Hot Young Asian Girls in OC

[FarFarAway]

So two posters here say that SBs are a bad idea for married guys because of potential trouble. But to get into any of the K-orgs, as I understand it, it is required that you give up your IRL identity. How is that good OPSEC? If something goes south w / the booker, if LE gets involved, that client list gets publicized, and then there is no denying, to anyone, that you've been banging SYTs. Could be the end of life for many many guys. I also don't appreciate the image of being just another customer, and would never believe the experience of a K-girl was actually real. How could you when you don't even speak the same language in many cases? - some may have different experiences, but I'd always have in the back of my mind it was just an act. Because I have an ongoing relationship w / my SBs, I know what they are experiencing w / me is real. And that doesn't put me at risk. As I said, I never give up my IRL info to my SB, I have a complete cover story, and whenever I need to / want to I can just disappear. However, if I have seen someone on an ongoing basis, because there is a relationship, I would never ghost. If I just get tired of her, or there is some other issue, I'd have a quick convo or text exchange to close the loop.

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The main issues w / borderlines in relationships, sugar or not, is that they can absolutely lose all standards of civility and then become your worst nightmare, without warning (or with quite small stimulus). Other posters seem to have used Dr. Google. I am close to mental health professionals, they provide a different picture of borderlines than the internet.

You need to have your spidey senses on at all times when playing in the sugar bowl, unless you've been w / the same SB for a while and she has proven trustworthy. Still, as per a recent post from Joydrop, keep your IRL identity away from your SB for as long as possible. A year or more. That is the best way to be able to vaporize yourself in a poof, for your own safety.

Hi, this is just my own opinion so it's not my intention to offend, just share my own observations in case it might help save someone time and money. Sugaring is a bad idea when you're under watch for exactly the reason you describe. Exposing yourself, being at risk, hiding yourself while having a half-relationship with a girl. SBs are the worst offenders there.

You might have some fun but it is also expensive and you pay a lot for little. Fun that is imagined. But if it suits you, do your thing. It's just not suited for people who are already taken. I for my part have had a lot more fun with kgirls, and there is greater quantity and quality to be had as long as you are willing to potentially move on each time. Don't get attached to any one girl. It's safer and honestly more fun. You just happen to see a girl you like 3-5 times and it's as fun if not more than a SB, because you do the vetting by virtue of seeing many girls and returning to the ones you vibe with.

The half-relationship with kgirls is sexual and there's a lot more phsyical freedom than SBs. SBs will never respect you at the physical level, if even the emotional. The best part of visiting the agency is you walk out in 60 minutes and get to decide if it's worth a repeat. Not quite with typical SBs arrangements. This is what tends to give you good service with kgirls but not SBs.

In the rare case you date a kgirl, is way safer since they are still working as their main income and have no time or energy to hunt you down like a SB who has just you or a few high valued clients. Girls work at the agency prepared to not see again any guy that walks through the door. The opposite of SBs. Your privacy is the same as theirs, both are respected by default. It is also way cheaper of course. All bets are off if a kgirl quits her job, then the risk proposition is a step closer to the SB level. Speaking from experience. As long as a kgirl works for an agency, you are much safer than when she is not.

I know many of us want to be loved and to feel special, but to sum it up you pay too much for too little with SBs. And they set the limits and call the shots in too many situations, the opposite of kgirls by default. Just some thoughts from over the years. I have tried but the value proposition isn't there nor is it as safe to SB. A lot of vetting and hoping involved.

[Taliesin92]

You need to have your spidey senses on at all times when playing in the sugar bowl...

Absolutely. It's why I put away the sugar bowl for good. Too much vetting required. It's far too much work, compared to the wonderful and carefree k-girl universe.

[Taliesin92]

Dang. I would have said to myself, this girls does cutting. Either leave or continue. Would not go into woke mode and start lecture only to cream pie her 5 min later.

Try learning English before posting such gibberish.

[FarFarAway]

This topic is present in the thread. I have not seen it in even 1 girl on seeking in 5+ years, and specifically, no cutting. This is possibly because I take a lot of care in vetting them in advance. I message a lot, talk to them on the phone, M&G. Like a SD should. One who has a warden and doesn't want to get involved w / a SB who will be more of a headache than a sex kitten.

The main issues w / borderlines in relationships, sugar or not, is that they can absolutely lose all standards of civility and then become your worst nightmare, without warning (or with quite small stimulus). Other posters seem to have used Dr. Google. I am close to mental health professionals, they provide a different picture of borderlines than the internet.

You need to have your spidey senses on at all times when playing in the sugar bowl, unless you've been w / the same SB for a while and she has proven trustworthy. Still, as per a recent post from Joydrop, keep your IRL identity away from your SB for as long as possible. A year or more. That is the best way to be able to vaporize yourself in a poof, for your own safety.

[Clclcl]

Yeah, unfortunately, that's a classic sign of Borderline Personality Disorder. Seen it many times in this hobby, including one girl (a sugar baby) who did it right in front of me one night at my place. I had to take the knife away from her, bandage her up, and call the paramedics. She wound up spending the weekend at a county mental health facility. It's a sad reality of the P4 P world. A lot the girls suffer from this type of mental illness, or similar disorders. Makes me wonder sometimes if it's the only way they can do this job. They have to be mentally messed up in the first place.

Some guys don't think it's a real issue. But having seen it up close and personal, it's absolutely real and heart breaking. Of course, not all of them suffer from it, but I'd guess it's a far higher percentage than you'd find in the general population.

Dang. I would have said to myself, this girls does cutting. Either leave or continue. Would not go into woke mode and start lecture only to cream pie her 5 min later.

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Saw Lizza yesterday and would definitely confirm her as HYA, specifically the "cute face, hot body" reports. I think she's a must-see for anyone just looking for HYA, so I'll start off with that, but some additional notes:

- Her skin around her waist / butt are kind of rough. Felt like scars but couldn't see any. Not sure if people are just clawing at it or if she has butt eczema or something. I just attributed it to people digging into it or something because the visuals from behind are 10/10.

- BJ is very one-note but still good. No teeth, soft.

- Can take a pounding and creams up.

- I will say her breath is kind of not the best. It's not smokers breath or food breath, it's just not great. She also didn't use the mouthwash in the beginning either so if you can find a polite way to get her to do it with you (maybe offering to pour yourself, and then pouring her a cup) that might get more out of the session.

Agreed. I think it is eczema around the butt, you might feel it but it looks mild. Ass is great. She is CYA but with the warning that she is cute and young but not a service queen. Like most CYA.

Cute face and nice hair, petite. Great body shape. MMs. Her ad photos completely match as far as the body, but different face. Same proportions and size as ad photo. I'd guess 5'1", white body, very young. Early 20s.

BJ is soft as you say, but her face and style is nice so it's enough to get hard. I remember Baby Soyul's BBBJ, it was like fucking air. The softest BJ possible. But if a girl is cute enough I don't even care, I will get rock hard from watching her do it.

Very good English, she seems new so let her know what you want. She will not attack you like milfs but is gentle and attentive. Like a jgirl as others have said. Her style is nice.

[Tobonkornot]

Saw Lizza yesterday and would definitely confirm her as HYA, specifically the "cute face, hot body" reports. I think she's a must-see for anyone just looking for HYA, so I'll start off with that, but some additional notes:

- Her skin around her waist / butt are kind of rough. Felt like scars but couldn't see any. Not sure if people are just clawing at it or if she has butt eczema or something. I just attributed it to people digging into it or something because the visuals from behind are 10/10.

- BJ is very one-note but still good. No teeth, soft.

- Can take a pounding and creams up.

- I will say her breath is kind of not the best. It's not smokers breath or food breath, it's just not great. She also didn't use the mouthwash in the beginning either so if you can find a polite way to get her to do it with you (maybe offering to pour yourself, and then pouring her a cup) that might get more out of the session.

[ReDtoLaunch]

Looks like Miyahouse up in LA posted a jgirl with her photos.

Sana is a CYA. The photos are real, the video is of her, and she looks to be in her early 20's and has a rockin' body with natural C's. She's Japanese with a huge smile and a cute overbite and greeted me at the door in lingerie and a demure personality.

But, the photos airbrushed out two things. Her tattoos (arm tattoo, upper chest tattoo), and her left arm is completely scarred from cutting. About halfway up her forearm almost all the way up to her shoulder. Some of the cuts look like they were made in the last month, as they are still red and not healed over. I'd estimate about 30 cutting scars.

I honestly couldn't perform well. I asked her if she was OK and had people to talk to about her cutting, and just wanted to make sure she was doing OK.

If that kind if thing doesn't bother you, I'd imagine she would be a total treat, as she is CUTE. But I just wanted to post a warning to my bros here who might find such a thing to be a downer.

[JohnHada]

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[Taws6]

who did it right in front of me one night at my place. I had to take the knife away from her, bandage her up, and call the paramedics. She wound up spending the weekend at a county mental health facility.

Reading the original post, I was thinking, oh, man, I could see a scenario where asking the wrong way might be a trigger & the gal cutting herself during a session.

I'm sure that risk is near non existent, but wow, I wouldn't want to have to wait & file a report with anyone (I never bring I'd to an appointment for instance).

I would hope more gals have to file death reports due to heart attacks more often than guys on girls self harming.

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Yeah, unfortunately, that's a classic sign of Borderline Personality Disorder. Seen it many times in this hobby, including one girl (a sugar baby) who did it right in front of me one night at my place. I had to take the knife away from her, bandage her up, and call the paramedics. She wound up spending the weekend at a county mental health facility. It's a sad reality of the P4 P world. A lot the girls suffer from this type of mental illness, or similar disorders. Makes me wonder sometimes if it's the only way they can do this job. They have to be mentally messed up in the first place.

No, there are always signs before. The work can make it worse, or it might even make it better. But it is never the start. Best not to know a girl's backstory, it won't help you Captain Save a Ho her. It rarely works. Few people are of the Admiral rank needed to solve their problems, and even if you met the requirements you can only fuck yourself over once. Don't. Most people can't even if they wanted to, though.

Treat the girls well and be respectful, but best to stay out of the behind the scenes. She's gotten the question before already. The last girl I knew was actually very happy, her scars were from many years before the work. The work was the solution to her life, not the problem. That is the more common case.

I have seen one girl who burns herself. Other than taking care of her in the moment, do not get involved. Just be a good customer like with all women. It is usually the only way you can help anyways. I have taken some peeks and in a lot of cases you won't even make a dent and could even make it worse by being involved. In the cases you could make it better, it would cost you your current life as you know it to fix.

You can actually make a much bigger difference with the normal girls. Have a good hour with them and wave goodbye. Both of you leave better than you started. I have seen many girls like this make their life much better later on. Not the other girl. Help these girls. You don't even have to do anything other than visit them and enjoy.

[Taliesin92]

Sana is a CYA. The photos are real, the video is of her, and she looks to be in her early 20's and has a rockin' body with natural C's. She's Japanese with a huge smile and a cute overbite and greeted me at the door in lingerie and a demure personality.

But, the photos airbrushed out two things. Her tattoos (arm tattoo, upper chest tattoo), and her left arm is completely scarred from cutting. About halfway up her forearm almost all the way up to her shoulder. Some of the cuts look like they were made in the last month, as they are still red and not healed over. I'd estimate about 30 cutting scars.

I honestly couldn't perform well. I asked her if she was OK and had people to talk to about her cutting, and just wanted to make sure she was doing OK.

If that kind if thing doesn't bother you, I'd imagine she would be a total treat, as she is CUTE. But I just wanted to post a warning to my bros here who might find such a thing to be a downer.

Yeah, unfortunately, that's a classic sign of Borderline Personality Disorder. Seen it many times in this hobby, including one girl (a sugar baby) who did it right in front of me one night at my place. I had to take the knife away from her, bandage her up, and call the paramedics. She wound up spending the weekend at a county mental health facility. It's a sad reality of the P4 P world. A lot the girls suffer from this type of mental illness, or similar disorders. Makes me wonder sometimes if it's the only way they can do this job. They have to be mentally messed up in the first place.

Some guys don't think it's a real issue. But having seen it up close and personal, it's absolutely real and heart breaking. Of course, not all of them suffer from it, but I'd guess it's a far higher percentage than you'd find in the general population.

[HornyToad75]

Is going down to a deep rabbit hole. Imagine you inquire and her response will either be:

A. She politely don't tell you the truth.

Or.

B. She tell you the truth, but than what can you actually do, especially she's here on a short stay.

IMO unless you plan to invest more time & money to it, don't get too curious.

The best way to help is be a good customer and visit more often.

Since BlizaBliz already asked, I think it would be helpful for people thinking about seeing her to know how she responded, and take appropriate course of action. Understood this is a complex issue that neither party may not want to delve into, but it would seem weird to completely ignore the cuts over the arm without asking her if everything is OK.

[Tobonkornot]

Can't imagine trying to counsel a girl because I was triggered by her cutting marks. Probably better to just leave if it bothered you that much. We are customers and not white knights its best to fulfill your end of the transaction and move on in a respectful way.

I doubt it's even about "white knighting". We talk about "attitude" because it's a key aspect for establishing the right atmosphere. Well so are the these kinds of "outlier" physical qualities. I would think that's what BlizaBliz is sort of alluding to. It can you take out of the state of mind or be a turnoff altogether. Whether that's because of concern for the girl, concern for yourself (idk, that Black Mirror White Christmas episode has me fucked up on doing things with people that don't value their own wellbeing / lives), some psychological trigger if you or people you know have a history of self-harm, or the visuals altogether of seeing the scars.

I'm glad you mentioned it Bliza, thanks!