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  1. #7883
    Quote Originally Posted by LatinLicker  [View Original Post]
    As someone who's been in the "game" for a long while now, I just wanted to add balance to some of the HYPERBOLIC talk on here like "there's nothing out there" and "the Bronx is done" that might discourage a younger, more inexperienced monger.

    First of all, if you pick a "short stay" at a CDP, and it's your FIRST time with the girl, chances are, it's going to SUCK.

    Unless you really are a "wham, bam, thank you ma'am" kinda guy, chances are these girls are going to rush you or try to upsell you.

    They assume that if you're a "SS" kinda customer, meaning a CHEAP bastard not worth seeing, so why not get you out of the way, and onto a more LUCRATIVE session?

    I learned my lesson the hard way, so unless I'm really unsure about the girl, I usually schedule the half, even with a new girl..
    Yo I actually appreciate that because I'm a younger guy still fairly new to the game and always had issue with cpd going and regretting the experience after and now putting how you did makes so much sense never had a bad experience with downtown AMP and worth the much higher prices.

  2. #7882

    If I might add.

    Never ever give deposit. This cannot be said enough. I know you will have a guy on here that will come and refute everything I say. "I have a relationship with her I'm a regular, I give her the deposit and she always sees me and takes care of me".

    Yeah you are not the average. You are a monger that builds a rapport with a provider.

    Don't ever do deposits. I learned my lesson. I wanted to see a pornstar in NYC. She was in the 600-500 range.(cheap for what pornstars charge).

    Anyway she tried to finnesse me into giving her 200-300 deposit upfront. Through the apps, PayPal or bank transfer. And than I could pay the rest in cash in person.

    She hit me "I'm only in the city for tonight. After that I'm gone to the next town".

    Than I asked her "what if she leaves before I see her and I already gave her the deposit".

    She told me verbatim "well that would just be my little gift from you. And whenever I come to NYC I would deduct the 200-300.if I ever come back to NYC. Since I'm really busy going and touching down all over America."

    That is when I knew the deposit game was a scam for them to take your money. I call them deposit demons.

    From that point on I never do deposits at all.

    These chicks that are proving in queens Manhattan and Bronx. Ask for 100-50 dollars to do FaceTime. And want a 100-200 dollar deposit if you are serious. Do not do it.

    Also. Be careful with the trannies posing as girls on the female escort sites. They are trying to trick dudes. A lot of are post op. But they are dudes. Be careful. Check the adams apple. The feet and hands.

  3. #7881
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    Posts: 1032
    Quote Originally Posted by LatinLicker  [View Original Post]
    As someone who's been in the "game" for a long while now, I just wanted to add balance to some of the HYPERBOLIC talk on here like "there's nothing out there" and "the Bronx is done" that might discourage a younger, more inexperienced monger.

    First of all, if you pick a "short stay" at a CDP, and it's your FIRST time with the girl, chances are, it's going to SUCK.

    Unless you really are a "wham, bam, thank you ma'am" kinda guy, chances are these girls are going to rush you or try to upsell you.

    They assume that if you're a "SS" kinda customer, meaning a CHEAP bastard not worth seeing, so why not get you out of the way, and onto a more LUCRATIVE session?

    I learned my lesson the hard way, so unless I'm really unsure about the girl, I usually schedule the half, even with a new girl.

    As for the state of the "biz," unfortunately, like a lot of the NYC economy, it's becoming incredibly BIFURCATED between your low end CDPS and your high end girls, with the middle essentially being decimated due to gentrification, among other reasons.

    When I was coming up, there were "houses" in the city you could go to that featured a selection of quality hos at reasonable prices (anyone remember "Julies" or "Jerry's? Unfortunately, those places are long gone, with no equivalent to replace them.

    For those looking for a SURE thing EVERY time, you're going to have to PAY for that privilege, like six bills and up, in NYC.

    Or you could follow brother AbuSabo's route and set aside a fixed amount for mongering, and go in with the attitude that you might blow some in "TOFTT," as they say.

    I am intrigued by the whole Chinese "restaurant" deal, especially in the Bronx.

    That's something I'd love to look into myself, so "Abu" if you wouldn't mind either sharing contact details, either here, or in PM, it'd be greatly appreciated.
    Agreed. Mid tier by that I mean those that charge in the 200-400 range tend to be quick to retire. I think what happens is they only need a few regulars and they are set. Especially if they have a day job. The Low end and High end are in this weird limbo. The 60-100 ss tend to need high volume. And they may not get that week to week so they be in the game week after week make ads. High end that charge 1,000 for example don't need a lot of dudes but there isn't that many dudes spending that much on pussy when there are cheaper options.

  4. #7880

    My 2 cents

    As someone who's been in the "game" for a long while now, I just wanted to add balance to some of the HYPERBOLIC talk on here like "there's nothing out there" and "the Bronx is done" that might discourage a younger, more inexperienced monger.

    First of all, if you pick a "short stay" at a CDP, and it's your FIRST time with the girl, chances are, it's going to SUCK.

    Unless you really are a "wham, bam, thank you ma'am" kinda guy, chances are these girls are going to rush you or try to upsell you.

    They assume that if you're a "SS" kinda customer, meaning a CHEAP bastard not worth seeing, so why not get you out of the way, and onto a more LUCRATIVE session?

    I learned my lesson the hard way, so unless I'm really unsure about the girl, I usually schedule the half, even with a new girl.

    As for the state of the "biz," unfortunately, like a lot of the NYC economy, it's becoming incredibly BIFURCATED between your low end CDPS and your high end girls, with the middle essentially being decimated due to gentrification, among other reasons.

    When I was coming up, there were "houses" in the city you could go to that featured a selection of quality hos at reasonable prices (anyone remember "Julies" or "Jerry's? Unfortunately, those places are long gone, with no equivalent to replace them.

    For those looking for a SURE thing EVERY time, you're going to have to PAY for that privilege, like six bills and up, in NYC.

    Or you could follow brother AbuSabo's route and set aside a fixed amount for mongering, and go in with the attitude that you might blow some in "TOFTT," as they say.

    I am intrigued by the whole Chinese "restaurant" deal, especially in the Bronx.

    That's something I'd love to look into myself, so "Abu" if you wouldn't mind either sharing contact details, either here, or in PM, it'd be greatly appreciated.

  5. #7879
    Quote Originally Posted by AbuSaho  [View Original Post]
    This forum is amazing if you are a lurker. Or if you feel the hobby is dead you get confirmation of those thoughts as well as warnings. Or if you pile on to the same spots / providers others have given positive reviews.
    I guarantee half those dudes who PM you only signed up for an account to PM you for free info. I post what I can cause of the valuable info I've gotten here in the past. Dudes got to put in their own work. I gambled once on a post that had pics that I knew weren't the girl I was going to see, and got a pretty black chick that I see once in a while now. She was posting cause she needed money and after getting cool with her, she stopped posting and gave me her real number. I would share if she was about that life, but she's not for the team.

    There's plenty of broke chicks out here that you can work out a favorable situation with if you have a little bit of game. My advice to anyone trying to leech on here is to comb through all the fake ads until you find a good one.

  6. #7878
    Quote Originally Posted by JonBlogDeer  [View Original Post]
    Broooo please tell me you're fucking lying. Fuck.
    When I first saw the ad for "her" I was tempted until I googled the number. Always google the phone number to see what you find. The results can be interesting sometimes.

  7. #7877
    Quote Originally Posted by AbuSaho  [View Original Post]
    I don't know the rules on posting trans ads but if this gets removed I understand.

    Here is her ad on trans site.

    https://www.tsescorts.com/new-jersey...s/929-325-4155
    No WTF bro. Those pictures are much more revealing I'm absolutely disgusted WTF. Anyone ever get tricked by one of these?

  8. #7876
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1032
    Quote Originally Posted by JonBlogDeer  [View Original Post]
    Broooo please tell me you're fucking lying. Fuck.
    I don't know the rules on posting trans ads but if this gets removed I understand.

    Here is her ad on trans site.

    https://www.tsescorts.com/new-jersey...s/929-325-4155

  9. #7875
    Quote Originally Posted by AbuSaho  [View Original Post]
    You know that is a trans woman right? Just google Unique Balenciaga escort.
    Broooo please tell me you're fucking lying. Fuck.

  10. #7874

    Willing to TOFTT

    Quote Originally Posted by AbuSaho  [View Original Post]
    Yea I get what you are saying. I noticed over the last year the reviews of people TOFTT and seeing what happens with bait and switch ads in Bronx Hotels and Brooklyn has been limited. It seems the usual process for those types of ads is people post the ad and ask has anyone see them. Many users want to see new providers or get recommendations but then don't want to be the one to find them out. They want to jump in after being told everything is fine. With no risk to their capital. Which I understand that is one way to use this forum. I'm glad I was never like that. It has allowed me to build up like a spider sense of what to ask and what to look for to increase the odds of a pleasant experience over the last 6 months. I even just took a risk and posted the review in the Bronx section a couple days ago.

    I think in 2022 my favorite discovery was stumbling upon the Nail Salons. I ended up being the only one to reference them since that review which is unfortunate. They are back in operation and have expanded from 3 locations to 15 across Bronx. One of their spots is at a Chinese Restaurant where I was in another situation where no one TOFTT for me to know if it was a scam or not. Mama-san told me to say a specific order food and pay cashier. The order total was $60. I was given a receipt and told my order would be ready shortly. The civilian customer before me left and I was alone in the lobby. The cashier then yelled something in foreign language. Mama-San came out and let me inside. She led me into a room. She took the receipt and locked the door behind me.

    I was so worried it was a setup. The Mama-san even called me by my monger name. It turned out fine. Apparently they keep a database of the numbers they can trust. And Chinese Restaurants are the second level of their operation. The top level Mama-San told me is incall at their apt/house. She went into another room and brought out three women. And asked which do I prefer Chow Mein, Dumplings, or Egg Rolls. All three of the women were in shape Asian women in mid 20's. I picked Chow Mein. Mama-San told me to enjoy my order and left room and it turned out to be a great experience. Maybe Im the outlier in this hobby but if the risk is $60-150 I think the downside is I lose $60-150 in a worst case scenario of robbery or bad sex. I can make that back with 1 pay check. Upside if I have great experience I can repeat. I have done this enough to where I have 25 different indy women. And now 15 of those Asian spots I can repeat with at any time.
    I'm more than happy to TOFTT on these but I genuinely can't find these places. I've been on bedpage and other searches for months since your original post / advice in September but to no avail. Happy to TOFTT if guidance can be provided. I only like going to these types of places and they're more UTR.

  11. #7873
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1032
    Quote Originally Posted by JonBlogDeer  [View Original Post]
    Honestly unique Balenciaga gave me the craziest head ever. She goes crazy holy fuck so much spit.
    You know that is a trans woman right? Just google Unique Balenciaga escort.

  12. #7872
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1032
    Quote Originally Posted by DubDub34  [View Original Post]
    That's crazy how she's been posting that bs for the past few weeks. Maybe someone took over her account / number, who knows? But deposits are never wise no matter how long you deal with a chick. These 304's don't play fair. They will take anything you send as a gift then try to demand full payment when you get there. Bro your dedication to this board doesn't go unnoticed. You didn't have to do that when you knew exactly what was going to happen. Save the bread for your rotation.
    No it is her. Given the details I know but can't post on this forum to not have myself identified in case she lurks forum. She has to either be homeless or in a relationship. By those two opposites I mean. She is trying to get enough money through scamming for a place. Or she is retired from hobby like is in a relationship but has no job so she is doing that scam. One detail I can give that won't give myself away is that her place by the Bronx Zoo was very bare bones. Like there wasnt a mattress in the bed room. It was the rest of the bed. When she went into the fridge to give me water that was only thing in fridge. It was as if it was a temporary spot either they just moved in or were moving out.

    A part of taking the risk is I actually had one woman from craigslist era Zelle me 110 1 year after I loaned it to her. But totally different era. Italy is a day in day out ad poster. Craigslist chick was a homeless 23 year old lipstick lesbian in abusive relationship. Who answered my ad because my location was a couple blocks from her homeless shelter. And was likely a civilian she didn't even know what the standard rates were so she let me fuck her bare for $50. And I think the reason she paid me back is because she honestly didn't see anyone else in that time period. Like one time her partner beat her up and broke her glasses and she begged me to to a session with her for $20 so she could get them fixed. I may have helped her survive the homeless period in her life. So she felt she owed it to me and paid me back. After she paid me back she was like she doesn't fuck for money anymore and don't contact her again. It was $40 though. Life goes on. I will make it back and can cut her out my rotation.

  13. #7871
    Quote Originally Posted by DubDub34  [View Original Post]
    https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...ronx/118517482

    Went back to this one for the second time and while the BBJ was phenomenal like the first time, the overall experience was not. She had a slight attitude when I got there. I could let that slide, but once she started going down, her breath smelled up the whole room. I was loving the head, but the smell was just too much. I could have enjoyed it longer, but had to stand up and grab her head to speed up the process. I left satisfied but disgusted.

    AbuSaho previously shared that he saw a dude there on his visit. This time while I was in the room I heard someone come out of a room and leave the apartment. No interruptions tho. Best BBJ I had in a while but I got to cut this one off. Poor hygiene is unacceptable..
    The last one the black girl I've seen her Yeats ago off a dating app she had a whole attitude with me this is why I stay away from black girls cause all of them want to die I can't stand them and I'm black myself and I remember she kinda yelled at me and I just walked out never ever again cause all these girls want hands put on them and I'll surely will do it I got zero tolerance for anyone or those dumb girls idc what race she is but yeah I'm struggling to find new talent out in the x which is declining to me like all the other boroughs I guess it's time for a change.

  14. #7870
    Quote Originally Posted by DubDub34  [View Original Post]
    https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...ronx/118517482

    Went back to this one for the second time and while the BBJ was phenomenal like the first time, the overall experience was not. She had a slight attitude when I got there. I could let that slide, but once she started going down, her breath smelled up the whole room. I was loving the head, but the smell was just too much. I could have enjoyed it longer, but had to stand up and grab her head to speed up the process. I left satisfied but disgusted.

    AbuSaho previously shared that he saw a dude there on his visit. This time while I was in the room I heard someone come out of a room and leave the apartment. No interruptions tho. Best BBJ I had in a while but I got to cut this one off. Poor hygiene is unacceptable..
    Honestly unique Balenciaga gave me the craziest head ever. She goes crazy holy fuck so much spit.

  15. #7869

    Minor update on white girl top

    https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...ronx/118517482

    Went back to this one for the second time and while the BBJ was phenomenal like the first time, the overall experience was not. She had a slight attitude when I got there. I could let that slide, but once she started going down, her breath smelled up the whole room. I was loving the head, but the smell was just too much. I could have enjoyed it longer, but had to stand up and grab her head to speed up the process. I left satisfied but disgusted.

    AbuSaho previously shared that he saw a dude there on his visit. This time while I was in the room I heard someone come out of a room and leave the apartment. No interruptions tho. Best BBJ I had in a while but I got to cut this one off. Poor hygiene is unacceptable.

    All I look for is BBJ but rarely find ads worth trying. This one I started seeing 2 years ago and she's been solid. A1 head. https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view...536/2128100763.

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