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  1. #23459
    Quote Originally Posted by TacoBull  [View Original Post]
    Went to Mesa Spa this morning for a session with Kelly, She got down on her knees for some BBBJ, then climbed up on my lap and did a little grinding while we kissed some more and I played with her beautiful natural C cups. After a couple minutes of that I had to be inside her so I laid down and she climbed on top for some CG. The view with her tits hanging out over the top of the bra bouncing up and down is fantastic. Eventually I sat up to kiss her and she was grinding like before but this time with my dick inside her. Flipped around, did some Missionary, turned her on her side and fucked her sideways.
    Wow! No mention of a Condom! Is it true that you fucked Kelly Raw?!

  2. #23458
    Hey GQ.

    Welcome to the board. And great first post, full of specifics, warnings and successes. Sorry I don't have any intel to share regarding your inquiries.

    Quote Originally Posted by GQNative  [View Original Post]
    So been through a few AMPs locally here in Poway.

    Trying to keep it simple. I am muscular and handsom, so YMMV if you are not. I call ahead of time and always try mid day or 1-2 hrs prior to closing.

    HZ Body Therapy RB. Just basic HJ, older 50's+ ugly women fake advertisements.

  3. #23457

    My latest Mesa Spa review

    Went to Mesa Spa this morning for a session with Kelly, here's my review, cross posted from rubmaps:

    I was going to do all 3 today but I'd like to come back 3 times this week instead, so just Kelly this morning. She has a very pretty face, natural C's, flat stomach and a relatively small but round butt. I brought her a nice bra and panty set to wear for our session. She put that on in the room because I think some sort of renovation was going on in the building, we kissed a little bit and she started the massage. Very light to start with but used more pressure as we went along. I put a pillow under my head so I could watch as I played with her panty line while she rubbed my back. After the massage I sat up and she got down on her knees for some BBBJ, then climbed up on my lap and did a little grinding while we kissed some more and I played with her beautiful natural C cups. After a couple minutes of that I had to be inside her so I laid down and she climbed on top for some CG. The view with her tits hanging out over the top of the bra bouncing up and down is fantastic. Eventually I sat up to kiss her and she was grinding like before but this time with my dick inside her. Flipped around, did some Missionary, turned her on her side and fucked her sideways, then asked if she could finish me off with her mouth. She said yes and I sat back on the table and reached my hands down to squeeze her tits while she sucked me off at full speed. I'm not sure if something was lost in translation because she was very surprised when I came in her mouth. I gave little verbal signals as I was getting close but next time I'll be louder because I felt bad that she was so surprised. I'd originally laid out $160 for her on the chair but added $40 after that, $20 for the CIM and another $20 for the surprise.

    She's only here another week, so check her out while you can. According to Ivy there's another new girl coming tomorrow, so I'll have another review soon I'm sure. If they ever get a skinny girl with a big butt I may never have to visit TJ again.

  4. #23456
    Quote Originally Posted by KingHornySD  [View Original Post]
    Has anyone tried out Ark off of Bernardo Center Dr? Thinking of trying my luck their as a first timer.
    Full of fake reviews on rubmaps. They share the same fake review spammers with ELF spa, JL massage, and sometimes spa Capri.

  5. #23455

    Techniques for Extras

    Quote Originally Posted by Knuckle65  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the info BC! Sounds like the kind of experience I'd like to have! So are extras something you can ask for or are they offered? Or is this a YMMV and may or may not come with time? And what would an appropriate tip be for said extras? I'll have to give Spa Capri a shot as well. Thanks again!
    For non-FS spas, these extras are probably not usually offered, since these girls are definitely more cautious since they don't want the boss to find out or don't want to get in trouble with law enforcement. A fair tip for a nude HJ is probably 60-80 -- although I've seen some girls (albeit very hot ones) ask for 100. An HJ with daty I feel like 80-120 is fair. A CBJ, I would argue 80-100 is good, BBJ 100-120. FS I'll usually gravitate around 140-160 -- You can always tip extra if you really like the girl or their service, and they'll definitely want you to come back and will treat you well! Happy to hear about what other mongers think, but this is generally how I usually think about tipping.

    I usually don't ask for extras straight up. As a newer massage enjoyer I would ask straight up and get turned down, and I think it was just too forward and made it seem suspicious or weird.
    Usually my way of getting extras at a non-FS place is a game of progressing escalation. For example, it'll start with me laying down on the table with no towel, then if they don't put the towel on or do put the towel on but don't comment on it, I'll let my hand brush on their calf a little bit, and then rub it lightly and ask if they're okay with it, if they're okay with that I'll let my hand roam up their thigh and grab their butt a little. If they're cool with all that, but this point they're disarmed a bit and you can begin to negotiate a little for what you'll want. By this point you'll most likely get the HJ offered or they'll just do it. They probably won't ask for a specific amount of money up front, but will ask about an extra tip if they've never met you before. From here, you can feel them up and try to get them turned on a little bit, and if you want them to take their clothes off, be a little playful and maybe tug at the waistband a little bit and ask if you can take it off. Usually if they're okay with that you can definitely get some FOV action, and potentially convince them to let you DATY / FIV.

    While this has worked for me many times on first visit, there have definitely been instances where it has taken me repeat visits. Ultimately you want to feel the vibe out, and respect their boundaries and consent. If they ever feel threatened or creeped out, definitely just apologize and stop pushing. You may be able to get more the next time, but being respectful, kind, and generous will go a long long way. Often times people mention how YMMV this hobby is, and while being decent looking, in ok shape are helpful, the most important things are bing clean and hygienic and being kind and respectful. There are some really entitled and fucked up guys in the hobby, and if you are one of the good ones, the girls will treat you well.

    Additionally, on repeat visits if they like you, you might be able to get some special treatment and get them to give up FS. Often times non-FS spas don't have condoms with them, so its good to be prepared and have your own. If you don't have one, you might be able to go bare depending on the lady. But I've found that bringing a condom along and playing safe the first time or two makes them feel better about letting me go raw after.

    Alternatively, you can go to an FS spas in the area like erma, mesa, ocean breeze, or grotto to just get it all right off the bat without having to do any of this song and dance. Sometimes I'll opt for that, but there are other periods in my life where that fun of finding an UTR girl is a much higher payoff than a fuck with a girl at an FS spa. Hope this helps!
    Last edited by Member #6585; 08-21-23 at 16:58. Reason: Added a few more comments about asking for extras up front and didn't want to spam the board, and a slight typo.

  6. #23454

    Ark Massage

    Has anyone tried out Ark off of Bernardo Center Dr? Thinking of trying my luck their as a first timer.

  7. #23453

    Another Poway

    https://www.rubmaps.ch/erotic-massag...poway-ca-90432#rubmaps.

    Decided to just randomly take a chance, a bit of TOFTT, but at least it's in North county. Only one girl working I found out, I don't remember her name. No massage skills, just body rub, she was kinda goofy and not very attractive and flat. But I was there so went with it, CBJ to completion, down side was she had to jump up to answer the door at a crucial moment. Won't be returning.

  8. #23452
    Quote Originally Posted by Cruzier1  [View Original Post]
    Your story with Mia reminds me of the manager at Convoy. Went there a lot prior to Covid because I didn't know any better. Always saw her, but never got a massage from her. I've only been once or twice since. Mainly because there is a very popular restaurant a few doors down, and there are always crowds of families waiting on the sidewalk. Pre-covid Coco was my favorite. Little black tennis skirt and a sweet demeanor. My first UTR action too.

    I'd say 35-40. That's including the "Asian 10". She definitely looks 28-32 with her little spinner body and cute personality. I'll have to visit again soon. Damn storm.
    Yes, CoCo at Convoy was fun. Convoy Massage used to be the spot pre-Covid. There were also Ana and Yuki. Both were yummy. The manager at Convoy, Angela? If it's the MILF with the big knockers she still works on the weekends I believe. I'm not really into prostate massage, lite tease at the starfish is okay but Angela was great with that service.

    Yes, the Asian 10. I bet lots of the girls I see, including UTRs fall in that category. Here I am thinking I'm doing the deed with 20's and 30 something and they are all in their mid 30's to 40's. That's okay though they look good to me. LOL.

    Yeah, damn storm. I so much wanted to go out today.

  9. #23451

    Poway Area AMPs

    So been through a few AMPs locally here in Poway.

    Trying to keep it simple. I am muscular and handsom, so YMMV if you are not. I call ahead of time and always try mid day or 1-2 hrs prior to closing.

    HZ Body Therapy RB. Just basic HJ, older 50's+ ugly women fake advertisements.

    China Spring Sabre Springs* - Mamasan is decent pretty face super tight body in her early 40's pretends to be 20's and lies about being in her 30's as I called her out haha and doesn't FS to clients but will HJ amd CBJ. She legit tried to date me and let me Bare FS the tip of my 8" . She can be rude but she is about the business. She kind of kept me an extra 30 minutes talking my ear off and probably kept me thinking I would be protection from a shady aggressive guy that was in another room. She doesn't advertise and only word of mouth that I am aware of. I just walked in and she straight up asked me what I wanted using hand gestures and put me on game on how the business goes down. She got clingy and couldn't take the entire 8" so I stopped going.

    Strength Spa RB. Mamasan was petite mid 40-50's not ugly but not what was advertised. She bbj with cfs but no other young women as advertised. I just hit it since I was there. Time wasn't rushed and she let me hit it bare and bust in her but it she was adament not to do it with other workers ever again.

    Secret Spot off World Trade. Advertised 2 young women BBJ FS. Both were actually early 40's but passable for mid 30's with banging bodies. I messed up and tried another spot (down below) and now know, I enjoyed myself with this place and it was a worth while investment with the treatment I got. The chick I was with had a beautiful face, nice big C-D breasts, firm little ass and she was a pilow princess. Some moaning, no kissing or eye contact but no rush to cum and she actually legit orgasmed and possibly squirted. My time was bothered with leaving to answer the door a few times which bothered me to seek another spot.

    Erma. After reading all the b. S. Hyped up reviews on this forum I had a rock hard, hard on to try this spot. I called and asked who was working. I had the option of Yumi, Fiona, Cici and some other name. I show up and I get this actual legit young chick with braces which threw me off. I asked her name and if I remember right it was Cici. I thought I wanted Yumi based on the description but damn she is old and ugly and flat. I wanted Cici back but Fiona came in and she was aggressive with the kissing and touching (I wasn't used to that) and she negotiated while I was already standing their nude and hard. Fiona looks korean but says she is Chinese, doesn't speak english good, has a tatt in the center of shoulder blades below neck and had a Bush (not my thing). Bbj was decent but nothing special. She was lazy about riding and wanted doggy. I banged for about 15 minutes all the while she loudly moaned and begged for me to cumm. I felt rushed. Not going back for what I spent.

    I'm looking for a latina and a place that lets me cum multiple times in my aloted time frame. As Erma dissapointed and ripped me off for 30 minutes and tried to market a 2nd girl for another rose if I wanted to fuck again.

    I'm curious if anyone has tried ocean breeze or wildwood next to Abby's bbq or ocean spa in kearny. Ads are tempting but lessons have been learned.

  10. #23450

    Soothing Spa Miramar

    Decided to venture out and try something new. Which was a mistake. Saw the ads and I was gullible and believed them. The wrong head wasn't thinking and said ehhh why not maybe it'll be good. Supposedly there was 2 girls, but didn't see anyone else. Also the place smelled like cooked rice, like they were just eating. The provider (she never gave me her name) was for sure mid to late 40's. She did have a decent body, but hairy Bush, A cups with an ok face. This place is located behind the 24 hour fitness. Once I entered I saw the gate which was a cue to me there extras were available. Did only 30 min as I was feeling place out. Lackluster massage with light teasing. Upon flip asked what I wanted and decided to give everything a try. Covered BJ with covered FS. Took it like a dead fish. The BJ was halfway decent, but took a while for me to get up. Overall service was bleh or as the youngings would say "mid. " I'm blanking on pricing as I did this earlier in the month. I wouldn't return though.

  11. #23449
    Quote Originally Posted by BigCoomer  [View Original Post]
    You can definitely get something a bit closer to an fbsm at Hans! I've gone there a few times and have always been able to have the clothes come off during the massage or after. While I've never tried for FS or a BJ, I've always been able to DATY / FIV and get an HJ finish. It's always fun there when I'm not in an FS mood, they always seem to enjoy the fun. For just a HE, 60 seems fair imo.

    BTW, just wanted to toss Spa Capri that's just down the road from Hans as another spa with good non-FS fun and really attractive girls. I'm working on a couple girls there and it feels like I might be able to get FS out of them eventually but we'll see.
    Thanks for the info BC! Sounds like the kind of experience I'd like to have! So are extras something you can ask for or are they offered? Or is this a YMMV and may or may not come with time? And what would an appropriate tip be for said extras? I'll have to give Spa Capri a shot as well. Thanks again!

  12. #23448

    Asian 10

    Quote Originally Posted by RChangDatyKing  [View Original Post]
    Hey Cruzier! I remembered YoYo. She was fun. There was another one I was seeing there with nice boobs but I can't remember her name now. Anyways, the "manager" is Mia. The times I've been in she's always been the one to greet me so I assumed she's the manager. Every time I ask if she will give me a massage she always tells me she will give massages when everyone else is busy. One time when everyone was busy she did take a customer. I just need to time it right one day. However, the 3rd or 4th time I saw her (daytime) she didn't look as "cute" as the first time, but still nice in terms of AMPs nowadays. LOL.

    I've seen Cindy and I too like her. Man, you think she's in her 40's? I thought maybe younger because she looks cute. Yes, I too like her MBC style of finish. Yes, I too would repeat with Cindy. I'll message you another one I've been seeing there. I don't want them to know I'm writing reviews about them. If I mention the other cutie I'm seeing there they'll figure it's me and I don't want that. I want to be discreet and keep trying to see if Mia will see me. LOL.
    Your story with Mia reminds me of the manager at Convoy. Went there a lot prior to Covid because I didn't know any better. Always saw her, but never got a massage from her. I've only been once or twice since. Mainly because there is a very popular restaurant a few doors down, and there are always crowds of families waiting on the sidewalk. Pre-covid Coco was my favorite. Little black tennis skirt and a sweet demeanor. My first UTR action too.

    I'd say 35-40. That's including the "Asian 10". She definitely looks 28-32 with her little spinner body and cute personality. I'll have to visit again soon. Damn storm.

  13. #23447

    You spa lemon Grove

    Need number for app.

    Thanks.

  14. #23446

    Preaching to the Chior

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    The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange if information between men on the subject of finding women for sex. Let's stick to the subject.

  15. #23445
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    Posts: 497

    Change in management

    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewSmither  [View Original Post]
    Yeah it's the one that taco bull reviewed and lobstro. They had a change in ownership recently and I've been loving their service ever since. I like going there too since I'm more up north so the Miramar and Mira Mesa area is more convenient for me. Anyone up north should check it out because I know they trying hard to get customers.
    Does this change affect Arjon and the KM location too?

    I had a pretty lackluster experience the one time I went to Arjon (Miko).

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