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  1. #24622

    Great Widom

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDrowned  [View Original Post]
    But in the interest of fair play, I have seen my fair share of ladies who provide mediocre service and then demand a plate of mithril when they are only worth the silver of steel at most.

    There's nothing wrong with this monger choosing to walk away with HIS hard earned cash when he feels he's being swindled, and while I would have agreed with your post prepandemic; GPS has affected this land like a blight upon the earth.
    TD,

    Lots of gems in your post above, I generally agreed with PJ initially as those of us who have been out here for a while, know what we are going for when we go to an AMP. For me personally, I have done the 360 of being in this game exceeding a decade LOL. I settled for AMP's as I find its quite an affordable way to get a decent massage and as they say, either a happy ending of a nice dream. And also, I am far too old now to be playing "mission impossible or possible" at hotels or questionable locations! I had a "proper" massage place I used to frequent and massage plus tip usually set me back $. 8 and nothing happy at the end. (well a bottle of water and a cup of herbal tea) LOL that used to (before inflation as you noted) give me two good trips to an AMP.

    You hit the nail on the head with several good points, I try to narrow my AMP visits to a handful of places to create a rapport and in most cases get better service, but that also does not always serve as a guarantee. What is a guarantee, is the NOVA area is superlatively flush with AMP's one should definitely be able to find a few that are not pushy and meet the need. If one location flames out, there are usually 10 others to chose from.

    One thing I will note is, read the forum for goodness sake! With the great information posted here daily by the adventurists, you should be able to find a number of great AMP's to visit and frequent, but of course, you occasionally will need to TOFTT so we can continue to get great info. I have been to a few AMP's that I will certainly not revisit.

    Prices have most certainly gone up, I do feel they are still trying somewhat to recover from the pandemic as the greater number of them shut down, I recall having to suffer through a few massages by Mamasans during the Covid! One last last point I'd make, most of the AMP's out there also want repeat business, so one can call up the locations and speak to the mamasan. A few adventurist have totally slammed AMP's and I don't believe that is fair, I have also gotten some of the best massages I have ever had at an AMP, in fact that is why I stopped shelling out $. 8 for a visit.

    Fun fact, I found an AMP I visited in the same complex as my usual massage spot and one day leaving the AMP, my "regular" masseuse saw me and asked what I was doing there as I had not called! Oh just driving by in the area. I am sure she saw my gleaming oily arms, but she said nothing, needless to say, as I said above with the embarrassment of AMP's we have I didn't need to go back there again!

    As you always say, always be nice to the ladies, almost retired, but not quite yet!

  2. #24621
    What was the total damage for Nuru with Sophie?

    Quote Originally Posted by OldBoomer  [View Original Post]
    KK is a reliable good service Thai masseuse and provider. So is Sophie. Sophie provides my personal favorite Nuru. She uses real Nuru gel and will slip and slide you top and bottom.

    My last time with kk was years ago. For some reason we did I not click, but she is a solid provider.

  3. #24620

    I do not think you are wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by PuntaJaco43  [View Original Post]
    Sorry but I totally disagree. You visited two AMPs and managed to totally piss everyone off. If you want a good massage go to Massage Envy or reaserch the Forum for providers that give CMT level service. The spas that you are frequenting provide sexual enjoyment. The massage is a prelude to sex or intimacy, its fore play. That's what these woman are there for and they make their living off tips. They provide us a valued service and they enhance the hobby. I think you should try harder and be more engaging. Chat them up and get to know about their lives, be respectful and generous and maybe the honey 🍯 will flow. You will both benefit.

    Sorry to all for the outburst, I rarely would crittize but as some of you know I am 4 weeks out of total knee replacement surgery. I am horny and I am pissed and I am bored and even more horny as the days pass. I am stuck at home and just now getting out to the office. What an ordeal!

    Always be nice to the ladies (that's not my line).

    Regards.

    Pj.
    But in the interest of fair play, I have seen my fair share of ladies who provide mediocre service and then demand a plate of mithril when they are only worth the silver of steel at most.

    There's nothing wrong with this monger choosing to walk away with HIS hard earned cash when he feels he's being swindled, and while I would have agreed with your post prepandemic; GPS has affected this land like a blight upon the earth. From my own experience I do notice that on average I am paying about $40-60 more for the same service I was getting 5 years prior, and perhaps you can chalk it up to inflation but in the most comical of ironies I often joke that I used to get better service from these ladies years ago when I was a 300 lb tub of jello than I do now that I hit the gym 4-5 times a week. It's not a flex, but if nothing else it's given me a bit more confidence in regards to putting my foot down when a 60 year old crone whose diet consists of only rice and cigarettes is going to tell me that a hand job will cost me 100 schmeckles.

    While it is true you do catch a lot more flies with honey than vinegar. The pendulum swings both ways. If these ladies didn't try to nickle and dime every customer and put a little bit more effort into making them feel welcome and satisfied. Then they'd be seeing a lot more of that same customer and build a clientele. It's the kind of foresight of basic alegrara that these ladies lack. If you charge one guy 20 $ below the market price for FS but see him every week. You'll end the month with $600 vs seeing him once at $200.

    On top of that said monger might even come to the board to let his bretherin know that he just got served up something special, and the impact of a meaningful interaction at this AMP could be enough to open the floodgates and get these ladies the payday they've been so craving. Otherwise the poor attitude simply leads to a day shift of just twiddling their fingers or bickering to their families on WeChat for 6 and half hours while wondering where all the mongers are at?

    That all being said. Always be nice to the ladies. If they hound you for a $20 tip it's best to just part with the Jackson and never set foot into the place until there's a rotation. Be nice to the ladies. Walk away with a smile and then post to the board to make sure other mongers avoid the place. That will let boss know they either need to re-educate the girls or get some new players who better understand the game.

  4. #24619

    Poor Form!

    Quote Originally Posted by AznAficianado  [View Original Post]
    Maybe it's just me, but I find it annoying and rude when the provider demands a tip in a pushy fashion. I'm willing to tip for extra services, or for exceptional service, but I don't believe a tip is automatic.

    The other day I went to the 2nd floor place in Noblewood / Golansky. Paid for an hour. Massage was below average, basically just going through the motions. About 40 min in, she starts presenting the menu. After a minute or two of negotiation, I finally concluded that I wasn't feeling it and thanked her for her time. She then starts insisting that I pay her a. 2 tip. And was pretty persistent and pushy about it too. So let's go over the facts here: I paid for an hour, got 40 min of a sub par massage, and no extras. I'm thinking she should have been refunding me rather than me paying her a tip. So I thought it was more than fair to skip the tip.

    Also went to another spot nearby last week, arrived just before closing and could only do 30 min. Received a halfway decent / average massage for about 20-25 minutes (it definitely wasn't 30). No extra services. Once again, the provider demands a tip at the end. This time the other provider came out and they double team me pushing for the tip. It was quite comical so I played along a little bit, and eventually they FaceTimed a third lady who spoke better English in a continued effort to get me to pay a tip. At that point, I was mostly turned off by the rudeness of demanding that I pay a tip, so I just left.

    Again, I've got no problem paying for services rendered and rewarding extra effort. But just a little worn out by the MP culture of demanding tips.
    Sorry but I totally disagree. You visited two AMPs and managed to totally piss everyone off. If you want a good massage go to Massage Envy or reaserch the Forum for providers that give CMT level service. The spas that you are frequenting provide sexual enjoyment. The massage is a prelude to sex or intimacy, its fore play. That's what these woman are there for and they make their living off tips. They provide us a valued service and they enhance the hobby. I think you should try harder and be more engaging. Chat them up and get to know about their lives, be respectful and generous and maybe the honey 🍯 will flow. You will both benefit.

    Sorry to all for the outburst, I rarely would crittize but as some of you know I am 4 weeks out of total knee replacement surgery. I am horny and I am pissed and I am bored and even more horny as the days pass. I am stuck at home and just now getting out to the office. What an ordeal!

    Always be nice to the ladies (that's not my line).

    Regards.

    Pj.

  5. #24618
    Quote Originally Posted by AznAficianado  [View Original Post]
    Maybe it's just me, but I find it annoying and rude when the provider demands a tip in a pushy fashion. I'm willing to tip for extra services, or for exceptional service, but I don't believe a tip is automatic.

    The other day I went to the 2nd floor place in Noblewood / Golansky. Paid for an hour. Massage was below average, basically just going through the motions. About 40 min in, she starts presenting the menu. After a minute or two of negotiation, I finally concluded that I wasn't feeling it and thanked her for her time. She then starts insisting that I pay her a. 2 tip. And was pretty persistent and pushy about it too. So let's go over the facts here: I paid for an hour, got 40 min of a sub par massage, and no extras. I'm thinking she should have been refunding me rather than me paying her a tip. So I thought it was more than fair to skip the tip.

    Also went to another spot nearby last week, arrived just before closing and could only do 30 min. Received a halfway decent / average massage for about 20-25 minutes (it definitely wasn't 30). No extra services. Once again, the provider demands a tip at the end. This time the other provider came out and they double team me pushing for the tip. It was quite comical so I played along a little bit, and eventually they FaceTimed a third lady who spoke better English in a continued effort to get me to pay a tip. At that point, I was mostly turned off by the rudeness of demanding that I pay a tip, so I just left.

    Again, I've got no problem paying for services rendered and rewarding extra effort. But just a little worn out by the MP culture of demanding tips.
    There is a place on Golansky that advertises a lot, the papa san at the register. It has always been a crappy place imo. If you are into dudes, however, apparently there is also a short bald Asian man there that will be happy to help you.

  6. #24617
    Quote Originally Posted by DanteDk07  [View Original Post]
    Did you have vivian massage you?

    She is the young curvy Chinese girl with some big Dds.

    And I like how she is flirty.
    She also has a great ass for an Asian. She said she's worked there a number of years now, so she knows the rules there and will only go so far.

  7. #24616

    Coincidentally

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnding  [View Original Post]
    Was in the area and really needed a massage so I decided to make an appt with "Julie" or "Mai" to some of you. I walked in and all the ladies that worked there were looking at me crazy LOL. Finally Julie was finished with a female customer and took me to the back. She remembered me from the last appt which I left disappointed (no extras) but this time it was much different. She started to oil my ass and legs and brushed against my balls plenty of times. I love the way she uses her nails when giving the massage too. Once I flipped I notice she didn't put the towel over junior and she went around to my head to give me a chest massage with her tits (not big) rubbing against my face. I was getting super aroused. She then put the towel over to tease me some more LOL. She massages my legs and worked her way back up to JR. She "accidentally" removed the towel and I said it's okay, actually could you help me? And she did with no hesitation! Just the thought I'm getting Jr wanked and the ladies out in front talking just gave me a rush and I blew everywhere. She asked me to pay her in the back instead of the front because of customers getting haircuts. House fee for one hr is. 7 and I tipped her. 2.

    So far for the nail / beauty salon places this ranks number one for me in regards to massages. But Tina from TK does give a good wanking. I like to flirt with Hannah at classic nails to make her smile too from time to time. My next destination to try is Uneek across from classic. Safe hunting fellas!
    Both Hanna--about 10 years ago--and Julie--about five--worked at Uneek.

  8. #24615

    Tip fatigue

    Maybe it's just me, but I find it annoying and rude when the provider demands a tip in a pushy fashion. I'm willing to tip for extra services, or for exceptional service, but I don't believe a tip is automatic.

    The other day I went to the 2nd floor place in Noblewood / Golansky. Paid for an hour. Massage was below average, basically just going through the motions. About 40 min in, she starts presenting the menu. After a minute or two of negotiation, I finally concluded that I wasn't feeling it and thanked her for her time. She then starts insisting that I pay her a. 2 tip. And was pretty persistent and pushy about it too. So let's go over the facts here: I paid for an hour, got 40 min of a sub par massage, and no extras. I'm thinking she should have been refunding me rather than me paying her a tip. So I thought it was more than fair to skip the tip.

    Also went to another spot nearby last week, arrived just before closing and could only do 30 min. Received a halfway decent / average massage for about 20-25 minutes (it definitely wasn't 30). No extra services. Once again, the provider demands a tip at the end. This time the other provider came out and they double team me pushing for the tip. It was quite comical so I played along a little bit, and eventually they FaceTimed a third lady who spoke better English in a continued effort to get me to pay a tip. At that point, I was mostly turned off by the rudeness of demanding that I pay a tip, so I just left.

    Again, I've got no problem paying for services rendered and rewarding extra effort. But just a little worn out by the MP culture of demanding tips.

  9. #24614

    Tip fatigue

    Maybe it's just me, but I find it annoying and rude when the provider demands a tip in a pushy fashion. I'm willing to tip for extra services, or for exceptional service, but I don't believe a tip is automatic.

    The other day I went to the 2nd floor place in Noblewood / Golansky. Paid for an hour. Massage was below average, basically just going through the motions. About 40 min in, she starts presenting the menu. After a minute or two of negotiation, I finally concluded that I wasn't feeling it and thanked her for her time. She then starts insisting that I pay her a. 2 tip. And was pretty persistent and pushy about it too. So let's go over the facts here: I paid for an hour, got 40 min of a sub par massage, and no extras. I'm thinking she should have been refunding me rather than me paying her a tip. So I thought it was more than fair to skip the tip.

    Also went to another spot nearby last week, arrived just before closing and could only do 30 min. Received a halfway decent / average massage for about 20-25 minutes (it definitely wasn't 30). No extra services. Once again, the provider demands a tip at the end. This time the other provider came out and they double team me pushing for the tip. It was quite comical so I played along a little bit, and eventually they FaceTimed a third lady who spoke better English in a continued effort to get me to pay a tip. At that point, I was mostly turned off by the rudeness of demanding that I pay a tip, so I just left.

    Again, I've got no problem paying for services rendered and rewarding extra effort. But just a little worn out by the MP culture of demanding tips.

  10. #24613

    AMP name

    Quote Originally Posted by Rreemptivecum  [View Original Post]
    First time and I think it was my last visit here. 2nd inside. Discreet location. Inside was dark and a girl smiled had bad teeth. Very petite. No TS. Some odors from hot towels. Sheet wasn't clean. She was accommodated so I could be happy but I don't think I'll go back. Took a long shower after came back to home.
    What is "Fei"?

  11. #24612

    1 therapy

    Was out and about doing some shopping and stopped at my favorite One therapy. Mamasan showed me to room and remembered me which is good. Didn't request anyone just to see who would come in, so far I've seen Coffee, Cream (2), Jay / jade. Today was introduced with Momo. This girl was sexy. Great ass for an Asian, full Bs maybe small C, soft skin, long hair probably early 30's. Told just a half Today and got on table. Massage wasn't amazing just some pressure kneeding technique. After a bit told to flip and asked how much I tip. I leave tip on shelf so no real discussion where I just pointed. She got up said she be right back. When she returned off came the body form fitting dress and was a great time. She also had no problems with a few of my kinks I like and no push back since I'm little more endowed than normal size. Will love a second visit with her. Also nobody in parking lot when I went.

  12. #24611

    Fei

    First time and I think it was my last visit here. 2nd inside. Discreet location. Inside was dark and a girl smiled had bad teeth. Very petite. No TS. Some odors from hot towels. Sheet wasn't clean. She was accommodated so I could be happy but I don't think I'll go back. Took a long shower after came back to home.

  13. #24610

    Boulevard Haircuts

    Was in the area and really needed a massage so I decided to make an appt with "Julie" or "Mai" to some of you. I walked in and all the ladies that worked there were looking at me crazy LOL. Finally Julie was finished with a female customer and took me to the back. She remembered me from the last appt which I left disappointed (no extras) but this time it was much different. She started to oil my ass and legs and brushed against my balls plenty of times. I love the way she uses her nails when giving the massage too. Once I flipped I notice she didn't put the towel over junior and she went around to my head to give me a chest massage with her tits (not big) rubbing against my face. I was getting super aroused. She then put the towel over to tease me some more LOL. She massages my legs and worked her way back up to JR. She "accidentally" removed the towel and I said it's okay, actually could you help me? And she did with no hesitation! Just the thought I'm getting Jr wanked and the ladies out in front talking just gave me a rush and I blew everywhere. She asked me to pay her in the back instead of the front because of customers getting haircuts. House fee for one hr is. 7 and I tipped her. 2.

    So far for the nail / beauty salon places this ranks number one for me in regards to massages. But Tina from TK does give a good wanking. I like to flirt with Hannah at classic nails to make her smile too from time to time. My next destination to try is Uneek across from classic. Safe hunting fellas!

  14. #24609

    Blanca

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDrowned  [View Original Post]
    Not much to write home about. She's in her late 40's-50's and not as "gifted" as Blanca up top. Wouldn't even pull them out just a standard NOVA finish. Wouldn't bother repeating.
    I'll stick with Blance. She lets me nurse on that massive rack and unzips her pants to play with her panties. I even caught her starring at herself in the mirror as I nursed.

    Only issue I have is nailing her down with a time and that suburban house with the kids running around. One time she said "that is my granddaughter" TMI.

  15. #24608

    Friday bargain shopping

    Made it a bargain day. I'm not cheap, just trying to bank money for Joyce's return from MYC. Yes, some of us with shared finances have to budget monger funds so they are available when needed.

    First stop was Tina at TK Nails. An old friend who is long on interesting conversation and one of the b best two-handed HJ's but short on massage. I referred a fellow monger to her Wednesday and the next day he replied back that he had a great time. Just wanted to stop in and see how the old girl is doing. HHr massage rate (really just a 30 min HJ) I'd. 35 and tip is. 25. Total out the door is. 6 and she is the only provider I know that if you give her above that amount she will say you much and give it back. Nice older Vietnamese lady with the tits of a 18 yo. My thing with her is she wears her wedding rings and and lets me wax them every time I see her.

    Second stop Rainbow Massage. Found the ad on Craigslist for a. 4 HHr baggage in downtown Fairfax. Phone ended in 7177 so when I googled the number it came up as Rainbow and Rubmaps even has a couple reviews. Called, drove by, and when I opened the door was net by a really overweight Chinese wearing full clothes. In one of those Chinese stereotypes her face was as wide as tall with a big smile splitting it in hall. Another normal weight Chinese girl walked in from the back and I thought what the hell only. 4 HHr so I paid and was lead to a room and left to strip.

    In came the big obese girl and started the massage. I played dumb to monger play and just laid there nude with my legs spread a bit and my junk hanging out. She just asked hard or soft so I said soft and she went right for soft touch on my ass and balls. I didn't say anything and played it like a novice until she poured oil on my ass and started rubbing it everywhere to get me hard. She then ran out to get a hot towel and asked me to flip and I was displaying a flag pole.

    I still hadn't made a move or used any monger talk but she went for the oil and straight to Jr with no suggestion of services. I was still acting like a novice and put my hand on her ass but she explicitly told me no UTC roaming and no other services were available. Still no mention of tip. She was a clock watcher so as the 30 min mark hit she said times up and asked if I wanted to pay for extra time. The fact that this was the second AMP of the day and no UTC with a Chinese Sumo wrestler meant that I hadn't yet finished so I declined and told her next time. She left me to get dressed and told me she would be outside where I could leave the tip. I was a bit disappointed that even a middle aged whale didn't let me touch her tits and she stopped abruptly when time was up, even though the soft touch and HJ where pretty good, so on the way out I left her a .2 tip and she was ok with that. Total. 6. Don't think I will repeat.

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