Terms and Abbreviations Comments

[Meteorite]

Will remember to attach these other posts to the master posts next time - I cleaned it up with minor edits. Will remember to re-edit as time goes on or as enhancements are made. We come up with some funny dumb shit and we just keep rolling with it.

Video+ = allow video, tip of course.

Squirt+ = squirting, this was just one specific girl. Not many can do this trick.

Bb++++++ = great bb cip. The most + the better.

Bb- = does not offer it.

Bbinside- bboutside+ some girls do not allow inside finish so will note it as such.

IR = Injury Reserve, some times the girl gets trained and pussy is wrecked and you may want to avoid for a few days.

YMMV = the meaning is obvious in most but in this context, it could mean the girl will sometimes allow BB or the girls will sometimes discount CIP, etc. This means we may have mix reports of someone getting it good and someone getting it at standard pricing. Use your charm and your rugged good looks I guess.

WTFBBQ = DK's own version of "WTF" but with more emphasis.


#NBC, #RTB, #BATC all started off as jokes but they have since caught on as the lingo on this and other NY forums.

#NBC - No Bush Club, for perverts that like a smooth shaved or lasered pussy.

#RTB - Respect The Bush, for perverts that like old school hairy pussies.

#BATC - Bush Above The Clit, for the pervert that wants it both ways but mostly for guys who wants clean shaven pussy and will tolerate bush where they are not eating.

#BPP - Bald Pink Pussy, obvious meaning, the best kind, surfaced from another forum but useful here also.

Some new abbreviations from the Manhattan BBFS Forum.

[TrickFun89]

If they have VIP model / b2 b / VIP upgrades what's that mean?

[Chimil Detin]

I seen this in strip.

Club reports. She won't OTC or she will.

OTC. If I was guessing I would think it means Out The Club meaning she will leave the club with you.

You've basically got it.

OTC implies the girl will see you (O) utside (T) he (C) lub. Might be your place, her place, a hotel room, whatever, just elsewhere.

Usually this is proposed by the customer with the implication more will happen OTC than is allowed in the club, albeit still with negotiated compensation. Another way to put it can be "cutting out the middle man". Accordingly, OTC is different than, say, forming a bond with a dancer and meeting her for lunch or coffee. Sounds weird, but it does happen.

OTC usually involves a rendezvous between dancer and customer somewhere away from the club, as meeting in the immediate vicinity of the club / parking lot is usually frowned upon. It might be where whatever OTC activities will take place, or it might be someplace intermediary and public, like a gas station or transit stop, especially if one or both people involved needs transit.

Benefits for the customer are fairly obvious. The true "cutting out the middle man" scenario involves the customer paying the same amount they would for a VIP room in an OTC scenario to receive OTC services not allowed in the club, with the benefit to the dancer being they don't have to pay the club a cut and can make money on top of whatever they made in their shift at the club.

In contrast, ITC implies activities inside the club, notably ones considered to be "extras".

OTC availability depends on a lot of factors. The club culture of whatever area you're in is the first. While there are exceptions to every rule, the looser a club is about rules generally, the more is generally available on the whole, including OTC. You'd think there might be more OTC where there's less ITC, but clubs that are good about making sure dancers adhere to rules in the club usually have a blanket threat against girls' jobs for outside activities, too. They might be a little looser about this now than they used to be, as it's easier to connect with girls on social now than it ever was, but there are a lot of clubs that still frown upon such shenanigans.

Accordingly, OTC is not as easy to come by as it's often implied. As mentioned, the threat of being fired from the club looms for many girls who do OTC, which can even involve being blacklisted from other clubs around town, too. They have to weigh whether the risk to their source of income is worth it.

There are other risks for the girl, too: In the club, if something bad goes down, they can call in staff / bouncers / other dancers / whoever to fix the situation quickly. OTC, with the wrong kind of guy, just about anything bad could happen and the only person who can stop it is the dancer herself. Accordingly, the dancer may want to take measures to ensure her safety, like taking a picture of you or your license with her or another dancer's phone. Because the rendezvous usually has to happen elsewhere, there usually has to be some sort of exchange of contact info, which creates another hurdle, as a dancer may not have a burner phone or social accounts, so she might be hesitant to expose her real-world persona and information to someone she only knows from the club world. It's a weird game, too, because if she thinks you're too straight-edge, she might suspect you're a narc (I think this is a reason I struggle).

Of course, the danger goes both ways, as it's also possible the dancer could do something bad to the customer, ranging from not delivering services as promised to things much worse. You have to decide if you trust her enough to go through with it, the same way she has to decide if she trusts you.

Some girls will do OTC, but put a premium on it above and beyond what you'd pay for a VIP room due to the risks. Then again, especially for girls from clubs where ITC stuff happens, they might charge less than or the same for what they charge for services ITC when doing OTC because they don't have to pay the club a cut, particularly if they think they might get repeat business from you. At some point, OTC relationships can become something more like Sugaring.

While many girls will turn down OTC offers almost immediately on concept alone, it has been said that every girl will do OTC for the right price. That price could be seven figures or more, but "what's it worth to you" is always a valid question.

[AppleBottomFdr]

What does HYA stand for? I've seen it in the context of K girls and / or J girls.

[Its Secret]

QV = Quick Visit e.g. 15 minutes.

SS: I was wondering about that too.

SS = Short Session, same as QV.

[LenovoX120]

Looking through escort adds for the first time recently, I found a couple abbreviations I couldn't find in the list.

SS (self service? Standard service? Idk).

And.

QV.

QV = Quick Visit e.g. 15 minutes.

SS: I was wondering about that too.

[DaveCoffee2018]

I seen this in strip.

Club reports. She won't OTC or she will.

OTC. If I was guessing I would think it means Out The Club meaning she will leave the club with you.

[HentaiNerd]

Not sure if this is super common, but MT seems to be fairly common for massages and I've seen it used a few times in a few different areas.

[PPJones]

UTR? Not on the abbreviations list?

Under The Radar.

Girl working, but doesn't advertise and doesn't like her contact info given out.

[GoodTime Man]

UTR? Not on the abbreviations list?

[Picolo55]

Looking through escort adds for the first time recently, I found a couple abbreviations I couldn't find in the list.

SS (self service? Standard service? Idk).

And.

QV.

[Grafenberg]

Please take out the $ abbreviations from the forum page. The forum's software does not allow for the use of that system anymore.

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I don't care what people use when they shorten words or phrases, however, what I don't like is the whole $ = 100 dollars business. I have no belief that by using secret terms, we would protect ourselves from LEO (Law enforcement officers, OK, sometimes it is just easier) I rarely use terms or abbreviations, if I am telling what I paid, I always use a dollar sign and the actual amount I spent, no short hand, it always seems to lead to a question. I wish we would all, only use the abbreviations list at the top of the forum, it becomes confusing when a new phrase or word appears on the pages, it would be helpful if we could have an ability to update that list occasionally.

I hear you and am in full agreement. I just posted regarding this very topic, but I didn't post it in "Massage Parlor Reports" where I spend most of my frustration time. Like you, I wish the posters would just say what they mean rather than try and follow some secret code, which anybody who reads these forums very much has figured out anyway. But for those of us who DON'T have the ability to spend hours and hours reading the forums, it really would be useful, and considerate, if those posting would just say it. Like 150 instead of $. 5. It was harder for me to type $. 5 that it was 150, but it means the same thing.

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I'm sure I can't be the only one reading these posts and wondering Where is the poster talking about? For example ". Got healthy on Jones. ". And another one is "health spa" or "spa". I've searched and searched, even reading the entirety of a thread trying to find out what place the poster is talking about, but end up wasting my time.

Maybe there needs to be a Glossary for these terms that we could refer to in order to find out what parlor the poster is talking about. I see the question asked a lot, sometimes by Senior Members about where the poster is talking about.

[Member #6770]

I've been seeing some ads on RR etc that refer to "worship" as an add-on. +. 4 on average. Can't figure out what it is and searching the terminology page and forums didn't turn up anything. Does anyone know?

Usually talking about the sex worker taking her time with a BJ and taking her time, and lots of extra attention to the cock & balls. Not just licking, but looking at it and us in the eyes. Some woman just use a BJ to get us hard enough for condom placement, others think of it as the end game. Others are somewhere in the middle. Value for an add on depends on the time spent, 2 minutes was not worth the extra cash, 15 minutes usually is. Especially if in the end, you have to think to yourself if this was the best BJ you ever had, or if the sex worker is moving up your list as a ATF (all time favorite).