Non Pro's

[Number3344]

This chick has me laughing. I found her by adding randoms on snapchat and she just posted very basic egirl bullshit on her story for like a year until she randomly is like "yeah I'm doing meets in the pear today" so more out of curiosity I hit her up. She quotes me nine right out of the gate. So I push to get a little more info and she basically implies covered FS and there will be nothing else really at all, so I can't imagine that is even good. She deletes me when I tell her so. I added her for kicks a few weeks ago again and I saw she's now dancing at desire. So again I'm asking her when and stuff. She keeps messaging me asking when I will be there (even though I told her I was planning on going a different night). Tonight comes and she's dogging me like a fucking salesmen asking if I'll be there, so I ask how much is the cover and how much is a dance. I'm hungover and fucked recently so my desire to go is low. She hits me back saying cover is 20, and a dance is usually 100 but she'll do 60. She also said she has discounts on cover. I said I would think about it and she fucking kept dogging me asking if I was going to go. Finally I say no and she's gone. There is no charm in her interactions. Seems like probably a semi. I'd love to here thoughts or stories, but I'm leaving this here just in case it isn't crystal clear after interacting with her for 2 messages.

https://members.seeking.com/member/9...b-07c3bd19cb92

[ButtMan343]

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...6-24e1cb09fb21

Iris, 24 very thin nice tight pussy. Works evenings at a dive strip club called the lounge.

Came over to my hotel after work spent about 90 min with her.

400.

[Amp Guide]

Super cute face. Body is not thin. But I usually love the BJ action more than anything else. Just let her work it and work it. My old girl seems to have disappeared Oh well. She was headed downhill anyway. However the new girls I am chatting with has some mis skewed values. She things she is a 10 when she is a 5 with a cute face. We shall see who prevails. I have the money she needs. But am not overpaying. Sometimes we have to let the girls know we are in charge and if I am paying, I want what I want. Like a restaurant, If I wanted Kale. I would order that shit. Now give me a steak. Non pros are a bit harder to find. But it does happen.

[ButtMan343]

https://members.seeking.com/member/9...3-3e7bf2827bee

Had a meet and greet with her. Has memory issues it seems but have a date planned. Will pass on how it goes.

[Berol Loz]

A friend of mine who was using SB messaged me a few days ago and asked if I was using SB. I'm not (this thread is a good reason why) and he told me he couldn't purchase credits. It rejects his attempts immediately and won't allow him to switch his payment method. He reached out to SB several times and nobody gets back to him.

So, I do some digging. Turns out, that's how the platform shadow-bans you. They don't remove your profile or prohibit anyone from seeing or interacting with you; they just make it impossible to purchase credits.

He'd done nothing wrong. The "worst" he'd done is report a few members for being rude / fake / whatever, but that's normal. I've done that on Seeking a TON and can still purchase a membership there.

And sugardaddymeet.com and luxurydates.com are sister sites to Seeking Benefits. And all are owned by the same company. They have many of the same members and are supported by the same underlying architecture / services.

And as I've reported before, many women who sign up for one site don't know they're also being surfaced on other sites. I also suspect, after a conversation with a user, that AI is being used to generate "verification" videos. I got to know her fairly well and she told me she never recorded a verification video, and hasn't used the platform in over 6 months, but she's "active" on these platforms and has a verification video.

On top of having fake members and using AI to generate conversations and make verification videos, these three platforms also shadow-ban you. Now you know.

Thanks for this, yes Seeking Benefits is pretty know for doing shady stuff.

But no, SugardaddyMeet is it's own thing, they've been around almost as long as Seeking (2007). Like Seeking it works on a monthly membership, none of that buy credits to answer spam messages BS.

It has nothing to do with Seeking Benefits. Secret Benefits runs sugardaddy.com, sugardaddy. Ca, sugardaddy. Co. Uk, etc. And like you said they run the same zombie profiles.

Luxurydate.com also looks like it's using the same template as sugardaddy.com/ ca / uk, so probably is part of Seeking Benefits too.

If you're interested in Seeking Benefits, here's some background:

https://www.reddit.com/r/sugarlifest...benefits_scam/

https://www.reddit.com/r/sugarlifest..._it_is_a_scam/

Sorry your friend lost money, but just stay away from SB, there are real girls on there, but you can waste a lot of money trying to filter the bots. Yes, Seeking/SDM have bots too, but at least you don't have to pay money to read messages or look at pictures.

[Mizunate]

I gave a "review" here: http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...640&viewfull=1#post7028640.

There's more context, though.

I was chatting someone up on SB a while back, and the conversation fell off. It happens, no big deal. But then she "favorited" me on Seeking. I found it odd she would blow me off via one platform, but favorite me on another.

So, I chatted her up on Seeking, and again, the conversation fell off. Whatever. I wished her well and she explained she was going through some life things, and would reconnect later. Again, no big deal, we all go through it sometimes.

Then I asked why she blew me off via SB. She told me the site was auto-generating messages from her account, and it seems to be using A. I. To do so.

More to the point, SB is part of a series of sites, and accounts are syndicated across those sites. I found this out because a woman I gave my number to reached out and said "hi, this is (name) from (site I've never heard of)" and we compared notes.

And the woman whose account was being used to start fake conversations never signed up for Seeking Benefits. She signed up for another site altogether, and her profile was syndicated to SB.

So, long story short, SB appears to be starting fake conversations from real accounts using A. I. , and syndicating profiles across various sites. This would also explain why they were so adamant they filter fake profiles. Why worry about fake profiles when you just use A. I. To start fake conversations from real accounts?

Great way to get dudes to waste their tokens, too.

Anyway, that's their business model. Now you know.

A friend of mine who was using SB messaged me a few days ago and asked if I was using SB. I'm not (this thread is a good reason why) and he told me he couldn't purchase credits. It rejects his attempts immediately and won't allow him to switch his payment method. He reached out to SB several times and nobody gets back to him.

So, I do some digging. Turns out, that's how the platform shadow-bans you. They don't remove your profile or prohibit anyone from seeing or interacting with you; they just make it impossible to purchase credits.

He'd done nothing wrong. The "worst" he'd done is report a few members for being rude / fake / whatever, but that's normal. I've done that on Seeking a TON and can still purchase a membership there.

And sugardaddymeet.com and luxurydates.com are sister sites to Seeking Benefits. And all are owned by the same company. They have many of the same members and are supported by the same underlying architecture / services.

And as I've reported before, many women who sign up for one site don't know they're also being surfaced on other sites. I also suspect, after a conversation with a user, that AI is being used to generate "verification" videos. I got to know her fairly well and she told me she never recorded a verification video, and hasn't used the platform in over 6 months, but she's "active" on these platforms and has a verification video.

On top of having fake members and using AI to generate conversations and make verification videos, these three platforms also shadow-ban you. Now you know.

[ButtMan343]

https://members.seeking.com/member/6...f-1119331fbb2e

Anyone seen this girl? She's in Portland.

[Smith1968]

Wants $5 for time with her and her husband. Her fitness level has me very curious but, while open minded. His presence gives me pause.

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...0-683536f1d7db

[StubbornMule]

That's a tough one to answer as it can depend on a variety of factors. But let's say our criteria is availability of women who are active on the board (s), how attractive the women are, pricing (no GPS), and whether these women follow through on meeting up and having fun.

If those are our criteria, I've had the most success in areas that are more conservative and a bit remote. Salt Lake City was good to me. So was San Antonio. Boise was fun, too.

Similarly, really populous areas can be good if you can communicate in volume. I've had a lot of success in California, but you have to chat up a LOT of girls as most will flake on you. But the density of attractive women is worth the hassle, most of the time.

Seattle can be great if you make that trek, and I've found quite a few women in that area are pretty straightforward about meeting up and getting paid, so it works.

(Since we're in the PNW, I'll add that Canada can be great, too. I know it's not domestic, but I've had a lot of fun across Canada as well.).

I've developed a solid communication strategy for being an out-of-towner since most want an ongoing thing, and it's worked well for me.

And any time any of you Senior Members want to chat or pick my brain or whatever, PM me. I'm happy to help when I can.

1) Which do you prefer for sugar, Vancouver, Montreal, or Toronto?

2) What is this out-of-towner communication strategy?

[TryHard]

I've never met anyone off Fet, it seems rather hard to find the women through the see of lurking guys. And I'm in my early 50's and lacking the fitness of my youth. While PDX is pretty dad-bod friendly, it is still harder to compete with the guys that have more physical attributes to offer.

Seeking had way better results for me. I had a few "arrangements" that had nothing to do with money, and a few that were very allowance based. A lot of time and efforts to find and set things up, but once in place it was great. I think you have to be somewhat of a empathic guy and show some caring to your sugar baby though. Some stories I heard make me a bit embarrassed with my fellow men out there. Women want to feel safe, and that means a bit of communication and empathy. I would guess that most girls on seeking have some serious daddy issues. When they feel safe, they really let go and get a bit wild. Super fun. When things wind down, I also make sure that things end very positive. That has resulted in a few booty calls from past SBs at "no charge" other than me taking them out to dinner and listening to their break-up story, how their life is going, etc.

I would love to have Fet work though. Casual hookups sound fun. Sadly the internet was so new when I was in my 20's to 30's that I missed out on being young to play the online hookup roulette.

Fet works pretty well. Slow play the dms and don't act too pushy and they will open up like a flower. I pay some $ and keep my anonymity. Think I've met five or six on fet and still see three. Never have seen a condom with them.

[PoonHound1969]

Watch the movie Solitary Man with Michael Douglas. He shows you how to pick up the younger women. I like the lines and would use it in a heartbeat.

They work when you look like Michael Douglas.

[Amp Guide]

Watch the movie Solitary Man with Michael Douglas. He shows you how to pick up the younger women. I like the lines and would use it in a heartbeat.

[QuickFoot]

I had a few hookups from Reddit in the past. I treat it more like Tinder or Fet. I've never paid for services through any of the 3 and had some good luck on all, but they are an all a ton of work. You have to send a ton of messages, get few responses and then just when you think you're about to close the deal on the meet about 1/3 of the time she goes ghost. But. Sometimes you find yourself balls deep in a freaky hottie.

Of the 3, fet has been my best for effort / reward. I gave up on Reddit last year, the effort was not worth the reward.

The very very best was Craigslist Casual Encounters back in the day. Fuck I had a ton of fun with ladies from there. I miss that so much.

I've never met anyone off Fet, it seems rather hard to find the women through the see of lurking guys. And I'm in my early 50's and lacking the fitness of my youth. While PDX is pretty dad-bod friendly, it is still harder to compete with the guys that have more physical attributes to offer.

Seeking had way better results for me. I had a few "arrangements" that had nothing to do with money, and a few that were very allowance based. A lot of time and efforts to find and set things up, but once in place it was great. I think you have to be somewhat of a empathic guy and show some caring to your sugar baby though. Some stories I heard make me a bit embarrassed with my fellow men out there. Women want to feel safe, and that means a bit of communication and empathy. I would guess that most girls on seeking have some serious daddy issues. When they feel safe, they really let go and get a bit wild. Super fun. When things wind down, I also make sure that things end very positive. That has resulted in a few booty calls from past SBs at "no charge" other than me taking them out to dinner and listening to their break-up story, how their life is going, etc.

I would love to have Fet work though. Casual hookups sound fun. Sadly the internet was so new when I was in my 20's to 30's that I missed out on being young to play the online hookup roulette.

[Amp Guide]

Right on man. The nurses I have done are all great. So open and know what they want and how to give also The Florence Nightingale complex.

Off to Redit and fetlife. I need to find a new regular My old one went dark after about 6 years or so. But she had gone downhill a bit in looks. I do and did like shocking her with holding all moaning and just being totally calm while the first huge spurt erupts into her mouth, No warning. Just a sudden mouth filling surprise for her. The look on her face is sometime priceless.

Back to work. Hot weather coming.

[Kinksty]

I too miss the CL Casual Encounters days. You could find a bored mistreated housewife and have a ton of fun with a hottie and they love to be pleased. Sadly thoes days are long gone. Not a lot of trust anymore I get that Fet is ok. Like anything else You have to do the time to get results. CL was just easier, Nurses were also the top of my list, They are always a fun great group of girls.

So much spam to sort out now days. Maybe an AI program to help find girls might be worth some money.

Best All rain today.

Yes!! Nurses! What is it about nurses? I swear 1/2 of the slutty civvies I've fucked are nurses. If you can find a travel nurse that wants a local regular to fuck while she's in town, they're the best! Been lucky enough to find a few in my past.