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[DrtyHarry]

Need some help from the seasoned veterans here. I'm just trying to figure out how to get started on this SD / SB route. I've seen escorts, etc. But want something more long term and meaningful. I signed up on Seeking (which I assume is the main one here). But I have so many questions.

1) How do you know who is legit vs a scammer? There isn't a place for reviews or anything.

2) How do you schedule the first meeting? Assume it's like a lunch or dinner date. Do you compensate them for their time or just pay for dinner? Isn't compensating for a M&G violating the terms?

3) What are the going rates? No one publishes rates anywhere? For a multi hour tryst? For an overnight? For a week trip to Hawaii?

4) Do you pay a monthly allowance and agree on visits? Or can you pay for each time. Whether it's a short thing or a long thing? Seems like paying for each visit, irrespective of time, violates terms and could get you banned.

5) Any other questions I haven't thought to ask?

Really appreciate some guidance.

I like to call a duck. A duck. It maybe that I am just jaded, but, my strategy has served me well. SA is not what it used to be, it is filled with scammers, pros and wannabe pros. I for one treat the people there accordingly. My time is valuable and I am the one paying, so I make sure I am upfront. I do not (as a rule) pay for taking a SB out for dinner or a date. I mean if I wanted to go out for dinner, I do not have a shortage of women or men (better conversation in my opinion) that will accompany me and pay their own way. I am upfront. I am a busy man, I travel a lot and do this to let my hair down and relax. So I let them know that I am interested in meeting for a few hours of fun in a room somewhere I will compensate them for their time. Many like this strategy and many women don't. Plenty of fish in the sea. I for one. Skip any profile if the lady looks too high maintenance or gives me the impression that she is a hot mess. I mean if I wanted drama, I would stay home and fuck my wife.

[DilzParty]

1. Use common sense. Figure out what you want. A slightly lower cost professional, or a compensated girlfriend. It sounds like the latter which requires more effort and for you to suck less but costs less money. My advice focuses on the latter, other guys can give advice on the former. Don't send money before meeting. Pay them the first time when you are heading to your place or hotel to fuck.

2. Talk to them like a normal woman you meet on a dating site. Unless you are a huge piece of shit. Then act like less of a piece of shit. Don't talk to them like an escort, there is a reason these girls aren't on Tryst. Do not mention compensation on the website. At the right time try and move the conversation to text where you can be more explicit but talk about it Over text in terms of "I'm down to provide financial assistance in an arrangement, what way sounds good to you?" and try and get to a per-meet based arrangement where you give them X every time you see them whether it is a quickie or an overnight. Any sort of compensation is against the terms which is why those conversations happen in person or over text. You do not pay for M&Gs because those girls are just going to take your money and not fuck you.

3. If a girl has per-hour rates she is an escort. There are plenty there, that is fine. Dudes here will claim to have 20 year old college hotties on call 24/7 for $100 a chili's gift card and 3 cigs every meet but more realistically it depends on what you want and how much you want to haggle. I go after 20-30 year old girl next door types and rarely get turned down at $500 with people new to this using it as compensated dating. If you spot a hot as fuck gal who has been on the website for 3-4 years prepare to pay escort rates because she knows she can get it just from fewer dudes. If you can afford it and want to fuck her once, go for it. But if you want something consistent just move on. Her needs ain't getting lower just because you have a budget.

4. Any compensation violates the terms do not talk about it on the website. Once you pass their "I'm willing to maybe be around this person and fuck them" test you can try and take things past messaging. "I'm willing to spoil you" "I want to hear about your needs" etc sends a signal that you aren't trying to be their vanilla boyfriend. Make a pass at getting a phone number, if you can't then you decide whether its worth it to meet them in person and try to discuss it there. Always start per-meet, dropping an allowance on a girl in advance is how to get scammed. Once you've been per-meet for a few months you can decide on whether to move to allowance. I have bandwidth to meet someone about once a week, and once a girl makes it clear they want to see me more than that and / or go on vacation / work trips with me I have a conversation about giving an allowance where I expect to see them about once a week and we should do the occasional weekend away or vacation without having to talk about money every time. When you find the gal who thinks going on vacation with you for no additional money is worth it, congrats you have a perfect SB. About to spend a week in Europe with my current one for the price of a plane ticket and some dinners. This is rare, and if you are a horrifying human being (looks or personality) it will get harder. My current one invites me out social events and is practically just my second partner who takes less of my money than the first one. She looked at me like I was insane when I offered to give her more money to go to Spain with me. Once you hit that level of interest from her its allowance time so you can hit each other up to fuck at any time without needing to worry about your budget. Still give them gifts and do nice things for them.

5. Think about the personality of a 20-something girl and try and become the person they want to date, just a little older and uglier. I hear so many horror stories from SBs about their SDs going on dumb political rants or acting like a 40 year old version of a 20 year old incel whining about men's rights and how hard vanilla dating is. Keep that shit to yourself and go to therapy unless you just want to date the bottom of the barrel desperate SBs who will put up with anything. Try and have shit in common with them or you are never going to make it to the spoiled girlfriend stage and I don't know why you would want to get there with someone you don't actually want to do stuff with.

Need some help from the seasoned veterans here. I'm just trying to figure out how to get started on this SD / SB route. I've seen escorts, etc. But want something more long term and meaningful. I signed up on Seeking (which I assume is the main one here). But I have so many questions.

[Dukie5555]

Need some help from the seasoned veterans here. I'm just trying to figure out how to get started on this SD / SB route. I've seen escorts, etc. But want something more long term and meaningful. I signed up on Seeking (which I assume is the main one here). But I have so many questions.

1) How do you know who is legit vs a scammer? There isn't a place for reviews or anything.

2) How do you schedule the first meeting? Assume it's like a lunch or dinner date. Do you compensate them for their time or just pay for dinner? Isn't compensating for a M&G violating the terms?

3) What are the going rates? No one publishes rates anywhere? For a multi hour tryst? For an overnight? For a week trip to Hawaii?

4) Do you pay a monthly allowance and agree on visits? Or can you pay for each time. Whether it's a short thing or a long thing? Seems like paying for each visit, irrespective of time, violates terms and could get you banned.

5) Any other questions I haven't thought to ask?

Really appreciate some guidance.

[PriceIsRight39]

People like her are telling you what you need to know from her behavior.

IME -- 8 years or so -- those kinds are never worth the trouble. And they will be trouble.

Marko3000 speaks truth to the young grasshopper (gong).

[PriceIsRight39]

LOL, they are all pros man. I've been seeing this girl off and on for years. I'm not hung up what she does when she isn't with me.

Pretty much. I remember the day I found my early SB on a hooker site!! I was devastated hahaha. We have to be at levels like 25% of women are selling themselves. It will grow as AI puts normie office / govt jobs, largely held by women, in the dust bin of history. It will not however end their delusional thinking. GPS shall prevail.

Peace!

[PriceIsRight39]

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...c-f2221acf9933

48 year old, seemed nice while chatting, kinda cute. Wants 800-1000 ppm LOL.

LOL. 48? She should pay you! Delusion is strong with that one.

[PriceIsRight39]

Seems to me that lately the most obnoxious GPS is from fat girls. I'm not talking thick or chubby chicks here, I'm talking seriously morbidly obese.

And I hate it when they chicken out and no-show me but text me later and want me to cashapp them for the meetup that they didn't show up for. Can't really figure that one out.

Did we think " body positivity " movement (thanks Lizzo) would have no consequences? Hehe. Also, one must keep in mind there are many, many men with standards much, much below yours. Fat chicks get a lot of dick and now apparently money for it too.

[PriceIsRight39]

Hey all, thanks for sharing your insights for my previous posts, that helped in making some progress in getting dates in SA.

Any thoughts on how 'face verification' helping on SA? Understand that 'face verification' would be hidden and not shared with anyone. Only the verification icon on SA profile will be enabled. Does it adds any value on SA, does it make reliable for the SBs reach out or increase any chances for meet and greet?

Any pitfalls of doing face verification? Please share your thoughts appreciate it. I believe face verification is the simplest and quickest without need to share any personal details. Please share your thoughts.

(Couple of SBs declined / not responding because I don't have any verification, so started thinking about it. They specifically asked for verification.).

They could also be fishing for identity for scams. This game is basically dead or heavily damaged.

[PriceIsRight39]

Her name is SWALLOW.

I've found the perfect SB!

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...6-4c102dc3a11d

Also, never tell them that or it's the beginning of the end. Haha shhhhhhh.

[PriceIsRight39]

Her name is SWALLOW.

I've found the perfect SB!

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...6-4c102dc3a11d

No so has everyone else. Hehe. We've all said that one before. Enjoy.

[Dirk901]

All,

Looks like she been around for awhile. Anyone seen her? Pro?

https://members.seeking.com/member/5...8-6f60995dbcd6

[Maui Glory]

Her name is SWALLOW.

I've found the perfect SB!

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...6-4c102dc3a11d

[Markro3000]

Just a warning they keep those verification photos and use them to validate banned accounts. I had an account banned and tried to create a new one with a new browser and VPN and my account was empty. After an hour my new account was banned. I assume they have humans do the verification process against a list of banned profiles.

I'm more than a little concerned about this too. Not sure there's a realistic workaround.

[MyNickname]

They have said in the past that can report the member to police for engaging in prostitution. A photo would be very easy for police to follow up if they wanted.

Hey all, thanks for sharing your insights for my previous posts, that helped in making some progress in getting dates in SA.

Any thoughts on how 'face verification' helping on SA? Understand that 'face verification' would be hidden and not shared with anyone. Only the verification icon on SA profile will be enabled. Does it adds any value on SA, does it make reliable for the SBs reach out or increase any chances for meet and greet?

Any pitfalls of doing face verification? Please share your thoughts appreciate it. I believe face verification is the simplest and quickest without need to share any personal details. Please share your thoughts.

(Couple of SBs declined / not responding because I don't have any verification, so started thinking about it. They specifically asked for verification.).

[LonelyMan718]

Hey all, thanks for sharing your insights for my previous posts, that helped in making some progress in getting dates in SA.

Any thoughts on how 'face verification' helping on SA? Understand that 'face verification' would be hidden and not shared with anyone. Only the verification icon on SA profile will be enabled. Does it adds any value on SA, does it make reliable for the SBs reach out or increase any chances for meet and greet?

Any pitfalls of doing face verification? Please share your thoughts appreciate it. I believe face verification is the simplest and quickest without need to share any personal details. Please share your thoughts.

(Couple of SBs declined / not responding because I don't have any verification, so started thinking about it. They specifically asked for verification.).

Just a warning they keep those verification photos and use them to validate banned accounts. I had an account banned and tried to create a new one with a new browser and VPN and my account was empty. After an hour my new account was banned. I assume they have humans do the verification process against a list of banned profiles.