Strip Club Reports

[SuperFreakOMG3]

If Alyssa is low 30's now that means she was in elementary school when I had her at HT. LOL Some girls just age better than others, regardless of how many miles are on that pussy. I knew a 50 year old that BI posters constantly claimed was late 20's, and she looked it in the club (though we hung OTC and in daylight & relaxed there were signs).

I assume most stuff posted here is speculation or recycled, unless the poster gives sufficient details that match up with my experiences. Otherwise, you just take it with a grain of salt. Worst is the guys who actually believe what strippers tell them (studying nursing, sick granny, "you're different," etc. LOL). Better for your own cred to say "YYZ told me she was joining Doctors Without Borders so would no longer meet OTC" than to state it as a fact.

Perhaps you misread what I typed or I wasn't clear enough. I'll copy and paste what I said within that comment near the bottom:

"Just to reiterate, this is the thought process. The reality has exceptions. We all know of dancers who dance for a week or 2 and never show up again, dancers who "quit" but eventually come back after a year or 2, dancers who are WAAAAY over 30 years old, etc. ".

Of course it's wise to have skeptical mind, I do. We're all just random dudes on the internet, after all. I encourage all of us to just find out for ourselves.

[Jeep5151]

Daisy admires your persistence, I admire your patience hehe. I'm of the mindset of maximizing my value within those few hours. I might have to try your technique and look at those regular lap dances as an investment and reconnaissance.

Yes I'm also of the opinion to never burn bridges, never being insulting as well.

Curious, do you think the amount you've spent playing the long game is still less than if you went with her price? Or in between your price and her price? Take your Daisy example. You said you've been working on her for a year. I don't know how many regular lap dances or drinks you've spent on her before you got her down to the price you want. I have no experience with Daisy so I don't know her numbers.

Edit. Also curious if you have my experience with some girls. I'll get a girl down to a low (very low) number and I've noticed she'll take me last, sometimes right before closing. This only happens with the popular/expensive girls. That is the drawback of getting a deep discount; she's more willing to get through all the customers who pay top-dollar then deal with my cheap ass later hehe.

I only bought a 3/40 from Daisy when we first met. We talked on the floor the rest of the time. She rarely works so maybe we talked for a total of six times. Daisy is really cool. Her smile is irresistible. Those 36 Ds on her are freaking amazing. She would sit with me until she gets called on stage for roll calls or a stage dance. I never buy drinks for the dancers. I think the quota of selling drinks shifted from dancers to waitresses. Dancers don't care if I don't buy them drinks. The waitresses would half-hearted come by to sell drinks knowing I'll say no. I occasionally tip them so I don't look too much like a deadbeat.

[PelicanT99]

…."I'm going to stop dancing before I'm 30." 20% of dancers think this way, usual age is early to mid-twenties. Alyssa and Suki are in this group...

If Alyssa is low 30's now that means she was in elementary school when I had her at HT. LOL Some girls just age better than others, regardless of how many miles are on that pussy. I knew a 50 year old that BI posters constantly claimed was late 20's, and she looked it in the club (though we hung OTC and in daylight & relaxed there were signs).

I assume most stuff posted here is speculation or recycled, unless the poster gives sufficient details that match up with my experiences. Otherwise, you just take it with a grain of salt. Worst is the guys who actually believe what strippers tell them (studying nursing, sick granny, "you're different," etc. LOL). Better for your own cred to say "YYZ told me she was joining Doctors Without Borders so would no longer meet OTC" than to state it as a fact.

[SuperFreakOMG3]

I know they quit, but anyone know why? Just curious.

From numerous convos with dancers, I'd say the majority of dancers have 1 of 2 thought processes on when to quit from dancing:

"I'm only going to do this for a year max." 80% of dancers think this way, usual age are late teens to early twenties. Some follow through, most don't. The reason why most go over 1 year is they don't put the required time and focus on their "master plan", whether that be finishing school, getting their legit business up and running, finding a decent-paying normal job, baby-daddy making parole or getting out of jail, etc. The money is way too fast and easy for them to just leave it on the table, especially when they realize their biggest asset is their looks and youth, and they have no real skillset for the real world. A good number of dancers have kids and need the money ASAP. Some girls have families who desperately need the money (deadbeat relatives living with them, sick parents, etc.) Get as much money as they can then bounce and figure out the rest later.

"I'm going to stop dancing before I'm 30." 20% of dancers think this way, usual age is early to mid-twenties. Alyssa and Suki are in this group. Most follow through, some don't. Usually in their late twenties, these girls start to really put time and focus into their "master plan", they're over the partying and fast lifestyle and realize being a lower to middle-class wife to a clueless simp or a toxic but stable husband is probably their best bet (common), they get picked up by a $50 k per month baller (rare), they're mentally done selling their body to guys they'd never even look at twice in public (very common), etc.

Just to reiterate, this is the thought process. The reality has exceptions. We all know of dancers who dance for a week or 2 and never show up again, dancers who "quit" but eventually come back after a year or 2, dancers who are WAAAAY over 30 years old, etc.

I wish Alyssa and Suki would make a return ever once in a while like Ella does.

I would love to have another VIP with Alyssa just having all those memories of that girl.

Alyssa is now in Portland OR in the weed biz with her brother(s?).

Suki is now in LA doing eyelashes. Some say she has a bf, others say fiance, I say who gives a shit she's gone hehe.

Having said all that, are their returns possible? Sure. Probable? I wouldn't bet on it.

Roxy, Paris, Josie, Sadie (new) seemed to me LOOKING VERY BEAUTIFUL TO MY TASTES. Paris, now does she give VIP extra dances? ?

Roxy. Some say yes, some say no. I've tried to do recon myself but she's always booked up.

Josie. No Experience.

Sadie. NE.

Paris. Yes.

[SuperFreakOMG3]

I normally ask the girl what she is offering in VIP on the last song of a regular lap dance. I'll have a number in mind and if I can't get her below the number, then I will politely decline and tell her we can try again next time. I won't burn my bridges with her and will play the long game. Most of the girls I'm seeing took a few tries. Like with Daisy at Synn, I've been talking with her in a course of a full year. We were always too far apart to agree on anything but we always kept it cordial. Recently she came to me and asked if I want to buy a dance. I told her I don't have the kind of money she wants and all i got is this much. She told me to pay for a 15 minutes VIP and tip her the rest. I was thrill to finally bag her. After the dance, she told me she admire my persistence.

Daisy admires your persistence, I admire your patience hehe. I'm of the mindset of maximizing my value within those few hours. I might have to try your technique and look at those regular lap dances as an investment and reconnaissance.

Yes I'm also of the opinion to never burn bridges, never being insulting as well.

Curious, do you think the amount you've spent playing the long game is still less than if you went with her price? Or in between your price and her price? Take your Daisy example. You said you've been working on her for a year. I don't know how many regular lap dances or drinks you've spent on her before you got her down to the price you want. I have no experience with Daisy so I don't know her numbers.

Edit. Also curious if you have my experience with some girls. I'll get a girl down to a low (very low) number and I've noticed she'll take me last, sometimes right before closing. This only happens with the popular/expensive girls. That is the drawback of getting a deep discount; she's more willing to get through all the customers who pay top-dollar then deal with my cheap ass later hehe.

[Jeep5151]

DO YOUR NEGOTIATING ON THE FLOOR! Particularly with girls you have no rapport with / girls you've never danced with prior. Know exactly what you're receiving as the customer, what the dancer is doing as a provider, and the exact amount of money / cash / green / paper / duckets / lettuce / bread / skrill / moolah involved between both parties. Do this before even standing up to go pay for the VIP. Trust me, it hurts a lot more thinking about the money you lost than it is when you see her walk away dissatisfied with the price you want.

I normally ask the girl what she is offering in VIP on the last song of a regular lap dance. I'll have a number in mind and if I can't get her below the number, then I will politely decline and tell her we can try again next time. I won't burn my bridges with her and will play the long game. Most of the girls I'm seeing took a few tries. Like with Daisy at Synn, I've been talking with her in a course of a full year. We were always too far apart to agree on anything but we always kept it cordial. Recently she came to me and asked if I want to buy a dance. I told her I don't have the kind of money she wants and all i got is this much. She told me to pay for a 15 minutes VIP and tip her the rest. I was thrill to finally bag her. After the dance, she told me she admire my persistence.

[XBiker]

In this situation, tell the girl to forget the extras and just give you nice sexy dance. If she doesn't want to give a clean dance or does a bunch of air dancing, end it early and tell mgmt she's refusing to provide a dance. In 2 situations where I turned down overpriced extras and got a bad attitude dance, I complained and got comped a VIP with another dancer of my choice.

Sometimes a manager in the past the consider getting naked is enough for a dance. So, if you get an air dance, you might not get comp for that. I know it's BS, but sometimes they will side with the dancer.

[GreenB909]

They both found BFs ❤65039; 💍.

Yikes. I mean, good for them.

[Pusclicious]

They both found BFs ❤65039; 💍.

You are just speculating brotha. You have no clue why they really quit.

[StrawHat888]

I know they quit, but anyone know why? Just curious.

They both found BFs.

[GreenB909]

I wish Alyssa and Suki would make a return ever once in a while like Ella does.

I would love to have another VIP with Alyssa just having all those memories of that girl.

I know they quit, but anyone know why? Just curious.

[BoneRanger22]

I wish Alyssa and Suki would make a return ever once in a while like Ella does.

I would love to have another VIP with Alyssa just having all those memories of that girl.

[Fruit Cake]

Roxy, Paris, Josie, Sadie (new) seemed to me LOOKING VERY BEAUTIFUL TO MY TASTES. Paris, now does she give VIP extra dances? ?

[Roland2418]

In this situation, tell the girl to forget the extras and just give you nice sexy dance. If she doesn't want to give a clean dance or does a bunch of air dancing, end it early and tell mgmt she's refusing to provide a dance. In 2 situations where I turned down overpriced extras and got a bad attitude dance, I complained and got comped a VIP with another dancer of my choice.

Yes, I been in the VIP with her awhile back and she talks a big game but I was disappointed overall with the experience. I first had a dance with her to get the vibe and she was very flirty and friendly. So I question about the VIP and she said $$ for us to have "a lot of fun". This was my fault for not asking what exactly "fun" was because I was enjoying what I thought was a good vibe. So we got the $120 VIP option and started to get friendly. She grab my guy and went for a HJ and started teasing for a BJ but then told me its $ more and $$ total for FS. I guess I got too comfortable with the club and ignored clarifying the terms beforehand because previous girls who mention their standard price usually includes BJ + FS. I was complete turn off by the up sell that I only tipped her the $ for the HJ and ended my VIP relatively early. I later got a VIP with VIKKI which I knew would be a guarantee good time.

Hopefully your experience fairs better than mine with her. Best of luck to ya.

[XBiker]

Chalk it up as a lesson learned. If you still enjoy Andrea I suggest you sit near the bar area and have her approach you. (If time is of the essence or she's taking too long, go ahead and throw 1's at her to get her attention then sit back down.).

Negotiate on the floor. Be clear with your words and body language you're willing to not do a dance if she won't come down in price. Be discrete. Don't talk about how enjoyable her last dance was. Give off the vibe you're enjoying yourself with or without her dance. If she is willing to walk away as well, let her know "No problem, let me know if you change your mind I'll be right here. ".

Your UK accent probably sounds like money to girls anyway. Watch some US movies and get an American accent LOL.

Something I do is not carry more then I willing to spend. I break that down by how much I'm willing to spend per VIP including tips and keep it separate. So, when I'm paying for something, like a drink, the dancers don't see a huge wad of cash. You can tell her that you only have so much on you, and if she asks you show her, she only sees the smaller amount in your wallet. This way if she attempts to renegotiation with you in the VIP, you have away to shut her down. Take the temptation out of the equation.

Also, NEVER take your credit and bank cards into the VIP.