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  1. #43259
    Quote Originally Posted by PogeyBait  [View Original Post]
    Yikes. Well, what's done is done I guess. I long have resigned that I would be rolling the dice with this sort of stuff. All in all, If I found out an employee or colleague of mine caught a case for soliciting one of these fine ladies, I wouldn't give two shits. Crazy they care about this sort of stuff when there are actual criminals out there.
    The case all started from an informant years ago. A SW granted a visa in exchange for cooperation, rather than be deported (there is a special anti-trafficking law that allows for exactly this exemption). The feds want to win cases, so they had her ask around her past contacts and eventually got a lead. The crucial point about the lead is it crossed state lines, because it turned into a wire fraud case since that was much easier to prove.The feds do not investigate prostitution, it's not their jurisdiction and not illegal federally. They don't win or get any credit for that. They are interested in inter-state trafficking and related crimes like wire fraud.

    State and city officials don't have that kind of time and resources. In California the law's actually gotten more lenient which is why you see more streetwalkers than before. It was an important change because previous anti-loitering laws were repealed because police were harassing innocent women just for standing around dressed nicely - a civil rights issue. Prostitution is also a misdemeanor in CA compared to a felony in many states on the East coast. And as you can see from my posts in the COI thread, in some cities they just don't care so SW gravitate there. Most of the strip clubs in COI are non-stop fuck fests in the VIP, have been for decades. The police do raids on clubs for drugs and weapons rather than that. They could hardly be bothered about people having fun, there are actual emergencies going on in the city.

    In general it is going to be local PD that handles it rather than state, so it is going to vary a lot from city to city. There is also no cooperation between cities unless the state steps in for some reason. Like drugs, they are only looking at a drop in the bucket anyways. That's why they hold press conferences and move on after.

  2. #43258
    Quote Originally Posted by FreeWally  [View Original Post]
    The affidavit spells it out. Investigators had the place on surveillance and even noticed that government employees were customers. It turns out they were using government issued phones, so they seized them without even a warrant. You can seen screenshots in the affidavit below. They had all this info before they made any arrest. That's why when they passed their evidence to state officials, there were so few people. 20 plus customers. Rather than thousands. They had this list before the first arrest was even made. You can read it yourself here:

    https://www.justice.gov/d9/2023-11/u...t_redacted.pdf

    Note that the feds are interested in trafficking, i.e. transporting women and money over state lines. The initial charges were wire fraud. The feds had a press conference saying they cannot prosecute prostitution, it's not illegal federally. What they did was hand over their evidence to state officials, who could according to each states' laws. The state has used that evidence but is in no position to offer any plea deal for federal crimes. Nor would the feds give any lenience to federal crimes for non-federal crimes. They're separate cases run in parallel.

    Just to be clear, all of this is public info and the court process is public. No plea has been given and in past cases like this it is unlikely. The feds already have everything they want. The state cases otoh are different and remains to be seen. It's unlikely they are using a "collection of id photos", that would be quickly dismissed for lack of evidence and not be taken seriously by prosecutors or the judge. Rather they are probably telling the truth and using evidence from surveillance.
    Yikes. Well, what's done is done I guess. I long have resigned that I would be rolling the dice with this sort of stuff. All in all, If I found out an employee or colleague of mine caught a case for soliciting one of these fine ladies, I wouldn't give two shits. Crazy they care about this sort of stuff when there are actual criminals out there.

  3. #43257
    Quote Originally Posted by RockItAllNite  [View Original Post]
    Is Nora the one with the big scar on her belly?
    She does. Not super terrible tbh but yes, most likely from a C-section I suspect.

  4. #43256
    Quote Originally Posted by Taliesin92  [View Original Post]
    No, it's not safe to give out your PII. If you care about your job, your wife (or SO), your kids, your civvie friends, then don't take that risk. Every agency will tell you they don't keep your info on file. That's a lie. They always keep it. They know, if they ever get busted, they can give the cops your info, and the info of all their other known clients, in order to reduce their own sentence. That exact scenario has happened many times in the past. The bust in Tyson's Corner, Virginia, is just the latest example.
    The affidavit spells it out. Investigators had the place on surveillance and even noticed that government employees were customers. It turns out they were using government issued phones, so they seized them without even a warrant. You can seen screenshots in the affidavit below. They had all this info before they made any arrest. That's why when they passed their evidence to state officials, there were so few people. 20 plus customers. Rather than thousands. They had this list before the first arrest was even made. You can read it yourself here:

    https://www.justice.gov/d9/2023-11/u...t_redacted.pdf

    Note that the feds are interested in trafficking, i.e. transporting women and money over state lines. The initial charges were wire fraud. The feds had a press conference saying they cannot prosecute prostitution, it's not illegal federally. What they did was hand over their evidence to state officials, who could according to each states' laws. The state has used that evidence but is in no position to offer any plea deal for federal crimes. Nor would the feds give any lenience to federal crimes for non-federal crimes. They're separate cases run in parallel.

    Just to be clear, all of this is public info and the court process is public. No plea has been given and in past cases like this it is unlikely. The feds already have everything they want. The state cases otoh are different and remains to be seen. It's unlikely they are using a "collection of id photos", that would be dismissed for lack of evidence and not be taken seriously by prosecutors or the judge. Rather they are probably telling the truth and using evidence from surveillance. It remains to be seen if even that is enough, most state and city cases don't make it to trial as they are going to pick the strongest cases to bring to trial.

  5. #43255
    Quote Originally Posted by Taliesin92  [View Original Post]
    No, it's not safe to give out your PII. If you care about your job, your wife (or SO), your kids, your civvie friends, then don't take that risk. Every agency will tell you they don't keep your info on file. That's a lie. They always keep it. They know, if they ever get busted, they can give the cops your info, and the info of all their other known clients, in order to reduce their own sentence. That exact scenario has happened many times in the past. The bust in Tyson's Corner, Virginia, is just the latest example.

    There are many other ways to get through the door without giving up your PII. They just require a little bit more work. Some of them have been written about in this forum over time. Keep searching old posts. I've never given up my info and I never will. Too risky.

    By the way, if you're not already, it's also a good idea to use a VPN to encrypt your internet activity and a burner phone to communicate with the bookers. As I always say: If the cops really want to find you, they will. But there's no reason to make it easy for them!
    Are burner phones even a burner if you keep it anywhere inside your home and use it more than once? I'm actually curious LOL.

  6. #43254
    Kbliss Friday activity partners.

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  7. #43253

    Personally identifying information

    Quote Originally Posted by SGHunter69  [View Original Post]
    Is screening safe? I'm hesitant to give out so much personal info. I understand it's a two way street but I cannot afford having my information out there as many people know me and it's too huge a risk.
    No, it's not safe to give out your PII. If you care about your job, your wife (or SO), your kids, your civvie friends, then don't take that risk. Every agency will tell you they don't keep your info on file. That's a lie. They always keep it. They know, if they ever get busted, they can give the cops your info, and the info of all their other known clients, in order to reduce their own sentence. That exact scenario has happened many times in the past. The bust in Tyson's Corner, Virginia, is just the latest example.

    There are many other ways to get through the door without giving up your PII. They just require a little bit more work. Some of them have been written about in this forum over time. Keep searching old posts. I've never given up my info and I never will. Too risky.

    By the way, if you're not already, it's also a good idea to use a VPN to encrypt your internet activity and a burner phone to communicate with the bookers. As I always say: If the cops really want to find you, they will. But there's no reason to make it easy for them!

  8. #43252
    Quote Originally Posted by PogeyBait  [View Original Post]
    TOFFT on the duo with a report. I just got done seeing Dallas after my earlier session with Nora. Both are pretty hot and skew younger, especially Nora. Dunno if I have the scratch to do the duo but its nice to live vicariously every now and again.
    Is Nora the one with the big scar on her belly?

  9. #43251
    Quote Originally Posted by SGHunter69  [View Original Post]
    Is screening safe? I'm hesitant to give out so much personal info. I understand it's a two way street but I cannot afford having my information out there as many people know me and it's too huge a risk.

    Are there any agencies that don't require you to give out everything short of SSN?
    There is a long way around that is harder but solves this. Some agencies will take HX network. I saw 2 independent providers to get my first ratings, then used that to get into one kgirl agency, then used the network from that to get into the tougher to screen kgirl agency. Now it's easy because a new agency can log in and see I've used 2 or 3 other kgirl agencies for 11+ years. I've used HX 13 years total. Obviously if I ever had a problem I'd get a safety rating on my network, so this also means I've used it those 13 years without a single problem. Since I have a perfect score, and in the same way I only see girls with a perfect score.

    A few of my posts on HX:

    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post6986519.

    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post6962775.

    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post6962306.

    There are a few more but others have written about the topic too, in particular buying an online Walmart gift card, getting the code by e-mail, and using it on HX to unlock the ability to send messages. As I said, this is actually the hard way. The easy way is to just give them your info. But since I know others in the same situation, I've written this out.

    All in all, I've screened 4 agencies this way, with the 5th being because I used an affiliated booker in another city (i.e. same agency group but different city), and with the 6th being because I knew the girl and booked her through her new booker. Some agencies however really want your info so you just have to play by their rules. But I prefer to pass on that. Each person has to make their own call on this.

  10. #43250
    If the measurements are accurate, this new Hari is probably not Tulip. I saw Tulip and can confirm her tits are proper Cs. Beautifully done too.

  11. #43249

    Dope Jene is a good?

    Hello I recently have been looking at Dope Jane it says she does massage table with prostate massage.

    I'm curious to see if it was worth it!? So if you have tried please let me know. $3. Is steep for a milk session.

  12. #43248
    Quote Originally Posted by PogeyBait  [View Original Post]
    Mayaaaaa. She's slept on by a large margin imo. I prefer JY's rack over Maya's but I agree. Maya is built for this sort this work with an ass like that. Ask her to sit on your face every now and again. You may die, you may have pussy juice running down the side of your mouth. Either way, you're leaving the session a happy dude LOL.
    Love how wet she gets she's my fav chick to eat out by far!

  13. #43247

    No idea on personal info

    Quote Originally Posted by SGHunter69  [View Original Post]
    Is screening safe? I'm hesitant to give out so much personal info. I understand it's a two way street but I cannot afford having my information out there as many people know me and it's too huge a risk.

    Are there any agencies that don't require you to give out everything short of SSN?
    Of course, much safer to not give it out. So far, I don't recall any reports of identity theft, black mail or anything else being mentioned in connection to these bookers having various pieces of info.

    Probably as close as it comes, the bust that happened cross country, was it Tysons Corner? Somewhere in that area. LE busted, got a list of some customers. Don't recall any of those speaking up and saying LE reached out.

    Sure, there were some higher profile folks, that wouldn't share their stories here.

    Think if you are a regular guy, you won't have to do it so many times, its probably alright. No one likes doing this, but it is part of the current procedure.

    I'd redact, as much as you can. They will tell you if they want additional info. Think, long ago, a pic of my drivers license, with everything aside from my 1st name and picture was covered. That was fine with the one I cleared with. YMMV.

  14. #43246
    Quote Originally Posted by AsianAssEater  [View Original Post]
    Yeah her ass is nice and juicy I tore that shi up in doggy upstairs neighbor prob heard the claps and her screams. She's also down to get off herself I got used as a human dildo until she got off. It's her in the pictures but it's a lot and I mean a lot of P.S. Great addition to wla service queen and mag approved.

    New ranking for me is.

    1. Maya.

    2. Monica.

    3. Jiyoung.

    Will be trying Kate next since I heard she gets nice and creamy.

    P.S.: stop pming me if she's young and hot. You should know by now I don't see young chicks because their service sucks and they run away.
    Mayaaaaa. She's slept on by a large margin imo. I prefer JY's rack over Maya's but I agree. Maya is built for this sort this work with an ass like that. Ask her to sit on your face every now and again. You may die, you may have pussy juice running down the side of your mouth. Either way, you're leaving the session a happy dude LOL.

  15. #43245
    Quote Originally Posted by SGHunter69  [View Original Post]
    Is screening safe? I'm hesitant to give out so much personal info. I understand it's a two way street but I cannot afford having my information out there as many people know me and it's too huge a risk.

    Are there any agencies that don't require you to give out everything short of SSN?
    Some. I think I didn't have to with GKS if I remember correctly. I gave a shit ton of references though and I'm a frequent flyer at most of the agencies so that may have played a part. If you want, I would go on rentry. Co / kgirls and send a message to the agencies you're interested in and see what sticks. At the very least though, if you want to dabble in the dark side, a selfie with the DL seems to be the bare minimum so be prepared.

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