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  1. #36588

    Hookers enjoy sex. Wives enjoy love.

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRoomDaddy  [View Original Post]
    I think there are shades of gray. A woman may not be hot for sex, but she is ok with it. And if she can make as much in 1 day, as she can in a week doing nails, that tips the balance. So several motivations may blend within a single woman.

    Regarding wives, hopefully there is love, but in many cultures, marriages are arranged to some extent, or people marry because of tremendous parental pressure to have kids. Or they may force themselves so they are not considered Christmas cookies (no one wants them after the 25th). So this might explain why they are not enjoying sex that much. Also, in a marriage a guy might just do mish, but the same guy when he visits the house of ill repute might want the wild stuff he doesn't do at home.

    In general, many blurred rationales. I think the mature view from our point of view. Is that any notion of bonding with a sex worker, or getting high on her sexual response is going to ultimately be a heart breaker. We should try to keep it as professional as they do, and avoid catching any feelings.
    Dark Room, you hit the nail on the head.

    Even in cultures where marriages are arranged, couples should and do learn to love. This has little to do with sex after the first few years of marriage. Sharing the challenges of life and especially of children, bond the couple together. After the children are gone, there should remain a friendship that allows both parties to fuck as many other people as they wish. Unfortunately, it seldom ends this way.

    I agree that relationships with sex workers rarely evolve into successful long-term partnerships. There has to be much much more than "She certainly knows how to rim my ass. " to build a long friendship and a family.

    Hope others will chime in here.

  2. #36587

    For the money, for the pleasure or both?

    Quote Originally Posted by McNutties  [View Original Post]
    Many good points here.

    All of girls doing this work are simply in it for the money. Now are there instances were there is sexual attraction and on their end toward a favorite, handsome, or charming client for sure. I have heard girls go on dates with clients, go party with clients, even start relationships, or they find a sugar daddy who has plenty of money to splurge on them.

    But I am sure many of us can attest to amazing hot sessions and others where the girl is as cold as ice and has the look they wish they were anywhere else. Its always a mixed bag. I think guys will find what they are looking like some may want the chick offering everything physical whereas maybe others want the girl that is going to talk to them and make more of a mental or emotional connection.

    Some girls do have more of a sexual drive than others or are more open to different things whereas maybe a significant other just like occasional or only one thing. From my point of view that is just as much a reflection of you for choosing them as it is for the other person. Relationships always change some for the better and some for the worse..
    Mc Nutty, you make some good points.

    A woman's sexuality is more due to her biology and psychology than to that of her partner. Women, like men, can and do have sex with their hands in rooms, all alone. Most research suggests that women masturbate about as often as we men do. Some women masturbate many times in a day; some once a week, some once a year, and a few never. The higher libido women, who often masturbate are more likely to work in the sex industry than those who seldom or never masturbate.

    So, when hookers have sex with their clients, their enjoyment depends much more on their own mood and sex drive than it does on the charm and good looks of the john. Unlike men, women's libido follows the cycle of ovulation. It is more robust mid-cycle. If you encounter a lady in mid-cycle on the morning after her day off, especially if she did not masturbate for 24 hours, she is much more likely to enjoy an orgasm when you lick her rosebud.

    Again my favorite video:

    Mc Nutty, you make some good points.

    A woman's sexuality is more due to her biology and psychology than to that of her partner. Women, like men, can and do have sex with their hands in rooms, all alone. Most research suggests that women masturbate about as often as we men do. Some women masturbate many times in a day; some once a week, some once a year, and a few never. The higher libido women, who often masturbate are more likely to work in the sex industry than those who seldom or never masturbate.

    So, when hookers have sex with their clients, their enjoyment depends much more on their own mood and sex drive than it does on the charm and good looks of the john. Unlike men, women's libido follows the cycle of ovulation. It is more robust mid-cycle. If you encounter a lady in mid-cycle on the morning after her day off, especially if she did not masturbate for 24 hours, she is much more likely to enjoy an orgasm when you lick her rosebud.

    Again my favorite video:

    https://pornzog.com/video/13191912/h...y-party-manny/

  3. #36586
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRoomDaddy  [View Original Post]
    I think there are shades of gray. A woman may not be hot for sex, but she is ok with it. And if she can make as much in 1 day, as she can in a week doing nails, that tips the balance. So several motivations may blend within a single woman.

    Regarding wives, hopefully there is love, but in many cultures, marriages are arranged to some extent, or people marry because of tremendous parental pressure to have kids. Or they may force themselves so they are not considered Christmas cookies (no one wants them after the 25th). So this might explain why they are not enjoying sex that much. Also, in a marriage a guy might just do mish, but the same guy when he visits the house of ill repute might want the wild stuff he doesn't do at home.

    In general, many blurred rationales. I think the mature view from our point of view. Is that any notion of bonding with a sex worker, or getting high on her sexual response is going to ultimately be a heart breaker. We should try to keep it as professional as they do, and avoid catching any feelings.
    Many good points here.

    All of girls doing this work are simply in it for the money. Now are there instances were there is sexual attraction and on their end toward a favorite, handsome, or charming client for sure. I have heard girls go on dates with clients, go party with clients, even start relationships, or they find a sugar daddy who has plenty of money to splurge on them.

    But I am sure many of us can attest to amazing hot sessions and others where the girl is as cold as ice and has the look they wish they were anywhere else. Its always a mixed bag. I think guys will find what they are looking like some may want the chick offering everything physical whereas maybe others want the girl that is going to talk to them and make more of a mental or emotional connection.

    Some girls do have more of a sexual drive than others or are more open to different things whereas maybe a significant other just like occasional or only one thing. From my point of view that is just as much a reflection of you for choosing them as it is for the other person. Relationships always change some for the better and some for the worse.

    GOod luck out there ha.

  4. #36585
    Quote Originally Posted by BSouthgate  [View Original Post]
    I also agree with you regarding the difference between a wife relationship and that with a pro. The former should be based on friendship and love; the latter on lust. The comparison with a waitress is also relevant. A good waitress is pleased when her customer is enjoying his meal, not only because the customer is likely to leave a higher tip but also because she, like the excellent hooker, takes pride in her work. I lived in China for many years. It is customary in China not to tip waitresses. Yet they generally all try to please their customers, as do Chinese pros, some of whom work on salary rather than on tips.

    If you read the introduction of Larry Horse's article, https://xhamster.com/users/larryhorse, you will learn of the three theories why prostitutes enter their trade, "Hookers are Victims" theory, "Poor Hooker" theory, and the "Hookers Like Sex" theory. In my fifty years of experience frequenting the ladies of the night, I have never been aware of any woman who was a victim of trafficking or slavery; I have encountered street girls who were greatly motivated by poverty. Far more frequently, I have been with women who had chosen their careers because they enjoyed polyamorous sex. ....
    I think there are shades of gray. A woman may not be hot for sex, but she is ok with it. And if she can make as much in 1 day, as she can in a week doing nails, that tips the balance. So several motivations may blend within a single woman.

    Regarding wives, hopefully there is love, but in many cultures, marriages are arranged to some extent, or people marry because of tremendous parental pressure to have kids. Or they may force themselves so they are not considered Christmas cookies (no one wants them after the 25th). So this might explain why they are not enjoying sex that much. Also, in a marriage a guy might just do mish, but the same guy when he visits the house of ill repute might want the wild stuff he doesn't do at home.

    In general, many blurred rationales. I think the mature view from our point of view. Is that any notion of bonding with a sex worker, or getting high on her sexual response is going to ultimately be a heart breaker. We should try to keep it as professional as they do, and avoid catching any feelings.

  5. #36584
    Quote Originally Posted by LoneStar1979  [View Original Post]
    Yaya working the entire month of June. She offers Greek.

    They always have a nice crop of girls to choose from here. Can't go wrong any of these Oriental beauty's.

    Have fun out there.
    Ehh I have to say previous staff a bit better, granted yes can't go wrong as no one is ugly but looks are just average and service still better than get at most places, just wasn't feeling it with Bella looks 7. 3 / Yaya looks 6 (honestly looks are pretty similar unless eyes are deceiving me) no gorditas so that's always a plus, granted that just might be my frequent club going, where literally 60-70% of staff is unfuckable in my eyes.

  6. #36583

    Right Spa Yaya

    Second time coming here and saw Yaya last night. She is petite and pretty. Got a nice hug and took care of the donation and as I was undressing, so was she.

    Laying face down in bed, she started her 'medium' massage. She told me that given it was my first time, she'd go a little easier on me. It was perfect, the combination of the oil, her excellent massage technique and her body rubbing against me had me on cloud 9. Not a single area was missed, she even made it a point to bring my arm, one at a time, to my back so that when she was rubbing against me my hand would get a generous serving of her tits which she encouraged me to play with.

    After all muscles were addressed, she started a very nice soft touch with her hands and nails gently going over your back, ass and taint. That soft touch had me rock hard, usually I get that on the flip. I was then flipped and as said before, she will encourage you to grab her tits and ass. Her only ask, no FIV, but free to play with her pussy as much as I wanted. I also played with her ass, with my thumb slightly pushing into it, which she didn't have any issue with. She asked me if I wanted Greek, I am not interested but Greek is on her menu.

    The BBBJ started and she definitely knows what she's doing. Perfect motion with the right amount of DT and great suction. While sucking, she moved her ass towards my face for me to grab and play with. Finally suited up and started in CG and ACG. Then switched to Mish.

    As I was getting closer and even harder, she asked me to let her know when I was going to cum so she could take it in her mouth. I couldn't hold it anymore, and she went right for it. She kept on sucking until she made sure she got the last drop, and that she did.

    Highly recommend Yaya.

  7. #36582

    Hookers vs. Wives Enjoyment of sex

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRoomDaddy  [View Original Post]
    A few flaws with this study. Hookers and wives are two mutually independent groups. (I guess there mght be a few hookers who also have sex with husbands, and that might show something, but that was not what was studied here.) Hookers may have chosen this career path because they enjoy sex to begin with. They also may have developed a greater comfort level with sex doing it 10 times a day. On the other hand, wives tend to be more conservative and higher status women, whom are cultured to not appear to enjoy sex too much. Maybe this has changed recently but generally its unsettling to a man to raise children with a woman who "can't get enough" when is away at work many hours a day. So this study is like measure the satisfaction of guys playing basketball where the two groups are guys who play at park daily, versus some tennis players who dabble iin basketball once a month. Furthermore, the study claimed that the women did not know they were being filmed which suggested they were not hamming it up, however this ignores the fact that all of these women having sex, had an audience member inches away pounding them. Thats who they were hamming it up for. And again the pro's would know that it will end much quicker if they pretend to enjoy it. Have you noticed how girls doing HJ's will make little sounds as if they are really turned on. Even though no one is touching them at all? Another advantage to the pro, is that any kind of "bonding" with a customer might lead to the guy becoming a regular customer, and raising her income..
    Thank you for this thoughtful comment, Dark Room Daddy. I agree that the study by Larry Horse has flaws. For ease of access, I again link that study here:

    https://xhamster.com/users/larryhorse

    You broadly agree with my thesis that hookers enter their profession partly because they enjoy sex and partly because it is a lucrative profession. A quote from your long comment: "Hookers may have chosen this career path because they enjoy sex to begin with. They also may have developed a greater comfort level with sex doing it 10 times a day. " Aside from Larry Horse's study published on X. Ter, many scientific reports support this thesis. Those other studies used surveys of hookers at different international locations.

    I also agree with you regarding the difference between a wife relationship and that with a pro. The former should be based on friendship and love; the latter on lust. The comparison with a waitress is also relevant. A good waitress is pleased when her customer is enjoying his meal, not only because the customer is likely to leave a higher tip but also because she, like the excellent hooker, takes pride in her work. I lived in China for many years. It is customary in China not to tip waitresses. Yet they generally all try to please their customers, as do Chinese pros, some of whom work on salary rather than on tips.

    If you read the introduction of Larry Horse's article, https://xhamster.com/users/larryhorse, you will learn of the three theories why prostitutes enter their trade, "Hookers are Victims" theory, "Poor Hooker" theory, and the "Hookers Like Sex" theory. In my fifty years of experience frequenting the ladies of the night, I have never been aware of any woman who was a victim of trafficking or slavery; I have encountered street girls who were greatly motivated by poverty. Far more frequently, I have been with women who had chosen their careers because they enjoyed polyamorous sex. For example, a 40-year-old divorcee told me that she had experienced sex a few times a week with her former husband. When he left her, she was extremely horny and frequented bars and clubs to pick up men. She had a friend who suggested that she find a job doing what she likes to do. She found such a job, and she loved it.

    This video is a kind of test of the "Hookers like sex" theory.

    https://pornzog.com/video/13191912/h...y-party-manny/

  8. #36581

    Yaya

    Rendezvous a Raiit.

    There was a 10 min wait or so. She's definitely 30-40, small tits. Hands down best DTBJ in years, who taught her to suck?

    Tip not negotiated = donated 200 mangos no questions asked. Multiple posish in cat with bbGreek finish.

    Her cat is loooose, surprisingly her ass was loose as well, a bit tighter but not by much.

    I wonder how she takes all that ass pounding all day?

    When should I get tested?

    Pulled out the banana covered in shit then yaya wipes it down with a towellete and proceeds to DT again.

    Looks 7.

    Hopefully more providers begin to offer ass, we all want it.

    Overall worth it as long as I didn't catch anything since we are on topic.

  9. #36580
    Quote Originally Posted by HoDough  [View Original Post]
    I had a Gonorrhea scare a few months back. I got a really bad case of UTI most likely after a BBBJ from a girl that had the worst breath. It had almost identical symptoms as Gonorrhea. My nuts got swollen, bladder got infected and the area below my abdomen was sore. Every time I took a piss, it felt like I was pissing out broken glass. Took 7 days of antibiotics and about month to fully clear. The doctor told me that it could have been caused by a girl with very bad hygiene, and the bacteria in her mouth or hands getting into the urethral in the penis.

    What I do now is I don't do BBBJ if the provider has bad breath. I always drink a lot of water after, so if bacteria does enter my bladder, it flushes it out soon after and either avoids the infection or minimizes it.
    You might want to inform the girl that she should get checked out, so she doesn't infect other guys. I wonder why they have not discovered breath mint technology at a bare minimum. If I was in their shoes, I would have a whole regimen of salt water, hydrogen peroxide, and Listerine to swish after each customer. Covered may not feel good as BB but you don't have to worry later.

  10. #36579

    She Blinded Me with Science. Thomas Dolby

    Quote Originally Posted by BSouthgate  [View Original Post]
    1. Do girls enjoy having sex with their clients? <snip> Thank you for reading this. I would love to get more input from my brothers.
    A few flaws with this study. Hookers and wives are two mutually independent groups. (I guess there mght be a few hookers who also have sex with husbands, and that might show something, but that was not what was studied here.) Hookers may have chosen this career path because they enjoy sex to begin with. They also may have developed a greater comfort level with sex doing it 10 times a day. On the other hand, wives tend to be more conservative and higher status women, whom are cultured to not appear to enjoy sex too much. Maybe this has changed recently but generally its unsettling to a man to raise children with a woman who "can't get enough" when is away at work many hours a day. So this study is like measure the satisfaction of guys playing basketball where the two groups are guys who play at park daily, versus some tennis players who dabble iin basketball once a month. Furthermore, the study claimed that the women did not know they were being filmed which suggested they were not hamming it up, however this ignores the fact that all of these women having sex, had an audience member inches away pounding them. Thats who they were hamming it up for. And again the pro's would know that it will end much quicker if they pretend to enjoy it. Have you noticed how girls doing HJ's will make little sounds as if they are really turned on. Even though no one is touching them at all? Another advantage to the pro, is that any kind of "bonding" with a customer might lead to the guy becoming a regular customer, and raising her income.

    Another way of looking at this is this. When you have a girlfriend or wife deeply in love, how often do they want to have sex? After a few months, its usually no more than a few times a week. Its not multiple times a day. If anything they want to talk your ear off rather than suck your dick off. Suppose those women suddenly decided to go into the lucrative hooking industry. Would they suddenly enjoy having sex 6 times a day with random strangers with whom they have no emotional connection, and for which there is usually very little foreplay or warm up?

    The thought that is making some of the hookers truly happy is making enough money in 30 minutes as her girlfriends make in a day or week doing standard work.

    Just enjoy your time, and consider it like when you go to a restaurant. When the pretty waitress smiles at you, its not because of your overwhelming masculine charm, its just a business transaction. If you saw that same woman when she gets off work in Walmart, she is probably not going to smile at you. So just enjoy the little performance and don't take it too seriously.

  11. #36578
    Quote Originally Posted by TDR923  [View Original Post]
    Hey guys,

    I know I am all late to the party but I have time and availability to finally make it out to OC tomorrow. Was wondering if Right is still worth checking out last I heard was Yaya being the MVP currently. Anyone been here recently know if she's still there or who the new girls are, or better yet where I should direct my hard earned money towards?

    Much appreciated and if you feel better Private Messaging I won't leak any of your ATFs if you don't want them out. Appreciate it, I can return the favor by giving you my list of Dancing girls here in City of Industry and their prices. If that's a hobby you are interested in joining.
    Yaya working the entire month of June. She offers Greek.

    They always have a nice crop of girls to choose from here. Can't go wrong any of these Oriental beauty's.

    Have fun out there.

  12. #36577

    Bbbj

    Quote Originally Posted by HoDough  [View Original Post]
    I had a Gonorrhea scare a few months back. I got a really bad case of UTI most likely after a BBBJ from a girl that had the worst breath. It had almost identical symptoms as Gonorrhea. My nuts got swollen, bladder got infected and the area below my abdomen was sore. Every time I took a piss, it felt like I was pissing out broken glass. Took 7 days of antibiotics and about month to fully clear. The doctor told me that it could have been caused by a girl with very bad hygiene, and the bacteria in her mouth or hands getting into the urethral in the penis.

    What I do now is I don't do BBBJ if the provider has bad breath. I always drink a lot of water after, so if bacteria does enter my bladder, it flushes it out soon after and either avoids the infection or minimizes it.
    Those are all good measures. You might try to get your doc to prescribe prophylactic Doxycycline. I hear that Bangkok docs give it to sex tourists.

  13. #36576

    Bbbj

    Quote Originally Posted by TacoManVa  [View Original Post]
    BBBJ 100 plus times each year for the last 13 years and I have never gotten one STD. So my sample size is more than 1300 for sure.

    Now I will say that I only go to high-end Korean agencies, Chinese agencies and massage parlors. I don't go down to Tijuana that's just asking for trouble.
    TJ girls must get checked once per week. They are probably safer.

    If you are concerned about this, I suggest popping a Doxycline (if you are not allergic) before visiting the massage parlor.

  14. #36575
    Quote Originally Posted by SunChild35  [View Original Post]
    Long time reader, novice to the hobby, I've got a question.

    I've been reading reports about BBBJ and keep wondering how safe is it.

    Quick search gives next estimates for STD transmission throat to penis:

    Chlamidia: 5. 6-15.6%.

    Gonorrhea: 23-43%.

    HIV: essentially 0%.

    Herpes: 10-20%.

    Syphilis: 10-30%.

    What do fellow mongers do to decrease the risk?

    Is there anything you can even do?

    Sorry if off topic here.
    I had a Gonorrhea scare a few months back. I got a really bad case of UTI most likely after a BBBJ from a girl that had the worst breath. It had almost identical symptoms as Gonorrhea. My nuts got swollen, bladder got infected and the area below my abdomen was sore. Every time I took a piss, it felt like I was pissing out broken glass. Took 7 days of antibiotics and about month to fully clear. The doctor told me that it could have been caused by a girl with very bad hygiene, and the bacteria in her mouth or hands getting into the urethral in the penis.

    What I do now is I don't do BBBJ if the provider has bad breath. I always drink a lot of water after, so if bacteria does enter my bladder, it flushes it out soon after and either avoids the infection or minimizes it.

  15. #36574

    LOL I have had.

    Quote Originally Posted by SunChild35  [View Original Post]
    Long time reader, novice to the hobby, I've got a question.

    I've been reading reports about BBBJ and keep wondering how safe is it.

    Quick search gives next estimates for STD transmission throat to penis:

    Chlamidia: 5. 6-15.6%.

    Gonorrhea: 23-43%.

    HIV: essentially 0%.

    Herpes: 10-20%.

    Syphilis: 10-30%.

    What do fellow mongers do to decrease the risk?

    Is there anything you can even do?

    Sorry if off topic here.
    BBBJ 100 plus times each year for the last 13 years and I have never gotten one STD. So my sample size is more than 1300 for sure.

    Now I will say that I only go to high-end Korean agencies, Chinese agencies and massage parlors. I don't go down to Tijuana that's just asking for trouble.

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