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  1. #14111
    Quote Originally Posted by GenghisDong  [View Original Post]
    For Seoli, I am trying to remember what she she showed me on her phone or if I even saw it, but talking I said "you do no condom" "yes" "100 inside?" "no 200 inside" "How about 140?" "Just this once but next time 200".

    Exact conversation.

    But you have to be willing to say "I can just use a condom it is ok" if they do not go below 200 inside. So many times they will be like 100 ok". Sometimes they will come back with 150 or if they are still not biting I will offer 140.

    Like I said, I paid 200 one time for bbfscip with Kaka. That is it. Every other time I say I get it, it is 100 or 140. I am not a hard negotiator, I don't get mad, I don't promise them a review or anything. I just show that I am totally willing to use a condom.

    Now, sometimes I do tell them "I am a one shot guy" because I am. . One time at 1010 I even negotiated 100 bbfscip with a girl sticking to 200 AFTER we 69 and I made her cum. LOL!

    Oh, and sometimes I tell them I will cum faster without a condom.

    Seoli was an easy negotiation. Easy.

    See this is what I am saying. Some girls say 200/300 especially first day and I just don't listen to it. The only one that stuck to that was that Baka girl everyone hated.

    Kaya did the 200/300 but broke to 100 cop after she got tired of fucking me. I wasn't about to really negotiate for inside at under 200. But I assume she went down to 100/200 after.
    Rule of thumb is it providers ask condom or no condom right off the bat, ask how much? If it is not what you want don't bother negotiating and just say condom is fine. Work your charm before penetrating and then negotiate. 80% of the time they will bite, if it's a negotiated COP price fuck her first then the last 5-10 minutes after making her feel good negotiate the CIP price, 90% of the time they will agree because they either feel good or tired of fucking you.

    Now as far as charm and game that's YMMV. Some people will just negotiate from the get go but that's a 50/50 coin flip.

  2. #14110

    Fresh?

    Miyuki R8 https://risingsun8.com/view/304 - nice tight bod. R8 has a stacked lineup for the holiday season.

    Maki 1010 https://10tenclub.com/view/456 - she is very new and inexperienced, very tight. You need to take charge or you will be looking at each other naked. #NBC with a few day old shave.

    Gina 1010 https://10tenclub.com/view/455 is still off. The most anticipated girl is not showing up yet. WTF.

    Alice XO https://xoxogirlsny.com/view/459 looks good.



    At DK. Yes, no Pepsi head-to-head challenge is best. Smart business. Like Miyu / Snow didn't want to be at the same shop as Tami to avoid direct competition also. Makes better friends too LOL.


    At VideoLuvr. Negotiations -- lots of diff tactics by everyone . I always have my condom so the girl knows I am prepared to fuck with J condom. I negotiate quickly. Any prolonged conversation is just wasting my time I would just kiss / P2 P and get ready to open the wrapper. I'm not ugly either so it helps. There are people promising good reviews or worse, threatening to give bad reviews. The girls have heard it all so it comes down to chemistry and your willingness to go condom and your ability to drop their guard. Like GD. I don't discuss exact $ because 1) if you say you paid MSRP you bound to get some dumb messages 2) if you say you got it cheap, you bound to get dumb messages also. You've read them, you can recognize them. 3) It's YMMV and some dumb asses will DM the girls what they read on the forum. In any case, if I say I BBed a girl without an exact number then I did not pay MSRP. With inflation and Christmas around the corner, I am not interested in paying MSRP for "tips" when it's usually part of the bundle in Japan. I am happy to use up my J condom. On a few occasions the condom broke and CIP accidentally and since it was not intentional, no issues and girl just cleans up. They do see it as par for the course, and just trying to get some extra $.

    Shy could be his good looks

    DK could be his charm and humor

    GD could be the fact that girl knows he will for sure write a review regardless and he's a frequent fucker.

    Javluvr could be his big cock and the girl are shocked and awed and wanna see how it feels.


    Anyway, last day today before not able to bang for a couple of days, Haruki PPC guaranteed good BB again, Mimo. Chancing it on a girl who's been around for a while. Or. Try Mika again? Dunno if she's got a mustache this time (I know she's hard line but I got j condom). Not interested in Jenny PPC (3 shops in 7 days is NG) or Ami PPC (unsure about the pics).

  3. #14109

    Seoli negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by VidLover69  [View Original Post]
    So what's the secret password and handshake to get Seoli down to market?

    Stretch marks were not noticeable during the session. But after watching the replay like 5 x, I can barely see it.
    For Seoli, I am trying to remember what she she showed me on her phone or if I even saw it, but talking I said "you do no condom" "yes" "100 inside?" "no 200 inside" "How about 140?" "Just this once but next time 200".

    Exact conversation.

    But you have to be willing to say "I can just use a condom it is ok" if they do not go below 200 inside. So many times they will be like 100 ok". Sometimes they will come back with 150 or if they are still not biting I will offer 140.

    Like I said, I paid 200 one time for bbfscip with Kaka. That is it. Every other time I say I get it, it is 100 or 140. I am not a hard negotiator, I don't get mad, I don't promise them a review or anything. I just show that I am totally willing to use a condom.

    Now, sometimes I do tell them "I am a one shot guy" because I am. . One time at 1010 I even negotiated 100 bbfscip with a girl sticking to 200 AFTER we 69 and I made her cum. LOL!

    Oh, and sometimes I tell them I will cum faster without a condom.

    Seoli was an easy negotiation. Easy.

    Quote Originally Posted by ShyNerdX  [View Original Post]
    I know some of ya'll waiting on my return, here's my take from seeing her.



    BBFS $200/300, you can definitely get it for true market rate or less. Like I mentioned in the past, it's YMMV.
    See this is what I am saying. Some girls say 200/300 especially first day and I just don't listen to it. The only one that stuck to that was that Baka girl everyone hated.

    Kaya did the 200/300 but broke to 100 cop after she got tired of fucking me. I wasn't about to really negotiate for inside at under 200. But I assume she went down to 100/200 after.

  4. #14108
    Quote Originally Posted by VidLover69  [View Original Post]
    So what's the secret password and handshake to get Seoli down to market?

    Stretch marks were not noticeable during the session. But after watching the replay like 5 x, I can barely see it.
    I didn't notice it either, but I felt it. But I have no secret! My last 3 jgirls were duds because I went with recommendations, this time I just went with my normal routine. It's probably due to my physical appearance (I probably have advantage over most of her clients, young, fit and clean looking) + personality + charm that got me down.

  5. #14107
    Quote Originally Posted by VidLover69  [View Original Post]
    So what's the secret password and handshake to get Seoli down to market?
    Recent lurker here. All I did was pout and grunt like a petulant child at the 200/300 asking. Got it down in less than 10 seconds.

  6. #14106

    NYSE Michi / PPC Mimo - 30 minutes $230 - 2 sessions

    Taking a break from online activities but Michi / Mimo asked me to post a review and here it is.

    Very pretty face.

    Height about 5 feet.

    Slender with perky breasts and lovely nipples.

    Very good GFE, DFK and kissing overall.

    Had Bush in NYCSE first session; shaved in PPC second session.

    Nice BBBJ.

    Cute moans in 69 and mish.

    Very sweet.

    BBFS available but did not partake.

    Recommend Yes.

  7. #14105
    Quote Originally Posted by ShyNerdX  [View Original Post]
    BBFS $200/300, you can definitely get it for true market rate or less. Like I mentioned in the past, it's YMMV.
    Quote Originally Posted by GenghisDong  [View Original Post]
    By premium 140 for bbfscip if you have some verbal game.
    So what's the secret password and handshake to get Seoli down to market?

    Quote Originally Posted by ShyNerdX  [View Original Post]
    21 years old, Osaka girl. Her body, demeanor and attitude is very similar to Kotone SL earlier this year. Just not big ass MMs. Physical descriptions in reviews and photos are pretty spot on, she does have some stretch marks around the hips area not sure if anyone noticed those.
    Stretch marks were not noticeable during the session. But after watching the replay like 5 x, I can barely see it.

  8. #14104

    Seoli DDY

    Quote Originally Posted by VidLover69  [View Original Post]
    The good:

    1. Seoli looks damn hot with a pretty face, slim body, and all natural 30 Cs. The posted pics on fairly spot on with some minor filters and makeup.

    2. above avg service skill with tight pussy. She almost made me cum in the beginning with her CG skills which is very rare for me with a jgirl. But still below C or K girl level.

    3. surprisingly passable english with only moderate use of google translate.

    4. feisty personality (not the more usual quiet, submissive type).

    The not so good.

    1. premium A5 ask at 200/300. Some yada yada but girl did not want to go to the more standard pricing. Wasted too much time trying. Basically, girl knows she is hot and wants a premium.

    2. tiny, tiny room. It's almost like they took a pantry or walk in closet and turned it into a 'room'.

    Overall, it was definitely worth it for the collection. Iffy on the repeat given other choices.
    I know some of ya'll waiting on my return, here's my take from seeing her.

    $360/ hr + tip.

    LFK / DFK, CG, Mish, BBBJ, Semi DT. She's pretty GND over GFE.

    Conversational English, I needed no translator at all. Was able to use some Japanese I knew so that helped a lot.

    21 years old, Osaka girl. Her body, demeanor and attitude is very similar to Kotone SL earlier this year. Just not big ass MMs. Physical descriptions in reviews and photos are pretty spot on, she does have some stretch marks around the hips area not sure if anyone noticed those.

    BBFS $200/300, you can definitely get it for true market rate or less. Like I mentioned in the past, it's YMMV.

    Outside of the usual suspects, her BBBJ was pretty sloppy and sensual. She's very playful (probably the feisty thing vidlover was talking about) and I think I broke the ice when I figured that out at the beginning. In CG she did hold herself up and not allowing herself fully down (maybe my size?) and in mish she uses her hips to lock in position so you can not fully open to get in deep (she did resist with strength that I felt, so I didn't want to force it and hurt the girl). After warming her up though, I was fully in and that made her extremely wet.

    Showed me her gram and her friends are pretty damn cute too, hope they make their way here LOL. Did anyone else get to have some of her kit kat bars? Or did I really win her over? LOL.

    Repeat: Yes, but not in a hurry I'm still working UTR.

    Recommend: Yes.

  9. #14103
    Quote Originally Posted by GenghisDong  [View Original Post]
    By premium 140 for bbfscip if you have some verbal game.
    I thought you never discuss how much you paid for CIP? Is the multiple reviews of 200/300 asking hurting her business?

  10. #14102
    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenKid  [View Original Post]
    It looks like they are separating each queen bee to their separate kingdoms. Tami at NYSE and Mika at RS8. No head to head Pepsi challenge possible here.
    Yuyu and Tami are both at NYSE.

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenKid  [View Original Post]

    Yup, aka Jessica Rabbit, aka Ice Queen, aka Farty Princess, aka Unexpected Facial, aka takemymoney.
    Too bad mariko is a hard 'no' on video.

  11. #14101
    Quote Originally Posted by GenghisDong  [View Original Post]
    Very cute, Cs, 5'6 100 BBFS No Lube Club. Fantastic pussy that finished me pretty quick.
    Been meaning to see Jane but hear that she looks nothing like the picture so a bit worried there.

  12. #14100
    Quote Originally Posted by PokerBrah  [View Original Post]
    Gina is just off, idk why. She's been to Flushing for while and then toured DC and somewhere else after I think. First time coming to Manhattan AFAIK. pretty face, big tits, thicc.
    Speaking of Flushing, are these bombs incoming to Manhattan? https://shisanyi1818.com/view/456.

    Quote Originally Posted by PokerBrah  [View Original Post]
    Mimo PPC https://www.pleasure-palace.club/mimo - thought new but I see the outfit and I recognize it from one of the SE pics.
    Yup, Mimo was Michi at NYSE https://nycsmilingeyes.com/view/618. I liked that school uniform outfit as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by PokerBrah  [View Original Post]
    Mika returns thru R8 https://risingsun8.com/view/302 - will she steal the thunder from Tami? Definitely take some of Suzu's shine for sure I'd think.
    It looks like they are separating each queen bee to their separate kingdoms. Tami at NYSE and Mika at RS8. No head to head Pepsi challenge possible here.

  13. #14099

    Gina and other fresh

    Quote Originally Posted by VidLover69  [View Original Post]
    PB, you have to tryout Seoli for proper benchmarking purposes. It's for science. LOL. Just don't let the A5 wagyu premium prices turn you off.

    I might need to try out Harku for science as well.
    Yes Haruki PPC to benchmark. And same for Seoli SL.

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenKid  [View Original Post]
    Hmm. Gina already took a day off. Is it IRL or did she think that this was a free vacation?



    Yup, aka Jessica Rabbit, aka Ice Queen, aka Farty Princess, aka Unexpected Facial, aka takemymoney.
    She's just off, idk. Gina has toured Flushing first before going to DC. She's a bigger girl and not thin rails but very pretty with big knockers.

    Gina is just off, idk why. She's been to Flushing for while and then toured DC and somewhere else after I think. First time coming to Manhattan AFAIK. pretty face, big tits, thicc.


    Seems like there are 2 new girls since last night. Why can't these websites just get updated at a fixed interval?


    Maki 1010 https://10tenclub.com/view/456.

    Ami PPC https://www.pleasure-palace.club/ami.





    From earlier.

    Mimo PPC https://www.pleasure-palace.club/mimo - thought new but I see the outfit and I recognize it from one of the SE pics.

    Shiro R8 https://x.com/NYCRisingSun/status/1726804823738138938..

    Mika returns thru R8 https://risingsun8.com/view/302 - will she steal the thunder from Tami? Definitely take some of Suzu's shine for sure I'd think.

    Bree PPC's ass is on IRL Sorry guys. You may need to wait a day to go to Greece with her.

    Aiko XO https://xoxogirlsny.com/view/458 - wasn't there another girl with the same name, is this a pic switch?

    Wow ok. Hiromi SL https://shangrilanyc.com/index.php/a...del/?smid=1519..

    Random mention. Amelia looks very to me https://shangrilanyc.com/index.php/a...del/?smid=1515..

    Also. Harper PPC Damn she looks fucking good after all these years. Hot ass body still. Maybe I should see her again.

    Haruki PPC getting some traction along with Bree PPC. The underdogs coming thru for the win?

  14. #14098
    Quote Originally Posted by MightySpearsman  [View Original Post]
    You are correct, DFK usually is on the menu for most Asian girls, especially the C-girls, but sometimes it isn't. That's the benefit of posting on USA SG, now we know that info and can plan accordingly.
    For Chinese and Korean it is no issue. With a lot of Japanese while it is not a no, it is you have to be aggressive about getting that tongue in. Sometimes I tell them tongue and sometimes and just keep pushing my tongue until it gets through their lips and then it is fine.

    Other lines are "every girl here kisses with tongue."

  15. #14097
    Quote Originally Posted by VidLover69  [View Original Post]
    PB, you have to tryout Seoli for proper benchmarking purposes. It's for science. LOL. Just don't let the A5 wagyu premium prices turn you off.

    I might need to try out Harku for science as well.
    By premium 140 for bbfscip if you have some verbal game.

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