"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[SeekingHead]

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...c-48157a5ecf60

Went to text. Offered 250-300 and she said "I do 1000 meet ups. I didn't realize you were trying to pay for sex : / "

I think that says it all.

I've been messaging her on seeking & she sent me her # last night, so I doubt I will even text her. What I liked is she is only a 15 minute drive from me, but doubt I'll pursue due to the GPS.

After smoking a bit & a couple of bourbons last night I came to the conclusion that the tops a girl on SA can ask is around $600-$700 which is what the top escorts on tryst & eros charge for a couple of hours. Anything over that & it screams GPS &/ or a scam.

[AkaToneloc]

I agree with you but I travel for work and have been successful meeting ladies from SA while traveling. It's a totally different conversation than when I'm local and what you mentioned is the blueprint for when I'm in my backyard. But when I'm traveling, I am upfront from the initial contact that I'm in their city for xx amount of days and I'm looking for something short term and that if we vibe well, we can see each other a couple times during my trip. We typically meet at a Starbucks on the day of my arrival and go from there. My reason for the report is I recently found that there were similar reports of her from last year and I wanted to provide an update when I noticed that she has a new profile name.

I could see where you went wrong. Why would you mention "Hotel" to a person that already seems skiddish? I never ever mention anything about hotel to any of these chic's. Once you mention hotel, they're already thinking about a myriad of things like wham bam thank you ma'am. Police sting, creeper guy in a hotel looking for sex. Smh. The best you could have done was told her to meet you at a mall food court or restaurant or somewhere public. There you could gauge her attitude or see if her pics are accurate or if she's a lard ass or what.

Just taking chic's straight to a hotel without seeing or talking to them in person 1st is a recipe for disaster. If you wanted a chic to come straight to your hotel sight unseen, you shoulda hit up Listcrawler or Eros or some other escort site.

[TheAnswer4]

Moved to text quickly and quoted me $6. PPM. I saw a post a couple months ago that said she agreed to $2.5 so she must've caught wind of those TikToks. Either way, I wouldn't pursue unless you're ok with the price. Seems nice and cordial over text, so maybe she'll reach out when rent is due.

https://members.seeking.com/member/d...6-cd4b83cc3395

[TheAnswer4]

Has anyone talked to this girl? We had just started talking then randomly blocked out of nowhere?

https://members.seeking.com/member/6...9-9cc90de40f13

[LouisHernandez]

Add me to the list of victims that fell prey to drawn out months long texts only to never see her. I'm not local as I visit Atlanta once every 6 weeks or so but I'm finally throwing in the towel. Its lasted way too long only because she never asked for $ and her conversations were decent when she responded. Plus, I would be in town for a weekend with plans. So I didn't really care if she didn't respond. But, this time I was in Atlanta for 4 days and got in touch with her on day 1 and I finally got her to chat about arrangement details. She agreed to meet but once I said I was staying at a hotel, then started talking about platonic at first to get to know one another. What?! I invited her to my room and said we have to meet to start the process. Radio silence LOL.

I believe she is real as she knows enough about the Atlanta area. Can't say her pics are legit except all pics she sent were identical to her profile (and nothing was explicit).

She has a new profile name. BeautifulGorgeous - so keep that in mind in your searches.

ToneLoc.

You have to have a cutoff time with texting etc with these girls. Some of them are only interested in chatting. It's how they get off. Vanilla dating apps are full of these worthless women. Read a romance novel sometime if you want to understand the female mind. That's why you should never give out money until services are rendered and not one second before. You should do it for yourself and for the good of the market / community.

[Johnny Mapalo]

Add me to the list of victims that fell prey to drawn out months long texts only to never see her. I'm not local as I visit Atlanta once every 6 weeks or so but I'm finally throwing in the towel. Its lasted way too long only because she never asked for $ and her conversations were decent when she responded. Plus, I would be in town for a weekend with plans. So I didn't really care if she didn't respond. But, this time I was in Atlanta for 4 days and got in touch with her on day 1 and I finally got her to chat about arrangement details. She agreed to meet but once I said I was staying at a hotel, then started talking about platonic at first to get to know one another. What?! I invited her to my room and said we have to meet to start the process. Radio silence LOL.

I believe she is real as she knows enough about the Atlanta area. Can't say her pics are legit except all pics she sent were identical to her profile (and nothing was explicit).

She has a new profile name. BeautifulGorgeous - so keep that in mind in your searches.

ToneLoc.

I could see where you went wrong. Why would you mention "Hotel" to a person that already seems skiddish? I never ever mention anything about hotel to any of these chic's. Once you mention hotel, they're already thinking about a myriad of things like wham bam thank you ma'am. Police sting, creeper guy in a hotel looking for sex. Smh. The best you could have done was told her to meet you at a mall food court or restaurant or somewhere public. There you could gauge her attitude or see if her pics are accurate or if she's a lard ass or what.

Just taking chic's straight to a hotel without seeing or talking to them in person 1st is a recipe for disaster. If you wanted a chic to come straight to your hotel sight unseen, you shoulda hit up Listcrawler or Eros or some other escort site.

[AkaToneloc]

Add me to the list of victims that fell prey to drawn out months long texts only to never see her. I'm not local as I visit Atlanta once every 6 weeks or so but I'm finally throwing in the towel. Its lasted way too long only because she never asked for $ and her conversations were decent when she responded. Plus, I would be in town for a weekend with plans. So I didn't really care if she didn't respond. But, this time I was in Atlanta for 4 days and got in touch with her on day 1 and I finally got her to chat about arrangement details. She agreed to meet but once I said I was staying at a hotel, then started talking about platonic at first to get to know one another. What?! I invited her to my room and said we have to meet to start the process. Radio silence LOL.

I believe she is real as she knows enough about the Atlanta area. Can't say her pics are legit except all pics she sent were identical to her profile (and nothing was explicit).

She has a new profile name. BeautifulGorgeous - so keep that in mind in your searches.

ToneLoc.

[TheAnswer4]

Completely out of the blue, I just received a text from a "424" area code & whoever it was knew my real name--as in, legal name, because everybody who knows me calls me by my nickname. This gal, whoever it was, threatened to "expose" me for soliciting prostitution. She then said she was "inboxing & faxing" (who uses a fax machine anymore? Screenshots of my SA messages of me trying to pay for sex. She also reminded me her "connections run deep. " Oh boy. I'm a zero-drama guy so I just replied "LOL, bye" & blocked her.

Anyone dealt with this type of stuff before?

One, I never give out my real name to any of these girls until I've vetted them in person. Two, I never discuss sex or sexual details on SA for fear of being banned so I have no idea where these "screenshots" she references are. Finally, she didn't identify herself after I asked her to. Nonetheless, I have a pretty good idea who it is, & she's pretty well known to this Board.

I've been generally pretty lucky avoiding the really dangerous batshit crazy ones until now. Normally, I'd roll my eyes & write this one off without concern except she knew my real legal name. Worried? No. Concerned? Yes.

This is a common scam (sextortion). Just ignore it and move on, and nothing will happen. It's most commonly run by dudes in the Philippines, and they're just going to move on to the next person to get a bite.

I once got a similar message, same "connections run deep" line, where they had gotten a couple of my Instagram pictures, as well as some random pic with a dick that was much bigger than mine. I almost was like, yeah go ahead and post it LOL.

[TheAnswer4]

I hit her up and certainly fun to text with. She sent me a video of her getting fisted, which is a bit too much for me, but also some hot pics. I like her face and body, but she may be too hardcore into D / s play to be a perfect fit for me. I am dominant in bed, but not Dom. Anyway I just looked on the site and she also blocked me, so not sure if she lost interest or maybe she does that to everyone once she moves to text?

And she wants me to get clean STD test before BBFS, which of course is reasonable, but not sure if I'll get around to doing that sometime soon. I just looked and I thought we discussed ppm amount, but I guess not. She seems very horny though, so doesn't seem like the GPS type. But then again, you never know.

Just got blocked by her on SA and Snap as well after a couple days of chatting. I am actually a Dom and thought the convo regarding D / s and stuff was going well. She also sent me a bunch of videos and pics with her face, and we set a meeting date for Wednesday.

I'd conclude that this is some weird kink of hers and she does this for everyone. If anyone has success with this chick let us know.

[Peter Johnson]

Showing as in Seattle now. Prob a scammer.

I'm not sure what the scam would be to talk to someone and send them xxx pics and videos for free, and then block them on the site. Not a very lucrative scam. Certainly could be fake though.

I'll text her tomorrow, and see if I get a reply.

[Bill Ginn]

I hit her up and certainly fun to text with. She sent me a video of her getting fisted, which is a bit too much for me, but also some hot pics. I like her face and body, but she may be too hardcore into D / s play to be a perfect fit for me. I am dominant in bed, but not Dom. Anyway I just looked on the site and she also blocked me, so not sure if she lost interest or maybe she does that to everyone once she moves to text?

And she wants me to get clean STD test before BBFS, which of course is reasonable, but not sure if I'll get around to doing that sometime soon. I just looked and I thought we discussed ppm amount, but I guess not. She seems very horny though, so doesn't seem like the GPS type. But then again, you never know.

Showing as in Seattle now. Prob a scammer.

[SeekingHead]

But when do you bring this up? I would be concerned it would turn them off, but then again, all they probably care about is the $400 immediately and they don't really think about the $300 until later when, as you say, it's probably worth it to see a safe guy, rather than try for $400 for someone new and untested.

Although some of these girls want a steady, ongoing ppm / allowance and you may not seem as attractive of a prospect if they are getting less, on subsequent meets. So could go either way with it, but repeat pussy is certainly worth a good bit less to me, than new pussy, so it may be something that I want to present as an idea in the future. But I mainly just care about getting them that first time, and I repeat with very, very few.

It's worked 100% of the time for me with about 15 women since moving up here. There have been a few I have not seen a 2nd time as I didn't want to.

[Peter Johnson]

100%.

This is why my strategy of offering for example $400 for the first meetup & then $300 continuing works. Once your a known commodity & if you treat them good they keep coming back.

But when do you bring this up? I would be concerned it would turn them off, but then again, all they probably care about is the $400 immediately and they don't really think about the $300 until later when, as you say, it's probably worth it to see a safe guy, rather than try for $400 for someone new and untested.

Although some of these girls want a steady, ongoing ppm / allowance and you may not seem as attractive of a prospect if they are getting less, on subsequent meets. So could go either way with it, but repeat pussy is certainly worth a good bit less to me, than new pussy, so it may be something that I want to present as an idea in the future. But I mainly just care about getting them that first time, and I repeat with very, very few.

[SeekingHead]

All good man, and I'm not going to lie, I've had my fair share of no shows / flakes, and I'm sure some of them were due to some other guys throwing more $ at them. It's also my experience that once you've smashed a girl, the risk for them (i.e. Running into a scammer / flake / fuck'and'run) makes it less likely for that to happen. A few them will always jump into the next bed making a better offer, but most prefer the sure thing with a guy they know than risk an unknown for a little bit more $, especially if you make sure they have a great time when they're with you (both in and out of the bed).

100%.

This is why my strategy of offering for example $400 for the first meetup & then $300 continuing works. Once your a known commodity & if you treat them good they keep coming back.

[GoneForGood97]

What's good G4G? I think our ranges are basically the same. My offers range from 150-300 per meet. I have went a little higher for a couple Asians at 350 but overall max is 300 and min is 150. What I meant by bargain bin is if I had to chart out my headaches in this game it usually comes from the 150-200 crowd. Agree it's market rate but also we are very susceptible to lose a 200 girl for someone coming in and offering 250 the same day. 50 bucks doesn't move the needle for me but it really shifts the scales for a 20 something needing money. So the occasional ghost does happen on day of meet. The usual my aunt found out she has cancer. Or the tried and true, dang I just got my period 5 minutes ago. Blah blah.

Judging from your post history, we have spilled the same blood in the same mud more than a few times over the past couple years. Respect to you. Ripper.

All good man, and I'm not going to lie, I've had my fair share of no shows / flakes, and I'm sure some of them were due to some other guys throwing more $ at them. It's also my experience that once you've smashed a girl, the risk for them (i.e. Running into a scammer / flake / fuck'and'run) makes it less likely for that to happen. A few them will always jump into the next bed making a better offer, but most prefer the sure thing with a guy they know than risk an unknown for a little bit more $, especially if you make sure they have a great time when they're with you (both in and out of the bed).