Rants and Stupid shit in Orange County

[Grimmy23]

I've never heard of it happening around here, but I have heard of the tactic where cops scout out guys leaving an MP, then pull them over a couple blocks away for some bullshit traffic violation. If I'm not mistaken that happened to Kraft in the Orchids of Asia thing in Florida. Most people are going to commit some kind of driving violation or another at some point, even if it's going 1 MPH over the speed limit. So they pull you over for the ticket, and then give you shit about coming out of the MP. For some guys it could be trouble with the family right there, having to explain how you got a traffic ticket in a part of town you had no business being in. So I wouldn't at all put it past cops to pull the same shit here if they saw a ripe opportunity.

[Oc Amper]

Yes AMPs should just keep to their 30 minutes or 60 minutes.

Let's be honest everyone's done in 15 minutes or so. So yah. It's obvious the haters or a rival shop / ex AMP girl will ruin a busy shop. BTW looks like hypno and green shop which is literally across from shell / del taco, saw a Tustin pig pull over someone leaving hypno right before he got on the 55 freeway. No puss is worth a ticket let alone a sex offender ticket. So you horny guys. Keep going to those places. Just saying.

Probably it was Santa Ana PD. All the same, not sure what a 'sex offender ticket' would be in this situation. Assuming it was a man, police wrote some kind of moving violation, having nothing to do with the parlor.

Now, having said that much, the moving violation was likely for crossing a double yellow, or the double white lines, either way, it's a violation. Doubt the PD wrote both and only a violation for crossing the double yellow lines in the center of the street.

So, careful guys, coming / going from here. Too easy to cross the double yellow and have to pay for the citation.

[AlCapone2006]

So, a Tustin cop out of his jurisdiction saw a guy walk out of a legal business and pulled him over to give him a "sex offender" motor vehicle citation that is not even thing?

AMAZING! 🤦🏻

Don't know why you so mad? I assumed it's Tustin but I guess it's Santa Ana, but hey buddy take whatever info you want. It it happens to you or not. Who cares? I'm not deterring anyone from going to these 2 shops across from one another.

This place forum is to share info. Whether you believe it or not Good luck mate.

[LC310]

2007 Feb article. Six officers involved.

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-...d10-story.html

Stunning how Inglewood has a 213 officer force in Inglewood. There's all your taxpayer money being used up by the popo.

Then later, 2 of them fired.

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-...d20-story.html

Yeah, it is how I remembered. The origin of the downfall of MPs in Inglewood was noted in the article.

"The internal affairs investigation began more than a year ago when several Inglewood massage parlors and tanning salons were the focus of federal allegations of money laundering and prostitution. To date, 18 people have pleaded guilty in that investigation, and four others -- including the alleged owner of the brothels, Kimberly Mao -- are awaiting trial. ".

Madam Mao ended up getting 18 months in prison and forfeiting $10 M worth of property.

https://archive.nytimes.com/wheels.b...nds-in-prison/

The combination of the Fed investigating Mao and the revealing of evidence the Inglewood PD were getting their dick wet for free at the MPs was what brought down some of the best MPs in LA in regards to K-Girls. It had nothing to do with "BonerBandit007" posting on a forum that Coco touched his wiener at

Oasis Spa
1234 Manchowder Blvd
Inglewood, CA.

[IAmTheQ]

Another way that an MP gets closed down is when the Feds get involved.

There is the case with the Texas motocross track that was purchased and run by an MP owning group who were under the radar of the feds for money laundering. I believe this is the case where one of their MPs were in Inglewood and the investigation exposed that Inglewood PD were going into the place for free sex sometimes even in uniform. This ended up bringing down all the MPs in Inglewood and some that had been there for decades. Until the SoFi stadium opened many of those MP locations remained vacant for a decade or more. The city would rather have MPs there than nothing.

Same thing goes for human trafficking. If the feds investigation leads them to an MP that has been there for decades in an MP friendly city, it doesn't matter as there is a good chance that all the MPs in that city/town will go away due to the attention the investigation brings forcing the city to act. Local papers and community groups love these stories adding to the pressure.

The bottom line is that putting an address of an MP and reporting what happened here in a forum is:

A) the purpose of these forums and the content is what makes the owner of this site money
B) is not going to jeopardize the closure of an MP

The guys that do the code crap are just looking for a flex.

2007 Feb article. Six officers involved.

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-...d10-story.html

Stunning how Inglewood has a 213 officer force in Inglewood. There's all your taxpayer money being used up by the popo.

Then later, 2 of them fired.

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-...d20-story.html

[LC310]

Yes AMPs should just keep to their 30 minutes or 60 minutes.

Let's be honest everyone's done in 15 minutes or so. So yah. It's obvious the haters or a rival shop / ex AMP girl will ruin a busy shop. BTW looks like hypno and green shop which is literally across from shell / del taco, saw a Tustin pig pull over someone leaving hypno right before he got on the 55 freeway. No puss is worth a ticket let alone a sex offender ticket. So you horny guys. Keep going to those places. Just saying.

So, a Tustin cop out of his jurisdiction saw a guy walk out of a legal business and pulled him over to give him a "sex offender" motor vehicle citation that is not even thing?

AMAZING! 🤦🏻

[Taws6]

saw a Tustin pig pull over someone leaving hypno

Santa Ana PD right?

That shop isn't in Tustin, it is right next door, though, but still out of Tustin's jurisdiction.

[AlCapone2006]

Yes AMPs should just keep to their 30 minutes or 60 minutes.

Let's be honest everyone's done in 15 minutes or so. So yah. It's obvious the haters or a rival shop / ex AMP girl will ruin a busy shop. BTW looks like hypno and green shop which is literally across from shell / del taco, saw a Tustin pig pull over someone leaving hypno right before he got on the 55 freeway. No puss is worth a ticket let alone a sex offender ticket. So you horny guys. Keep going to those places. Just saying.

[James D 2004]

Feds are only going to get involved if there's money laundering or trafficking involved. Unfortunately the fact is that almost 100% of our favorite shops are doing some sort of money laundering. They're running cash based operations and I can tell you with 100% certainty that they're not reporting anywhere near their entire income, so they have to bury the money somewhere. That means they're also practicing tax evasion.

For an MP, tax evasion and money laundering are contradicting things. To use an MP for laundering, you can find a bad location for cheap, make up fake visits and everybody pay $300. Then you can spend the money legally and take a cut of the cash for profit. That's unlikely for the small sum laundered.

[Grimmy23]

Another way that an MP gets closed down is when the Feds get involved.

There is the case with the Texas motocross track that was purchased and run by an MP owning group who were under the radar of the feds for money laundering. I believe this is the case where one of their MPs were in Inglewood and the investigation exposed that Inglewood PD were going into the place for free sex sometimes even in uniform. This ended up bringing down all the MPs in Inglewood and some that had been there for decades. Until the SoFi stadium opened many of those MP locations remained vacant for a decade or more. The city would rather have MPs there than nothing.

Same thing goes for human trafficking. If the feds investigation leads them to an MP that has been there for decades in an MP friendly city, it doesn't matter as there is a good chance that all the MPs in that city/town will go away due to the attention the investigation brings forcing the city to act. Local papers and community groups love these stories adding to the pressure.

The bottom line is that putting an address of an MP and reporting what happened here in a forum is:

A) the purpose of these forums and the content is what makes the owner of this site money
B) is not going to jeopardize the closure of an MP

The guys that do the code crap are just looking for a flex.

Feds are only going to get involved if there's money laundering or trafficking involved. Unfortunately the fact is that almost 100% of our favorite shops are doing some sort of money laundering. They're running cash based operations and I can tell you with 100% certainty that they're not reporting anywhere near their entire income, so they have to bury the money somewhere. That means they're also practicing tax evasion. Trafficking does exist but it isn't as prevalent in MPs as it once was. Most of it has gone to the streets or more underground. So there definitely is potential for the feds to get involved as well, but for the most part you're going to find that enforcement comes from the individual cities, and the ones that have a lot of MPs generally aren't going to care that much, until they do.

Bottom line is be respectful to the community. Don't loiter, keep noise down, don't leave trash in the parking lots, especially things like used condoms and porn magazines, and it will all contribute to keeping our favorite shops under the radar. Downey Massage was one of my old favorite haunts when I lived in Downey. It has been around for 30 years and stays pretty low profile, despite being right by a high school and very close to houses. It stays quiet enough that it doesn't seem to bother the neighbors at all. Most of the neighbors probably don't even realize it's there. That's the key.

[LC310]

In response to certain posts in the MP thread about places getting raided / shut down if they get too much traffic or attention, that isn't necessarily true. It certainly can be true, but it depends on a lot more than that. The Fairview shops had a lot more going on than just MPs. High profile cannabis (legal now of course, but still a lot of traffic that contributed to the overall shadiness of the building), a couple of people ending up dead, and various other things going on put that place on the city's radar. And again, this is in Costa Mesa, which is a city that has an extremely low tolerance for massage shenanigans. As I posted before, some cities tolerate MPs and some don't. I know of a few very reliable places in Downey that have been in business for 30 years and the city pretty much leaves them alone. One of them is even right across the street from a high school and very close to a residential district.

There was a place in Pomona years back that some of you might remember. Pomona Valley Health Spa. It was an all out brothel with white and Latina girls. Everything FS. They were a quaint, quiet little spot for years, but residents in the area started complaining about the surrounding streets being littered with used condoms, pages torn out of porn magazines, and even drug needles. The city finally took notice and ran them out. But if they had kept things clean and under the radar they'd probably still have their doors open today.

The Green Sign place could potentially be in danger just due to the amount of traffic it is seeing, but that also isn't necessarily true. It's along a strip of major roadway in Orange that has had quite a few MPs pop up in recent history, so maybe it will be just fine. But say you own a nail salon or hair salon next door, and your female clients start complaining about all of the creepy men showing up to get serviced, and one of those businesses complains to the landlord who complains to the city. Now you have something that the city is likely to take action on. Cities like Orange, Westminster, GG etc are tolerant of MPs as long as they operate fairly under the radar. If they start to become a public nuisance they will take action. That would be my main concern about the Green Sign place. It's not the same scenario as 440 Fair or many of the other shops that got shut down in the past.

Bottom line is every situation is different. Cities that have a lot of MPs are likely tolerating them, until such a time when some politician decides they want their city "cleaned up" and go after the places en masse.

Another way that an MP gets closed down is when the Feds get involved.

There is the case with the Texas motocross track that was purchased and run by an MP owning group who were under the radar of the feds for money laundering. I believe this is the case where one of their MPs were in Inglewood and the investigation exposed that Inglewood PD were going into the place for free sex sometimes even in uniform. This ended up bringing down all the MPs in Inglewood and some that had been there for decades. Until the SoFi stadium opened many of those MP locations remained vacant for a decade or more. The city would rather have MPs there than nothing.

Same thing goes for human trafficking. If the feds investigation leads them to an MP that has been there for decades in an MP friendly city, it doesn't matter as there is a good chance that all the MPs in that city/town will go away due to the attention the investigation brings forcing the city to act. Local papers and community groups love these stories adding to the pressure.

The bottom line is that putting an address of an MP and reporting what happened here in a forum is:

A) the purpose of these forums and the content is what makes the owner of this site money
B) is not going to jeopardize the closure of an MP

The guys that do the code crap are just looking for a flex.

[ArtVandalay90]

The Green Sign place could potentially be in danger just due to the amount of traffic it is seeing, but that also isn't necessarily true. It's along a strip of major roadway in Orange that has had quite a few MPs pop up in recent history, so maybe it will be just fine. But say you own a nail salon or hair salon next door, and your female clients start complaining about all of the creepy men showing up to get serviced, and one of those businesses complains to the landlord who complains to the city. Now you have something that the city is likely to take action on. Cities like Orange, Westminster, GG etc are tolerant of MPs as long as they operate fairly under the radar. If they start to become a public nuisance they will take action. That would be my main concern about the Green Sign place. It's not the same scenario as 440 Fair or many of the other shops that got shut down in the past.

Bottom line is every situation is different. Cities that have a lot of MPs are likely tolerating them, until such a time when some politician decides they want their city "cleaned up" and go after the places en masse.

It seems like when the neighbors get involved, a place will be gone soon thereafter. I remember the FS place in Cypress on Cerritos got shutdown because of the sandwich shop next door. There was a youtube video of a city council meeting where the owner complained about the girls luxury cars parked behind their shop, and how they had a plumbing issue because of flushed condoms. I remember the few times I went there I visited after dark just to avoid all the nosy people next door.

[Oc Amper]

Landlords can be the cause of a parlor closing, as much as any other entity.

Really, the cause of parlors closing, likely unique in nearly every case. Recall, don't recall if the place had a name or not, Monica on Sky Park Circle in Irvine. Place was under the radar. One couldn't just walk in the door and get an appointment. Had to be referred in by someone. BMalibu likely referred many of us. Recall Monica complaining that he was just referring anyone to her place.

During their last months there, think someone had a gripe with BMalibu. Maybe he didn't want to refer this person, maybe something else. Not sure if the person ever got in, but he did write a review of one of the ladies on the prominent review boards, recall it was SantaClaus.

It wasn't much time and the parlor closed. Think the owner or Monica got spooked and decided to close. No idea if she ever managed another parlor. Super sweet lady, enjoyed talking with her after each appointment.

The most funny one, was OK Accupressure. Towards the end, the owners moved it around, from Sky Park, to a place on Red Hill, to Von Karman, One of the places, believe the address was Santa Ana, along the 55, near South Coast as I recall so many years later. Very old industrial complex. They built all the rooms and everything, up and running for a couple months. Went by one day, saw older korean guy, tearing the place up. Apparently, landlords kicked them out. I asked why they are moving, he said "This kind of business isn't allowed here" hahaha.

Green Sign place, like Grimmy says, busy parlor may or may not be a problem. Can see it both ways. Us patrons, we need to be respectful when coming / going from busy parlors. Don't leave trash, don't be counting money going in, don't be waiting in the car observing, etc.

The businesses might have an issue with Green Sign, just due to the increased traffic in the very small plaza parking lot. Limited spaces and might always be full, causing hardships for their own customers. The businesses that are adjacent to Green Sign, could potentially over hear the activities going on, if the girls are especially noisy. That might cause the businesses to call the city / police / landlord or who knows.

Just my opinion, parlors need to keep the customers in as long as possible, shouldn't turn a 30 minute appointment into 10-12 minutes. Sure, more money, but everyone around them will notice men walking in, and coming back out too soon.

Parlors need to look after the customers, make sure they get dressed properly. Again, just don't want things to look too weird.

These places will come and go, often for reasons none of us might ever learn of.

[Grimmy23]

In response to certain posts in the MP thread about places getting raided / shut down if they get too much traffic or attention, that isn't necessarily true. It certainly can be true, but it depends on a lot more than that. The Fairview shops had a lot more going on than just MPs. High profile cannabis (legal now of course, but still a lot of traffic that contributed to the overall shadiness of the building), a couple of people ending up dead, and various other things going on put that place on the city's radar. And again, this is in Costa Mesa, which is a city that has an extremely low tolerance for massage shenanigans. As I posted before, some cities tolerate MPs and some don't. I know of a few very reliable places in Downey that have been in business for 30 years and the city pretty much leaves them alone. One of them is even right across the street from a high school and very close to a residential district.

There was a place in Pomona years back that some of you might remember. Pomona Valley Health Spa. It was an all out brothel with white and Latina girls. Everything FS. They were a quaint, quiet little spot for years, but residents in the area started complaining about the surrounding streets being littered with used condoms, pages torn out of porn magazines, and even drug needles. The city finally took notice and ran them out. But if they had kept things clean and under the radar they'd probably still have their doors open today.

The Green Sign place could potentially be in danger just due to the amount of traffic it is seeing, but that also isn't necessarily true. It's along a strip of major roadway in Orange that has had quite a few MPs pop up in recent history, so maybe it will be just fine. But say you own a nail salon or hair salon next door, and your female clients start complaining about all of the creepy men showing up to get serviced, and one of those businesses complains to the landlord who complains to the city. Now you have something that the city is likely to take action on. Cities like Orange, Westminster, GG etc are tolerant of MPs as long as they operate fairly under the radar. If they start to become a public nuisance they will take action. That would be my main concern about the Green Sign place. It's not the same scenario as 440 Fair or many of the other shops that got shut down in the past.

Bottom line is every situation is different. Cities that have a lot of MPs are likely tolerating them, until such a time when some politician decides they want their city "cleaned up" and go after the places en masse.

[Lift Her Up]

The thing that sucks, mongers seem to have huge problems with correct cities. Green Sign place, is squarely in City of Orange, as is Believe, yet both are on Tustin Street / Ave.

Places on Lake Forest Drive in Laguna Hills are frequently said to be in Lake Forest. List can go on and on.

I agree, there have been lots of mistakes on cities, particularly mixing up Tustin the street and Tustin the town. I have posted corrections to the most of the mistakes I've noticed. Also I've committed a couple of these mistakes myself. In that context, please be aware that Believe is in Santa Ana. See the attached Google Maps screenshot. Orange is in the lighter color towards the top.

Lift Her Up.