Philly Sugar

[WaltoDerri267]

Don't positively reinforce this behavior. Just drive to the nearest police station. You don't even need to really do anything, she either freaks out and runs or you can just tell the police, "She's a hookup but now I want her out of my car cause she's trying to scam me. " It's your car, you have every right to have her leave it.

Yeah I fell for that once but it was with some craigslist girl I saw a few times back when they still allowed that kind of stuff on their site. I had no reason to think she was going to steal from me because we meet occasionally but each time it was a worse and worse meet up. Looks like her family kicked her to the curb and she went to live basically anywhere. Was ages ago and essentially the first pro I ever hung out with so. Lesson learned.

And I'm noticing that too. Way too many thieving little w h 0 re $ who want you to send money before anything. Even meeting in person for a hello. They ALWAYS have a story. This one below does that A LOT. One time with one number it was her birthday. Another time she was late on a bill of some kind. Then there was her not being able to drive over cause she needed to pay her car's insurance. Yeah, cause if you don't pay it your car instantly turns off and you cannot drive it anymore. JFC these sluts.

https://members.seeking.com/member/f...e-571f18ed04b7

Tried this other one below again. Already posted a report about her but it was long enough that she probably didn't remember me. She didn't. Takes ages to reply back. Acts like a hooker. "I want this amount for X hours and this amount for X+1 hours" nickel and diming you because she "values her time. " And yet she takes days or a week to reply. Called her out for what she is like 11 days ago, then sent a reply back JUST TODAY with her usual yadda yadda of "I found you online, I'm going to let everyone know on your FB about you" I'm using a fake number and she already tried that before where she tries to scare you by saying she found your personal info online and she's going to post your record. What a miserable life she must have that she thinks that catch-all shot in the dark is going to apply to everyone she talks to. Grade-A white trash that one.

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...a-3a46571ac40c

Funny enough I threatened to drive to the police station and she didn't budge. It seemed she feared who ever she was working with more than the cops. She even cited that I had already booked the room so it would be lost money and I was like yeah. That's why I'm even more pissed than normal LOL she had zero shame.

[WaltoDerri267]

Sorry this happened to you. Doesn't sound like a Sugar baby, more of an escort related scammer.

Now not being critical, but I had to learn this "no money upfront" the hard way too. In fact, for the edification of lurkers or those who are new, I'll reference "the rules" which apply to escorts and equally to SBs. Some techniques for not paying up front in that thread.

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...s-For-BackPage

So when a girl pulls a stunt like that, first stay calm and don't get physical. The advice with Streetwalkers is to have a roll of fake bills accessible and toss those out the window so the girl goes after the money. "OK, here's you money, go get it!" Might not work with a SB, however. But I have had something similar happen to me. One time I drove to a busy gas station, got out of the car and walked around and opened the passenger door and stated loudly, "Please get out of my car. " I had to repeat that several times, increasing the volume until other people at the gas station took notice and some White Knight piped up and said something and she got out of the car.

Another time, I stopped and did the same thing and some dude stopped in front of me. He got out, identified himself as an off duty LE officer, pointing to the badge on his license plate. He told the woman that IF I wanted her out of my car she had to exit the car. She eventually got out.

Gas station, police station or somewhere in view of a security camera might be good too. Get her exiting the car in good shape in case she claims battery later.

Now as far as a girl leaving a purse or something as "collateral" DON'T DO IT! Purse could be a dollar store special with worth-nothing make up in it or whatever. So what if she loses $10 of merch? She trades up, you trade down. Same thing goes for cell phones. Unless you're and expert it could be a $20 prepaid phone.

So yes, scammers will play all kinds of games, tug at your heart strings and other 'stuff' to get you to part with your money. It's gotten increasing difficult to operate in the bowl so one needs to be on their toes. While all of this stuff looks "easy", being prepared with an exit plan at all times is valuable.

Again, sorry for your bad experience! Hang in there! With experience and knowledge one is better able to stay safe! Good luck!

Thanks man, crazy how far they are willing to go to scam. I was talking to another buddy of mine from here and he *confirmed* that she used the same sob story about it being her "nieces birthday" that day (days earlier) and trying to negotiate with him a very specific $270 LOL. He clocked the bullshit immediately. I didn't because she didn't ask for the money up front via text, only when we were close to the hotel and she was like "actually I have to do this thing" which led to the whole mess.

I realized I blocked her on seeking and didn't save her pic but I got her main photo from my email. Fellas take a look and avoid this ***** like the plague. Women are master manipulators.

[Shampoo55]

This girl pulled off a stunt Friday that reminded me of similar stories I have read here where she seems fine, asks for a ride, chats you up and at the last minute demands the payment without having done a damn thing. This starts an argument that just goes in circles with her refusing to leave my car and I even offer her a couple bucks for her time. She's insisting her clearly bullshit story is true. "It's my nieces birthday tomorrow but this friend of mine said he'd do me the favor of getting the stuff and he can't meet later because his wife is a *****" LOL.

Sorry this happened to you. Doesn't sound like a Sugar baby, more of an escort related scammer.

Now not being critical, but I had to learn this "no money upfront" the hard way too. In fact, for the edification of lurkers or those who are new, I'll reference "the rules" which apply to escorts and equally to SBs. Some techniques for not paying up front in that thread.

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...s-For-BackPage

So when a girl pulls a stunt like that, first stay calm and don't get physical. The advice with Streetwalkers is to have a roll of fake bills accessible and toss those out the window so the girl goes after the money. "OK, here's you money, go get it!" Might not work with a SB, however. But I have had something similar happen to me. One time I drove to a busy gas station, got out of the car and walked around and opened the passenger door and stated loudly, "Please get out of my car. " I had to repeat that several times, increasing the volume until other people at the gas station took notice and some White Knight piped up and said something and she got out of the car.

Another time, I stopped and did the same thing and some dude stopped in front of me. He got out, identified himself as an off duty LE officer, pointing to the badge on his license plate. He told the woman that IF I wanted her out of my car she had to exit the car. She eventually got out.

Gas station, police station or somewhere in view of a security camera might be good too. Get her exiting the car in good shape in case she claims battery later.

Now as far as a girl leaving a purse or something as "collateral" DON'T DO IT! Purse could be a dollar store special with worth-nothing make up in it or whatever. So what if she loses $10 of merch? She trades up, you trade down. Same thing goes for cell phones. Unless you're and expert it could be a $20 prepaid phone.

So yes, scammers will play all kinds of games, tug at your heart strings and other 'stuff' to get you to part with your money. It's gotten increasing difficult to operate in the bowl so one needs to be on their toes. While all of this stuff looks "easy", being prepared with an exit plan at all times is valuable.

Again, sorry for your bad experience! Hang in there! With experience and knowledge one is better able to stay safe! Good luck!

[HenryT458]

WarmQueen.

Exchanged messages with her a couple years ago. Quite real and very pretty. Knows what this is about but wanted $800. Countered with $400 which was rejected and ended the conversation. She disappeared for a while, but resurfaced recently (AFAIK). Maybe she's recalibrated her expectations?

https://members.seeking.com/member/1...e-d50aefad67a1

I've met her. Cute. A very nice lady. 36 YO. Has 3 kids. It shows on her body once we got behind closed doors. Still, a nice shape to her but not who I want to have a long term arrangement with.

She was fun but we are not a match.

Maybe one of you gents might be a good match? Mostly available Mondays or Fridays.

[KCesar68]

This girl pulled off a stunt Friday that reminded me of similar stories I have read here where she seems fine, asks for a ride, chats you up and at the last minute demands the payment without having done a damn thing. This starts an argument that just goes in circles with her refusing to leave my car and I even offer her a couple bucks for her time.

Don't positively reinforce this behavior. Just drive to the nearest police station. You don't even need to really do anything, she either freaks out and runs or you can just tell the police, "She's a hookup but now I want her out of my car cause she's trying to scam me. " It's your car, you have every right to have her leave it.

she would leave her bag and wallet as "proof" she'd be back.

Yeah I fell for that once but it was with some craigslist girl I saw a few times back when they still allowed that kind of stuff on their site. I had no reason to think she was going to steal from me because we meet occasionally but each time it was a worse and worse meet up. Looks like her family kicked her to the curb and she went to live basically anywhere. Was ages ago and essentially the first pro I ever hung out with so. Lesson learned.

And I'm noticing that too. Way too many thieving little w h 0 re $ who want you to send money before anything. Even meeting in person for a hello. They ALWAYS have a story. This one below does that A LOT. One time with one number it was her birthday. Another time she was late on a bill of some kind. Then there was her not being able to drive over cause she needed to pay her car's insurance. Yeah, cause if you don't pay it your car instantly turns off and you cannot drive it anymore. JFC these sluts.

https://members.seeking.com/member/f...e-571f18ed04b7

Tried this other one below again. Already posted a report about her but it was long enough that she probably didn't remember me. She didn't. Takes ages to reply back. Acts like a hooker. "I want this amount for X hours and this amount for X+1 hours" nickel and diming you because she "values her time. " And yet she takes days or a week to reply. Called her out for what she is like 11 days ago, then sent a reply back JUST TODAY with her usual yadda yadda of "I found you online, I'm going to let everyone know on your FB about you" I'm using a fake number and she already tried that before where she tries to scare you by saying she found your personal info online and she's going to post your record. What a miserable life she must have that she thinks that catch-all shot in the dark is going to apply to everyone she talks to. Grade-A white trash that one.

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...a-3a46571ac40c

[Suckuhh]

Also, I remember messaging her a few weeks ago and when I saw your report I suddenly remember her replying but like others stated, one scan of her about me and I didn't want anything to do with it. Anyway, I only have like two weeks left on my sub and I luckily found something ongoing and successful so I figured I'd message her back and troll her. All I can say is she is the Rinser of all rinsers lmaoo. Rinse & repeat if I may. Anyway I'm actually certain she's unemployed and just stays home all day or maybe she does have a job in cosmetology who knows? Same ol program. Good morning texts and what not, can't use her real number so she uses her imessage. Sweet and bubbly the whole nine. Can't meet at the moment bc she's too busy this that and the third. Then the home run swing for the fences moment, her roommate didn't pay the electricity for three months and the power is out at her house and she won't be able to text me when she's home. I gave her the run around for a few days and got her hopes up LOL. It was fun. It's soo crazy the amount of woman I've encountered of the last month who just come right out and ask for money. Or the first thing out there mouth is "oh my window is broken in the car" "oh it wasn't a good week my car broke down". I will say I found a few with reasonable PPM and knew how to play things. But it took a sea of messaging and all in all, this site is a pain in theeee cheeks dealing with everything and is draining. If you have the patience for it all then by all means. But I'll be glad when my sub is up and I can rid myself of it haha. Got lucky and found what I needed for the time being and had a few laughs.

[UninhibitedFla]

This girl pulled off a stunt Friday that reminded me of similar stories I have read here where she seems fine, asks for a ride, chats you up and at the last minute demands the payment without having done a damn thing. This starts an argument that just goes in circles with her refusing to leave my car and I even offer her a couple bucks for her time. She's insisting her clearly bullshit story is true. "It's my nieces birthday tomorrow but this friend of mine said he'd do me the favor of getting the stuff and he can't meet later because his wife is a *****" LOL.

Refused my offer of taking her myself to get the stuff, refused to send the money after we reach the hotel and did our thing, refused all other logical options and of course meeting this random guy in the wawa parking lot first was the only way because "he had her ID card" . What the fuck did that have to do with anything? Just one weird convenient excuse after another to push the scam in her direction. She finally slipped and offered to talk to him for part of the money at least and told me to wait in the car and that she would leave her bag and wallet as "proof" she'd be back.

This was the detail that reminded me of the other stories where a girl would leave either an empty bag or one full of junk. This was indeed junk. I play along but insist I wait across the street and not in the parking lot. I distract her by asking her to grab me something inside the wawa and use this chance to throw her bag out my window and speed off. Block her. Of course she has another number she's harassing me off of LOL. I told her where I left her shit and wished her the best.

I can't fucking stand these thieves. Ironically were the same age and interesting how radically different our lives are. Be careful out there fellas. Her body is decent but she is not as cute. Never believe a word these scammers say.

https://members.seeking.com/member/4...?locale=en_USS

Glad you made out ok. Personally I stay away from those who have all filtered photos because you really don't know what you're going to meet in real life. I think that holds true for physical appearance and mental state of mind.

[Suckuhh]

This girl pulled off a stunt Friday that reminded me of similar stories I have read here where she seems fine, asks for a ride, chats you up and at the last minute demands the payment without having done a damn thing. This starts an argument that just goes in circles with her refusing to leave my car and I even offer her a couple bucks for her time. She's insisting her clearly bullshit story is true. "It's my nieces birthday tomorrow but this friend of mine said he'd do me the favor of getting the stuff and he can't meet later because his wife is a *****" LOL.

Refused my offer of taking her myself to get the stuff, refused to send the money after we reach the hotel and did our thing, refused all other logical options and of course meeting this random guy in the wawa parking lot first was the only way because "he had her ID card" . What the fuck did that have to do with anything? Just one weird convenient excuse after another to push the scam in her direction. She finally slipped and offered to talk to him for part of the money at least and told me to wait in the car and that she would leave her bag and wallet as "proof" she'd be back.

This was the detail that reminded me of the other stories where a girl would leave either an empty bag or one full of junk. This was indeed junk. I play along but insist I wait across the street and not in the parking lot. I distract her by asking her to grab me something inside the wawa and use this chance to throw her bag out my window and speed off. Block her. Of course she has another number she's harassing me off of LOL. I told her where I left her shit and wished her the best.

I can't fucking stand these thieves. Ironically were the same age and interesting how radically different our lives are. Be careful out there fellas. Her body is decent but she is not as cute. Never believe a word these scammers say.

https://members.seeking.com/member/4...?locale=en_USS

Damn dude you got some crazy situations!! I just don't understand why these girls can't go through on their half of the bargain and get paid. I thought the scams and snatch and dash were more of a STG thing but I guess there's desperation everywhere.

[WaltoDerri267]

This girl pulled off a stunt Friday that reminded me of similar stories I have read here where she seems fine, asks for a ride, chats you up and at the last minute demands the payment without having done a damn thing. This starts an argument that just goes in circles with her refusing to leave my car and I even offer her a couple bucks for her time. She's insisting her clearly bullshit story is true. "It's my nieces birthday tomorrow but this friend of mine said he'd do me the favor of getting the stuff and he can't meet later because his wife is a *****" LOL.

Refused my offer of taking her myself to get the stuff, refused to send the money after we reach the hotel and did our thing, refused all other logical options and of course meeting this random guy in the wawa parking lot first was the only way because "he had her ID card" . What the fuck did that have to do with anything? Just one weird convenient excuse after another to push the scam in her direction. She finally slipped and offered to talk to him for part of the money at least and told me to wait in the car and that she would leave her bag and wallet as "proof" she'd be back.

This was the detail that reminded me of the other stories where a girl would leave either an empty bag or one full of junk. This was indeed junk. I play along but insist I wait across the street and not in the parking lot. I distract her by asking her to grab me something inside the wawa and use this chance to throw her bag out my window and speed off. Block her. Of course she has another number she's harassing me off of LOL. I told her where I left her shit and wished her the best.

I can't fucking stand these thieves. Ironically were the same age and interesting how radically different our lives are. Be careful out there fellas. Her body is decent but she is not as cute. Never believe a word these scammers say.

https://members.seeking.com/member/4...?locale=en_USS

[UsaBlinkGuy11]

So famous that you don't have a name to give?

https://members.seeking.com/member/b...1-1085a887e963

Same as Gia from eros. So she's a pro. Lives by the crappy parts of West NJ south of Cherry Hill. Huge tits but unimpressive anything else. Including performance. Expects extra for GFE. At least she doesn't ask for a lot. But that was on Eros. She might get SB fever.

She gives terrible service?

Lame, such a buzzkill when they do that.

Guys, the days of crusing the site for 1 month is over with. Its gnna take 2-3 months to find something decent and it will be older.

Yes, that is the case now.

[LolBoat]

You are preaching truth Boatie. My recent experience confirms these sentiments.

It's still good if you can travel and or are mobile. Its not the same!

[HenryT458]

Guys, the days of crusing the site for 1 month is over with. Its gnna take 2-3 months to find something decent and it will be older.

You are preaching truth Boatie. My recent experience confirms these sentiments.

[HankScorpio]

So famous that you don't have a name to give?

https://members.seeking.com/member/b...1-1085a887e963

Same as Gia from eros. So she's a pro. Lives by the crappy parts of West NJ south of Cherry Hill. Huge tits but unimpressive anything else. Including performance. Expects extra for GFE. At least she doesn't ask for a lot. But that was on Eros. She might get SB fever.

Famous enough that I recognized her face. Not so famous that I knew her name off the top of my head.

One of her aliases is eevee frost. You can google it and get tons of hits. She tries to keep a low profile these days and I think she is going into some type of academic psychology or something like that.

And she is moving away from adult work.

[LolBoat]

Guys, the days of crusing the site for 1 month is over with. Its gnna take 2-3 months to find something decent and it will be older.

[KCesar68]

https://members.seeking.com/member/9...1-ac9f9e0da002

Serious GPS on her. Seven and a half benis. I played along to get her number. She's just a step or two above Karen material but she's a lunatic if she thinks she deserves that much for an almost 40 year-old. Won't negotiate.

https://members.seeking.com/member/4...f-66be5217b0c6

Newer to all this. A tad chubby but not unattractively so. Is big on getting tested so you better be willing to do so. I get those regularly so she was happy to meet for a walk around the park to introduce ourselves. Allowance type who "doesn't want to work" so yeah. Basically a moocher. If you have the pockets, I guess she's young enough and doesn't have a big ego, at least not outwardly. Has some baggage too, but no kids, so that's a plus. I suppose one of you will be lucky enough to catch her when she stops pipe dreaming about the amount.