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[James D 2004]

Water is moisture. Moisturizers are misnomers because what they do is to keep moisture from escaping the skin. Glycerin is like a film of sponge that clings on the skin. You can get a gallon cheap online. Don't use anything to wash without it. Soap bars don't unless they are made the traditional way. But then they deposit scums on the bath tub and your hair too. If your bath wash has it but you still feel dry, add some glycerin to it. 5% by weight is a good starting point. It's water soluble so you can't have too much. I add that to dishwashing detergent for hand wash.

I have been having skin troubles due to dryness that I wasn't aware of, nor my doctor. I also want to keep my hair. A few strands after shower adds up. What you ever need is a mild surfactant with enough suds that feel comfortable. The science is largest molecule, non ionic surfactant. Glucoside fits the bill. Different number of carbon atoms give them different names. 10 is the right size with enough suds. All other ingredients are for making the look and the feel for branding.

I wash my hair everyday and wash my hands as often as I like. It's better than applying lotion all over my body after every shower.

[SolarisMan]

When I hear someone catching something in the past, it seemed like an isolated incident where providers go on a vacation to get treated, and it gets forgotten quickly.

On this occasion, however, it feels different. With limited information I could be way off, but it seems like many have caught it, which means there will be more cases since some don't even know they got infected and continue to go about doing their business as usual.

It's clear that those who dipped their schlong in a koochie in last four weeks or so, particularly in West LA, should get tested, and seek proper medical treatment if needed.

We are on this forum to share info in hopes of making somewhat loose informed decisions to make our hobby experience bit better than jumping in blind without any intel. I hope this forum has served us well.

I cringe when I read these posts about STD! I won't take any chances on my health and I value my body and my health.

I guess my tolerance is lower than many people that who still choose to participate. I stay away until I see some girls take a two week vacation but as long as I see so many still working, I know nothing has been done to deal with any issues that might be out there.

[FreeWally]

But for mongers, its external mostly and since you don't wash 10 times a day, you will smell it, see it and feel the burn.

With recent posts, I see more people will raise their hand in a week or so that they caught something too.

It is interesting that our medical technologies are so advance, why can't they make OTC testing kit for all STD? They did for Covid in a short of few months, smh.

Or meds that is OTC readily available like cold medicine, f at cking greedy basters.

It is important not to overwash or you can cause skin problems with the sensitive skin there. I have found through a lot of trial and error to use gel facewash with low fragrance (I use Nivea moisturizing face wash), no more problems with irritation or drying from overwashing.

Girls (whether SW or regular partners) sometimes get BV (bacterial vaginosis) after sex, especially if you finish in them. It smells a little fishy. Even my first girlfriend had it, we were both virgins, so it was not an STI. Sometimes it's the PH of semen or from over-washing. In both scenarios (SW and partners) I have sometimes had a fishy smell for a day or two after, and I could wash it off but it would come back making me paranoid. But not an STD in hindsight (this refers to my third bbfs streak, not the first two where I got something with the first girl I tried but didn't know). When I had an STI the smell was just different, a bit rotten. Often it was the only symptom I could pinpoint. There were other symptoms but so mild they couldn't be tied to it. And as I mentioned, it took a partner getting it for me to know. What complicates things is I also have mild symptoms from high blood sugar which can overlap (not quite diabetes yet though). I will rarely get balantis which is from peeing urine with sugar, leading to a rapid yeast infection on the penis head (pre-diabetes is no joke). Careful washing or neosporin cream (not ointment) solved it every time. But it doesn't help with the paranoia. To sum up what I'm saying, BBFS made me super paranoid and stressed on top of being a matter of time. Even if I knew it would take a long time to get something, I guess I'm too old for that again.

Urine can only screen for certain bacteria. It won't screen for syphilis for example, which is by blood. Historically chlamydia is tested as a priority because it is the leading cause of blindness in newborns. And Gonorrhea is the worst as far as UTIs. So that is probably why there is not the urgency to test for Trich and the several other "non-specific" UTIs as it's called. If a woman is sick enough to come in, they culture her and they don't even have to identify the bacteria to know what antibiotic worked on it. Their goal is to treat people, not prevent men from getting outed. Luckily there is always some ambiguity/uncertainty (most especially if she doesn't test positive for chlamydia and gonorrhea). I can work with that. My younger self could not though, which indirectly ended the relationship (it was my fault, not the STD even).

Taking antibiotics and worrying isn't fun, but again if you have no partner it isn't a big deal as long as you know and treat it before your next partner. It makes things difficult even if you stopped mongering, which was the case for me the first time it happened. I'd even say it was the biggest factor in breakup. she wasn't so much upset about it as how things unfolded months after because of it, not to mention we stopped bbfs and went covered which is probably why I didn't try half as hard (this was a relationship for fun so I don't regret that, but if I wasn't young I would have at least handled it better in hindsight).

[FreeWally]

If you have the clap, the preferred medication is a shot in your butt cheeks of another antibiotic but these services will give you an oral alternative such as Cefixime or Zpak, along with a Doxy cycle.

Clap is known to be antibiotic resistant and it's better to get the shot. At the very least anyone who does the alternative needs to retest and make sure they don't have the clap anymore. What could happen is that obvious symptoms may be gone but it could be still lurking. Gonoccal bacteria is very adaptive.

You are correct, in-clinic I get the shot but online it is by pill. I wasn't worried since I tested negative for Gonorrhea but I also looked up studies that said the pill antibiotic was "only" 98% effective compared to the shot. That number drops dramatically for those that don't take every pill in the series (which combined with antibiotic resistance is the majority of times treatment fails). So take every pill if you go that route. From a health policy they do not want that 2% to get away and spread, so it's a valid concern and I do not want to dissaude anyone from getting the shot. I also did not want to show up at the same clinic again to people who will wonder why I am back (amazing how much pussy you can get in a few months), and the next one was pretty far away and the other has super weird hours (it's a free clinic).

One other reason for getting multi-antibiotics is it covers syphilis, which can only be tested for by blood. And I'm not about to get a blood test for syphilis every X months or years, persuading my doctor each time. And on the flipside the only alternative is to wait 5-20 years before syphilis makes you stupid before a doctor finally says "yep, you have syphilis now take this one pill that could have solved it". I did this as part of quitting bbfs forever, for context. I think the pill was literally $1.43 at Rite Aid with my RX plan (the others were exactly $5.00 and $10.00). The pills will make you nauseous as they kill both good and bad bacteria. It is pointless to do all this if you are just going to go back to bbfs unless you are prepared to do STD blood tests the rest of your mongering career (I mean I guess that's better still, but why not find just one girl if bbfs is the sole defining criteria). I'm out. Just bj bare, always covered fs from here on.

Sorry to ramble but my point is even my in-person visit with the butt shot did not cover trich (I looked up the medications) and would not let me "get out" for smooth sailing for the next 20 years of wonderful shrink-wrapped pussy. And by the way, anyone who visits San Diego should try out Cherry at SDAG. She sucks dick for 10 minutes straight and I have told her in a moment of passion her mouth is better than pussy. And as you all know by now I do love (er used to love) bare pussy. But no more.

My partner's culture was treatable with an antibiotic that is also used (less commonly) to treat Gonorrhea, but it was not that. I think it is easy to culture for a woman, but getting cultured as a guy means the long swab down your urethra. Don't ask.

[PepsiLover]

When I hear someone catching something in the past, it seemed like an isolated incident where providers go on a vacation to get treated, and it gets forgotten quickly.

On this occasion, however, it feels different. With limited information I could be way off, but it seems like many have caught it, which means there will be more cases since some don't even know they got infected and continue to go about doing their business as usual.

It's clear that those who dipped their schlong in a koochie in last four weeks or so, particularly in West LA, should get tested, and seek proper medical treatment if needed.

We are on this forum to share info in hopes of making somewhat loose informed decisions to make our hobby experience bit better than jumping in blind without any intel. I hope this forum has served us well.

[JoseMan]

Well, intel and statistic suggest that many of you here probably experiencing the same thing (gono a).

Did a research, as for providers, it's harder for them to tell if they have it because they wash it so often and did not get to smell it or see it accumulate, hence you won't see hers too.

Also it's harder for them to see or feel since it is 50/50 external or internal and they are down on the bottom not like our dick.

But for mongers, its external mostly and since you don't wash 10 times a day, you will smell it, see it and feel the burn.

With recent posts, I see more people will raise their hand in a week or so that they caught something too.

It is interesting that our medical technologies are so advance, why can't they make OTC testing kit for all STD? They did for Covid in a short of few months, smh.

Or meds that is OTC readily available like cold medicine, f at cking greedy basters.

It is amazing that all the possible suspects are all still working.

Happy 2024!

[TD Leafs]

Remi is returning very soon.

Glad to see her come back.

[TD Leafs]

https://www.candygirlla.com/portfolio-1/serina

Any info on Serina?

Her photos seem very familiar.

[Vulcan1009]

What's the bug?

Or is that off limits?

Well, intel and statistic suggest that many of you here probably experiencing the same thing (gono a).

Did a research, as for providers, it's harder for them to tell if they have it because they wash it so often and did not get to smell it or see it accumulate, hence you won't see hers too.

Also it's harder for them to see or feel since it is 50/50 external or internal and they are down on the bottom not like our dick.

But for mongers, its external mostly and since you don't wash 10 times a day, you will smell it, see it and feel the burn.

With recent posts, I see more people will raise their hand in a week or so that they caught something too.

It is interesting that our medical technologies are so advance, why can't they make OTC testing kit for all STD? They did for Covid in a short of few months, smh.

Or meds that is OTC readily available like cold medicine, f at cking greedy basters.

[RocketManP]

Callondoc lets you suggest what you want treatment for. Make sure to mention all the pussy you've been exposed to because that makes it an open and shut case.

If you have the clap, the preferred medication is a shot in your butt cheeks of another antibiotic but these services will give you an oral alternative such as Cefixime or Zpak, along with a Doxy cycle.

Clap is known to be antibiotic resistant and it's better to get the shot. At the very least anyone who does the alternative needs to retest and make sure they don't have the clap anymore. What could happen is that obvious symptoms may be gone but it could be still lurking. Gonoccal bacteria is very adaptive.

Otherwise these services are pretty nice and convenient. You don't even need to mention the puss, just check multiple sex partners, new partners, unprotected sex and check symptoms on their forms. These services want your money because to them it's a very quick buck for no work. Goodmds even can give you a mix and match of meds of your choice.

[ZebraZebra]

Saw her after her return as I wanted to see what the hype was about since I didn't see her during her first stint.

Age:

She is older but not quite MILF yet. But, that shouldn't stop you as she has a ton of energy and most mongers wouldn't be able to tell how old she is. At youngest, she could be mid-30's but I think she's actually in her 40's. As others have mentioned, her mannerisms and how she talks is not of younger girl. I could also tell by her eyelids. She could pass for early 30's to most people.

Face: 7. 5/10.

She is pretty cute but personally not my style. I could see some mongers giving her a 8 or even a 9. The third pic of her on CGLA website is closest to what she looks like but she has less fat on her face and her jawline is more straight. Someone mentioned she likely got surgery during her break to make her jawline more straight.

She also has lip filler / lip injection which I'm not a fan of but it seems most k-girls have it. I'd rather have thin, natural lips that that. Same goes for tits.

Body: 8/10.

This, like looks, is subjective. I like my girls to have some meat on them and she fits that bill. She's not skinny nor thick, more like an average soft civie body. Her tits are man-made but soft enough with nice nipples. I'm not sure she qualifies as a spinner.

Service: 9/10.

She is the epitome of service from a seasoned pro. With me, she was like a nympho energizer bunny. People say she seems drunk / high, but it seemed like she was drunk on sex. She was trying to please non-stop during the session. She also rolls her eyes back a lot, which I find very hot. Could all be an act but she's very good at it.

Good sounds and reaction from DATY. Again, could be an act but it seemed real. My first pop was with her on top as I couldn't finish in the usual mish for some reason. I've never popped in cg but she is really good there. She slow grinded me for a while after I came, which felt amazing. She tried really hard to get that second pop but I can never get their nowadays.

Lots of DFK throughout the session. Definitely the most intense DFK you'll experience from a k-girl I've received.

Attitude: 9/10.

Super sweet and accommodating. She kept saying she was nervous throughout the session because I was too good looking LOL. Not sure if she says that to other guys to stroke their ego but it seemed odd that a pro would say that. I've also heard that from other providers but it made me wonder for a sec if I got bait and switched. She has a large flower tattoo on her right shoulder blade right?

Her clock runs like 5 minutes fast but she's not a clock watcher. If we were still going hard, I'm pretty sure she would have went over time.

Repeat:

Maybe. Some aspects are not to my preference but I'm pretty particular about these things. But, it was definitely one of my better sessions and don't regret it.

Be warned, the A / C in her apartment doesn't work. This didn't bother me as I don't get that hot / sweaty but she was drenched in sweat and it was pretty cold that day. She was also working very hard LOL. I feel bad for her when she's working in the summer.

Also, I asked her how long she's staying here and she said "until she didn't sell" LOL. So, she'll be around for a while.

Yup, that's definitely her you saw. Interesting, I didn't notice anything different about her jawline since she came back, her face looks the same to me. I would be surprised if she were already in her 40's, I would put her late 30's. By eyelids you mean slight wrinkles?

I hope she stays for a while, the only thing I can see that would slow down her business is if another girl with similar level of looks and service comes down to WLA. Right now seems like we only have Maia / Hana for the dudes who like spinners and nice asses, and Ina for the dudes who like taller + pretty face and boobs. There's some new girls I haven't tried yet tho. With the holidays over and business picking up again I hope we can see someone with Erica-level looks again. But for now, Ina checks all the boxes for me.

[KalvinHobbs]

Ella K is 150 BB upcharge. #bbinflation has arrived.

Isn't Esme charging 200 BB or maybe that's with msog too.

[InternDavid]

Saw her after her return as I wanted to see what the hype was about since I didn't see her during her first stint.

Age:

She is older but not quite MILF yet. But, that shouldn't stop you as she has a ton of energy and most mongers wouldn't be able to tell how old she is. At youngest, she could be mid-30's but I think she's actually in her 40's. As others have mentioned, her mannerisms and how she talks is not of younger girl. I could also tell by her eyelids. She could pass for early 30's to most people.

Face: 7. 5/10.

She is pretty cute but personally not my style. I could see some mongers giving her a 8 or even a 9. The third pic of her on CGLA website is closest to what she looks like but she has less fat on her face and her jawline is more straight. Someone mentioned she likely got surgery during her break to make her jawline more straight.

She also has lip filler / lip injection which I'm not a fan of but it seems most k-girls have it. I'd rather have thin, natural lips that that. Same goes for tits.

Body: 8/10.

This, like looks, is subjective. I like my girls to have some meat on them and she fits that bill. She's not skinny nor thick, more like an average soft civie body. Her tits are man-made but soft enough with nice nipples. I'm not sure she qualifies as a spinner.

Service: 9/10.

She is the epitome of service from a seasoned pro. With me, she was like a nympho energizer bunny. People say she seems drunk / high, but it seemed like she was drunk on sex. She was trying to please non-stop during the session. She also rolls her eyes back a lot, which I find very hot. Could all be an act but she's very good at it.

Good sounds and reaction from DATY. Again, could be an act but it seemed real. My first pop was with her on top as I couldn't finish in the usual mish for some reason. I've never popped in cg but she is really good there. She slow grinded me for a while after I came, which felt amazing. She tried really hard to get that second pop but I can never get their nowadays.

Lots of DFK throughout the session. Definitely the most intense DFK you'll experience from a k-girl I've received.

Attitude: 9/10.

Super sweet and accommodating. She kept saying she was nervous throughout the session because I was too good looking LOL. Not sure if she says that to other guys to stroke their ego but it seemed odd that a pro would say that. I've also heard that from other providers but it made me wonder for a sec if I got bait and switched. She has a large flower tattoo on her right shoulder blade right?

Her clock runs like 5 minutes fast but she's not a clock watcher. If we were still going hard, I'm pretty sure she would have went over time.

Repeat:

Maybe. Some aspects are not to my preference but I'm pretty particular about these things. But, it was definitely one of my better sessions and don't regret it.

Be warned, the A / C in her apartment doesn't work. This didn't bother me as I don't get that hot / sweaty but she was drenched in sweat and it was pretty cold that day. She was also working very hard LOL. I feel bad for her when she's working in the summer.

Also, I asked her how long she's staying here and she said "until she didn't sell" LOL. So, she'll be around for a while.

[LabiaFedora]

Ella K is 150 BB upcharge. #bbinflation has arrived.

Ha. No thanks, next!

[FreeWally]

I dunno if you guys worry about herpes, as you can still get it with a condom too.

Yes, herpes is the one STD where it's just a matter of time. I think I got it after visiting my 10th girl (covered sex but BBBJ every time) It was hard to tell I had it, I ignored the mild symptoms, but I passed it on and they got it diagnosed as herpes. I took a blood test confirming I had antibodies. For some people the symptoms are mild, for others not so. For me it decreased over time, which is common. It is very common among those sexually active with enough partners in their life, regardless of if you are mongering. But hard to explain if you get it while monogamous for a long time.

There are two strains of herpes, one which predominantly infects the mouth and one which predominantly infects the genitals. But it is possible (just less likely) for oral sex to pass oral herpes to the genitals and for genital herpes to pass to the mouth. So given enough BBBJ it can happen. Oral herpes can be very visible for a while as a sore on or near the lips. You can get both strains. But if you are lucky not to have symptoms (but antibodies), you are thereafter innoculated from getting it any worse.

One other STD that's not common these days is crabs (pubic lice), which are only an issue with girls who don't shave and see a guy who had it. Had 1 case from Japan. Itchiness with white spots in hair (which are the lice). Super easy to treat with Nix.

As I said in the SD thread, I want to lay out a few anecdotal facts and basic logic. When I went to TJ 20 years ago, I went bb with one girl over 3 visits. Only that one girl. She gave me some STD (maybe chlamydia, gonorrhea, trich, or other non-specific UTI) but my symptoms were so mild I didn't notice. But I passed it on to my next girlfriend 3 years later, who did get very sick from the UTI. I avoided bb for 18 years because of it. Then with k-agencies after visiting for 9 years I tried bb with one girl. Just one girl, one time. That first bb k-girl gave me something. The thing is, I tested negative every test I took, but those tests only check for chlamydia and gonorrhea even though there are many more. My partner also tested negative for those specific strains but a definite UTI, and cultures from the lab determined what specific antibiotics to use. So a non-specific UTI (sometimes called NGU). Won't go into the history or science of why they usually only test for those two, but to sum it up I went 2-for-2 catching something but also tested negative for the two common strains tested.

Here's the logic part. Most STIs do not get cured without antibiotics, even if there are no symptoms (like with me). They can still spread. And I'm a guy who visited TJ and later visited K-girls. There are a TON of other guys who do. I got something every time. I took a 2 year break from bb and for personal reasons got back into it again with 6 girls. I'm pretty sure I started clean because I took all my antibiotics from the previous time, but by the end of 6 girls I was back to getting treated again. The same girls I visited tour OC, LA, West Coast, East Coast. It's ridiculous but the girls change cities very few weeks. It's not just "WLA". Most guys will never admit to getting it. I didn't until now, and I've gone multiple rounds over 20 years. So you wouldn't know it, but recently I do confess it for the benefit of the next generation.

Do the math. Most girls who do bb are going to get it. Sometimes, you can even tell. I'm sorry, I just want to be upfront to save other people all these years of trouble. If you have no partner, I think it's not as big a deal. But see a doctor before you get a new partner and bravely explain that you have been exposed to a lot of pussy. Mention SW and they will go from dismissive to full attention treating you because that's a magic criteria in risk assessment.

I visited clinics in the past including even urgent care for convenience, but lately I used callondoc to get a fast online prescription. One benefit is at urgent care they treated me for multiple STDs with antibiotics but not trich, which I was concerned was a missing possibility. Callondoc lets you suggest what you want treatment for. Make sure to mention all the pussy you've been exposed to because that makes it an open and shut case.

In summary with bbfs, apart from herpes and crabs and HIV, they are generally treatable with antibiotics. One other exception is the many strains of HPV, which as I've said before is preventable with the Gardasil vaccine. It's important and an easy box to check off.

This is 20 years of experience. Sorry for a long rant but if this helps a few people weigh their risk and treatment options better, that's what it's here for.