just like with Seeking now. No way I am doing that, but I was curious to give it a try, although I still figure that Seeking is better.

**Peter Johnson** · 10-21-25 21:47

I don't have link to the profile, because I blocked her. She was talking about "$350 for an hour" in Seeking messages and trying to get both of us banned. I mean nearly all of the girls on the site are quasi-escorts, but this one is just straight up. She wants $350 and you know it's going to be clockwatching, not a casual cool date. And she doesn't even have a lower price for just BBBJ.

She's staying in the Guest Inn on Ptree Industrial in Norcross. I am not far from there, so am half tempted but just have a bad feeling about it. She does look pretty good, no doubt about that. And sounds like CIP is just fine (and got to assume high traffic). I suppose I could have posted this in the Escort thread, but she is on Seeking so just a heads up here. I wish I had her number but I blocked and deleted the conversation from my inbox before I saved it.

She was fine with getting on Signal too, which I still insist is better if you are openly talking about exchanging $$$ for sexual services. I had disappearing messages set for four hours with that conversation.

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And another one... Lily 23 in "Atlanta:

https://members.seeking.com/member/62fe3361-7847-40e6-a990-2505eb835f2f

That one says she is really in Costa Rica and wants some guy to fly down there to meet her. She comes to ATL twice a year (and not now). So don't waste your time with her unless you are into that.