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  1. #38788

    I'm no Keanu Reeves but

    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiHeat2020  [View Original Post]
    How would they prosecute Johns without catching them red handed, exchanging money for sex. I would assume it's not illegal to see these girls for a massage even if the underlying agency is known for prostitution. And unless you're literally document exchanging money for sex, how can they show guilt beyond a reasonable doubt? Am I missing something?
    That's my impression too. Ultimately, it depends on what facts LE has, and having the Devil's Advocate on retainer doesn't hurt either. But how could LE prove you actually paid for sex? For argument's sake, what if you forgot to pay before you left the apartment? What are they going to do, charge you for petty theft? Better yet, what if you're one charming ass mofo, and got some complimentary cooze? Are they going to charge you for being a killer, I mean having killer looks?

  2. #38787

    Proof would be hard

    How would they prosecute Johns without catching them red handed, exchanging money for sex. I would assume it's not illegal to see these girls for a massage even if the underlying agency is known for prostitution. And unless you're literally document exchanging money for sex, how can they show guilt beyond a reasonable doubt? Am I missing something?

  3. #38786

    WLA TERs


  4. #38785
    Kbliss Friday flesh roster.

    Viki Iris BabyYuna Maia Juni.

  5. #38784

    I think it should be safe.

    Quote Originally Posted by PussyDestroyr  [View Original Post]
    What is this, the True Crime detective channel? Let's get back to our regularly scheduled program guys. Jesus. Creampies man, just creampies!
    Reached out to a couple bookers to get the feel for the sense of safety to continue after the bust. Generally, some of them knew of them but didn't do work with them beyond the girls making an independent move to tour but no contact was exchanged between the agencies of coordinated travel. I would speculate to say it is generally safe to monger and isn't more risky that it already is. Just remember, you are not obligated to spill the beans just because anyone approaches you asking this or that. If you're just another Joe getting some poon, you just keep it moving. But once again, don't let some girl talk you into leasing an apartment with them and have multi state deals with the businesses here cause then yeah, you may end up getting snagged. Be smart, be safe, and know your rights.

    I'm on my way right now to see my atf since she's back from the OC and this Veterans Day traffic is going to be stupid bad so I'm first in line. Happy hunting boys.

  6. #38783
    Quote Originally Posted by BonerAppetitty  [View Original Post]
    The affidavit was an interesting read. I only did a quick scan. I always thought cell like nature was the way to go. I was surprised how much paper trail those 3 left. Web operators, phone operators, owners, lease holders, etc, should have as minimal interaction as possible.
    OpSec for sure. Makes sense to me BA.

  7. #38782
    Quote Originally Posted by PussyDestroyr  [View Original Post]
    What is this, the True Crime detective channel? Let's get back to our regularly scheduled program guys. Jesus. Creampies man, just creampies!
    I agree that is the prime objective, but I for one, appreciate the PSA.

  8. #38781

    Cindy

    So I've seen most of the well reviewed BBFS girls over the last 10 years. I've pretty much always have a good experience, using the data gathered from this board, and The Erotic site. I've almost never been disappointed using this method (I never use pics, I ignore them, they are all fake). Recently Cindy was an exception. Not the looks I expected, nor the performance. I ended up wondering if I had been bait and switched. It wasn't terrible, but it wasn't great, not what I expected. So. I'm curious, does the real Cindy have a fairly large tattoo on her forearm? That's the only tattoo I saw.

  9. #38780

    ?

    What is this, the True Crime detective channel? Let's get back to our regularly scheduled program guys. Jesus. Creampies man, just creampies!

    Quote Originally Posted by FreeWally  [View Original Post]
    I'll step through the affidavit:

    https://www.justice.gov/d9/2023-11/u...t_redacted.pdf

    On page 2, it says James Lee, of Torrance, California "JAMES" On Page 34, it shows his 3 California driver's licenses he used.

    On page 41 it first mentions the informant "CS". It clearly states CS has been cooperating since 2020, and that in Spring 2023 she learned of a new shop planned for New Jersey by a 4th party referred to as "sister" (the affidavit clarifies this is not a literal sister LOL). That "sister" then consulted with someone in Boston. The affidavit says 'in sum and substance' that is Hana. CS asked a question on how to get a straw man to sign the lease. Hana then referred CS to James Lee. James Lee got paid $1000 a month to be a straw man leaser (apparently per apartment), plus expenses like utilities. CS then helped the DOJ place the recorded phone call to James where he explained all the details.

    BTW Hana had just under a million in her bank account, so she was not in want of money but probably just helping out by referring CS. This is a cautionary tale. After her 2nd or 3rd shop and first half million, Hana should have said "go find your own straw man I have no idea what you're talking about". DOJ clarifies they needed a Korean translator for the phone call with James.

    In terms of game theory, the ideal strategy is not to get too greedy. The DOJ wants to record evidence of new crimes, rather than go back in time and get just the paper work of old crimes. It's more than ten times less work. They didn't even bother apart from research on how to get the new evidence they want. So as I've said, a cell like nature is the only way to go. Want to set up a new shop, at some point you need a new straw renter. Don't use James past 2 or 3 units. The downside is you don't know they're reliable the new straw man is and they could slip up, but the reality is you do not want to be connected to a network that can be rolled.

    There are some small non-Korean agencies that have no discernable network like the K-orgs. I.e. the girls they use don't show up regularly at other agencies. Harder to run but on the upside only people in SD have ever mentioned their girls, so they are doing something right. Not saying they are safe, but they don't have the problem of being connected to another agency.

    Another user noted how the DOJ backhandedly said they are not prosecuting prostitution charges because that is the state's responsibility and they have no jurisdiction. The investigation is ongoing and the state is welcome to do that. The charges in this case are for pimping (enticing someone to travel for sex work), which is a serious federal offense. Prostitution varies from state to state and in California for example, it is a misdemeanor. Embarrassing but not the same. State charges more often than not are simply dropped (but not federal). The exact stat was about 60% dropped.

    Each year, about .05% of prostitution acts lead to arrests, according to publicly available statistics (which at best are estimates when it comes to prostitution acts). So 1 in 2000, with the lion's share being stings. If you're on your 35th girl, you are 965 more away from hitting the halfway point, at which time you should be sweating or dead happy of a heart attack from 1000 women. The risk is always there no one is saying otherwise.

    The smart thing to do for officials is to trumpet their successful cases in the media, which they do. They are just doing their job, nothing personal. Of course, if DOJ officials or secret service agents are caught up, they are "punished by HR" and interviewed for evidence, but they just don't normally prosecute their own. I've seen a lot of cases and tried hard to find one where they did. I'm sure it's happened in the last 50 years but I always look and am disappointed.

  10. #38779
    Your review is appreciated. You may want to see Momo K first because the other girls will still be around but she may not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Garwu  [View Original Post]
    ...Current list to see: Elle, baby Chu, baby Lucy, baby Cherry, Daphne, Momo K, Seol A.

    List goes on but think I've already written too much. Will report back if there's interest. Thanks again.

  11. #38778
    The affidavit was an interesting read. I only did a quick scan. I always thought cell like nature was the way to go. I was surprised how much paper trail those 3 left. Web operators, phone operators, owners, lease holders, etc, should have as minimal interaction as possible.

    Quote Originally Posted by FreeWally  [View Original Post]
    I'll step through the affidavit:

    https://www.justice.gov/d9/2023-11/u...t_redacted.pdf

    ...So as I've said, a cell like nature is the only way to go...

  12. #38777

  13. #38776
    Quote Originally Posted by BonerAppetitty  [View Original Post]
    Are you speculating? I can even guess who the Kgirl informant is and who Torrance man might have been. I am saying by releasing all this info, all known associates with them will be on high alert now. We will see but it's less likely to affect mongers. The owners will be the first to go. With so many bookers, it will take informants to point out the owners who control the money.
    I'll step through the affidavit:

    https://www.justice.gov/d9/2023-11/u...t_redacted.pdf

    On page 2, it says James Lee, of Torrance, California "JAMES" On Page 34, it shows his 3 California driver's licenses he used.

    On page 41 it first mentions the informant "CS". It clearly states CS has been cooperating since 2020, and that in Spring 2023 she learned of a new shop planned for New Jersey by a 4th party referred to as "sister" (the affidavit clarifies this is not a literal sister LOL). That "sister" then consulted with someone in Boston. The affidavit says 'in sum and substance' that is Hana. CS asked a question on how to get a straw man to sign the lease. Hana then referred CS to James Lee. James Lee got paid $1000 a month to be a straw man leaser (apparently per apartment), plus expenses like utilities. CS then helped the DOJ place the recorded phone call to James where he explained all the details.

    BTW Hana had just under a million in her bank account, so she was not in want of money but probably just helping out by referring CS. This is a cautionary tale. After her 2nd or 3rd shop and first half million, Hana should have said "go find your own straw man I have no idea what you're talking about". DOJ clarifies they needed a Korean translator for the phone call with James.

    In terms of game theory, the ideal strategy is not to get too greedy. The DOJ wants to record evidence of new crimes, rather than go back in time and get just the paper work of old crimes. It's more than ten times less work. They didn't even bother apart from research on how to get the new evidence they want. So as I've said, a cell like nature is the only way to go. Want to set up a new shop, at some point you need a new straw renter. Don't use James past 2 or 3 units. The downside is you don't know they're reliable the new straw man is and they could slip up, but the reality is you do not want to be connected to a network that can be rolled.

    There are some small non-Korean agencies that have no discernable network like the K-orgs. I.e. the girls they use don't show up regularly at other agencies. Harder to run but on the upside only people in SD have ever mentioned their girls, so they are doing something right. Not saying they are safe, but they don't have the problem of being connected to another agency.

    Another user noted how the DOJ backhandedly said they are not prosecuting prostitution charges because that is the state's responsibility and they have no jurisdiction. The investigation is ongoing and the state is welcome to do that. The charges in this case are for pimping (enticing someone to travel for sex work), which is a serious federal offense. Prostitution varies from state to state and in California for example, it is a misdemeanor. Embarrassing but not the same. State charges more often than not are simply dropped (but not federal). The exact stat was about 60% dropped.

    Each year, about .05% of prostitution acts lead to arrests, according to publicly available statistics (which at best are estimates when it comes to prostitution acts). So 1 in 2000, with the lion's share being stings. If you're on your 35th girl, you are 965 more away from hitting the halfway point, at which time you should be sweating or dead happy of a heart attack from 1000 women. The risk is always there no one is saying otherwise.

    The smart thing to do for officials is to trumpet their successful cases in the media, which they do. They are just doing their job, nothing personal. Of course, if DOJ officials or secret service agents are caught up, they are "punished by HR" and interviewed for evidence, but they just don't normally prosecute their own. I've seen a lot of cases and tried hard to find one where they did. I'm sure it's happened in the last 50 years but I always look and am disappointed.

  14. #38775

    Don't go too deep

    Just be the charity, donate, Fk and go home. Don't try to go too deep or getting too details into this bois. It ain't good for you or your life, live simple, pay and go home.

    Just my 2 cent advi, as how I roll through out the years.

    This is not your life, this is just a hobby.

  15. #38774

    SSG Hana return date

    Anyone have any info on this? Aside from the site just saying 2 month vacay.

    Thanks.

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