Rants and Stupid shit in Orange County

[Oc Amper]

As a longtime monger who has frequented hundreds of AMPs, it still surprises me when I see another dude leaving, entering or inside waiting who will not make eye contact when I pass him. The standard reaction I see is to either look away or look down, avoiding eye contact at all costs.

We're all there paying for a good time, so why is so hard to exchange knowing smiles at the very least. Hey, I'm not trying to make friends, just being friendly. If a dude is entering a place as I'm leaving, I might say "Have a blast" or a simple "Enjoy", but more often than not, there is no acknowledgment. It's no big deal to me; more of curiosity.

So who of you feel similarly, and who might like to share your thoughts on why you want no eye contact or brief greetings with fellow customers?

Suppose, walk of shame, LOL. I rarely see any mongers coming / going, so can't really share in that experience. I would probably say something similar, enjoy, good luck, etc.

[Maxen]

As a longtime monger who has frequented hundreds of AMPs, it still surprises me when I see another dude leaving, entering or inside waiting who will not make eye contact when I pass him. The standard reaction I see is to either look away or look down, avoiding eye contact at all costs.

We're all there paying for a good time, so why is so hard to exchange knowing smiles at the very least. Hey, I'm not trying to make friends, just being friendly. If a dude is entering a place as I'm leaving, I might say "Have a blast" or a simple "Enjoy", but more often than not, there is no acknowledgment. It's no big deal to me; more of curiosity.

So who of you feel similarly, and who might like to share your thoughts on why you want no eye contact or brief greetings with fellow customers?

For me its just guilt, LOL, years ago I was in the waiting room with a kids friend's dad, at the next soccer game he just kept asking me for details.

[Sticker]

As a longtime monger who has frequented hundreds of AMPs, it still surprises me when I see another dude leaving, entering or inside waiting who will not make eye contact when I pass him. The standard reaction I see is to either look away or look down, avoiding eye contact at all costs.

We're all there paying for a good time, so why is so hard to exchange knowing smiles at the very least. Hey, I'm not trying to make friends, just being friendly. If a dude is entering a place as I'm leaving, I might say "Have a blast" or a simple "Enjoy", but more often than not, there is no acknowledgment. It's no big deal to me; more of curiosity.

So who of you feel similarly, and who might like to share your thoughts on why you want no eye contact or brief greetings with fellow customers?

[Oc Amper]

Testing testing 123.

We heard ya!

If you posted and it didn't show up, that is because all new members are moderated by the admins until you have posted a certain number of posts.

[VoodooChile]

Yes please. Popcorns.

LOL, I tried but the post got rejected. I think if you have been following other threads at all, it's pretty obvious who is bitter. Just wish I could explain why he was banned. Oh well.

[Rakmis]

Testing testing 123.

[James D 2004]

Curious if I can or should post this?

So apparently a member here has been harassing a particular spa and some of the girls that work here because the spa owner banned him and notified other spas in the area of what he did so they have banned him too. She asked me if I was a member here. When I told her yes she asked if I would post a letter from her to the rest of us explaining what he is doing. Fake reviews, fake accounts, fake posts, etc. Even leaving fake yelp reviews. I told her I would check here first.

Yes please. Popcorns.

[VoodooChile]

Massage shop owners know and monitor what's said here and other review sites. Further, most own more than one shop, some multiple dozens of them. A ban at one shop could easily be applied to several others. Perhaps he was foolish enough to out himself. I'll leave the punditry on whether to post the letter or not to other members. The question I would ask myself is, "What value is there in posting the letter here?" It may out the guy and affect business at the affected shops. Might lead the guy to change monikers, if he hasn't changed it many times already.

In the end a dick will be a dick no matter whether the anonymity of this board protects him or not.

It's honestly bothering me and some of her other regulars more than it is her. He is literally trying to send LE there constantly with his fake posts. One of his posts that I read talked about 3 FS providers that he sees there regularly, yet none of the 3 even work there. He is more dangerous to us than he is to her.

[VoodooChile]

Massage shop owners know and monitor what's said here and other review sites. Further, most own more than one shop, some multiple dozens of them. A ban at one shop could easily be applied to several others. Perhaps he was foolish enough to out himself. I'll leave the punditry on whether to post the letter or not to other members. The question I would ask myself is, "What value is there in posting the letter here?" It may out the guy and affect business at the affected shops. Might lead the guy to change monikers, if he hasn't changed it many times already.

In the end a dick will be a dick no matter whether the anonymity of this board protects him or not.

She doesn't care about "outting" him really. She just wants other clients to have realistic expectations of her shop rather than the fantasies and BS he has been posting. I'm pretty sure that anyone that has been reading the other threads already knows who we are referring to. She's not going to stoop to his childish behavior, just wants to let the truth be known and let us decide what we want.

[Dante420]

Massage shop owners know and monitor what's said here and other review sites. Further, most own more than one shop, some multiple dozens of them. A ban at one shop could easily be applied to several others. Perhaps he was foolish enough to out himself. I'll leave the punditry on whether to post the letter or not to other members. The question I would ask myself is, "What value is there in posting the letter here?" It may out the guy and affect business at the affected shops. Might lead the guy to change monikers, if he hasn't changed it many times already.

In the end a dick will be a dick no matter whether the anonymity of this board protects him or not.

If he is such a bad client that a shop is asking someone to post a letter for them about it, he most likely is doing the things that he is doing since he gets off on the power trip. He also may be doing what he is doing because he feels like he can get away with it. I would let the at op decide based on the information provided, since if the guy in question is posting fake information to get back at a girl or a shop, and continual does it, that's a pretty douche thing to do. It also doesn't help the other members, since other members may start visiting that establishment with expectations, and get upset with the girls when the girls do not offer what he claims they offer.

[Dante420]

I'm not seeing a reason you couldn't post for her, at least this kind of post.

I'm guessing, her spa isn't FS, and he's posting reviews with FS? Am a little curious how she would know / suspect him, or better yet, how she would share his details with other spas, unless something about him is fairly unique.

Most MP's have cameras in the public areas, so they likely took a screen shot of him and shared his image with other locations. Many MP's own multiple locations are are friendly with each other, so it is not too surprising that they are able to share this information. The girls talk to each other and are in several group texts to share availability and information, so it is not super surprising if he is a terrible client, and they want to inform other locations to prevent them from having similar issues or run-ins with him. They generally try to protect their own as best they can to keep their workers safe.

[Mr Plumber]

Curious if I can or should post this?

So apparently a member here has been harassing a particular spa and some of the girls that work here because the spa owner banned him and notified other spas in the area of what he did so they have banned him too. She asked me if I was a member here. When I told her yes she asked if I would post a letter from her to the rest of us explaining what he is doing. Fake reviews, fake accounts, fake posts, etc. Even leaving fake yelp reviews. I told her I would check here first.

Massage shop owners know and monitor what's said here and other review sites. Further, most own more than one shop, some multiple dozens of them. A ban at one shop could easily be applied to several others. Perhaps he was foolish enough to out himself. I'll leave the punditry on whether to post the letter or not to other members. The question I would ask myself is, "What value is there in posting the letter here?" It may out the guy and affect business at the affected shops. Might lead the guy to change monikers, if he hasn't changed it many times already.

In the end a dick will be a dick no matter whether the anonymity of this board protects him or not.

[VoodooChile]

I'm not seeing a reason you couldn't post for her, at least this kind of post.

I'm guessing, her spa isn't FS, and he's posting reviews with FS? Am a little curious how she would know / suspect him, or better yet, how she would share his details with other spas, unless something about him is fairly unique.

He has been a regular with many of the girls in the nuru scene, as well as a regular with the spa owner I am referring to for years. He had an incident with one of the girls that got him banned. Now he is spreading absolute lie after lie on every board, review site, like I said even yelp. It's not hard at all to spot his fake accounts once you know the details of the situation. And anyone here that calls him out on it either gets banned from the site or accused of being her. I've been watching it and have since become pretty good friends with this spa owner and it is a bit ridiculous. A 60 year old man behaving like he's in jr high school. It's embarrassing actually. She just wants to let all of the other clients understand why her screening has changed and clear the air on what he is doing and why he is doing it. She's actually kind of thankful he's been such a tool, it has improved her shop and her processes dramatically. LOL.

After she told me what she told me, I went back and started reading his posts, reviews, etc. It's so blatantly obvious what's real and what's fake. Even the fake accounts he creates to post reviews stand out like a sore thumb. I dislike drama as much as the rest of you but it's tough to watch someone's good name and reputation being dragged through the mud with lie after lie by a scorned keyboard warrior. I will talk to her again and think about posting her letter. I just don't want to have an admin upset with me is all.

[Oc Amper]

Curious if I can or should post this?

So apparently a member here has been harassing a particular spa and some of the girls that work here because the spa owner banned him and notified other spas in the area of what he did so they have banned him too. She asked me if I was a member here. When I told her yes she asked if I would post a letter from her to the rest of us explaining what he is doing. Fake reviews, fake accounts, fake posts, etc. Even leaving fake yelp reviews. I told her I would check here first.

I'm not seeing a reason you couldn't post for her, at least this kind of post.

I'm guessing, her spa isn't FS, and he's posting reviews with FS? Am a little curious how she would know / suspect him, or better yet, how she would share his details with other spas, unless something about him is fairly unique.

[VoodooChile]

Curious if I can or should post this?

So apparently a member here has been harassing a particular spa and some of the girls that work here because the spa owner banned him and notified other spas in the area of what he did so they have banned him too. She asked me if I was a member here. When I told her yes she asked if I would post a letter from her to the rest of us explaining what he is doing. Fake reviews, fake accounts, fake posts, etc. Even leaving fake yelp reviews. I told her I would check here first.