"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[LouisHernandez]

I have been on and off seeking arrangements on and off since 2018 and what's going on now is unprecedented. I've never seen it this bad. Yes I know GPS is rampant from all the guys that have ruined that, but GPS is not what I'm talking about here. The amount of endless texters, girls that ghost for no reason, girls that have no intention on meeting, girls that will be talking to you and just fall off the planet, etc. Is off the charts. I've seen how seeking has changed over the years, but it's a nightmare compared to just 6 mos to a year ago. What is going on out there? What are you guys experiencing? And I'm not talking about trying to land a 8-10. I'm just talking about the mid girls. Is there that much stiff competition out there now? Or is this all the result of simps? I know social media has changed the game dramatically, but I'm just comparing to 6 mos ago. Something changed.

It's a supply and demand issue fundamentally. I think it's b / c younger men have given up on online vanilla dating and we are now competing with them for POTs. It's a sad state of affairs that young men are paying for sex honestly. But online vanilla dating is completely broken, where the top 2-3% of dudes are banging all the girls. Take a look at MATCH groups stock price, it's crashed for a reason.

[MacLuvin]

Girls are agreeing with that? Finding girls has become tougher now a days, it was so easy last year. They just want to sell content fuck them.

Recommend some places you fuck quick and BJ in car? Where do you park? What I need to be cautious in selecting the place.

Doesn't usually / always work the first time, but if you don't come across as a creep or kidnapper you can talk them in to a quick bbj in the back seat sometimes more. I have full size SUV with dark tinted windows and leather seats so like others say doing it in plain site is the best. You don't stand out just parked in a shopping center or something with a few cars / traffic as much as you do if you pull in to an abandoned lot which my draw uncle LEO to pull through and see if a drug deal is going down or something.

The few that have done full service in my SUV were after I'd already met them and when we meet up I give them a "couldn't book the room till 3 pm but still wanted to see you" line and they'll usually just be OK with it because they're already there and need the money.

[LoriTruck]

What was the experience. I am talking to her and everything seems ok for now.

I came to the conclusion that she might be a time waster. She's real but looks are just average. The 2 times I've seen her, there's always been an excuse when it came down to having some adult fun.

[LoriTruck]

Isn't this one of the many crazy girls that some others have referenced in the past? She looks very familiar:

https://members.seeking.com/member/6...4-0ebb13013185

Not sure if she is or not but I recently saw her and had a decent time. I won't be repeating though. A rather tall lady with an average body. Set me back 300 and it included a Bare Beaver Blow Job. Every now and then I felt teeth scraping my little guy but she gave a good effort. Lots of spit and eye contact. I'm not sure if BBFS is on the table but you might could CIM since she mentioned she likes to suck.

[Peter Johnson]

Recommend some places you fuck quick and BJ in car? Where do you park? What I need to be cautious in selecting the place.

For the most part, I would "hide in plain sight" so you don't want to look too suspicious. Office park, shopping center parking lot, etc. But just get some car window covers (sunshades or curtains) and then you will have good privacy, anywhere. Weathertech makes them for most vehicles or you can make your own, or buy cheap ones off of Amazon. If you can put a divider curtain between the front seats and the back, then would look less suspicious, because then the front windows can stay uncovered.

I like having the girls get naked and give me a BJ in the back of my SUV and can usually get some breast play in there too, and even eat them out, for about half of regular ppm. You also then don't have std / pregnancy risk. But usually I still get a hotel room and CIP, just because got to do it.

[Peter Johnson]

You are legend. Limo?? Super rich. This hobby also needs a business which brings money to spend on girls. 9 to5 job is tough.

Ha, not limo, or super rich. Not a millionaire even. 'Limo tint" is just very dark tint on windows, similar to a limo. It only lets 5% of normal amount of light in.

I average spending about $1.5 k a month on this hobby, which is still too high for me and I need to cut it down a bit. Down to $1k would be better. I wish I had about $5k a month to spend, and then could have some serious fun and do it right. You know some guys are flyings girl in from all over the country, and doing threesome with 9s, etc. But that being said, I'm still amazed I can get some hot girls and have incredible times, with my limited budget.

[Peter Pan]

You are legend. Limo?? Super rich. This hobby also needs a business which brings money to spend on girls. 9 to5 job is tough.

Agree! This game / hobby now needs serious money or a lot of time to pull the talent we used to several years ago. Not the same anymore.

[Peter Pan]

Loren is real, but seemingly too shy (IMO) to pull the trigger to meet. I spent months with idle chat here and there, pleasantries, etc. She has the attention span of a gnat and thinks she is way hotter and more appealing than she is. She pops up with a new profile every few months and new photos. She's divorced with a kid and worst of all, a self-righteous attitude that's gotten worse from looking at her profile. I'd focus your time and efforts elsewhere, my 2 cents.

Thank you very much. I love this forum for reasons like this!

[AdmirerSecret]

Girls are agreeing with that? Finding girls has become tougher now a days, it was so easy last year. They just want to sell content fuck them.

Recommend some places you fuck quick and BJ in car? Where do you park? What I need to be cautious in selecting the place.

Honestly I'm up front with these girls, if they can't host or come to me I let them know the room price comes out of our meet allowance. I'm not paying them plus hotel each time. I've had a few here and there that are down to give a BJ or cowgirl quick ride in the pickup truck though and I'm fine with that too if it's just a quicky.

[MacLuvin]

Booking hotels has been expensive, what are otherways? Don't want to take babies home and also they don't host.

I should buy a van with bed LOL.

Honestly I'm up front with these girls, if they can't host or come to me I let them know the room price comes out of our meet allowance. I'm not paying them plus hotel each time. I've had a few here and there that are down to give a BJ or cowgirl quick ride in the pickup truck though and I'm fine with that too if it's just a quicky.

[MacLuvin]

I have been on and off seeking arrangements on and off since 2018 and what's going on now is unprecedented. I've never seen it this bad. Yes I know GPS is rampant from all the guys that have ruined that, but GPS is not what I'm talking about here. The amount of endless texters, girls that ghost for no reason, girls that have no intention on meeting, girls that will be talking to you and just fall off the planet, etc. Is off the charts. I've seen how seeking has changed over the years, but it's a nightmare compared to just 6 mos to a year ago. What is going on out there? What are you guys experiencing? And I'm not talking about trying to land a 8-10. I'm just talking about the mid girls. Is there that much stiff competition out there now? Or is this all the result of simps? I know social media has changed the game dramatically, but I'm just comparing to 6 mos ago. Something changed.

The hotter girls can just sell content and make money on their socials and simps will gladly dish out the cash. The average girls now think they're worth the $$ the hotter girls used to get so the market is all jacked up. Average 30-40's milfs wanting 500+ppm because that's what some hot college coed was asking before she decided to make OF content. When I first started SA 5 years ago, I was nailing 8's-9's in their early 20's all the time for half the $$ these 30-40 year old 4's & 5's are asking. It's awful. Last few girls I met up with from SA I turned down because when I saw them they were 10 years older than their pics and 25 lbs heavier.

[AdmirerSecret]

You are legend. Limo?? Super rich. This hobby also needs a business which brings money to spend on girls. 9 to5 job is tough.

I have an SUV that I already have set up for car camping, with a bed in the back. And I have limo tint on the back windows. It isn't super roomy, so some positions are limited, but it has worked on occasion and does save $100 vs hotel.

[Vader5]

I have been on and off seeking arrangements on and off since 2018 and what's going on now is unprecedented. I've never seen it this bad. Yes I know GPS is rampant from all the guys that have ruined that, but GPS is not what I'm talking about here. The amount of endless texters, girls that ghost for no reason, girls that have no intention on meeting, girls that will be talking to you and just fall off the planet, etc. Is off the charts. I've seen how seeking has changed over the years, but it's a nightmare compared to just 6 mos to a year ago. What is going on out there? What are you guys experiencing? And I'm not talking about trying to land a 8-10. I'm just talking about the mid girls. Is there that much stiff competition out there now? Or is this all the result of simps? I know social media has changed the game dramatically, but I'm just comparing to 6 mos ago. Something changed.

[MSmith3034]

Loren is real, but seemingly too shy (IMO) to pull the trigger to meet. I spent months with idle chat here and there, pleasantries, etc. She has the attention span of a gnat and thinks she is way hotter and more appealing than she is. She pops up with a new profile every few months and new photos. She's divorced with a kid and worst of all, a self-righteous attitude that's gotten worse from looking at her profile. I'd focus your time and efforts elsewhere, my 2 cents.

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...f-807482c893d0

[FreudFro]

I simply don't believe that. Just because someone posts it?

It's not just "someone" writing it.

https://people.com/onlyfans-model-ma...lusive-8758383

This has been published by multiple magazines. Now, could she be bullshitting? Possibly. Maybe she should post her taxes.