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  1. #57

    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder

    Quote Originally Posted by HornyToad75  [View Original Post]
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7422922

    Want to provide some feedback on the review. Saki is tanned with club girl vibe and tattoos on both upper arms. True spinner, with A cup and flat ass. I would say she is early to mid-30's. Accommodating and is DTF with good services, including light rimming. Only con is that she does use a lot of lube, and she is not super tight. At least for me, it took a few minutes to wear out the lube to feel her box. Definitely recommend if you prefer service over look.
    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Some say Aoi is HYA. I beg to differ. Maybe CYA at best. Kuzumi was HYA, but maybe her personality soured her face for me. Post-nut I would downgrade her looks. Riri CYA. Cherry CYA. Yaya is CYA. Bin pretty. Love Q between cute and pretty. Saki, at least for me, I'm mesmerized by her eyes and smile. She’s between pretty and hot for me IMHO.

  2. #56

    Saki J

    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7422922

    Want to provide some feedback on the review. Saki is tanned with club girl vibe and tattoos on both upper arms. True spinner, with A cup and flat ass. I would say she is early to mid-30's. Accommodating and is DTF with good services, including light rimming. Only con is that she does use a lot of lube, and she is not super tight. At least for me, it took a few minutes to wear out the lube to feel her box. Definitely recommend if you prefer service over look.

  3. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by DownloadX  [View Original Post]
    Like you, full HR is up to my mood. Sometimes it lets me vibe while other times I wish I didn't with HYA. Sometimes the girl tries her best but 30-45 minutes is all she's got. At least the second half is heavily discounted, and with younger girls I see it as "just a chance" to try. It won't always work out. If a girl is making the effort or still learning, that's good enough for me but I'll recommend hh for others. As you say, you can go a full hr and feel it's not worth it, it is hard to get a full hour of royal treatment with newer girls or low vibe girls.

    I don't usually aim to be an early appointment, but sometimes I picked a girl as backup and find out I'm one of her very first. One girl was so new she didn't get in the shower with me and only undressed after closing the bathroom door. She was embarrassed for me to see her naked. So I calmed her down and just had her lay naked with me as we looked at each other a while and worked on her real slow. Things got better and later I asked for some LFK since it was just a peck on the lips so far. She said - and I believe her - that she has never tongue kissed a man before. I'll skip the rest to say that I did my best to make her comfortable and it was a very nice civvie style hookup. I gave her some words of encouragement and said that if she's going to stick around, she might as well put in full effort and try to get richer so to speak. Later in her tour, I read multiple reviews of next level service. I knew at least some of these reviews were real, but it was a huge jump. So I tried her again and saw how much she improved, she had such confidence. It had been less than one week. That is how ymmv service can be, it can go up and it can go down in a matter of days.

    It's true that some girls are going to be hype - usually another guy vibed well with her and got exactly what he wanted but it's not going to help you or I if we don't connect too. I don't mind that, I can see the appeal even if a girl isn't my type and move on. If I had a fair chance and she has some appeal, that's good enough for me. In the long run, I'll have many wins with that approach. Other times, I'm one of the few that like a girl. Just how it is.

    One person remarked on post-nut clarity, admitting the girls were at least young and very hot. He just wondered why he paid so much. I told him you could pay 600 to be dropped off at the top of Mount Everest and you'll go "That's it?"

    The idea of reaching the top of the mountain used to seem completely impossible after all.
    Yes interesting. The whole "YMMV" concept can be a double-edged sword. Many mongers are not as experienced or as patient as you to quickly and subtly identify a provider's inexperience nonetheless guide them afterwards with advice. What fittingly appeared as lacking skill and experience to you by the provider can make a naive monger feel as if she were not attracted to him or was trying to minimize effort or whatever other information we come across on threads like these. Those things matter. These trivial details become quite noticeable in the industry especially in recent years with changes we see, whether it be quality of provider, booker, or clientele. Sometimes its vital and very much necessary to call a spade a spade.

  4. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by LabiaFedora  [View Original Post]
    Nice write up. I wonder if there is any room for some "post-nut clarity" that becomes obvious during a session for the average monger, or any other potential outliers to include in calculation. For me, comes down to if I want a service or looks type of session. Long or short. Some of these girls are all hype, which is very subjective, and that is certainly why having your own set of personal value rating system can be of use. Some mongers book the HHR simply to get the deed done and move on, while those who prefer some royal service opt for the HR and can still get gypped. I would argue you don't necessarily always deserve to leave satisfied, but really more relaxed than when you came in. Many ways to skin a cat!
    Like you, full HR is up to my mood. Sometimes it lets me vibe while other times I wish I didn't with HYA. Sometimes the girl tries her best but 30-45 minutes is all she's got. At least the second half is heavily discounted, and with younger girls I see it as "just a chance" to try. It won't always work out. If a girl is making the effort or still learning, that's good enough for me but I'll recommend hh for others. As you say, you can go a full hr and feel it's not worth it, it is hard to get a full hour of royal treatment with newer girls or low vibe girls.

    I don't usually aim to be an early appointment, but sometimes I picked a girl as backup and find out I'm one of her very first. One girl was so new she didn't get in the shower with me and only undressed after closing the bathroom door. She was embarrassed for me to see her naked. So I calmed her down and just had her lay naked with me as we looked at each other a while and worked on her real slow. Things got better and later I asked for some LFK since it was just a peck on the lips so far. She said - and I believe her - that she has never tongue kissed a man before. I'll skip the rest to say that I did my best to make her comfortable and it was a very nice civvie style hookup. I gave her some words of encouragement and said that if she's going to stick around, she might as well put in full effort and try to get richer so to speak. Later in her tour, I read multiple reviews of next level service. I knew at least some of these reviews were real, but it was a huge jump. So I tried her again and saw how much she improved, she had such confidence. It had been less than one week. That is how ymmv service can be, it can go up and it can go down in a matter of days.

    It's true that some girls are going to be hype - usually another guy vibed well with her and got exactly what he wanted but it's not going to help you or I if we don't connect too. I don't mind that, I can see the appeal even if a girl isn't my type and move on. If I had a fair chance and she has some appeal, that's good enough for me. In the long run, I'll have many wins with that approach. Other times, I'm one of the few that like a girl. Just how it is.

    One person remarked on post-nut clarity, admitting the girls were at least young and very hot. He just wondered why he paid so much. I told him you could pay 600 to be dropped off at the top of Mount Everest and you'll go "That's it?"

    The idea of reaching the top of the mountain used to seem completely impossible after all.

  5. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by DownloadX  [View Original Post]
    Baby Rose and next Baby Mury are two very good looking HYA options in OC imo, but for rich guys only. If you do a CTRL+F search for her on this page, it contains all a HYA Hunter needs to know. Again, for rich HYA Hunters only. For jgirl lovers, Saki J is finally in OC too. Yaya J aka Ria J is in LA.
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7421707 Yaya aka Ria
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7422256 Other LA HYA options

    Other S-Tier girls will come in future weeks, though not necessarily OC first. I've already reviewed them.

    What is Value?
    Value means getting more for your dollar. There is a crude formula I use to evaluate value. The rules are:

    1) Rank a girl in looks and service as usual. For example among ATFs, Jenny K is B-A (B looks A service), Peach is A-A, and peak Katie K is S-A. Everyone will score girls differently, these are just my ratings.

    2) Next, convert those scores into points. S=5, A=4, B=3, C=2, D=1.

    3) Value = (Looks + Service) / Cost. Multiply by 1000 and round to get an integer score. 10 = average kgirl, 15 = occasional repeat for me, 20+ = priority repeat. I call this the Value Rating. To make a consistent comparison, I main use hh rates with bb since that is the best way to cheaply see girls for 'just the main event'. I'm normally one-shot.

    Using the three examples from step 1, I get:
    Jenny K = B-A / 300 hh = (3+4)/300 = 23 points
    Peach = A-A / 420 hh = (4+4)/420 = 19 points
    Katie K = S-A / 350+150 hh = (5+4)/500 = 18 points

    This is pretty similar to my gut feelings. Peach and Katie are beautiful and I look forward to seeing them, but I feel like I could see Jenny K more often and cheap. For regular rotation, I see girls like Jenny K. If I want an occasional luxury, I see Peach and Katie K.

    Peach and Katie scored close to each other, and I felt it's true that Peach at 420 was similar value to peak Katie K at 500. But let's suppose Katie got tired and her service dropped a point or two, then she'd score 16 or 14 points in value and be more a backup option. She still scores much higher than the average kgirl who is 10 points (ex. D-C at 300 hh), which is why I repeated Katie. So this formula reflects how I naturally evaluate girls anyways.

    While it's true that the very best cheap girls are the best value, it's not true that other cheap girls are good value. A girl you like is always going to be better value than a dud, even if she costs more. A dud is roughly 10 points and under to me.

    What does value mean for us in practice? I noticed that every ATF is great for the first visit, but I only repeated certain ATFs all the time while rarely the others. The main reason was value. You could say that "first visit" I am strongly "looks first" but for repeats, I suddenly care about service and price and this combined concept of value. For guys on a very limited budget, I suspect they may even feel that way about first visits too. I repeated Peach and Katie K since they were ATFs, but it was harder to justify frequent repeats when there were good alternatives.

    Average Kgirl Value Rating
    Here is how a dud looks to me in value. I removed the names since it doesn't matter - we all encounter them and there is an endless supply of mid girls. The first girl didn't have looks and was new. A nice girl but didn't have much to offer:
    Dud = D-D / 300 hh = (1+1)/300 = 7 points
    Dud = C-C / 300+100 hh = (2+2)/400 = 10 points

    7 points falls short of the 10 point benchmark. I was in an adventurous mood so I didn't mind as much, but it made me less likely to toftt for a while. Sometimes I want a "sure thing", so my choice is either a high scoring ATF I already know or to try a well-reviewed HYA from reviewers I recognized. The C-C dud was a HYA to other guys and I believe them, she just wasn't my type and she wasn't in a great mood either when I saw her. I can see her appeal and other guys probably got a lot more than 10 points out of her since they reported good attitude. But the 100 upcharge with okay service/attitude made it barely worth seeing her for me. This is why I aim for B-Tier if I'm willing to see C-Tier, or I aim for A-Tier if I'm willing to see B-Tier.

    I don't deny that premium girls are overpriced from the POV of normal guys and normal budgets. They are for rich guys. But I also always say that duds are even more overpriced than premium girls, and this Value Rating is what I mean. Below D-Tier, I would not see them even for free. Not even if they paid me.

    It's worth pointing out that most guys enjoy the novelty of a new girl, so many guys are happy enough to see a C or B tier girl once even if they won't repeat them. Some of these girls go on the backup list, especially if they have something special about them. You could say that new girls get a 25% to 50% scoring bonus. This bonus by default lasts only the first visit. But if you have a special connection with a girl, the bonus actually lasts (until you lose that connection). It also exists for ATFs you haven't seen in a long time.

    With Nali gone, I listed the current top value imo to be FA Tomi (31 points), Allie (27 points), and Jenny K (23 points). I'm sure every guy has a different list, but this is one way to calculate it for yourself. Some girls show up in many guys' lists. Once I confirmed this formula matched what I already knew, I could then go back and test out many other girls I hadn't yet evaluated:
    Premium Kgirl M = S-A / 400+200 hh = (5+4)/600 = 15 points
    MH Cherry = S-S / 260+100 hh = (5+5)/360 = 27 points
    Aoi J = A-A / 300+100 hh = (4+4)/400 = 20 points

    The Mount Everest Problem
    Seeing premium kgirls the first time was satisfying for me and like climbing a tall mountain. But after seeing a hot premium HYA with good looks but not much service, many of us felt "That's it?". It's like reaching the top of Mount Everest and after a while you have nothing more to do and you just gotta leave. It is a "just one time" experience sometimes.

    That's where value comes in for decision making. Value matters more on repeats for many guys. I didn't mind mind paying extra for a hot girl just one time. It just makes it hard to repeat her if she feels overpriced. Premium kgirls sometimes feel like ~15 points in value like the S-A example. Teh exception is if you manage a special connection. This is the 25% to 50% bonus that persists (until you lose that connection), turning 15 points into maybe 23 points (+50% bonus). It's probably why some guys scored Kuzumi well below 15 points while others scored her way higher than 20, depending on the connection and vibe. The scoring is very ymmv with HYA for those reasons, and it's also why you can suddenly stop liking a HYA one day. It turns out, the looks and service alone were not the real reason you repeated her so much.

    MH Cherry otoh was high looks high service but priced like Nali. Her score lines up with how busy she got. Many people repeated her twice or three times in a week. Maybe I saw her five..

    GFE vs bb girls
    The Value formula lets us compare very different girls with each other. But it's still hard to compare GFE girls with bb girls. So I will just say there are some GFE girls who have good pussy so they are as good as bb girls to me. FA Sammy (Latina) for example loves to bang:
    FA Sammy = B-B / (3+3)/240 = 25 points GFE

    For GFE guys, of course the list shifts around a lot since they don't have to pay upcharge. And for rich guys, the Value list doesn't mean much - they can just combine the score and get a simpler 0-10 rating. We can call that Overall Rating. For me though, the Value list does predict who I want to repeat regularly. Currently, there are only 4 girls who regularly tour that score 20 or higher:
    FA Tomi 31 points
    Allie aka Mina 27 points
    Jenny K 23 points
    Aoi J 20 points

    I regret not seeing my retired ATF more when she was around. She scored 27, before even factoring our connection. At the time, I did not realize how special she was because I was 80% only seeing her anyways. I had no idea what a unicorn she was. Once I turned into a HYA Hunter, I understood in hindsight that she was even better than I thought, because after seeing a lot of girls I never found a girl with her service until MH Cherry.

    Value Rating Scale
    20+ points: priority repeat
    15-19 points: periodic repeat (mostly "luxury" girls)
    11-14 points: one and done but satisfied due to "new girl" bonus
    7-10: average kgirl (D-C or C-D girl)
    New girl: 25% to 50% bonus points, extended if you really connect with her

    Recent Price Hikes
    It is worth pointing out that before the very rapid price increases of the last 2 years, the average kgirl scored much higher. I used to consider 50% of kgirls to be good value. Now I consider only the top 25% of kgirls to be, due to excessive price hikes. To be clear, the last 2 years of price increases were higher than the previous 10 combined.

    This was not inflation, just a bigger profit margin and to attract new girls. In fact, Thai orgs like Khaleesi1999 and FirstAsians are two agencies that did not rapidly increase rates as exceptions. You can still see girls for 220-240 hh. Even corgs still charge 240 hh for starter girls. LA corgs in particular have better looking girls, both average and the best. So there is something for everyone depending on which agency you use.
    https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/Khaleesi1999 Thai girls
    https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/FirstAsians Kgirls

    Special Terminology
    What is Agehao?
    https://www.instagram.com/reel/DN_vdS5E3eU/ Agehao
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahegao

    What is very skinny?
    https://www.instagram.com/_jung_u/reel/DNtICTxXuWq/ JHJ
    https://www.instagram.com/_jung_u/reel/DPT1Os1Dx1b/ JHJ

    How to Prepare HYA Updated
    Sometimes, we only fit 1/3 of the way in a girl. This is a general thing even a 5" guy can run into. But every time with a girl I was 1/3 of the way in first visit, on repeats I could go all the way in because she was much more relaxed. Sometimes a much smaller guy can't fit a girl but even though I'm much bigger I could. This is a ymmv factor about arousal. I cover this in the guide "How to Prepare HYA".

    First, I prepare the girl by making her feel safe and comfortable. A few words, some good eye contact, gentle touching and watching her reaction. The first few minutes of introduction are key. In bed, I work on the foreplay. Same as a man, a woman gets aroused and it starts extra blood flow. The blood flow causes the vaginal walls to swell and expand..and doubles the depth on average. Every woman is aroused differently..

    A typical vagina starts at 2 to 4 inches depth, growing to 5 to 8 inches after arousal. Even men cannot get arousal when stressed or scared, so it pays to prepare the woman. You are the main beneficiary..if necessary let the girl show you her desired pace to start. Then take over when things look good. When changing position to doggy, start slow again the first several strokes. Once I learned and improved this, I got along with girls in bed.

    It bears repeating that I could fit girls that much smaller guys couldn't, but it takes a lot of work and patience. I didn't know how to do any of this when I started out, but 10 years later I started getting much better at it. The hardest barrier is psychological for the girl - if she doesn't feel confident or is stressed / worried, that is hard to overcome first visit. So there are a few girls I could not fit first visit but could easily fit 2nd visit because of the confidence / comfort change.

    Special Body Types
    I will be working on body type guides for a while. Three special body types I like and are "hard to find" are: Team Seven, Perfect White TOAS Model, and Perfect Normal Model. Some definitions:

    Team Seven - Very skinny and petite and short, but mainting perfect proportions. I.e. model proportions rather than a stocky midget. Best examples: Seb1nnn, Gingira Nanase, peak Bona, Tiana. Rare.
    https://www.instagram.com/p/DP8WzCWElW5 Team Seven Body

    Perfect White TOAS Model - Skinny, full MM tits, very skinny waist, white body, good ass, and "not short". Best examples: MH Nina, MH Cherry. Uncommon.
    https://www.instagram.com/reel/DNUiIe1yf3R PWTM Body

    Perfect Normal Model - Perfectly proportioned head to toe, not skinny or thick, not short, every part very good (boobs, ass, arms, legs, hands, feet), the ideal body and model-like. Does not have to be pure white. Best examples: Go Mal-Sook, Anzu. Very rare.

    Far more girls are instead "almost PWM" body with somethign missing. For example Laurent and CAKD Winter who had "all natural" kgirl bodies with light curves. They are close to Perfect Normal model but without big boobs or ass. But they were still all natural model bodies, which I like. Kahotan below is an example where she mainly just needs bigger boobs and ass:
    https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPyRCqjk7hX/ Almost PNM body

    I do like big boobs, but is a low priority compared to all natural which has a slightly higher priority. So I'd rather have natural Bs like Leslie K and CAKD Winter over MM Cs for example. MM Ds I'll accept as long as they are good MMs. But natural Ds like Allie aka Mina or CAKD Rosie I do like the most, they're just rare. Allie is in PV currently.

    First two images attached are examples of Team Seven, Seb1nnn herself. Next two are Go Mal-Sook a perfectly proportioned PNM girl. Then Anzu, an even better example. MH Yua is kind of in-between the two. Then another example of Team Seven. Then a model who has Baby Peach's body type.

    There will be more girls with Team Seven and Perfect Normal Model bodies in the future but don't know the exact timeline. I've already reviewed them.
    Nice write up. I wonder if there is any room for some "post-nut clarity" that becomes obvious during a session for the average monger, or any other potential outliers to include in calculation. For me, comes down to if I want a service or looks type of session. Long or short. Some of these girls are all hype, which is very subjective, and that is certainly why having your own set of personal value rating system can be of use. Some mongers book the HHR simply to get the deed done and move on, while those who prefer some royal service opt for the HR and can still get gypped. I would argue you don't necessarily always deserve to leave satisfied, but really more relaxed than when you came in. Many ways to skin a cat!

  6. #52
    Baby Rose and next Baby Mury are two very good looking HYA options in OC imo, but for rich guys only. If you do a CTRL+F search for her on this page, it contains all a HYA Hunter needs to know. Again, for rich HYA Hunters only. For jgirl lovers, Saki J is finally in OC too. Yaya J aka Ria J is in LA.
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7421707 Yaya aka Ria
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7422256 Other LA HYA options

    Other S-Tier girls will come in future weeks, though not necessarily OC first. I've already reviewed them.

    What is Value?
    Value means getting more for your dollar. There is a crude formula I use to evaluate value. The rules are:

    1) Rank a girl in looks and service as usual. For example among ATFs, Jenny K is B-A (B looks A service), Peach is A-A, and peak Katie K is S-A. Everyone will score girls differently, these are just my ratings.

    2) Next, convert those scores into points. S=5, A=4, B=3, C=2, D=1.

    3) Value = (Looks + Service) / Cost. Multiply by 1000 and round to get an integer score. 10 = average kgirl, 15 = occasional repeat for me, 20+ = priority repeat. I call this the Value Rating. To make a consistent comparison, I main use hh rates with bb since that is the best way to cheaply see girls for 'just the main event'. I'm normally one-shot.

    Using the three examples from step 1, I get:
    Jenny K = B-A / 300 hh = (3+4)/300 = 23 points
    Peach = A-A / 420 hh = (4+4)/420 = 19 points
    Katie K = S-A / 350+150 hh = (5+4)/500 = 18 points

    This is pretty similar to my gut feelings. Peach and Katie are beautiful and I look forward to seeing them, but I feel like I could see Jenny K more often and cheap. For regular rotation, I see girls like Jenny K. If I want an occasional luxury, I see Peach and Katie K.

    Peach and Katie scored close to each other, and I felt it's true that Peach at 420 was similar value to peak Katie K at 500. But let's suppose Katie got tired and her service dropped a point or two, then she'd score 16 or 14 points in value and be more a backup option. She still scores much higher than the average kgirl who is 10 points (ex. D-C at 300 hh), which is why I repeated Katie. So this formula reflects how I naturally evaluate girls anyways.

    While it's true that the very best cheap girls are the best value, it's not true that other cheap girls are good value. A girl you like is always going to be better value than a dud, even if she costs more. A dud is roughly 10 points and under to me.

    What does value mean for us in practice? I noticed that every ATF is great for the first visit, but I only repeated certain ATFs all the time while rarely the others. The main reason was value. You could say that "first visit" I am strongly "looks first" but for repeats, I suddenly care about service and price and this combined concept of value. For guys on a very limited budget, I suspect they may even feel that way about first visits too. I repeated Peach and Katie K since they were ATFs, but it was harder to justify frequent repeats when there were good alternatives.

    Average Kgirl Value Rating
    Here is how a dud looks to me in value. I removed the names since it doesn't matter - we all encounter them and there is an endless supply of mid girls. The first girl didn't have looks and was new. A nice girl but didn't have much to offer:
    Dud = D-D / 300 hh = (1+1)/300 = 7 points
    Dud = C-C / 300+100 hh = (2+2)/400 = 10 points

    7 points falls short of the 10 point benchmark. I was in an adventurous mood so I didn't mind as much, but it made me less likely to toftt for a while. Sometimes I want a "sure thing", so my choice is either a high scoring ATF I already know or to try a well-reviewed HYA from reviewers I recognized. The C-C dud was a HYA to other guys and I believe them, she just wasn't my type and she wasn't in a great mood either when I saw her. I can see her appeal and other guys probably got a lot more than 10 points out of her since they reported good attitude. But the 100 upcharge with okay service/attitude made it barely worth seeing her for me. This is why I aim for B-Tier if I'm willing to see C-Tier, or I aim for A-Tier if I'm willing to see B-Tier.

    I don't deny that premium girls are overpriced from the POV of normal guys and normal budgets. They are for rich guys. But I also always say that duds are even more overpriced than premium girls, and this Value Rating is what I mean. Below D-Tier, I would not see them even for free. Not even if they paid me.

    It's worth pointing out that most guys enjoy the novelty of a new girl, so many guys are happy enough to see a C or B tier girl once even if they won't repeat them. Some of these girls go on the backup list, especially if they have something special about them. You could say that new girls get a 25% to 50% scoring bonus. This bonus by default lasts only the first visit. But if you have a special connection with a girl, the bonus actually lasts (until you lose that connection). It also exists for ATFs you haven't seen in a long time.

    With Nali gone, I listed the current top value imo to be FA Tomi (31 points), Allie (27 points), and Jenny K (23 points). I'm sure every guy has a different list, but this is one way to calculate it for yourself. Some girls show up in many guys' lists. Once I confirmed this formula matched what I already knew, I could then go back and test out many other girls I hadn't yet evaluated:
    Premium Kgirl M = S-A / 400+200 hh = (5+4)/600 = 15 points
    MH Cherry = S-S / 260+100 hh = (5+5)/360 = 27 points
    Aoi J = A-A / 300+100 hh = (4+4)/400 = 20 points

    The Mount Everest Problem
    Seeing premium kgirls the first time was satisfying for me and like climbing a tall mountain. But after seeing a hot premium HYA with good looks but not much service, many of us felt "That's it?". It's like reaching the top of Mount Everest and after a while you have nothing more to do and you just gotta leave. It is a "just one time" experience sometimes.

    That's where value comes in for decision making. Value matters more on repeats for many guys. I didn't mind mind paying extra for a hot girl just one time. It just makes it hard to repeat her if she feels overpriced. Premium kgirls sometimes feel like ~15 points in value like the S-A example. Teh exception is if you manage a special connection. This is the 25% to 50% bonus that persists (until you lose that connection), turning 15 points into maybe 23 points (+50% bonus). It's probably why some guys scored Kuzumi well below 15 points while others scored her way higher than 20, depending on the connection and vibe. The scoring is very ymmv with HYA for those reasons, and it's also why you can suddenly stop liking a HYA one day. It turns out, the looks and service alone were not the real reason you repeated her so much.

    MH Cherry otoh was high looks high service but priced like Nali. Her score lines up with how busy she got. Many people repeated her twice or three times in a week. Maybe I saw her five..

    GFE vs bb girls
    The Value formula lets us compare very different girls with each other. But it's still hard to compare GFE girls with bb girls. So I will just say there are some GFE girls who have good pussy so they are as good as bb girls to me. FA Sammy (Latina) for example loves to bang:
    FA Sammy = B-B / (3+3)/240 = 25 points GFE

    For GFE guys, of course the list shifts around a lot since they don't have to pay upcharge. And for rich guys, the Value list doesn't mean much - they can just combine the score and get a simpler 0-10 rating. We can call that Overall Rating. For me though, the Value list does predict who I want to repeat regularly. Currently, there are only 4 girls who regularly tour that score 20 or higher:
    FA Tomi 31 points
    Allie aka Mina 27 points
    Jenny K 23 points
    Aoi J 20 points

    I regret not seeing my retired ATF more when she was around. She scored 27, before even factoring our connection. At the time, I did not realize how special she was because I was 80% only seeing her anyways. I had no idea what a unicorn she was. Once I turned into a HYA Hunter, I understood in hindsight that she was even better than I thought, because after seeing a lot of girls I never found a girl with her service until MH Cherry.

    Value Rating Scale
    20+ points: priority repeat
    15-19 points: periodic repeat (mostly "luxury" girls)
    11-14 points: one and done but satisfied due to "new girl" bonus
    7-10: average kgirl (D-C or C-D girl)
    New girl: 25% to 50% bonus points, extended if you really connect with her

    Recent Price Hikes
    It is worth pointing out that before the very rapid price increases of the last 2 years, the average kgirl scored much higher. I used to consider 50% of kgirls to be good value. Now I consider only the top 25% of kgirls to be, due to excessive price hikes. To be clear, the last 2 years of price increases were higher than the previous 10 combined.

    This was not inflation, just a bigger profit margin and to attract new girls. In fact, Thai orgs like Khaleesi1999 and FirstAsians are two agencies that did not rapidly increase rates as exceptions. You can still see girls for 220-240 hh. Even corgs still charge 240 hh for starter girls. LA corgs in particular have better looking girls, both average and the best. So there is something for everyone depending on which agency you use.
    https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/Khaleesi1999 Thai girls
    https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/FirstAsians Kgirls

    Special Terminology
    What is Agehao?
    https://www.instagram.com/reel/DN_vdS5E3eU/ Agehao
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahegao

    What is very skinny?
    https://www.instagram.com/_jung_u/reel/DNtICTxXuWq/ JHJ
    https://www.instagram.com/_jung_u/reel/DPT1Os1Dx1b/ JHJ

    How to Prepare HYA Updated
    Sometimes, we only fit 1/3 of the way in a girl. This is a general thing even a 5" guy can run into. But every time with a girl I was 1/3 of the way in first visit, on repeats I could go all the way in because she was much more relaxed. Sometimes a much smaller guy can't fit a girl but even though I'm much bigger I could. This is a ymmv factor about arousal. I cover this in the guide "How to Prepare HYA".

    First, I prepare the girl by making her feel safe and comfortable. A few words, some good eye contact, gentle touching and watching her reaction. The first few minutes of introduction are key. In bed, I work on the foreplay. Same as a man, a woman gets aroused and it starts extra blood flow. The blood flow causes the vaginal walls to swell and expand..and doubles the depth on average. Every woman is aroused differently..

    A typical vagina starts at 2 to 4 inches depth, growing to 5 to 8 inches after arousal. Even men cannot get arousal when stressed or scared, so it pays to prepare the woman. You are the main beneficiary..if necessary let the girl show you her desired pace to start. Then take over when things look good. When changing position to doggy, start slow again the first several strokes. Once I learned and improved this, I got along with girls in bed.

    It bears repeating that I could fit girls that much smaller guys couldn't, but it takes a lot of work and patience. I didn't know how to do any of this when I started out, but 10 years later I started getting much better at it. The hardest barrier is psychological for the girl - if she doesn't feel confident or is stressed / worried, that is hard to overcome first visit. So there are a few girls I could not fit first visit but could easily fit 2nd visit because of the confidence / comfort change.

    Special Body Types
    I will be working on body type guides for a while. Three special body types I like and are "hard to find" are: Team Seven, Perfect White TOAS Model, and Perfect Normal Model. Some definitions:

    Team Seven - Very skinny and petite and short, but mainting perfect proportions. I.e. model proportions rather than a stocky midget. Best examples: Seb1nnn, Gingira Nanase, peak Bona, Tiana. Rare.
    https://www.instagram.com/p/DP8WzCWElW5 Team Seven Body

    Perfect White TOAS Model - Skinny, full MM tits, very skinny waist, white body, good ass, and "not short". Best examples: MH Nina, MH Cherry. Uncommon.
    https://www.instagram.com/reel/DNUiIe1yf3R PWTM Body

    Perfect Normal Model - Perfectly proportioned head to toe, not skinny or thick, not short, every part very good (boobs, ass, arms, legs, hands, feet), the ideal body and model-like. Does not have to be pure white. Best examples: Go Mal-Sook, Anzu. Very rare.

    Far more girls are instead "almost PWM" body with somethign missing. For example Laurent and CAKD Winter who had "all natural" kgirl bodies with light curves. They are close to Perfect Normal model but without big boobs or ass. But they were still all natural model bodies, which I like. Kahotan below is an example where she mainly just needs bigger boobs and ass:
    https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPyRCqjk7hX/ Almost PNM body

    I do like big boobs, but is a low priority compared to all natural which has a slightly higher priority. So I'd rather have natural Bs like Leslie K and CAKD Winter over MM Cs for example. MM Ds I'll accept as long as they are good MMs. But natural Ds like Allie aka Mina or CAKD Rosie I do like the most, they're just rare. Allie is in PV currently.

    First two images attached are examples of Team Seven, Seb1nnn herself. Next two are Go Mal-Sook a perfectly proportioned PNM girl. Then Anzu, an even better example. MH Yua is kind of in-between the two. Then another example of Team Seven. Then a model who has Baby Peach's body type.

    There will be more girls with Team Seven and Perfect Normal Model bodies in the future but don't know the exact timeline. I've already reviewed them.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Team Seven 2.jpg‎   Team Seven.jpg‎   GMS.jpg‎   GMS2.jpg‎   Anzu.jpg‎  

    Dou.png‎   Team Peach.jpg‎  

  7. #51
    I'm going to leave a copy of my Baby Winter PLEASER here. I heard Baby Rose has just under a week left so I'll attach her ad photo.

    Baby Winter Get9
    P: Ads based on her with usual PS, ad of her leaning against rail is closest. Face is PS'd up, but body is slightly better than ad.

    L: She is young, decent GND face, petite body with round C MM tits. A good spinner candidate. Her waist is skinny and her body is in great shape, it's her strong point. She's about 20s, body over face.

    E: A little English, not much talk, but understands body language and basic English if you use simple words and speak clearly.

    A: No typical kgirl vibe but good in bed. Takes some time to warm up but once you're into it she really loves it. She particularly loves the main act, few girls seemed as delighted with DATY and PIV. She seemed very genuine about that.

    S: She has good bbbj skills and went at it a long time with varied technique. Very good for HYA but not MILF level, bbbj is better than 90% of younger girls and one of the highlights. She really liked DATY and warmed up well. And she seems to really love dick. I follow a girl's reactions to figure out how she likes it. We could do everything well together and she loved it. This is her other highlight, she is good in bed.

    E: 320/ hhr.

    Are: Yes, she is good value. She does good long bbbj and loves everything we do in bed. I don't care that she can't communicate a lot or is low vibe, once I got to know her we got along very well.

    https://get9irl.com/BabyWinter Baby Winter

    It should be automatically clear to everyone, but Baby Winter has no relation to CAKD Winter. Names get re-used all the time.

    PLEASER Reviews
    PLEASERs are a great review format because it reminds people to talk about each point. It's more natural for beginners to read, and a good way for beginners to review. If you follow the PLEASER format, it's almost foolproof and no one can complain. Even Veterans like the straightforward nature of the format, and it prevents writer's block.

    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...R-Reviews-only PLEASERs go in this thread - no replies allowed
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...-review-forum) Replies go in this thread - hit reply and copy it

    Description Blocks
    The reason I write description blocks is it's more intel dense for listing out many girls. It increases accuracy overall and is more suitable for veterans to convey information to other veterans. Concise descriptions let people focus on and pick over the most critical specs and pros and cons. It cuts out any ymmv narrative. Just one or two words says a lot. For example, I'm always deliberate when choosing between these 5 values for skinny vs thick: very skinny, skinny, normal, thick, very thick. They each mean something different and I feel this scale avoids the most confusion. Baby Eve and Yiseo are examples of very skinny. Skinny/thick is a spec people agree on mentally, but communicating it into the right words is the critical part. Worst case, we can use photo guides.

    Looks is a more ymmv spec where you are going to get a bell curve and normal disagreement. It is important to split looks by face, body, and boobs since they often have no relation to each other. I used to have people say they didn't like a girl, and when I asked "Wasn't her face beautiful?" they said yes but she had no boobs. I like boobs, but they are so low priority compared to face for me. So this is why we have to split up the ratings into parts. Face is the most ymmv part.

    Of course, service is the most ymmv by far. But if you split service into skills, performance in bed, vibe, and attitude, you get more agreement. Evian is an example where people who didn't like her service actually agreed she had skills and was good in bed. Their opinion on skill and performance was basically the same as the people who liked her - when people who like and dislike and agree on something, it's a pretty sure thing. You just couldn't tell this info from their review though, because if something sucks the review will focus on that. Here is the most critical distinction. Without doubt, that guy did not like the girl and shouldn't feel otherwise just because he agrees she had good skill and performance. But when it comes to helping other people decide on a girl, that is useful info we don't want to lose.

    Young Girls
    Attached are the closest ad photos for Baby Winter and Baby Rose. Baby Winter's appeal is her young spinner body, bbbj skill, and love of dick. Baby Rose's appeal is her beautiful face, body, pussy, ass. I'd book Baby Rose hh if you are going to go, you have to bring the service. Baby Rose is a high looks HYA and she looks a bit better than her ad especially her body. People who liked Baby Mury would probably like her and vice versa. People who didn't maybe wouldn't.

    There are many high looks HYA where it is just as important to scare away service hunters than to invite HYA hunters. I get it, we all want to explore. So some service hunters are naturally curious and want to "try one out". But in that case, better to try a high service HYA like Baby Arin or Baby Peach. Maybe they can be won over. Or if the service hunter is still disappointed, we know it's hopeless for him and he needs to stick with service queens. It is too risky for service hunters to randomly try a medium or lower service HYA.

    Be warned of trying HYA. Several long-time service hunters tried out HYA and had a profound change. They looked down at their hands and they were the same, but the felt different forever. A few of them did become HYA Hunters and experienced HYA Hunter Ascension. It is very expensive.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Baby Winter.jpg‎   Baby Rose.jpg‎  

  8. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by DownloadX  [View Original Post]
    At FA, FA Tomi is in OC, with Star (Latina) listed last day Friday
    Has anyone found any intel on Star yet? Some were positing she may be on Sammy level of looks, or perhaps even Isabella (based on photos, which we all know may or may not be super accurate). Any word on her looks (or service) tier as of yet? I'm sure guys in LA and SD (where she may be headed next) would like to know.

  9. #49
    At FA, FA Tomi is in OC, with Star (Latina) listed last day Friday and Dallas back on Monday. Shelby is also back. Schedules can change a lot but are useful hints. FA's strength is they have by far the cheapest base rates. Tomi and Dallas are tagged VIP, which means 30 min for 240, 45 min for 280, 60 min for 320. It's 50 for bb, which makes it 290 bb for hh. For other girls, it's 20 less (220/260/300).

    At CAKD, Lauryn's last day is listed as 10/20. Amy (Viet) is still at CAKD, Harper on vacation. Lauryn doesn't tour very long and feels like a natural civilian hookup. Keep in mind she is GFE only and a higher rate. Aoi J is a favorite for me since I like jgirls. People generally like her body and sweet vibe as her main attraction.

    FA Tomi - High looks and high service, ATF. Tomi is skinny, C or D MMs, about 5'3", tanned, and has an amazing well-toned body like a stripper. Petite TOAS body type (TOAS = tits on a stick). She has very good bbbj skills and can go long, and she really enjoys sex, good pussy. Good long bbbj, enjoy sex, good pussy. Her pussy is S-Tier, one of the few available. Quirky personality and easy to laugh, her English is very good. OG kgirl service, Legendary kgirl. If you vibe with her, it is next level fun. She is currently the best value girl imo.

    https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/TokyoGirls FA (FirstAsians)

    Tomi has often said she is not a morning person, so I try to skip 10am and try 11am or after on her suggestion. She has always been in a good mood with me, but I've heard others say it is ymmv. I tend to go with the flow so maybe that helps. To me, Tomi is the best value bb kgirl in Socal. Value = (looks + service) / price. Allie in LA and Jenny K (on vacation) being 2nd and 3rd:

    Quote Originally Posted by Download X  [View Original Post]
    Budget Value
    Many guys are on a budget, so I will list three top budget / value girls in order..With Nali gone, the list is FA Tomi (OC), Allie (LA), and Jenny K (when she comes back). That's it. There are other girls I like a bit more, but they are a lot more expensive.
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...29#post7413429 Budget Value BB Guide

    Baby Peach - HYA. High looks and service. Cute face like a doll, baby face, 20s, about 5'4", C or D MMs, wide hips and ass, white skin, beautiful black hair with curls, smells good, good looking overall. Professional kgirl vibe, good skills and service. Lots of tongue play. I really like her face but there are varied opinions. Some say she has a plastic look with upgrades. Normally I prefer all natural, but she checks a lot of other boxes for me so I like her looks overall. Ad photos give some idea of her body type. Important: Book Peach hh only. She has high performance, but like Evian it may be hard to vibe after.

    Baby Peach is the only girl left from my August guide which lists out girls who had both looks and service. In order, the list was MH Cherry, Baby Peach, Allie, and Jenny K:

    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7361901 High Looks High Service Guide

    Baby Mury (Get9, CGLA) - HYA+. Baby Mury is cute and beautiful head to toe, early 20s, 5'4", C tits, normal skinny, petite and well proportioned, body has some curves, with a young cute thin face. Good looking head to toe. Low S-Tier looks. She has a very high tier pussy, good skills for a HYA, has a relaxing attitude, and knows her job. Her pussy even looks great too. Vocal feedback is natural and subdued which I prefer. She has a very sweet and unique vibe. Some English, no problem understanding basic conversation but needs time to respond. A princess.

    Baby Mury has a young vibe, much like Lizza, Purple K, and even Baby Arin. Some guys are "young vibe hunters" and may like her for that. While others may be turned off by it. I am in the "young vibe hunter" camp so if that is not your thing you'll probably like her less than me.

    Vibe and style of service are two common service dealbreakers for HYA Hunters. It divides HYA Hunters into distinct camps. For example, Lizza and Purple K have a "normal girl" vibe which some guys love and other guys hate. Whereas Baby Arin and Baby Peach are pros who are safer recs with broader appeal. That said, Baby Mury has pretty good skills for HYA and performs well in bed. These are the Skill and Performance aspects to Service. With Vibe and service Style being two others. We could see with Kuzumi's reviews the perfect example of everything coming down to Vibe. Guys mostly agreed on the rest with face being her strong point. To sum up, Vibe is how a girl talks and behaves with you apart from the main performance.

    Baby Naye - Tiny spinner at 5'1", C or D cup MMs, white skin, thin waist, small hands and feet, good pussy, enjoys sex. Very cute. Good in many positions, good attitude. Long dark brown hair with curls. Cute vibe, very nice smile, I agree she is like a maid cafe girl. Same inner-eye highlights as Laurent (hope more girls try it). Service style is submissive. Very DTF. She has improved since last year in looks and skill, has a high tier pussy.

    It's nice to see Baby Naye has some fans. She is a cute and tiny spinner with a sweet smile. She is submissive style of service which I like, but it's an important warning since some service guys consider that a dealbreaker. Her looks and style have upgraded a lot since previous tours.

    Amy (CAKD) - Beautiful exotic face, hourglass body, tits and ass, C or D MMs, tanned, freestyle service rather than kgirl routine, knows how to have fun. Good suction on bbbj, active and aggressive, sex positive. Has a balance of looks and service but different vibe than other girls. Being respectful goes a long way to having fun. GFE but ymmv. Very firm massage. Very unique ymmv vibe. Important: active and aggressive as mentioned, not for guys who want gentle and passive. She is slimmer now. S-Tier face.

    Amy's looks have broad appeal, and with her slimmer look that has only improved.

    CAKD Lauryn - Exotic mixed beauty, wonderful smile, submissive, still learning. 5'6", skinny with some hips, B or C cup MMs, feminine, long hair with some curls, about 30, pear shaped body, some English. Good attitude, nice personality, seems new. Looks over service, seems to enjoy all we did. She is quite beautiful with a hint of mature looks, same as Amy. She has model level looks and style. She had the #1 best smile until MH Yua showed up. It is still a top tier smile. Excellent choice of music, more girls should choose well. "Her smile is what all men wish to see."

    Lauryn has an exotic mixed look with a hint of mature. A very classy girl and unique specs. Her type is rare so that could make her a higher priority for some guys.

    CAKD Aoi J - Skinny, C cup tits natural, maybe 5'4", great body, good face, late 20s, long straight black hair. Body is her strong point. Good ass for an Asian, has a trimmed bush, pussy is good. Bbbj is good for HYA, good attitude and sweet voice. Elegant face, good figure. I like her all natural look and prefer skinny. Body is her strong point. Sweet demeaner after sex, very cute and expressive while vibing. Sometimes playfully teases you. Superior vibe to most jgirls. Would repeat. She is 350 hr, 100 bb.

    She outlasted a lot of other jgirls, so I guess she has fans. She is special and is also a rare spec combo which makes her ATF for me.

    https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/IndyAzn CAKD
    https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/KCupids CAKD

    All of the above girls are top 20% looks to me (mid B-Tier or higher). There were other girls like Scarlett who I had a good time with and even had a nice face, but I'm trying to only list the top 20% looking girls this time to play it safe. About age, FA Tomi is a MILF but the best looking MILF I know, I would choose her over many HYA. She keeps her body in good shape. Amy and Lauryn have a hint of mature so we can either say pre-MILF or borderline HYA / pre-MILF. They are beautiful so it makes no difference to me and I'd also choose them over many HYA. But it's worth mentioning since some guys are young themselves or have specific tastes and age cutoffs. The goal of reviews is to increase every guys' chance of picking a good match.

    I also tried to rank the above girls in order of pussy, but actually all of them are very good currently. FA Tomi, Baby Naye, and Baby Mury being especially good. Aoi is very tight, which is going to depend on the guy. Amy in particular has no trouble taking bigger guys.

    Attached Photos
    I'm going to attach photos in order of how close they get to the girl. First photo of a tanned skinny girl on her knees looks super close to Aoi J's body. It is 95% close. Second photo is a new Baby Peach ad which gives a good idea of her. 90% close. Next is a model who looks a lot like Baby Mury in face and body type. Of course, it is not her and if you see this photo used for a different girl's ad it's not that girl either. People reay too much into ad photos when they are often copied off Instagram. Next is Baby Mury's ad and it is close to her if she were to do full make up. It's 85% close. Next is an ad from FA Tomi which gives the right idea - it is accurate except Tomi looks better than the ad photo imo. Last is an alteranate old ad for Baby Naye, which doesn't quite look like her but gives the right idea of young cute spinner. Naye also looks better than this alternate ad imo.

    I've seen some girls like Aoi J several times and face is going to vary by level of make up and how much sleep they got. It's always face variation, the body doesn't change much between visits. To use Krissy as an example, I've seen make up, sleep, and sweat vary her appearance on repeats. To where I saw her with C-Tier, B-Tier, and A-Tier face (B being the most common). If I only saw either girl just one time, obviously all I can report is what I saw. It's one reason I have not yet ranked some HYA in my full rankings, because they seemed to have an off day and it showed. So I need to repeat them again. Or in another case, I haven't seen her in a very long time. Many girls like Amy or Naye changed by 1 whole tier in a year.

    Most kgirls do NOT look as good or even near their ad photos btw. It's just that if I list girls near A looks, they'll tend to be at ad photo level. D-Tier girls will use A-Tier ads of course. People really still don't get it so I'll repeat it once again: D-Tier girls will use A-Tier ads of course! Be warned.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails AT 01.jpg‎   Baby Peach 016.png‎   Lookslike Mury.jpg‎   Baby Mury 02.jpg‎   Kiko Tomi.jpg‎  

    Baby Naye.jpg‎  

  10. #48
    Baby Mury (Get9, CGLA) - HYA+. Baby Mury is cute and beautiful head to toe, early 20s, 5'4", C tits, normal skinny, petite and well proportioned, body has some curves, with a young cute thin face. Good looking head to toe. Low S-Tier looks. She has a very high tier pussy, good skills for a HYA, has a relaxing attitude, and knows her job. Her pussy even looks great too. Vocal feedback is natural and subdued which I prefer. She has a very sweet and unique vibe. Some English, no problem understanding basic conversation but needs time to respond.

    It's up to taste, but among kgirls I rank Baby Mury in-between Katie K and Daisy in looks. Her strong point is a young and cute face. Guys who prefer a more mature or sexy face would probably rate Katie K or Daisy higher. Her body type is normal skinny and petite, which I also prefer. She wore a very nice fitting bikini to greet me. For guys on a budget who want a taste, the best value is 400 hh. I could get everything done for one-shot within hh. Baby Mury scores very high in looks and pussy, and for a HYA she has great service.

    Three levels of HYA
    Since Baby Mury looks under 25 and is low S-Tier, she is HYA+ to me. This only has special meaning to guys who want extra young and high tier youthful looks. To normal HYA Hunters, it's no different than regular HYA which is mainly a code word for "not a MILF or even close". HYA+ are 15-20 years away from MILF town. Whereas regular HYA are 10-15 years away, not much different.

    The strict cutoff for regular HYA is under 30 and A-Tier (ex: Kuzumi J, Lizza, Baby Peach), with a more lenient borderline HYA being under 34 and B-Tier (ex: Jenny K, Krissy, Tiana). To me, the lenient HYA definition is always acceptable but since opinions always vary this makes the strict HYA cutoff an easier rec to HYA hunters. Plenty of HYA Hunters like Jenny or Krissy, it's just less likely than the main HYA list.

    Where is MILF Town
    BTW if you do want MILF town where the HAM (Hot Asian Moms) are, see Baby Hami or MH No1 Remi. For true mother lovers, Baby Hami is on full repeat for me for "something different" to refresh my service needs, after one too many HYA gave me weak service. And to be clear, these are MILFs who are simply better looking than many young girls. Hami is exceptionally good looking for her age and was probably S-Tier when younger. Her service gives her a high overall score.

    Shelby FA (FirstAsians aka HX TokyoGirls) - Tall at about 5'7", huge DD tits, late 30s. She has a great womanly body, has tits and ass and really gets into it. Experienced, good thorough bbbj technique edge of bed. Bbbj skilled, fantastic P2P, tight pussy. Really good English, personality is as much native as Korean. Blonde hair when I saw her. She is a good GFE choice.
    https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/TokyoGirls

    Shelby has a next level pussy and even with GFE is better than many girls bb. She is DTF.

    Baby Rose is another HYA option. Dallas and Shelby fans should know they are back to OC 10/14. They are listed as VIP for FA which simply means the rate is 30 min for 240, 45 min for 280, 60 min for 320. It is one of the cheapest base korg rates anywhere. I assume Dallas is 50 bb upcharge, which would be 290 total. FA also hosts latina Star who is new. FA is the goto korg for Latinas in OC. XO will sometimes host them too. Tifa is back in town 10/14 if you want a hot MILF.

    Scroll down to see more descriptions on girls like CAKD Amy, CAKD Aoi J, Get9 Baby Naye, Get9 Scarlett, and more.

    Attached are ads for Baby Mury, Baby Rose, Shelby, and Dallas.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Baby Mury.jpg‎   Baby Rose.jpg‎   Shelby.jpg‎   Dallas.jpg‎  

  11. #47
    This is a guide copy from the 10/7 LA update:
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7410111

    Top 20% "Looks only" Rankings
    S-Tier: MH Yua, FA Isabella, MH Nina, Yua Japan, FA Jira, Gingira Nanase, (Sakura Le Sserrafim), Laurent, Baby Sugar, Katie K, MH Mitsuki aka BB Asuka, SBC Daisy, SBC Freesia, Etsuko aka MH Cherry

    A-Tier: Lizza aka Baby Dalli, Winter aka Seven, SC Emily, Kuzumi J, Hanni, MH Lily, CAKD Melody aka NYCSE Marin, Baby Peach, Nara, FA Claudia, CAKD Yua, Chanel2, Aoi J, Elsa aka MH Ella, Baby Ayaka, CAKD Drea, Nakamura, Mido, MH Juliya, CAKD Amy Viet, Purple K aka Tiara, Kiko aka Tomi aka Gigi, Yulie, 2025 Ichika Nagano, Leslie K, Minji, Allie, Baby Arin, MH Yan Jia (No2), CAKD Minami, Baby Hami

    B-Tier: June, Baby Mint, Haven, Megan, Baby Blue, Baby Evian, Daniel, Swan, Elsa aka MH Ella, SDAG Cherry, Jenny K, Krissy, Apink, Monet, Yiseo, FA Sammy, Sia aka Prada, SDAG Mari aka Namiko aka AG Mari, Baby Naye

    If you like kgirls instead of jgirls, just take every jgirl on my list and drop them 1/2 tier. There are clear exceptions like MH Cherry and Kuzumi J who had broad appeal.

    My personal taste will boost girls who have these traits: Young, cute, beautiful, skinny, white skin, toned (muscle vs fat), petite, jgirl style, nice tits, nice ass, natural, good ass to hip ratio, beautiful pussy. In this order. This is beyond an average guy's taste, meaning it is an extra adjustment - most guys like young, but I prefer it more than the average guy. Many guys do not particularly value cute, many prefer sexy for example.

    To use Baby Blue for an example, she is young, cute, white skin, jgirl style, natural, nice ass. She is not skinny or petite. Her giant ass gets a double bonus. So the result is high B-Tier, but I understand many other guys might rate her C if they don't care for half the things I liked. Way lower if they hate thick girls which is a very common dealbreaker. I don't mind thick, I simply favor very skinny.

    Some girls like Jira and Gingira Nanase score very high because they check 11 out of 12 boxes (both girls are Team Seven body type). I have posted many photos of Nanase so it is clear enough how she looks (Jira is 90% similar). The nice thing is if you read either girl's description block, you can then adjust their tier by identifying which of the 11 out of 12 specs you don't care about and estimate her tier "for you". Examples of Team Seven:
    https://www.instagram.com/seb1nnn/?hl=en Team Seven S-Tier
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7397581 Gingira Nanase Review
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/atta...0&d=1758393079 Gingira Nanase photo

    A few girls I've seen but don't appear in rankings either because it's been too long (ex. Ericka) or I need to repeat them more times before I rate them. I've noted that girls like Haven and Jenny have the Nali Effect where once they make sweet love to you, you find the more attractive than they were every visit. Since that is so ymmv and relies on repeats, "looks only" ignores that growth factor. So in my scale, "looks only" is a different thing than "attractiveness" which is much more ymmv.

    I'll attach some face guides. First is Eunha (S-Tier), who has same face type as Katie K (S-Tier). Next is Yeji and Minji. Next is a singer and model who has both the same face and body type as Aoi J. Then Bomi who resembles Winter. Then Hanaraki Mai who has same face type as Misaki J. And Su Hyun and Baby Blue. Then Sasaki Saki (S-Tier) who has the same face type as CAKD Melody (A-Tier). Next image is Tzyuyu (S-Tier), who has the same face type as Baby Hami (A-Tier).

    It's true that many of the model photos like Eunha are slightly hotter than their matching girl (Katie K), but they're usually on the same general level. Not a big difference. Of course, Eunha is dyed hair while Katie K is black. As a rule, I won't use a photo model if the gap is more than 1 tier. Naturally, all of this depends on make up and style that day, or if they had a good sleep.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Eunha.jpg‎   ITZY-YeJi.jpg‎   AT.jpg‎   Apink_Bomi_APink.jpg‎   Hanaraki Mai.jpg‎  

    Su-Hyun-AKMU-P1.jpg‎   Sasaki Saki.jpg‎   Tzyuyu.jpg‎  

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    CAKD Amy - Beautiful exotic face, hourglass body, tits and ass, a big ass, C or D MMs, tanned, freestyle service rather than kgirl routine, knows how to have fun. Good suction on bbbj, active and aggressive, sex positive. Has a balance of looks and service but different vibe than other girls. Being respectful goes a long way to having fun. GFE but ymmv. Very firm massage. Very unique ymmv vibe. Important: active and aggressive as mentioned, not for guys who want gentle and passive. She is slimmer now. S-Tier face.

    CAKD Aoi J - Skinny, C cup tits natural, maybe 5'4", great body, good face, late 20s, long straight black hair. Body is her strong point. Good ass for an Asian, has a trimmed bush, pussy is good. Bbbj is good for HYA, good attitude and sweet voice. Elegant face, good figure. I like her all natural look and prefer skinny. Body is her strong point. Sweet demeaner after sex, very cute and expressive while vibing. Sometimes playfully teases you. Superior vibe to most jgirls, "wife style service". Would repeat. She is 350 hr, 100 bb.

    Get9 Baby Naye - Tiny spinner at 5'1", C or D cup MMs, white skin, thin waist, small hands and feet, good pussy, enjoys sex. Very cute. Good in many positions, good attitude. Long dark brown hair with curls. Cute vibe, very nice smile, I agree she is like a maid cafe girl. Same inner-eye highlights as Laurent (hope more girls try it). Service style is submissive. Very DTF. She has improved since last year in looks and skill, has a high tier pussy.

    CAKD Lauryn - Exotic mixed beauty, wonderful smile, submissive, still learning. 5'6", skinny with some hips, B or C cup MMs, feminine, long hair with some curls, about 30, pear shaped body, some English. Good attitude, nice personality, seems new. Looks over service, seems to enjoy all we did. She is quite beautiful with a hint of mature looks, same as Amy. She has model level looks and style. She had the #1 best smile until MH Yua showed up. It is still a top tier smile. Excellent choice of music, more girls should choose well. "Her smile is what all men wish to see."

    FA Eve - tall at 5'7", tanned, thick and meaty, dtf, she will fuck back a lot. 20s, B or C cup tits, GND face, waist reminds me of Baby Blue. Good attitude, newish, enjoys sex.

    Get9 Scarlett - Service queen MILF, she still has her looks. Very good face, C or D MMs a bit hard, petite, skilled, loves sex. Good BBBJ skills, in my journal I wrote and I quote "no teeth for miles". Pound town. Sweet girl, easy to vibe with decent English. Ad photos based on her, not far off especially the face. A service hunter will probably describe her better than me.

    CAKD Misaka J - Late 20s, pure white body, natural B or C, 5'4", womanly body, good pussy, all natural. Strong point has good pussy that gets wet naturally. Full body, GND face, ad photo based on her with usual PS. Seems to enjoy sex, no problem taking dick just start slow as usual. Good if you like all natural look with pure white body. No real vibe.

    For looks, there is also Harper. For service, Maru and Allie DD. For body, new Daisy. Erica is back soon, she is the most similar girl in body to Allie aka Mina no that Allie is gone. Some other options like Jenny K and Avani K are on vacation.

    LA Options
    MH Lily (No3) - Good face and body, about 20, 5'5", C cup MMs, whitish skin with light tan, good ass, great figure with curves. Light bush, good pussy, enjoys foreplay, daty, and sex. Lots of tongue play. She has a cute vibe but also newish. She puts in the effort, but she is still learning skills especially bbbj. Sometimes playful, cooperative and a nice smile. Good in bed if you help out.

    Minji - Nice young body, good face, petite, dark skin, sharp tan line, late 20s, nice MMs. Some resemblance to Yeji's face but darker skin tone and wider nose, softer face line. Knows how to ride but passive otherwise. Bring your own service and take the lead. Little English. Hard to say if you will vibe, typical HYA as far as that.

    Baby Hami - HAM (Hot Asian Mom). High service and high looks, OG kgirl service. 5'6", D MMs, beautiful HAM face, high tier body that could pass as 20s from some angles, white skin with light tan line, good figure, some ass, takes dick well. Pleaser with good attitude, not much of a talker, good feedback, occasional hot eye contact. Good after service and massage. A looks A service, as good looking as some HYA due to her nice body.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUXyCXUko9g&t=66s Mother Lover

    You can also search my mentions of Baby Arin, Prada, Kiwi, Viviana, and Akari J. Baby Arin is HYA but LA is starting to actually review HYA again so hopefully they eventually stop repeating her and Love Q so we have a turn someday. Baby Joo is back again. MH Lily is maybe an even nicer looking version of Baby Joo, but I welcome others to chime in.

    Future Latina Options
    Someday, one of these two Latinas may show up suddenly at FirstAsians. FA Isabella is better looking than every single kgirl by my standards, even though I normally prefer Asians. She ranks just under model Go Mal-Sook in looks and is head to toe wonderful. Isabella also has good service for a Latina, she puts me at ease and is a pleaser. So when she is back, I might not even mention it. She only works for FirstAsians and BLUE (Blue Rocket), so not to be confused with the 15 other Isabellas in Socal.

    FA Isabella - HYL. Maximum S-Tier looks. Very beautiful head to toe. Strictly GFE. European looks, late 20s. Skinny overall with natural Bs and a great ass Asians can only dream of. Even a BBL can't match Isabella's ass, it actually feels better than it looks so hold on tight. Limited English but always a sweet smile. Very good attitude and effort, enjoys it all.

    FA Claudia (Latina) HYL. A-Tier looks, still learning bbbj but knows how to bang. 20s, C MMs, very nice face, very nice full round ass, good figure, hair dyed blonde. Ass jiggles plenty during doggy, it is beautiful. GFE only, young vibe. Some skills. Good visuals with bbbj, have her sit in front of the mirror for the best view. Lots of LFK. Face is very nice to look at, like Sarah Michelle Gellar from Buffy in the later seasons. Decent English, good attitude.

    SD Options
    Eventually, I'm sure Kiko will be back SD. When she is, I might not have time for rosters so here is her description in advance:

    BLUE Kiko - Skinny, D MMs, tanned, amazing body like a stripper, TOAS. Good long bbbj, enjoy sex, good pussy. Quirky personality, decent English. Loved everything I did and I could go to town. Good looks and performance. OG kgirl service, Legendary kgirl. Kiko has a magic pussy, look for Kiko in this ass guide:
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?33105-Hot-Young-Asian-Girls-in-OC&p=7344128&viewfull=1#post7344128 Biggest Asses in Town

    Sammy (Latina) - Fantastic S-Tier body. Body over face, C or D MMs, tits and ass. The very best ass, tight and well-toned body. Better body than most strippers. A bit short, maybe 5'3", tanned. Fun and playful. New ad photos now. Her face has improved a lot lately. No shower preview as with most Latinas. Strictly GFE only. Not much kissing, sex is good and she loves to bang. The hh rate is amazing value imo if you want a good bang, her ass is next level. Limited English. She is a sweet girl.

    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7402051 "Looks Only" and "Face Only" Rankings
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7389052 The Lizza Guide and other tips
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7401753 Legends collection
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7402534 Final Legends

    The Lone HYA Hunters
    I said goodbye forever to my first ATF long ago. I was lost and ended up making rosters as a way to cope. Perhaps to find my next true ATF. It was hard on my body interviewing one HYA candidate after another, but don't worry I'm alright.

    The Ultimate Kindness
    My first ATF warned me long in advance that she would retire. That is when I started roaming the lands, curious if there was any other girl who could match her. In a way, there never was. But apart from how much I liked her, she did give me The Ultimate Kindness. It was the same true gift that many Nali and MH Cherry fans privately got. A sincere goodbye forever from her heart.

    I never forgot. That is why I became a wanderer, and after meeting SC Emily I even experienced HYA Hunter Ascension in the process. My hands looked the same as before, but now I feel different for the rest of my life. And for the better - my eyes are always open during appointments. There are many such HYA Hunters now. The quality of girls has shifted as high service girls retire without being replaced. But some replacements do have high looks at least. There is no stopping that shift in my opinion.

    A Phoenix Reborn
    One day, a maximum S-Tier kgirl will appear like a phoenix reborn. The process is HYA+ Ascension, the "looks only" version of Dragon Ascension. Service hunters will roll their eyes, but HYA hunters will hop in their cars when word spreads.

    I have only met one jgirl who was worth a full 600 hr premium for her looks, though a second jgirl came close. A few kgirls may be worth 500 hr at most, which is why I recommended SBC Daisy at 450 hh for those on the fence to try out. But next year that may change as new girls show up.

    The Resistance
    What is the Resistance? Well, anyone can join the Resistance instantly. They are those who rebel against ad inaccuracy and choose to rely on intel instead. Intel is the true lighthouse which prevents great explorers from getting shipwrecked. The other tool being to walk at the door aka "abandon ship". It is less pleasant, but a last resort.

    The Dark Minefield
    I've known many looks first people who did a pilgrimage of recommended girls based on rosters. Since they carefully chose girls that were a good match, they had a lot of fun and it was just one success after another. But when that list ran out and they started seeing girls blind, it was much harder. It is a dark minefield. For that reason, please review. Don't worry about what others say, a variety of opinions is normal and helpful.

    Mapmakers Needed
    The only solution is useful intel. I focus on rating face, body, boobs, height, skintone, hair, body versus face, looks versus service, and strengths vs dealbreakers. Then comment about ass or tattoos as necessary. These specs are a map to help new explorers navigate dangerous waters without getting shipwrecked. When they have good adventures and survive unscathed, they can update the maps.

    Attached is actress SMG from Buffy, the closest version of her that matches Claudia. It was close enough I felt like I was banging SMG when looking at her at the right angle. Also attached are images showing the Dark Minefield mapped out by the Mapmakers. Intel plus match making leads to smooth sailing. Also attached is a meme for pre-MILFs with both good looks and good service.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails SMG Claudia.jpg‎   The Dark Minefield 2.jpg‎   Balanced.jpg‎  

  13. #45

    Good to know it's an option to use. Not abuse.

    Quote Originally Posted by DownloadX  [View Original Post]
    Walking
    One last tip is if you are worried about a big gap between the actual girl versus her ad photo (or that she is old rather than young), some people communicate first with their booker. They ask if they can walk / cancel if "the girl is old" or "the girl doesn't look good like her ad" - since that is their make or break criteria. I wouldn't do this often, but it is one way. It is certainly a better alternative than a guy getting burned once too often and quitting. Your main chance is at the door - if you strongly feel it's not going to work out, let the girl know you're leaving and then text the booker. Some friends do this once or twice a year, I wouldn't rely on it often.

    These rules are about ensuring some level of fairness while making sure a guy isn't forced to see a girl he clearly is not going to like.
    Should be rare, especially with advanced screening.

    But good to know it's an option.

  14. #44
    If you just want my notes on OC girls, skip to the bottom of the next post where it has tips about Kuzumi J, Love Q, Yi-Seo, Akari J, Allie DD, Terra, Hami, Peach, and Tomi. Aoi J is in OC now too, she is skinny and petite with nice natural tits. Use CTRL+F.

    I've said before that I review girls because I feel sorry for other guys. So really, once I post accurate intel I don't actually care if you believe me or not.

    Even though I leave accurate hints, I hope not too many people believe them. It's literally better if half the people don't believe me, and then the other half who are the best and smartest will be able to book the girl easily. And I've said before I also need to scare away disappointed guys, saving them money too. Then she won't get overworked and tired, and guys who do see her get what I got. She'll even rotate to other cities and give other people a turn.

    Kuzumi J
    So I'm just going to say now, here are three accurate reviews on Kuzumi J aka Ai. She has improved her service since last tour, but the description is essentially the same. The first post combines the three reviews and sums it up. It is perfectly normal for three people to have different conclusions about a girl, even though they are clearly describing the same girl and actually agree on a lot:
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7283436 Ai
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...58#post7280958 Ai
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...18#post7283318 Ai

    The reason is simple. Some girls are "hot but that is not the problem". I might consider a submissive hot girl to be good service because she and I get along great in bed. But another guy hates her service because she doesn't smile at him, say nice things, or make him feel special. Both are the same girl, but each guy is looking for something different so they are going to have opposite conclusions. Therefore, each guy has to know what he wants in order to predict if he'll like a looks over service girl. She is very much a looks over service girl.

    Know what you want
    That is the key predictor if you will like Kuzumi K or not. Boner chimed in when she was Ai, and he and I agree with Superman's review because we are looks first and bring service. We are fine if the girl doesn't have a special vibe outside of bed. Another example of this is Baby Evian, where Boner rated her S-Tier service and I 100% agree. To me, she is the 2nd best kgirl service out of 180 kgirls. But other guys were very disappointed and ranked her at the bottom. They even agreed Evian's performance in bed was very good, just that she had no vibe, didn't talk, and didn't make them feel good and special. In other words, those guys are looking for something Evian didn't have, while me and Boner were looking for something that Evian did very well. I hope that's clear, we all agree on the girl's description but have opposite conclusions and wants. This magic point of division can be called Vibe.

    Vibe
    Vibe - Positive feelings and special connection. Her genuine smile, nice words, how she makes us feel special. Your interaction with a girl not related to bed skills or performance.

    Haven has amazing Vibe, and it's why I rate her high service. When I rate "looks only", I put Haven at high B-Tier because there are girls who do look slightly better if you are just looking at them without any interaction. However, Haven's service and attitude makes her more attractive. The moment I walked in, she looked at me like I was wanted and it was striking. She was very fun to talk with, it felt natural. We had a special connection. That is Vibe, and it is a magic part of service.

    Jenny also has a high tier vibe, same as Haven. This makes them more attractive then they visually are. It explains why my "looks only" rankings are not enough for some guys. "Looks only" is nearly objective (i.e. staring at a photo of a girl), in contrast to attractiveness which is extremely subjective (i.e. interacting with a girl and seeing how much she wants you). So even though I put Jenny and Haven both as B-Tier "looks only", they are more attractive than that. But it's so objective, so I can't rank based on attractiveness instead.

    This is the reason some guys do not find S-Tier and A-Tier girls attractive, even though they simultaneously agree the girl does look good when "just staring at her". Those are different things, and "Trophy fuck" is a common way to put it. Yes, the girls are "hot but that is not the problem". You can basically say that true attraction is the "looks only" rating modified by Vibe.

    The reason I liked Evian when others didn't is that even though I care about Vibe, it is not a dealbreaker for me. Same with tits or ass. For example if a girl has an S-Tier face, I don't care about her vibe, tits, or ass. It's easily forgiven. But other guys will not forgive if the vibe isn't there. This is why Boner and I both gave Evian S-Tier service ratings, while other guys give her F-Tier service rating. There is no contradiction, that is how subjective service is.

    Since Vibe is so subjective and the difference between an S and an F, it's why all I can do is warn guys about a possibility rather than predict it.

    The biggest components of Service are Performance, Skill, and Vibe. Performance means how good we get along in bed, so that excludes everything that happens before or after. I highly value performance, then vibe, with skill last. For example, if a girl has an amazing pussy and clearly loves me inside her then she basically doesn't have to do anything else. I'll do all the work! Other guys won't like it, but I do. However, that is a big if.

    I always remember a friend who needed good service, and he said a HYA had especially low service. I asked, "But she has an amazing pussy right?" The answer is yes. "And you'll repeat her for it right?" The answer is also yes. Just how it is, it is possible for a pussy to be that good. Not just her pussy, but her feedback and reaction was simply beautiful and genuine. What a princess.

    Aoi J
    Here at the bottom I will link to my Aoi J reviews so fewer people will notice and not overwork her. I already made 3 posts with a different combo of photos as a photo guide, but the first link is all you need. Maybe her main appeal is her very youthful body type, it is skinny and very well-propotioned. She is 5'5" so not a short spinner, but she looks tiny in a different way than spinners. Therefore, the photo guide is essential.

    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7379539 Aoi J 1
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7381870 Aoi J 2
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7385147 Aoi J 3

    I tried out different photos to get feedback on which ones helped people the most. Many people agree that the first particular photo is very close to her, linked here below. The only difference is Aoi J has smaller hands and feet.
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/atta...0&d=1756015735 Aoi J closest model photo

    Lucky for OC, we now have 3 3/4 jgirls in town. SD also has 1/2 a jgirl. Socal jgirls have good looks again and they range from HYA to decent looking pre-MILFs. If you really need more jgirls, there is also Miyahouse in SGV of LA. #2 if you like skinny. The drive and parking is way better than with the WLA korgs. For those who go to MH, if you show up early and need a bathroom use the McDonald's.

    I have written out every tip I can think of, so my job is done. The post below contains more important tips.

  15. #43
    I have no time for full rosters, but I will review some girls later. Here are some final guides.

    001s are more important than ever. Some girls do not want to bb, but they offer it as a last resort since some customers need it. But many people are now using 001s with great success. Some guys do make an exception to bb a true atf, and when they test the difference it's not much. Especially once you fully hard and getting into it. Here is a copy of a guide I wrote before:

    Quote Originally Posted by Download X  [View Original Post]
    001 Condoms
    Attached are Sagami 001 and Okamoto 001 box photos. If you buy off of Ebay, the Sagamis cost me $2.30 each and the Okamotos cost me $3.50 each (I am buying the L size so this may affect pricing due to low stock). Some reported the Okamotos are of better quality.
    With $100 bb it is $98 saved. 001s aren't the cure for anything, but they can be useful for greek, no cip girls, GFE only girls, and saving money on bb upcharge. 001s feel about 75% close to bb compared to default US condoms, which are 5x to 7x as thick. 001 means it's 10 microns (.01 mm) thick. They take practice to roll on because they are so thin, so I would unroll 1-3 inches manually against your finger, then slide it on, then roll the rest down. I've done many tests.

    They are thin, durable, good heat and texture transfer. But if you are a big guy, make sure to get the L size. True magnums will be too big for the L. 002s and 003s are also available in case you nut too fast with 001s. As with all condoms, make sure there is room at the tip and to roll the condom down all the way for best results.

    Thinner is not always better though. Younger guys want to use normal condoms because the 001 will make them nut too fast. But it goes without saying that it dramatically reduces the chance of stds. There are even some GFE only girls who are hygenic and when I put on the 001 halfway through bbbj they suddenly get more confident and give way better head. On repeats I simply put the 001 on right away with them.

    I also use 001s on GFE only girls, and they loved it. It may be the greatest gift I ever gave some of them, the taste of the Dark Side.

    When I was strictly GFE only, I still got tested periodically. When I tried bb, maybe every 6 to 18 months I would feel some symptoms and get treated. I always tested negative for STDs, but the tests don't check for milder NGUs which can be treated by antibacterials. Some info:

    Quote Originally Posted by PePe44  [View Original Post]
    Personally I use some doxyPEP eventually if exposed and condoms. There is NGU going around that roots deep and escapes undetected unless you get a swab and analysis. Symptoms can be anything from slight itch to uncomfortable unexplained twinges. NGU will lie deep in the prostate and you need special regimen of antibiotics to shake it out. Some ladies may have it and not even have a symptom which makes BB the challenge it is. When in doubt with a BB Spec invest into some. 001's as those are fun!
    Quote Originally Posted by Download X  [View Original Post]
    For those doing BB often, there is doxyPEP or you can get treated periodically. NGUs are mild but there are no tests for most of them so to be clear testing will NOT identify NGUs. However you can either feel them or sometimes smell them. Exactly as Pepe says, 'slight itch' or 'unexplained twinges'. Of course, newer guys always panic even when there is no problem. First link below if you just want NGU treatment.
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...ic#post7114663 Callondoc for antibiotics
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7287047 Staying healthy PSA
    https://www.ochealthinfo.com/service...-and-treatment OC STD clinic
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7312557 Cheap and private testing comments

    Of course if you actually test positive for a more serious bacteria, get the in-clinic shot which is the gold standard. But pill antibiotics are effective, and there are detailed studies done showing that they are close enough (since some people are allergic to the shot). The most imoportant viruses to deal with are HPV through Gardasil 9 (available 45 years and under) and Hepatitus B. These two vaccines can be booked easily at CVS and other pharmacies. HPV kills three orders of magnitude more people (from cancer) than the other viruses people have to worry about.

    The details are in the first two links, I won't rehash it all.

    Don't get stuck
    Do not fall in love with working girls. Almost all of us start out making mistakes like that. Just be free like a butterfly flying from flower to flower. Sometimes you land on the same flower a few more times, but that's all you need. The cure for liking one woman too much is another woman. When my friends got stuck, that was always the cure. Now looking back, they have no idea how they were under a previous woman's spell!

    It even struck a sudden fear in friends that they almost fell so hard for a woman in the past. It is always obvious in hindsight.

    One reason we see these girls is they have no expectation that we should see them again, no complaint if we see another girl. On the flipside, these girls can work or not work and don't answer to us either. I hope they are off having the time of their life. Maybe later we get to see them again after they are in peak condition from recovery.

    Someone recently asked me if I knew where Nali went. I said if I knew, I wouldn't say. And I don't even want to know so I don't ask. No point in knowing or having drama. You are not happier to know, and it is good enough that everyone was better for having met her.

    HYA service
    How does a HYA service queen even exist? It turns out you can speedrun her training if there is a master teaching her in private. Another method is if there is a HYA trainer. He cannot get her up to S or A tier, but he can get her up to B tier service in 2 weeks as long as she has a positive attitude about sex. Best if no one believes on either idea.

    I don't like to put out service warnings unless I'm sure it's not just a ymmv situation. So if a girl gets "three strikes", I think it is fair enough to issue a warning. I recently had to for a jgirl for East Coast:

    Quote Originally Posted by Download X  [View Original Post]
    Add one more to the E-Tier service list. I recognize Mimi AB ads as Moe RS8 in NYC. Several reports on the other site from NYC on her. Maybe things have improved since July but she was no kissing, GPS, bad attitude, no skills, lazy. Multiple red flags, an outlier. May have also been Miya AHG and Sakura DMVG.

    E-Tier service is about 4% of my experiences, with F-Tier being rare at 1%. The reasons are varied, no point thinking too hard about it.
    This was not just one data point, multiple guys on the other site rated her as hostile service. The very worst they had ever experienced. To be clear, guys who saw 20 to 50 girls said she was the very worst girl ever. That was E-Tier service (F-Tier is worse but super rare). Service is very subjective, but here are guidelines on what my service rankings mean:

    F-Tier Service: Openly hostile. This was always either due to actual mental illness (2 times) or the girl smelling rancid (0 times at korgs but I've seen it with independents). I have heard other guys report girls who were just mentally not there, though I haven't seen that myself. One of the 2 girls I saw had very clear signs of Schizophrenia and was paranoid and imagined me as part of a conspiracy. I had repeated her so this was a new thing for her, I felt very bad for her. It took me 10 minutes to calm her down and prove to her I wasn't part of a conspiracy. At the end, I urgently told her she needs to see a doctor for Schizophrenia (she knew something was wrong with her but not what).

    Just because a girl gives F-Tier service does not mean I blame her.

    E-Tier: Below the bare minimum service, usually three red flags. Some combination of lazy as fuck, many restrictions, no skills, bad attitude, GPS. Usually a result of her not knowing her job. E-tier is basically a scammer with extra steps.

    Btw, some reviewers are so soft that they will just say this girl is just "bad service" without spelling out how bad. You need to read between the lines.

    D-Tier: Brand new girl with zero skill but at least willing. Low skills and no idea what to do, no vibe, no routine. This I can work with, because the most common reason is she is very new and usually they are willing and cooperative. In those cases, they were young and innocent, with low experience. But they also loved everything I did, they especially loved dick in their pussy just not necessarily in their mouth. Their reactions are generally real and special, having seen a ton of girls I'll just say is very hard to fake. I kissed Hanni on the face and she immediately had the most genuine blushing smile, like it was her first boyfriend kissing her. I was blown away, I had never seen any reaction like it and never have again. Another brand new girl, I laid back and she started massaging my thighs wtf. I was worried how she would even survive, so I showed her all the routines and had her try bbbj with different instructions until she got it right. Many other things. I prepared her per my Lizza guide, and she was also wet naturally. She went from D-Tier service to C-Tier a week later to B-Tier a week later.

    So unless a girl is brand new, there is no excuse for even below average service. It is always a result of burnout, improper sleep or eating, or not knowing her job.

    On "service specs", sometimes the best way to review a girl is with the simple truth. Here is a decoder:

    "This girl is ymmv and may not give good service to disrespectful guys" = stay away creeps she doesn't play along

    "She is great in bed but I could not vibe with her" = stay home stalkers she won't even pretend

    This is the other side of matchmaking.

    Most girls naturally get wet, you just have to prepare them. A recap of how to prepare HYA:

    How to prepare HYA
    First, I prepare the girl by making her feel safe and comfortable. A few words, some good eye contact, gentle touching and watching her reaction. The first few minutes of introduction are key. In bed, I work on the foreplay. Same as a man, a woman gets aroused and it starts extra blood flow. The blood flow causes the vaginal walls to swell and expand. This loosens things a lot and doubles the depth on average. Every woman is aroused differently, so I try things and see what she likes. I guess her password to unlock her. It is a great pleasure to discover a woman's password and re-use it on repeats.

    A typical vagina starts at 2 to 4 inches depth, growing to 5 to 8 inches after arousal. Even men cannot get arousal when stressed or scared, so it pays to prepare the woman. You are the main beneficiary. Treating a woman right is not just about manners, it is about unlocking her.

    Above all, always start slow. When in doubt, don't go all the way in at first and let the girl show you her desired pace to start. Then take over when things look good. When changing position to doggy, start slow again the first several strokes. Once I learned and improved this, I got along with girls in bed.

    How to prepare HYA part 2
    Lizza had the tightest pussy, many of us could not even fit in a finger at first. So after preparing her with proper foreplay, I'd have her start on top of me riding me so she has control. I encourage her to take her time, go at her pace. If she can get me in slowly on the first slow stroke, then the second faster stroke will ensure her juices or the lube are evenly spread. Even spread is very important, you do not want a dry spot or there is too much friction. After the first few strokes with Lizza, it was clear we were good to go and I took over. I start by following her pace that she showed me. Don't go faster than a girl's preferred pace until you see the signs. This pays dividends and increases your chance of reaching the next level.

    Lastly, it must be said that any girl no matter how accommodating can get injured. When that happens, even normal sized or regular large guys will struggle even if the girl could take a magnum earlier. Any veteran knows this. We have seen where many of us could not book a girl due to days of cancellations after just one guy, some accident or injury. It even makes the girl hard to book even when she comes back due to the backlog.

    Of course, there are a few guys who hurt girls on purpose and that's why there are bans. One friend reviewed an S-Tier HYA East Coast, and some guy shows up next and chokes her. Every customer after has to see the result. I won't say the rest but this happens. This is the real reason for only tipping off "friends first" on HYA, before all the abusers show up to ruin it all. I used to individually PM people East Coast when a good girl showed up there. I know my friends aren't abusers, and girls are happy to see them. Happier by the end of the session than before they started. It is all so stupid.

    For those paying attention, I have given clear PSAs on how true HYA lovers can find them. Bookers keep track of who have bad behavior, so if that is you I am sorry I don't know how to help you there. I guess that's the beauty of it.

    I always compare my notes on girls with others who send in reports. So it will take time, but I will review some OC options later. I've already said four times that Kuzumi J is hot, but only see her if you are "face first" and bring your service. She has no vibe and you must bring the service to enjoy. Love Q has a good spinner body with tits and good attitude. Yi-Seo is a very skinny pre-MILF who is great in bed. Akari J is also a high service pre-MILF jgirl with decent looks. Allie DD is a legendary MILF. Terra is well reviewed if you search OC and SD. Baby Hami is good looking and high service, also older but looks younger. I've already reviewed Baby Peach enough so if you didn't pay attention before, that just makes it easier for us to book her again. There are more but you will need to find the PSA for it.

    Tomi is also legendary and holy fuck you guys in OC are going to keep her 4 weeks at this rate. I guess OC figured it out this time. I've reviewed her clearly, she is next level imo so best that's all I say so SD can have a turn someday. Scroll down to my 8/18 post on Tomi and make note that she is 30 min for 220, 45 min for 260, 60 min for 300, 50 bb.
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7376007 Tomi 8/18

    I'm going to attach two random photos of a hot jgirl, Anna Tanaka. You're gonna need to bring your service.
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