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[Taliesin92]

Is it harder for non-Koreans to get into Sesang?

Doubt it. All they care about is green. I am a non-Korean and I had no trouble getting in. Just gave a few references. Pretty fly, for a white guy?

[InternDavid]

Is it harder for non-Koreans to get into Sesang?

[Taliesin92]

I wrote an electronics guide for those taking pictures and videos...

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...91#post6978391.

That's actually very helpful! Hadn't read it before. Good stuff.

[Taliesin92]

Are burner phones even a burner if you keep it anywhere inside your home and use it more than once? I'm actually curious LOL.

Nothing provides 100% protection. Not even condoms. LOL! Burner phones can be traced, and even triangulated against your real phone, in order to locate you — IF somebody with the resources, the smarts, and the desire really wants to track you down. But the way I see it, a burner phone is just one more hurdle that the cops (or anyone else) would need to jump over before they can determine your real identity. I like having some type of barrier (even an imperfect one) between me and my real life. No agency or booker can ever threaten me in any way, because all they have is a throw-away phone number.

Keep in mind, I'm not married, so I don't have to worry about the wife finding my burner phone (ala Breaking Bad, when Walter White got nailed by his wife). That's not a concern for me, so I keep it at home. If I was married, I would keep it in a locked drawer in my office, or a locked safe box in my car, or a locked safe in my locked storage unit.

As for your PII being used against you by the cops, I'll bet a free k-girl session that that is exactly what will happen in the Tyson's Corner investigation, once the state and local cases play out. They already have everything they need to do it. We already know the customer names have been compromised. It's just a matter of time before they are used as bargaining chips. And, yes, it has played out that way in many other cases over the years. Uncle LEO loves to follow the same playbook because it's so easy.

The fact is, the authorities do care about more than just cross-state human trafficking. These days, our "woke" DAs believe that the working girls are the true victims, and their male customers are the actual criminals who are exploiting these poor, helpless women. That was the whole basis of the infamous 2016 Seattle bust. That theory is also widely believed throughout the USA And Europe. According to them, we are the bad guys.

So, again, my advice is, if you want to protect yourself, there are steps you can take. They aren't fool proof, but they are better than nothing. The more you have to lose, the more you should consider at least trying to obscure your real identity. There are many guys today who regret not doing it, because they got exposed. I know some of them personally and I've tried to learn from their mistakes.

On the other hand, if you're not married, no kids, self-employed, etc, and you just don't care about the threat of being publicly exposed someday, then you don't need to bother with any of this stuff. And I envy your lifestyle!

[TD Leafs]

Nali is definitely not Daisy unless Daisy lost 30 pounds and came back. Nali is a spinner and thin. Daisy was short and chunky.

When Daisy came back she lost quite bit weight and I would def call her spinner.

Even when Daisy first started, I would never call Daisy chunky.

[FreeWally]

Are burner phones even a burner if you keep it anywhere inside your home and use it more than once? I'm actually curious LOL.

I guess it matters your purpose. For many people the SO is a higher priority than anything. I have always said LE is not even the top 3 dangers for a lot of people.

I don't have a lot of reasons but relatives borrow my phone and PC freely so I wrote an electronics guide for those taking pictures and videos (ex. jgirls):

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...91#post6978391.

It will only help for casual (but common) use cases. I show my coworkers things on my phone all the time. I have no problem not slipping up ever, but they have!

[Valley6]

The affidavit spells it out. Investigators had the place on surveillance and even noticed that government employees were customers. It turns out they were using government issued phones, so they seized them without even a warrant. You can seen screenshots in the affidavit below. They had all this info before they made any arrest. That's why when they passed their evidence to state officials, there were so few people. 20 plus customers. Rather than thousands. They had this list before the first arrest was even made. You can read it yourself here:

https://www.justice.gov/d9/2023-11/u...t_redacted.pdf

Note that the feds are interested in trafficking, i.e. transporting women and money over state lines. The initial charges were wire fraud. The feds had a press conference saying they cannot prosecute prostitution, it's not illegal federally. What they did was hand over their evidence to state officials, who could according to each states' laws. The state has used that evidence but is in no position to offer any plea deal for federal crimes. Nor would the feds give any lenience to federal crimes for non-federal crimes. They're separate cases run in parallel.

Just to be clear, all of this is public info and the court process is public. No plea has been given and in past cases like this it is unlikely. The feds already have everything they want. The state cases otoh are different and remains to be seen..

The case at the state level is still on going and has not closed yet. There is quite significant damage to many peoples already. They initially planed to do public hearing and more than twenty peoples might need to show up on court. Those peoples who are facing public hearing hired lawyers and fight for it, now I heard that the court has postponed the case and we still don't know what's the final decisions.

[SsStuntCock]

Nali is definitely not Daisy unless Daisy lost 30 pounds and came back. Nali is a spinner and thin. Daisy was short and chunky.

I dunno about 30 lbs, but yes she did the opposite of what OG Dana did regarding her weight. And no, this IG influencer is not her, but might as well be.

IG: insta_tatata_ta.

[FreeWally]

Yikes. Well, what's done is done I guess. I long have resigned that I would be rolling the dice with this sort of stuff. All in all, If I found out an employee or colleague of mine caught a case for soliciting one of these fine ladies, I wouldn't give two shits. Crazy they care about this sort of stuff when there are actual criminals out there.

The case all started from an informant years ago. A SW granted a visa in exchange for cooperation, rather than be deported (there is a special anti-trafficking law that allows for exactly this exemption). The feds want to win cases, so they had her ask around her past contacts and eventually got a lead. The crucial point about the lead is it crossed state lines, because it turned into a wire fraud case since that was much easier to prove.The feds do not investigate prostitution, it's not their jurisdiction and not illegal federally. They don't win or get any credit for that. They are interested in inter-state trafficking and related crimes like wire fraud.

State and city officials don't have that kind of time and resources. In California the law's actually gotten more lenient which is why you see more streetwalkers than before. It was an important change because previous anti-loitering laws were repealed because police were harassing innocent women just for standing around dressed nicely - a civil rights issue. Prostitution is also a misdemeanor in CA compared to a felony in many states on the East coast. And as you can see from my posts in the COI thread, in some cities they just don't care so SW gravitate there. Most of the strip clubs in COI are non-stop fuck fests in the VIP, have been for decades. The police do raids on clubs for drugs and weapons rather than that. They could hardly be bothered about people having fun, there are actual emergencies going on in the city.

In general it is going to be local PD that handles it rather than state, so it is going to vary a lot from city to city. There is also no cooperation between cities unless the state steps in for some reason. Like drugs, they are only looking at a drop in the bucket anyways. That's why they hold press conferences and move on after.

[PogeyBait]

The affidavit spells it out. Investigators had the place on surveillance and even noticed that government employees were customers. It turns out they were using government issued phones, so they seized them without even a warrant. You can seen screenshots in the affidavit below. They had all this info before they made any arrest. That's why when they passed their evidence to state officials, there were so few people. 20 plus customers. Rather than thousands. They had this list before the first arrest was even made. You can read it yourself here:

https://www.justice.gov/d9/2023-11/u...t_redacted.pdf

Note that the feds are interested in trafficking, i.e. transporting women and money over state lines. The initial charges were wire fraud. The feds had a press conference saying they cannot prosecute prostitution, it's not illegal federally. What they did was hand over their evidence to state officials, who could according to each states' laws. The state has used that evidence but is in no position to offer any plea deal for federal crimes. Nor would the feds give any lenience to federal crimes for non-federal crimes. They're separate cases run in parallel.

Just to be clear, all of this is public info and the court process is public. No plea has been given and in past cases like this it is unlikely. The feds already have everything they want. The state cases otoh are different and remains to be seen. It's unlikely they are using a "collection of id photos", that would be quickly dismissed for lack of evidence and not be taken seriously by prosecutors or the judge. Rather they are probably telling the truth and using evidence from surveillance.

Yikes. Well, what's done is done I guess. I long have resigned that I would be rolling the dice with this sort of stuff. All in all, If I found out an employee or colleague of mine caught a case for soliciting one of these fine ladies, I wouldn't give two shits. Crazy they care about this sort of stuff when there are actual criminals out there.

[PogeyBait]

Is Nora the one with the big scar on her belly?

She does. Not super terrible tbh but yes, most likely from a C-section I suspect.

[FreeWally]

No, it's not safe to give out your PII. If you care about your job, your wife (or SO), your kids, your civvie friends, then don't take that risk. Every agency will tell you they don't keep your info on file. That's a lie. They always keep it. They know, if they ever get busted, they can give the cops your info, and the info of all their other known clients, in order to reduce their own sentence. That exact scenario has happened many times in the past. The bust in Tyson's Corner, Virginia, is just the latest example.

The affidavit spells it out. Investigators had the place on surveillance and even noticed that government employees were customers. It turns out they were using government issued phones, so they seized them without even a warrant. You can seen screenshots in the affidavit below. They had all this info before they made any arrest. That's why when they passed their evidence to state officials, there were so few people. 20 plus customers. Rather than thousands. They had this list before the first arrest was even made. You can read it yourself here:

https://www.justice.gov/d9/2023-11/u...t_redacted.pdf

Note that the feds are interested in trafficking, i.e. transporting women and money over state lines. The initial charges were wire fraud. The feds had a press conference saying they cannot prosecute prostitution, it's not illegal federally. What they did was hand over their evidence to state officials, who could according to each states' laws. The state has used that evidence but is in no position to offer any plea deal for federal crimes. Nor would the feds give any lenience to federal crimes for non-federal crimes. They're separate cases run in parallel.

Just to be clear, all of this is public info and the court process is public. No plea has been given and in past cases like this it is unlikely. The feds already have everything they want. The state cases otoh are different and remains to be seen. It's unlikely they are using a "collection of id photos", that would be dismissed for lack of evidence and not be taken seriously by prosecutors or the judge. Rather they are probably telling the truth and using evidence from surveillance. It remains to be seen if even that is enough, most state and city cases don't make it to trial as they are going to pick the strongest cases to bring to trial.

[HiKeke]

No, it's not safe to give out your PII. If you care about your job, your wife (or SO), your kids, your civvie friends, then don't take that risk. Every agency will tell you they don't keep your info on file. That's a lie. They always keep it. They know, if they ever get busted, they can give the cops your info, and the info of all their other known clients, in order to reduce their own sentence. That exact scenario has happened many times in the past. The bust in Tyson's Corner, Virginia, is just the latest example.

There are many other ways to get through the door without giving up your PII. They just require a little bit more work. Some of them have been written about in this forum over time. Keep searching old posts. I've never given up my info and I never will. Too risky.

By the way, if you're not already, it's also a good idea to use a VPN to encrypt your internet activity and a burner phone to communicate with the bookers. As I always say: If the cops really want to find you, they will. But there's no reason to make it easy for them!

Are burner phones even a burner if you keep it anywhere inside your home and use it more than once? I'm actually curious LOL.

[PumpNDump]

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[Taliesin92]

Is screening safe? I'm hesitant to give out so much personal info. I understand it's a two way street but I cannot afford having my information out there as many people know me and it's too huge a risk.

No, it's not safe to give out your PII. If you care about your job, your wife (or SO), your kids, your civvie friends, then don't take that risk. Every agency will tell you they don't keep your info on file. That's a lie. They always keep it. They know, if they ever get busted, they can give the cops your info, and the info of all their other known clients, in order to reduce their own sentence. That exact scenario has happened many times in the past. The bust in Tyson's Corner, Virginia, is just the latest example.

There are many other ways to get through the door without giving up your PII. They just require a little bit more work. Some of them have been written about in this forum over time. Keep searching old posts. I've never given up my info and I never will. Too risky.

By the way, if you're not already, it's also a good idea to use a VPN to encrypt your internet activity and a burner phone to communicate with the bookers. As I always say: If the cops really want to find you, they will. But there's no reason to make it easy for them!