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[Lexx1]

You get takers at 350?? In LA?? That's impressive. Do you have to weed through a lot of no's to get that accepted?

I don't go for mid 20's and up girls usually. Also I didn't message girls that have been there for a couple months or more. You want to find young truly fresh girls to the site. A girl that has never been paid directly for sex which is a non-pro. No career sugarbabies (returning babies) or girls that have been there for a while. Older chics have more responsibilities which means they expect more. And if they've been on there a while they've been hit up by every guy already. Fresh, fresh, fresh is the key and young. And as I mentioned I'm not offering that 350 often. That's reserved only for fine as fuck girls, 9 or 10s, and they need to be ok with everything in bed. No anal is fine that's not a deal breaker. My girls range from 6s to 10s. Once in a while I'll go for a fair looking girl because she's inexpensive but at least has a great body and is freaky in bed. But that 350 isn't always offered by me. I keep it usually below that. Sometimes I can negotiate a 9 or 10 below my hard max. Just have to know how to work a negotiation.

[Lexx1]

You should definitely hang on to your SBs. 200-350 ppm are impossible to find nowadays. 15 years ago I was giving 400-500 ppm for 8's. Nowadays I'm giving 1 k-1500 ppm for the 7's and 8's not even the 9's and 10's and they're complaining it's way too low and block / ignore me LOL.

Of course I hang on to my girls. Have done so since the beginning of my journey in the nonpros / sugaring P4 P world. For me this P4 P game is the best value and bang for the buck. But the key always to maximize return is keeping the price low. If you're spending 500 and way above. In my opinion it's really not worth it. You might as well go the Korean agency route or sites like Humaniplex. You wouldn't have to be fighting trying to find new babies amongst the crap pool we have nowadays. Most of them are return babies and what I like to call career sugarbabies. Which in my mind there's another term, Prostitute. 1000 and above to me is a strict hell no! Not even 500. The reason I'm not on Seeking anymore because the young age range I like is pretty much gone. Barely one and a half pages come up in a search for 18 to 20 year olds. The fresh babies just really aren't there anymore. That's why I'm gone from Seeking. I have a stable right now of 6 girls. Latina, White and Asian. And finally a Black girl again but she's off and on.

And Seekings monthly subscription price being above 100 now is just dumb. I started when it was 70/80 without discount. But now with the state of the pool on there. Seeking really should be lowering their monthly price. I've seen their ads on SM trying to attract more people to join. They need to target their ads more though to attract young females. There's way more than enough dudes on there where you can call it a sausage fest. The site needs a lot more fresh young honeys again.

[UnknownSD]

How was Ella's pussy when you piped? Sometimes I feel like hitting her back up but she was kinda autistic / fobby.

You replied to the wrong message LOL.

[UnknownSD]

For who? Current Asian or past babies? The Asian honeys are 200 average for each meet up. I do my arrangements on a PPM set up. Not a set number of times per week or month. The past babies ranged anywhere from 100 average to 200 PPM. Depending on how many hours spent together, or a set number of fuck rounds or if overnight. Keep in mind I started my journey with Craigslist nonpros and some dabbling on Seeking since 2011. CL nonpros have always been inexpensive and as good looking as girls you'd find on Seeking. Just that you would pay a premium for the same girl because she was on a "sugaring" site. But CL nonpros officially ended back in March 2018 when the personals section was shut down. Then I migrated to Seeking full time. My usual average that I used to spend was 100 back then with a hard max of 250. Now my hard max is 350 and even that I consider to much to be paying for pussy. So I try and negotiate for less than that.

You should definitely hang on to your SBs. 200-350 ppm are impossible to find nowadays. 15 years ago I was giving 400-500 ppm for 8's. Nowadays I'm giving 1 k-1500 ppm for the 7's and 8's not even the 9's and 10's and they're complaining it's way too low and block / ignore me LOL.

[Murrican]

For who? Current Asian or past babies? The Asian honeys are 200 average for each meet up. I do my arrangements on a PPM set up. Not a set number of times per week or month. The past babies ranged anywhere from 100 average to 200 PPM. Depending on how many hours spent together, or a set number of fuck rounds or if overnight. Keep in mind I started my journey with Craigslist nonpros and some dabbling on Seeking since 2011. CL nonpros have always been inexpensive and as good looking as girls you'd find on Seeking. Just that you would pay a premium for the same girl because she was on a "sugaring" site. But CL nonpros officially ended back in March 2018 when the personals section was shut down. Then I migrated to Seeking full time. My usual average that I used to spend was 100 back then with a hard max of 250. Now my hard max is 350 and even that I consider to much to be paying for pussy. So I try and negotiate for less than that.

You get takers at 350?? In LA?? That's impressive. Do you have to weed through a lot of no's to get that accepted?

[StevenWalker]

Just curious how much allowance were you giving to meet up how many times?

How was Ella's pussy when you piped? Sometimes I feel like hitting her back up but she was kinda autistic / fobby.

[Lexx1]

Just curious how much allowance were you giving to meet up how many times?

For who? Current Asian or past babies? The Asian honeys are 200 average for each meet up. I do my arrangements on a PPM set up. Not a set number of times per week or month. The past babies ranged anywhere from 100 average to 200 PPM. Depending on how many hours spent together, or a set number of fuck rounds or if overnight. Keep in mind I started my journey with Craigslist nonpros and some dabbling on Seeking since 2011. CL nonpros have always been inexpensive and as good looking as girls you'd find on Seeking. Just that you would pay a premium for the same girl because she was on a "sugaring" site. But CL nonpros officially ended back in March 2018 when the personals section was shut down. Then I migrated to Seeking full time. My usual average that I used to spend was 100 back then with a hard max of 250. Now my hard max is 350 and even that I consider to much to be paying for pussy. So I try and negotiate for less than that.

[UnknownSD]

For you Asian lovers. As hard as it is to find a good Asian girl on a sugar site. Why in the hell would you throw one out or let them go? I have two Asian girls in my stable right now. One in LA and one in OC. Makes no sense to me to let one go for silly reasons. I've never ended an arrangement from my end. It's always the girl that no longer needs help for whatever reason. Maybe moves away or just doesn't want to be an arrangement anymore. Finds a great job. Morals kick in and they feel bad or for cheating on their bf / husband. Whatever the reason. I have never initiated it. I've had some come back needing help again. But yeah fellas letting go of hard to find Asian booty just is nuts to me. I try and hold on to my girls as long as I can. But when it's time to end I let it happen on its own.

Just curious how much allowance were you giving to meet up how many times?

[Lexx1]

This is my deal with Asian women. Many times you will have to steer the ship 100%. Its always one extreme or the other. Super passive or sexually broken to the point that you will need safe words and possible a verb and written contract LOL.

For you Asian lovers. As hard as it is to find a good Asian girl on a sugar site. Why in the hell would you throw one out or let them go? I have two Asian girls in my stable right now. One in LA and one in OC. Makes no sense to me to let one go for silly reasons. I've never ended an arrangement from my end. It's always the girl that no longer needs help for whatever reason. Maybe moves away or just doesn't want to be an arrangement anymore. Finds a great job. Morals kick in and they feel bad or for cheating on their bf / husband. Whatever the reason. I have never initiated it. I've had some come back needing help again. But yeah fellas letting go of hard to find Asian booty just is nuts to me. I try and hold on to my girls as long as I can. But when it's time to end I let it happen on its own.

[StudBucket]

I've had good success on SB, 4 great girls come to mind recently, and two of them were top-shelf. The trick is, you have to be willing to buy a ton of credits and send a ton of messages..........
If you wait until you have exactly 10 credits left, you will get an offer for 1,000 free credits, so I get 2,000 credits for cost of 1,000 and I probably go through 2 k-3 k credits / mo on an active month, so about $300-$400 to send all the messages I want to.....

This is a great summary of Secret Benefits and how to make it work and thank you also to the rest of you who shared your experiences. I will stay on SA for now as there are just too many fake profiles or bots it seems and the money outlay and time to get a "few girls out there " seems like too much time and $$ invested for little return.

[Animal131]

Had to fire my ABG for not having enough rizz. Man women these days have no game LOL. It used to be different 6-7 years ago.

Any ABGs left on seeking? Godam.

This is my deal with Asian women. Many times you will have to steer the ship 100%. Its always one extreme or the other. Super passive or sexually broken to the point that you will need safe words and possible a verb and written contract LOL.

[UnknownSD]

I'm off SA but here are some SBs that I think I haven't reviewed before. Forgot LOL. Just came back from trip from Asia. The quality of girls in Asia has gone down significantly as well and prices have gone up. I think this is a worldwide phenomenon. With the rise of social platforms and the barrier to fame is cheap, all the hot girls are moving towards it.

Fernandes. She's a Brazilian girl visiting LA. She's looking for 2 k ppm but negotiable. Her looks based on her profile photo is a 7 and her body 7/8.

https://members.seeking.com/member/5...3-2e76cdc7ec42

ItGirl. I've reviewed this one before. She's back on SA with a new profile. She's been on SA for over 10 years! She's in her early 30's but on her profile, she puts 27. She was looking for 1 k ppm before not sure how much now.

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...7-7719e1e5a675

Sxxystudent. She's back on here with a new profile. She's a SA regular and has been on it for many years. She was looking for 500 ppm back then but not sure how much now.]

Just noticed I typed the date wrong LOL. Too early in the morning and still jet lagged LOL

[UnknownSD]

"99.9% fake" is a bit of an overestimate for the Secret Benefits (SB) site, but 95% is fair. The reason I kept trying, joining SB about 10 times over 5 years, is that I like the idea of competition among sugarbaby sites, and the site was alluring. I did finally give up, though.

As has been widely reported on USASG (do a search), the vast majority of Messages on SB are simply an invitation for you to reply and thus spend your credits, with no further replies. I think it does increase your chances if the girl has a Verification video where she says "Let me be your secret". I've met a few girls. In the reviews it's often stated that the site's software keeps old and abandoned profiles alive, generating fake conversation. This kind of thing will only get worse with AI bots and such things. Then again, maybe we'll have realistic synthetic SB dolls running AI soon, LOL.

Fine. How about 99% fake LOL. The 1% that are real are on SA as well. It's not like the Sbs are exclusives on Secret Benefits. They are always on multiple sugar dating websites so there's really no point to use Secret Benefits honestly.

[Snake27]

Don't ever use a dating website that uses credits to communicate. 99.9% is all fake. There are still plenty of real accounts on SA. Just need to take time to filter out the scammers and be patient.

"99.9% fake" is a bit of an overestimate for the Secret Benefits (SB) site, but 95% is fair. The reason I kept trying, joining SB about 10 times over 5 years, is that I like the idea of competition among sugarbaby sites, and the site was alluring. I did finally give up, though.

As has been widely reported on USASG (do a search), the vast majority of Messages on SB are simply an invitation for you to reply and thus spend your credits, with no further replies. I think it does increase your chances if the girl has a Verification video where she says "Let me be your secret". I've met a few girls. In the reviews it's often stated that the site's software keeps old and abandoned profiles alive, generating fake conversation. This kind of thing will only get worse with AI bots and such things. Then again, maybe we'll have realistic synthetic SB dolls running AI soon, LOL.

[Lexx1]

I am currently working in family law and talk to a fair # of guys getting back into dating pool that are getting divorced. One of them sent me a link to an asian dating site and relayed all the great convos he was having. And spending about $$$ to $$$$ a month on credits. When I asked him if he had met anyone yet he said no, but it was going to happen soon. LOL.

SB may be totally legit but generally speaking these sites are not.

Yup. Buying hundreds of dollars of credits and then burning through those credits to waste on trying to talk to a girl who is supposedly real is a terrible pay system. Seeking even though it's more expensive now at over 100 for a subscription without discount. I remember when it was around 70/80. Is a much better value because you can talk to unlimited girls for a monthly fee that is more reasonable. When I tried Secret Benefits I was just eating through credits and spending a lot of money buying those credits. For me it was not worth it. Those hundreds of dollars you're spending on buying credits could be better used on paying for an actual fuck meet with one, two or more different girls.