"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[FarFarAway]

First, dinner with me is never $50. Including drinks at a nice place and the tip alone might be thirty bucks. If anyone is trying to take a hot girl out to eat where the total bill is $50 that's a big part of why they aren't finding success. Second, one should understand that there is not really such a thing as a $1 k girl at all. That is just the price she quotes to someone she didn't really want to fuck in the first place. The art is in being someone she does want to fuck. Being attractive (and tremendously important, physically fit) for ones age indeed goes along way but there is much more to being skilled in handling women than just looks.

There are certainly some who are just high priced escorts and their GPS is not really up for negotiation, but when I sense that type I move on quickly.

You took the words right out of my mouth. Absolutely. Negotiating w / someone over the internet is never never never the way to get a great girl for something reasonable.

I also fail to understand the persistence of the 'simp' meme. What do any of those posting about them know, for a fact, 'they' are doing? A significant factor I would wager on the persistence of this trope is envy of guys who do happen to have a lot of dough, I mean really a lot, and failure to get really top notch SBs (which I definitely have, and I have posted detailed information about on this site).

[Wleakr]

First, dinner with me is never $50. Including drinks at a nice place and the tip alone might be thirty bucks. If anyone is trying to take a hot girl out to eat where the total bill is $50 that's a big part of why they aren't finding success. Second, one should understand that there is not really such a thing as a $1 k girl at all. That is just the price she quotes to someone she didn't really want to fuck in the first place. The art is in being someone she does want to fuck. Being attractive (and tremendously important, physically fit) for ones age indeed goes along way but there is much more to being skilled in handling women than just looks.

There are certainly some who are just high priced escorts and their GPS is not really up for negotiation, but when I sense that type I move on quickly.

How much on average are you shelling out to vet on a dinner? $150-200? How often? 2-4 time per month?

Unless majority are keepers worthy of being added to your stable, that can be quite a bit of money to serve as a loss leader.

[OliverNP]

There is some truth in what you are saying, but I seriously doubt you are regularly getting the $1 k girls down to $50. Maybe 2% of the time, but not "regularly". Unless you are super good looking, where they would do you for free, and then doesn't matter much what you said to them.

Anyway, if you enjoy taking absurd long shots, then go for it, and I know from experience that some (more like 1 out of 100) do pay off, but it's usually a waste of time, just like playing the lottery.

First, dinner with me is never $50. Including drinks at a nice place and the tip alone might be thirty bucks. If anyone is trying to take a hot girl out to eat where the total bill is $50 that's a big part of why they aren't finding success. Second, one should understand that there is not really such a thing as a $1 k girl at all. That is just the price she quotes to someone she didn't really want to fuck in the first place. The art is in being someone she does want to fuck. Being attractive (and tremendously important, physically fit) for ones age indeed goes along way but there is much more to being skilled in handling women than just looks.

There are certainly some who are just high priced escorts and their GPS is not really up for negotiation, but when I sense that type I move on quickly.

[Peter Johnson]

From the sound of it she wants a large deposit before meeting in person.

I didn't even think of that, but of course that is likely the case. Or she wants multiple lucrative dinner dates, without possibly doing anything sexual (and would likely never happen). And maybe there is a large enough pool of simps (and "findom" masochists) to have this strategy pay her rent every month, but definitely not for me.

[Peter Johnson]

knowing how to say the right things can get those $1 k girls down to the cost of dinner fairly regularly..

There is some truth in what you are saying, but I seriously doubt you are regularly getting the $1 k girls down to $50. Maybe 2% of the time, but not "regularly". Unless you are super good looking, where they would do you for free, and then doesn't matter much what you said to them.

Anyway, if you enjoy taking absurd long shots, then go for it, and I know from experience that some (more like 1 out of 100) do pay off, but it's usually a waste of time, just like playing the lottery.

[OliverNP]

I agree. Even without the line about not wanting guys focused on sex, this profile would have been a no go for me. The line about not meeting until there is a bond or trust, to me, is a glaring red flag that she wants money to chat online. I always move on from profiles that say anything like that.

I get what you're saying, but I would have lost out on a lot of cheap or free pussy if I ignored those types of profiles and didn't chat them up a little. These girls have their own forums and assuming a certain level of literacy, they understand the monger-perspective of what an SB should be and many of them are aware of this forum and want to filter out what they consider to be "creeps".

Trust me I get it, I want convenient sex too, but the tradeoff of convenience has always been less options, higher traffic pussy, or a higher price point (or some combination of all of the above).

What has always been the crux of the sugaring lifestyle is the wide range of variance between convenience and cost. A little investment in game, knowing how women think and knowing how to say the right things can get those $1 k girls down to the cost of dinner fairly regularly. But it is an investment, and time is money too, so as always YMMV and weigh options carefully.

[AmpFanatl]

https://members.seeking.com/member/4...7-fd1c448045a4

Novahhoquain

20 Female Atlanta, Georgia, United States

Spoil me

"'I'm a Virgo, I'm 20 and I love to have fun! I love to shop and spend money! I'm a manager at a family restaurant. After work you can find me at the gym and maybe a glass of wine after that. I will not meet up with you until I feel we have built a bond and trust. I'm very beautiful, no I am not a fake person or trying to scam you. I'm genuine and typically very social. I want to be a model and also I'd like to run my own business one day. I'm looking for someone who is not so focused on having sex. There's more to a person than their body, don't disrespect that. ".

Speaks for itself.

From the sound of it she wants a large deposit before meeting in person.

[NewAnonymousName]

https://members.seeking.com/member/4...7-fd1c448045a4

Novahhoquain

20 Female Atlanta, Georgia, United States

Spoil me

"'I'm a Virgo, I'm 20 and I love to have fun! I love to shop and spend money! I'm a manager at a family restaurant. After work you can find me at the gym and maybe a glass of wine after that. I will not meet up with you until I feel we have built a bond and trust. I'm very beautiful, no I am not a fake person or trying to scam you. I'm genuine and typically very social. I want to be a model and also I'd like to run my own business one day. I'm looking for someone who is not so focused on having sex. There's more to a person than their body, don't disrespect that. ".

Speaks for itself.

I agree. Even without the line about not wanting guys focused on sex, this profile would have been a no go for me. The line about not meeting until there is a bond or trust, to me, is a glaring red flag that she wants money to chat online. I always move on from profiles that say anything like that.

[Peter Johnson]

https://members.seeking.com/member/4...7-fd1c448045a4

Novahhoquain

20 • Female • Atlanta, Georgia, United States

Spoil me

"'I'm a Virgo, I'm 20 and I love to have fun! I love to shop and spend money! I'm a manager at a family restaurant. After work you can find me at the gym and maybe a glass of wine after that. I will not meet up with you until I feel we have built a bond and trust. I'm very beautiful, no I am not a fake person or trying to scam you. I'm genuine and typically very social. I want to be a model and also I'd like to run my own business one day. I'm looking for someone who is not so focused on having sex. There's more to a person than their body, don't disrespect that. ".

Speaks for itself.

[MacLuvin]

I'm a rookie at that app. It can actually be used for some reconnaissance if you have a number? I had no idea. I just figured it would leave a paper trail on my end, but it may be worth downloading just to check numbers out.

[SoonerFan72]

Scammers, wants you to send money in advance "cause she was scammed before". NOPE.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...0-480f61455db6

[Pharmacy470]

I can do a little research with their phone number with it.

Can you be more specific on this? I can't seem to find C-App or CA App.

[AmpFanatl]

Here is my stealth message of the day for those that don't know. The best search tool I use is C-App. It's free and has about a 40-50% success rate as long as you have the digits. Just a reminder to not have "your" real info inside CA app. I'm aware you were not there yet. But this post did make me think about one of the ways I get so much intel on SBs before the fact. Mixed with some other free tools.

Can you be more specific on this? I can't seem to find C-App or CA App.

[FarFarAway]

Here is my stealth message of the day for those that don't know. The best search tool I use is C-App. It's free and has about a 40-50% success rate as long as you have the digits. Just a reminder to not have "your" real info inside CA app. I'm aware you were not there yet. But this post did make me think about one of the ways I get so much intel on SBs before the fact. Mixed with some other free tools.

I never heard of it, it definitely hasn't been mentioned on this site. It is an iPhone app I surmise. Well I have an Android phone. Any way to get the same on a web page?

[BrownSugaTwo]

I texted with her, but it never went anywhere. She said she lives a couple of hours south of Atlanta so I didn't really pursue it. She did send some really hot pictures though.

Based on her SDM profile, she lives in Albany. Pretty far south, at least from me:

https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/userP...otServerPage=1

And, thank you to everyone who commented about her.