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 Originally Posted by Sticker
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You hit the nail on the proverbial head. I run a company, and if my suppliers raise wholesale prices, I adjust accordingly. My neighbor is an economics guy, and we regularly engage in supply / demand banter. He's not a fellow monger, to my knowledge, but when we talk about pricing, compared to 10+ years ago, he notes the big differences, and especially the higher pricing on most goods and services post-, or almost post-Covid.
But we're all experiencing that, so I don't have an issue paying $140 for a BBBJ / CFS combo, when I paid just a C-note for it 10 years ago. Sure, we all love a bargain, but we can find that in other ways as needed.
My three cents (adjusted for inflation).
Up until the pandemic, it was 40 (tip) + 30 (house) = 70. Now its 40 + 60 = 100 or more. Roughtly about 50% inflation. That's wildly larger than the actual inflation increase in society. And these girls largely live outside of society in a closed world. None of them pay taxes, and many are not even here legally. So this is a flat out money grab.
I think it started because they were out of work for 6 months, and business was drastically down for another 6-12 months, so they were hurting (only making 30 k tax free rather than $120 k tax free). I felt bad for them, and also wanted to make sure they did not close their doors, so I did not mind bumping up the tip to 50. But somehow all of them simultaneously realized they could get more money. And suddenly girls who were happy with 40 now were insulted by 50.
The truth is that we are kinda powerless to do much. If a shop is seeing 50 guys a day, maybe one of those guys will be one of us that day. So if we take our marbles and go home, they don't give a flying f*ck. But if we chime in to PPS / MMS and to the girls. That we are not coming back or not coming back as often, or we found another shop that charges less. Then we might hammer home the message.
Maybe. I guess there area more and more guys who need a release. I would hate to be a young guy dating a youngish woman now. These guys have to kowtow to get any pussy at all, so a visit to the AMP for a lube and tune might be the only treat they are getting.
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 Originally Posted by Grimmy23
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How do we combat that? We don't really. We can talk about not giving in to demands of higher tips, but the reality is we on this board represent a small slice of their customer base. Whatever we do here will have fairly minimal effect. It might delay the inevitable just a bit though.
You hit the nail on the proverbial head. I run a company, and if my suppliers raise wholesale prices, I adjust accordingly. My neighbor is an economics guy, and we regularly engage in supply / demand banter. He's not a fellow monger, to my knowledge, but when we talk about pricing, compared to 10+ years ago, he notes the big differences, and especially the higher pricing on most goods and services post-, or almost post-Covid.
But we're all experiencing that, so I don't have an issue paying $140 for a BBBJ / CFS combo, when I paid just a C-note for it 10 years ago. Sure, we all love a bargain, but we can find that in other ways as needed.
My three cents (adjusted for inflation).
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K-girl
 Originally Posted by HeadHunter1969
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Totally agree! I hardly go to MPs anymore as I always feel ripped off! $40-$50 door fee and everyone wants $60+ for a quick tug. The massage is non-existent. For $120-$150 you can get full service from a better looking (and younger) chick at motels across OC. For 200, you can get BBBJ and FS from a K-girl agency. The only massage I still get once in a while is Amy at Sakura. She's an Auntie, but at least she gives a great massage!
Where do you get $200 prices for a K-girl nowadays? Everywhere I look, K-girl agencies charge upwards of $320-$400 per hour for FS session.
I do get your point though. Prices have been going up in ridiculous increments.
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Anyone? Had hayden
Nice redhead. Great nuru. Great attitude. She also works here.
Looks like she travels. Nice white girl.
https://nightfunpages.com/come-on-ov...er-30-minutes/
Nuru hayden.
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Not bad
Got a chubby girl w pretty face. Late 30's. Great massage. And good tug.
Think her name was Jenny or jennifer.
Nice round nipples to suck on while she licked my balls.
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Sunny well SA
 Originally Posted by HandyLover
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Went to Sunnywell in Santa Ana. Met at the door by short 60 something MMS. Took $50 for 30 minutes! I was like what? But a saw the hot masseuse so figured ok! Got in the room, laid down, and Tiffany came in. About 5'6 or so, slim, tight red short dress, seemed like B cups, 30 yrs old, and pretty face. She gave a nice back massage for about 5-6 min, no tease but good conversation. She had a great personality at the beginning of this. She then told me to flip and asked what I wanted, I gestured HJ and she said $100 with top down. I laughed and said that's way too much. She then said $60 but limited touching and top up. At that point I thought to myself, I am not a cheapskate by any means, and will tip well when it is warranted, but I am not about to spend $110 on a 15-20 min HJ. So I got up, said sorry that is too much for little service and got dressed. Her personality completely changed, she didn't say a word and she walked out. When I walked out of the room the MMS had my $50 ready and I said sorry to waste your time and walked out. No comments from the MMS either.
As hot as the girl was, I work hard for my money and they need to work just as hard to earn it.
Cheers!
Same building on second floor there's a Latina place that advertises also on BP.
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 Originally Posted by DarkRoomDaddy
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Dentistry is legal in the US, but an implant might cost 10 times what it costs in Mexico, Spain, Turkey or Poland. Apartments are legal in the US, but an apartment in an EU city might be $600 while its $1800 here.
I think the thing is that we have a classic supply-and-demand situation. We are the demanders and the local girls are the suppliers. Some shops realize they make more money by keeping their prices low ($40) but make it up in volume, whereas other shops charge $50-60, but they sit around checking their social media many more hours per day.
In the same way with the services provided by the girls, they have upped their prices. By themselves for no other reason than they wanted more money. They talk about inflation and other bullshit, but they don't experience inflation. They are working 6 days a week and sending their money to China. They are not paying rent, buying cars, going on vacations, etc.
So (as has been discussed here several previous times), we need to do the same thing, and work collectively to lower prices. I do it all the time. When they tell me high prices, I get "sticker shock" and turn things down. I am willing to not book in a shop charging too much. I tell girls and PPS's I would be here every week but since your prices went up, now I come once a month. This is an effort to provide a feedback loop to let them know they need to do a course correction, otherwise they can sit around with no customers more often, and their bottom line will suffer.
Pricing theory is a subject by itself. People have masters degrees in that stuff. One basic principle applies to everything though, and that is "pricing is whatever the market will bear. " As a small business owner, I can tell you that I'm going to charge as much as I can before it starts causing customers to stop coming. If I raise prices and don't lose any business, I'm going to raise prices again. For that matter, I can raise my prices and lose 10-15% of my business, but still make more money by serving less customers because the price increase more than offsets the lost customers. And most of the lost customers will come back eventually because the prices of everything else went up too. I'm sure mongering places are the same. If the girls can make just as much money or more by seeing only 9 customers a day instead of 11 or 12, they'd be all over it.
How do we combat that? We don't really. We can talk about not giving in to demands of higher tips, but the reality is we on this board represent a small slice of their customer base. Whatever we do here will have fairly minimal effect. It might delay the inevitable just a bit though.
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Overpriced
 Originally Posted by NailBoiz1
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$60 is the new norm because you allow it to be. I still get away with $40.
I don't think it's a good deal when you paid $40 for house fee and then $60 for HJ, which lasted about 20 minutes maybe. Not sure about you but I don't make $100 in 20 minutes. So why should or would I pay $100 for a HJ. There is plenty of places that you can pay $80 for FS in OC.
I know everybody has different taste and what they like and don't like. Of course you can do whatever you want with your only, but I just don't think it's worth $100 for a HJ.
Even when I go to BW I'm only spending $75 and I get a full hour of a decent massage and yes I still tip $40 and non of the ladies has giving me a hard time. I know YMMV but again if you allow them to dictate your tipping then you are just accepting it as the norm. But its truly not the norm..
Totally agree! I hardly go to MPs anymore as I always feel ripped off! $40-$50 door fee and everyone wants $60+ for a quick tug. The massage is non-existent. For $120-$150 you can get full service from a better looking (and younger) chick at motels across OC. For 200, you can get BBBJ and FS from a K-girl agency. The only massage I still get once in a while is Amy at Sakura. She's an Auntie, but at least she gives a great massage!
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 Originally Posted by DarkRoomDaddy
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I have walked out myself once or twice. But in this case, she is not too unreasonable. 60 is the new 40, even with less attractive women. So she was not all that unreasonable. Except the bit about not doing much massage at all. Even the worst ones go through some motions. But if the girl is nice and hot, then I could give up the massage in exchange for the beauty factor. Your description is almost exactly Tiffany at TT. Its a fact of reality that a young pretty girl is simply more valuable than an older "5 out of 10" girl. Many of the hotter ones want more like 80 even. I am really surprised they gave you your money back.
$60 is the new norm because you allow it to be. I still get away with $40.
I don't think it's a good deal when you paid $40 for house fee and then $60 for HJ, which lasted about 20 minutes maybe. Not sure about you but I don't make $100 in 20 minutes. So why should or would I pay $100 for a HJ. There is plenty of places that you can pay $80 for FS in OC.
I know everybody has different taste and what they like and don't like. Of course you can do whatever you want with your only, but I just don't think it's worth $100 for a HJ.
Even when I go to BW I'm only spending $75 and I get a full hour of a decent massage and yes I still tip $40 and non of the ladies has giving me a hard time. I know YMMV but again if you allow them to dictate your tipping then you are just accepting it as the norm. But its truly not the norm.
Just my two cents.
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 Originally Posted by BigBoDonk
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Because it is legal in Germany. US is the greatest country in the world, but very late on changing policies.
NO its not Far from it.
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 Originally Posted by HandyLover
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Went to Sunnywell in Santa Ana. Met at the door by short 60 something MMS. Took $50 for 30 minutes! I was like what? But a saw the hot masseuse so figured ok! Got in the room, laid down, and Tiffany came in. About 5'6 or so, slim, tight red short dress, seemed like B cups, 30 yrs old, and pretty face. She gave a nice back massage for about 5-6 min, no tease but good conversation. She had a great personality at the beginning of this. She then told me to flip and asked what I wanted, I gestured HJ and she said $100 with top down. I laughed and said that's way too much. She then said $60 but limited touching and top up. At that point I thought to myself, I am not a cheapskate by any means, and will tip well when it is warranted, but I am not about to spend $110 on a 15-20 min HJ. So I got up, said sorry that is too much for little service and got dressed. Her personality completely changed, she didn't say a word and she walked out. When I walked out of the room the MMS had my $50 ready and I said sorry to waste your time and walked out. No comments from the MMS either.
As hot as the girl was, I work hard for my money and they need to work just as hard to earn it.
Cheers!
I have walked out myself once or twice. But in this case, she is not too unreasonable. 60 is the new 40, even with less attractive women. So she was not all that unreasonable. Except the bit about not doing much massage at all. Even the worst ones go through some motions. But if the girl is nice and hot, then I could give up the massage in exchange for the beauty factor. Your description is almost exactly Tiffany at TT. Its a fact of reality that a young pretty girl is simply more valuable than an older "5 out of 10" girl. Many of the hotter ones want more like 80 even. I am really surprised they gave you your money back.
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 Originally Posted by Taws6
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I like the location, convenient for on the way home, it's been $50 for as long as I remember.
10+ years ago, the girls were good looking, so I forked over the 50 plus 100 but the talent went down hill. Way down hill IMO.
I would go there from time to time, ask to see the on call girl, who would come out in a slinky dress, and 9 times out of ten I didn't think they would be worth it, so I left.
I haven't been back after COVID (do they still have the manned testing in front of the door in the parking lot?) - but prior, for probably 8 year, I'd go every six months or so & repeat that routine, ask who they had, and leave.
Never did they get the clue & drop to $40 - surprised they have survived COVID.
The must have gotten some of that free SBA PPP money.
Yes, the girl told that the covid center is still there.
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Well, first of all they don't have same insurance system there. In my opinion (I am not a democrat) healthcare should be free. My sibling and parents are healthcare workers, otherwise insurance companies charge x10 of what real cost is. This is just a scam, since they are party donors no one addresses this. I am in construction and can tell you real estate costs more because of minimum pay plus dumb regulations. Has nothing to do with geography.
I will agree on working towards lowering prices. Most of the time my game is to act as if I came only to get massage and don't want HJ or FS. Then girls start to offer lower prices themselves, lowest I went was $20 some AMP on Bolsa for HJ and $50 for FS with Lucy. Each time that was only cash I had And those greedy bitches wanted it.
Same regulation.
 Originally Posted by DarkRoomDaddy
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Dentistry is legal in the US, but an implant might cost 10 times what it costs in Mexico, Spain, Turkey or Poland. Apartments are legal in the US, but an apartment in an EU city might be $600 while its $1800 here.
I think the thing is that we have a classic supply-and-demand situation. We are the demanders and the local girls are the suppliers. Some shops realize they make more money by keeping their prices low ($40) but make it up in volume, whereas other shops charge $50-60, but they sit around checking their social media many more hours per day.
In the same way with the services provided by the girls, they have upped their prices. By themselves for no other reason than they wanted more money. They talk about inflation and other bullshit, but they don't experience inflation. They are working 6 days a week and sending their money to China. They are not paying rent, buying cars, going on vacations, etc.
So (as has been discussed here several previous times), we need to do the same thing, and work collectively to lower prices. I do it all the time. When they tell me high prices, I get "sticker shock" and turn things down. I am willing to not book in a shop charging too much. I tell girls and PPS's I would be here every week but since your prices went up, now I come once a month. This is an effort to provide a feedback loop to let them know they need to do a course correction, otherwise they can sit around with no customers more often, and their bottom line will suffer.
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Sunnywell
 Originally Posted by HandyLover
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As hot as the girl was, I work hard for my money and they need to work just as hard to earn it.
Cheers!
I like the location, convenient for on the way home, it's been $50 for as long as I remember.
10+ years ago, the girls were good looking, so I forked over the 50 plus 100 but the talent went down hill. Way down hill IMO.
I would go there from time to time, ask to see the on call girl, who would come out in a slinky dress, and 9 times out of ten I didn't think they would be worth it, so I left.
I haven't been back after COVID (do they still have the manned testing in front of the door in the parking lot?) - but prior, for probably 8 year, I'd go every six months or so & repeat that routine, ask who they had, and leave.
Never did they get the clue & drop to $40 - surprised they have survived COVID.
The must have gotten some of that free SBA PPP money.
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I Quit Sunnywell
 Originally Posted by HandyLover
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Went to Sunnywell in Santa Ana. Met at the door by short 60 something MMS. Took $50 for 30 minutes! I was like what? But a saw the hot masseuse so figured ok! Got in the room, laid down, and Tiffany came in. About 5'6 or so, slim, tight red short dress, seemed like B cups, 30 yrs old, and pretty face. She gave a nice back massage for about 5-6 min, no tease but good conversation. She had a great personality at the beginning of this. She then told me to flip and asked what I wanted, I gestured HJ and she said $100 with top down. I laughed and said that's way too much. She then said $60 but limited touching and top up. At that point I thought to myself, I am not a cheapskate by any means, and will tip well when it is warranted, but I am not about to spend $110 on a 15-20 min HJ. So I got up, said sorry that is too much for little service and got dressed. Her personality completely changed, she didn't say a word and she walked out. When I walked out of the room the MMS had my $50 ready and I said sorry to waste your time and walked out. No comments from the MMS either.
As hot as the girl was, I work hard for my money and they need to work just as hard to earn it.
Cheers!
I went there maybe five or six times, five six seven maybe eight years ago. It was. 5 hh even then, but the service nearly always was outstanding. CFS for $. Then it happened. One of the fine women made conversation with me in the lobby like she wouldn't mind going to dinner with me. MMS asked if I was married. I told the truth. Then MMS said something really evil about my wife. Now, as severely troubled as the sexual relationship is, and I mean gross hostility despite the rest of the marriage being comforting, I wish my wife everything good and nothing evil. MMS's hostility really got to me, and I haven't been back since.
Lift Her Up.
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