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  1. #47563
    Quote Originally Posted by Bbaka10  [View Original Post]
    Anyone have any experience with meeting up with a kgirl off the clock? I've built up enough rapport with one of my ATFs where she's open to meeting up on her off days.

    Looking for tips on what to expect (e. G. Is she going to expect me to pay still? If so, is it going to be cheaper since no booker fee? Is there some sort of etiquette? My DMs are open.
    It's between you and the girl and depends on your motivation and her motivation. It's important your motivations are matching, or it will peter out and not end well. If she wants fun, give her fun. If she wants money, give her some money. Keep a first date limited/flexible so you can bail. Do it on her off day with no distractions.

    Most veterans here have been burned, many have sworn it off for life. Their thoughts on this are sometimes dark and sad. For good reason, know your motivation and her motivation well. Only pick a good person to date. Dating for "just looks" sucks. I wouldn't do that. If you mean to bang instead of dating but off the clock, it is just my opinion but that is drama. Some guys say they do it but they pay one way or another. Do not look for a happy ending.

    This is why I only do it with the 3% of girls I feel are good people and special. I keep a date limited and one time only, no romance or future possibility. I communicate that ahead of time and only go if that's clear. One fun day, the plan is I never date her again. Usually, I never see her again the rest of my life. To my knowledge no one else uses this strategy, but it is the only one I will ever use and has a 100% success rate of fun and not being burned. For everyone else, here's my advice..

    Quote Originally Posted by Download X  [View Original Post]
    The longer the date, the higher the chances of disappointment. Just lunch or dinner on her day off is safest, maybe some sightseeing if there's actually a place she wants to see (unfortunately OC has very few options). Few girls can be special enough for it to work out once, even fewer on repeat. I always caution that many veterans have tried it and even if it starts out good they often get burned. Even if the girl does nothing wrong, the illusion shatters. So while it can work out, the odds are against you.
    Quote Originally Posted by Download X  [View Original Post]
    One reason I've dated a few girls is I want to be a happy memory for them and to have the same myself. It is a dead end if you try anything more since the illusion will shatter at some point.

    I always warn not to date, because almost everyone who's been around has been burned before. Most of us have had that lesson - the key is not to ever get emotionally attached. Always let them go. I do think in 1% to 3% of the case a girl is safe and special. And when I say safety, I mean emotionally stable and not out to extract money out of you. A good girl will not guilt you or mentally drain you, and in those rare 3% of cases she is happy to be with you. You grow together. I actually ask girls out "for free" for a meal or sightseeing. At the very end I give them extra money anyways. Usually, that is the last time I ever see them. It's better that way.
    Quote Originally Posted by Download X  [View Original Post]
    Dates are not normal, even for me. Each one was a unique situation. There are girls that like me a lot more that will not date me..I only date a girl on her day off. I don't want to cause trouble, make her lose income..It has to be her decision to take the day off, has nothing to do with me. Most guys date for selfish reasons, so they are going to drain the woman emotionally. Maybe she will do it if he dumps money on her. So for these kind of dates he should pay the woman and make it a paid date. I won't touch that, it's not nice to the girl, just money.

    I don't pressure women to go on a date with me, she has to really want it. Be warned, don't go otherwise.
    Quote Originally Posted by Download X  [View Original Post]
    Even though you and the rest of us know the red flags, sometimes we get caught off guard. Almost no girl is worth it, but everyone thinks they found the one.

    The good girls never ask for anything, but of course the bad girl stories are numerous. Bad girls are more likely to contact you, it's why when a good girl stops responding to you she is doing you a favor. That is the biggest problem with UTR, when you cannot tell which girl is which and only the bad ones are eager to reply.

    The only reason I feel safe doing UTR at all is I've been burned so hard and burned so long ago. So I steer far clear of drama, no emotional attachment or romance. I give a girl a few happy hours like a nice uncle and then say goodbye forever. It feels like 100% of the veterans have gotten burned before. So I would not even recommend it for 99% of guys, it ends up sucking once you step over a certain boundary.

    I'll repeat again: Almost no girl is worth it, but everyone thinks they found the one.

    There are three roles a guy can play: 1) The rich simp that showers them with gifts, 2) The charming boyfriend who plays their new and temporary love while in town, 3) The nice uncle who treats her well but doesn't need anything from her. Everything else dosn't seem to fit well.
    For my part, I always go the nice uncle route. I have friends who are young and handsome enough to be the charming boyfriend. And I definitely know about the rich whales, I have ended up on the IG of a girl next to them and it is wild how nice they are. None of the three are better than the other, each one is simply suited for a different person.

    Since I am the nice uncle, I am happy for the girl as long as she is treated right. I do have to counsel her handsome boyfriend(s) that the good times were real and "she meant it when she said it".

    Quote Originally Posted by StrongerMonger  [View Original Post]
    Reminds me of the coldest lesson that sometimes applies with women.

    She meant it when she said she loved you. She just meant it in that moment.
    The above was sage advice given to two guys who had the same girl fall in love with them on the same day.

    I have written several dating and UTR guides but I feel like it's better if people don't use them and be happier with their life. I have friends who still try to UTR kgirls and their thoughts are often dark and sad. To my knowledge, I am the only one who actually follows the "goodbye forever date" strategy, which has never once burned me. It is the ultimate technique.

    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...25#post7296325 We all know the red flags
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...43#post7073943 PSA do not date
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...29#post7141129 You can't trust 80% of girls
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7206827 Keep a date short
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7048612 Dating jgirls

  2. #47562

    MILFs

    Quote Originally Posted by Christophe1  [View Original Post]
    Just wondering what everyone considers a MILF? I think a MILF is 35 to 45. Then GILF is 45+.
    I'd say 40 and up. Only because there are so many hot Asian ladies in their 30's, who look like they are in their 20's, it seems wrong to call them MILFs. Then again, I'm the one who thinks Tifa is in her 30's, so what do I know? LOL!

  3. #47561
    BookerM. Sharon listed in pv. LaSera starts tmrw.

    Rokm. Ch /.

  4. #47560

    OTC / Off the Clock

    Anyone have any experience with meeting up with a kgirl off the clock? I've built up enough rapport with one of my ATFs where she's open to meeting up on her off days.

    Looking for tips on what to expect (e. G. Is she going to expect me to pay still? If so, is it going to be cheaper since no booker fee? Is there some sort of etiquette? My DMs are open.

  5. #47559
    Kbliss Sunday funday rollcall.

    Azi Carina Bunny Maya Linda Sharon Jennie playa vista. Lucy Ginger ktwn Prema Dana mw.

  6. #47558

    ??

    Quote Originally Posted by Christophe1  [View Original Post]
    Yeah, my pants had the crusty crouch a couple times that wasn't noticed until doing laundry.

    Just wondering what everyone considers a MILF? I think a MILF is 35 to 45. Then GILF is 45+.

    Stock talk: looks like retail is eyeing the $BULL chart and making comparisons to $HOOD. Only comparable when you look at the enclosed charts but there is a 7. 5 x difference in scale. I think I want to take a low risk trade and buy some leaps a year or more out around the green line where there is a gap. I don't have higher expectations although the market can be irrational, so who knows, might keep a couple runners for the golden dotted line.
    Can there be a new section for "Stock talk"?

  7. #47557
    Quote Originally Posted by DefCooked  [View Original Post]
    I figured there had been enough time between my last visit and now that I've seen her. First off, she knew I had been tapping some of the other ladies in the area so she used her translator to ask whose pussy was better lmao. I tried to rizz her with a generic, "No one has better pussy than you. " Cap but what else could I say. I was wearing black chinos when she practically dragged me on top of her to fuck her with her panties pulled to the side. Service and energy is still the same as I remember and I thought it was pretty hot to visit her when she was in heat or out to eke out a genuine declaration I thought she was #1.

    What I didn't take account for even though I knew she was creamy was I didn't think I would have a straight up pussy cream stamp around my crotch afterwards. I didn't take off my pants until after the first pump and walked out and did grocery shopping with a straight up clam stamp on me. I didn't even realize until my boy pointed it out in public like an ass lmao. Walking with pussy stamps is crazy work but it is what it is. I don't do it because it's easy, I do it for the huzz.
    Keep a pack of baby wipes in the car, they'll clear any clam stamp / snail trail right off. Although, that's only useful if you notice it in time which it sounds like you didn't LOL.

  8. #47556
    Quote Originally Posted by DefCooked  [View Original Post]
    Walking with pussy stamps is crazy work but it is what it is. I don't do it because it's easy, I do it for the huzz.
    Yeah, my pants had the crusty crouch a couple times that wasn't noticed until doing laundry.

    Just wondering what everyone considers a MILF? I think a MILF is 35 to 45. Then GILF is 45+.

    Stock talk: looks like retail is eyeing the $BULL chart and making comparisons to $HOOD. Only comparable when you look at the enclosed charts but there is a 7. 5 x difference in scale. I think I want to take a low risk trade and buy some leaps a year or more out around the green line where there is a gap. I don't have higher expectations although the market can be irrational, so who knows, might keep a couple runners for the golden dotted line.
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  9. #47555

    Big Ol' Booty

    Hey fellas,

    I've been on the search for someone who has a juicy (hopefully real) ass. One that really makes your thank your lucky stars when its looking back at you in doggy. Any and all leads are appreciated, feel free to DM me. My go to bookers are CG, Top Angels, and KBG so if you know of any one, send them my way.

    Thanks in advance and happy mongering!

  10. #47554

    Make sure to take your pants off all the way with Jiyoung

    I figured there had been enough time between my last visit and now that I've seen her. First off, she knew I had been tapping some of the other ladies in the area so she used her translator to ask whose pussy was better lmao. I tried to rizz her with a generic, "No one has better pussy than you. " Cap but what else could I say. I was wearing black chinos when she practically dragged me on top of her to fuck her with her panties pulled to the side. Service and energy is still the same as I remember and I thought it was pretty hot to visit her when she was in heat or out to eke out a genuine declaration I thought she was #1.

    What I didn't take account for even though I knew she was creamy was I didn't think I would have a straight up pussy cream stamp around my crotch afterwards. I didn't take off my pants until after the first pump and walked out and did grocery shopping with a straight up clam stamp on me. I didn't even realize until my boy pointed it out in public like an ass lmao. Walking with pussy stamps is crazy work but it is what it is. I don't do it because it's easy, I do it for the huzz.

  11. #47553
    Kbliss Saturday selection.

    Azi Carina Bunny Maya Linda Sharon Jennie playa vista. Lucy Ginger ktwn Prema Dana Jenny mw.

  12. #47552

    Avoid GILF

    Quote Originally Posted by ThatKidB  [View Original Post]
    Does anyone know if Azi is a rebrand from Vixen? She used to work before and I remember seeing those pictures.
    She goes by Wine and whatever other name she uses. I swear she is 50, small ass tits, flat ass, and rushed session. Big disappointment.

    TER: 381708.

  13. #47551

    Same person.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skyari69  [View Original Post]
    As far as I know, it's not the same person.

    And when I met vixen, her breath was so bad that I never saw her again.
    I was mistaken. It's the same person.

  14. #47550
    Quote Originally Posted by ThatKidB  [View Original Post]
    I decided to see Dana again. I think this time around I'm probably going to not see her anymore just because I felt as if tattoos such as tramp stamps and any other tattoos close to that area are just a turn off for me. But hey to each their own. She was actually admiring my full sleeve as it caught her attention and she kinda dozed off in the 2nd half of the session. That doesn't take away from the fact that she still has a tight kitty and a superb blowjob as well. I'll still admit that my rotation of Maya and Pepsi will still reign supreme and I'll probably be taking a break in the mean time with the price hike even though I now receiving M's rate for her regulars.
    That butterfly tattoo on her butt is such a turn off.

    Horrible location.

  15. #47549

    Dana

    I decided to see Dana again. I think this time around I'm probably going to not see her anymore just because I felt as if tattoos such as tramp stamps and any other tattoos close to that area are just a turn off for me. But hey to each their own. She was actually admiring my full sleeve as it caught her attention and she kinda dozed off in the 2nd half of the session. That doesn't take away from the fact that she still has a tight kitty and a superb blowjob as well. I'll still admit that my rotation of Maya and Pepsi will still reign supreme and I'll probably be taking a break in the mean time with the price hike even though I now receiving M's rate for her regulars.

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