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  1. #31400
    Quote Originally Posted by Bronco  [View Original Post]
    And why shouldn't Lucy get paid like the rest of the other ladies. She performs a service and does it well. Much better than any of the younger ladies out there.
    Actually, you are right. Back in the day, the shop was considered off the beaten path. The 405 was kind of a barrier. Between F&C and the other shops on Westminster, Bolsa and their cross streets. Only unpublicized VT was across the street. There was probably was no communication between F&C providers and the other shops. Tips were traditionally low at F&C compared to, at the time, 100 tips in those other shops. Lucy and some former providers got the chance to work other shops (Happy, Bali, CKB, Miracle) Then they realized what others were getting for tips. There was also a time when Lina and Lucy were able to access the massage review sites. So, now they knew what services were worth, even for grannies.

  2. #31399
    Quote Originally Posted by Chaos019  [View Original Post]
    F&C is going downhill. Like you said, everyone is rushing over there and the grannies are raising their prices. Even Lucy is asking for $ or more per visit.

    It's sad.
    And why shouldn't Lucy get paid like the rest of the other ladies. She performs a service and does it well. Much better than any of the younger ladies out there.

  3. #31398
    Quote Originally Posted by Slammer6008  [View Original Post]
    You couldn't be more correct I stopped recommending also. I'll only share with people that I know. Yes numerous times these asshole stiff the girls on tips rough them up a little. These guys don't take showers smell like ass an want their Johnson sucked.
    Agreed I too do the same. Too many eager aholes.

  4. #31397
    Quote Originally Posted by BenderOver  [View Original Post]
    Glad you had a good time BC. Yes admittedly there are cheaper dates out there, and Mia's pretty much upper limit for me when it comes to CBJ and CFS, but she's got great Attitude, the Service is high up there for CBJ CFS, and she's got an amazing touch that the tease is romance in itself. The first time I saw her, she almost finished the game just teasing me when I was face down.
    Yikes 245.00 total. I'll stick to the Asian apartments 120.00 to 180.00 for everything. Nice showers too. Or the El Classificado ads for the 60.00 In and out.

  5. #31396

    Good massage with possible HE

    Quote Originally Posted by BastardChorum  [View Original Post]
    ... these AMP girls are incredibly YMMV. My experience can be wildly different than what you may experience. It's imperative to leverage charm, humor, or any other qualities you may have to keep the girl engaged and interested to increase the likelihood of extras being offered. Again, they are very YMMV and repeats seems to help a lot with it but it seems I've been lucky and fortunate enough to be fast tracked for some extras.
    Very nice couple of posts, Chorum. I completely agree. Recently I got extras from an MT that those I referred to her did not. At other times, it's been the opposite. So it depends on how good you can connect to the MT during the 15-20 minutes before the flip. So I believe mileage does vary from person to person.

    For those seeking a good therapeutic massage with possible HE (but without guarantee), if Orange is within your range, consider Lan at Jasmine Cutie Spa in Orange. She has strong hands and gave me a very good deep tissue massage (had to ask her to dial down a bit). She also used hot stones, which were quite hot. Technique seemed very solid; my back and leg muscles still felt the impact the day after. Told me she was licensed, so she may be a CMT. On the phone, she informed me massage only, no extras, so I went there expecting only a good massage. But on the flip she did offer HJ, which I gladly accepted. She did pull up her dress and allowed some gentle touching and kissing of her natural girls (B or C size) and roaming elsewhere. Nothing else on the menu (FS, BJ, etc.). She was okay if I recommend her (and give her name) to others but said no explicit language when texting / calling her. So if you need a good massage with possible HE, then consider her. Again, YMMV. I got HJ offered, but maybe she does not offer that to everyone. I would have been happy with just the massage itself because it was very good.

    Lan seems to be in early 30's, attractive (to me), and speaks good English. She works on W, Th, and F. M & Tu are by appointment only. 40 for hhr; 60 for hr, excluding tip. For location, Google the spa name above. Note, it's not in the Target shopping lot, just east of it, at southwest corner of Chapman and S. Malena Dr. The phone number on Google is for the shop. PM me if you decide to go there and need her phone number (I got her permission to give out to individuals but not by broadcasting).

  6. #31395
    Quote Originally Posted by BastardChorum  [View Original Post]
    First, I'd like to thank BenderOver and others for providing information about Mia and L&L. Also, I want to put it out there based on the messages I've received that these AMP girls are incredibly YMMV. My experience can be wildly different than what you may experience. It's imperative to leverage charm, humor, or any other qualities you may have to keep the girl engaged and interested to increase the likelihood of extras being offered. Again, they are very YMMV and repeats seems to help a lot with it but it seems I've been lucky and fortunate enough to be fast tracked for some extras.

    On to Mia, she's fairly cute to me, has a charming smile, with a small button nose. Other than her eyes, she had light makeup on. Mia has one of those faces that the more you look at, the more you like IMO. Decent English. 5'7", I would put her in her early to mid 30's, nice looking man made D's with larger than average nipples, ass was a bit flat, and shaven pussy. She's fair skinned. No tattoos that I could find. She's fairly tall for an Asian lady (Chinese in this case) with lanky arms. Mid-section has a bit of a tummy but otherwise she has a slender physique. She does have what appears to be a prominent reddish vertical stretch mark about 3 inches in length near her navel. Lastly, hygiene seems really important to her. Washed her hands couple of times and had alcohol sprayed on mines before I can feel her up. Could be a vestige of COVID precautions but not sure.

    Mia gives a legit massage. Can be a bit on the painful side so let her know when to tone it down. I wanted to approached it fairly standard, light brushes here and there, slowly expressing how good I felt and then escalating the touches. But to my surprise, she took off the cloth on top of me right from the start and began to work. Apparently, she thought I had seen her already. I had a mask on when I entered and she didn't see my face clearly. Anyways, she was slightly fazed but just continued on at my behest. After a thorough body massage, she spread my legs and traced her fingers along junior and "Thing! Thong! I was thrown off a bit at first but raised my ass and she began a slow and long tease. At first, she denied she did any extras. But after some charm and cajoling, her black t-shirt and colored leggings soon disappeared. She had on a set of black partially see through lingerie on. Those too eventually were taken off. CBJ was decent and only had a chance to do a couple positions in CFS before a jackhammer HE finish. There is one thing to point out though, almost every time the door chime rang, we had to stop for her to check / greet if another customer came in. It didn't look like there was anyone manning the front and it got irritating pretty fast. In closing, see Mia for cute looks, great combination of massage, sensuality, and extras.

    $45 (up $5) to the house for an hour and $200 for CBJ and CFS.
    Glad you had a good time BC. Yes admittedly there are cheaper dates out there, and Mia's pretty much upper limit for me when it comes to CBJ and CFS, but she's got great Attitude, the Service is high up there for CBJ CFS, and she's got an amazing touch that the tease is romance in itself. The first time I saw her, she almost finished the game just teasing me when I was face down.

  7. #31394
    Quote Originally Posted by Caribe  [View Original Post]
    As far as I'm concerned, Coco is the worst at this place. There's not much to choose from anymore but I was there several weeks ago. Was a new one named Lin. She's actually not new at all. She had worked there before and she's back trying to start up again. She is younger than either Coco or Lucy. She's kind of thick. I'm not sure what services she will offer an unknown monger but I mentioned I saw her before and she was quite open. She is younger and her face is about average. Give her a try.
    Coco! Just when I thought you guys couldn't set the bar any lower.

  8. #31393
    Quote Originally Posted by Dragoasn72  [View Original Post]
    I had an itch to scratch and went to F&C for a back scratcher. Lucy not available so went with Coco. Mistake.

    She starts with massage hard rub to back and neck which is good. Motuons for more and settle on $. She pulls up shirt and handle the little one foe a few minutes. Mask on the whole time so little one won't be getting a kiss. She uses hand for only about a minute and motions to switch places. She lies down and basically says to get to it. She is breathing like Darth Vader and I am not into it at all. I don't finish and only want to get out of there so I let her do HJ for a bit and motion I am done. Settle up and leave.

    Will not repeat with Coco. I didn't even mention the smell which was not overpowering but still there.
    As far as I'm concerned, Coco is the worst at this place. There's not much to choose from anymore but I was there several weeks ago. Was a new one named Lin. She's actually not new at all. She had worked there before and she's back trying to start up again. She is younger than either Coco or Lucy. She's kind of thick. I'm not sure what services she will offer an unknown monger but I mentioned I saw her before and she was quite open. She is younger and her face is about average. Give her a try.

  9. #31392

    Mia

    First, I'd like to thank BenderOver and others for providing information about Mia and L&L. Also, I want to put it out there based on the messages I've received that these AMP girls are incredibly YMMV. My experience can be wildly different than what you may experience. It's imperative to leverage charm, humor, or any other qualities you may have to keep the girl engaged and interested to increase the likelihood of extras being offered. Again, they are very YMMV and repeats seems to help a lot with it but it seems I've been lucky and fortunate enough to be fast tracked for some extras.

    On to Mia, she's fairly cute to me, has a charming smile, with a small button nose. Other than her eyes, she had light makeup on. Mia has one of those faces that the more you look at, the more you like IMO. Decent English. 5'7", I would put her in her early to mid 30's, nice looking man made D's with larger than average nipples, ass was a bit flat, and shaven pussy. She's fair skinned. No tattoos that I could find. She's fairly tall for an Asian lady (Chinese in this case) with lanky arms. Mid-section has a bit of a tummy but otherwise she has a slender physique. She does have what appears to be a prominent reddish vertical stretch mark about 3 inches in length near her navel. Lastly, hygiene seems really important to her. Washed her hands couple of times and had alcohol sprayed on mines before I can feel her up. Could be a vestige of COVID precautions but not sure.

    Mia gives a legit massage. Can be a bit on the painful side so let her know when to tone it down. I wanted to approached it fairly standard, light brushes here and there, slowly expressing how good I felt and then escalating the touches. But to my surprise, she took off the cloth on top of me right from the start and began to work. Apparently, she thought I had seen her already. I had a mask on when I entered and she didn't see my face clearly. Anyways, she was slightly fazed but just continued on at my behest. After a thorough body massage, she spread my legs and traced her fingers along junior and "Thing! Thong! I was thrown off a bit at first but raised my ass and she began a slow and long tease. At first, she denied she did any extras. But after some charm and cajoling, her black t-shirt and colored leggings soon disappeared. She had on a set of black partially see through lingerie on. Those too eventually were taken off. CBJ was decent and only had a chance to do a couple positions in CFS before a jackhammer HE finish. There is one thing to point out though, almost every time the door chime rang, we had to stop for her to check / greet if another customer came in. It didn't look like there was anyone manning the front and it got irritating pretty fast. In closing, see Mia for cute looks, great combination of massage, sensuality, and extras.

    $45 (up $5) to the house for an hour and $200 for CBJ and CFS.

  10. #31391

    F&C isn't what it used to be.

    F&C is going downhill. Like you said, everyone is rushing over there and the grannies are raising their prices. Even Lucy is asking for $ or more per visit.

    It's sad.

    Quote Originally Posted by Caribe  [View Original Post]
    I learned that with F&C back in the day when it was just unknown Foot Reflexology. Away from the beaten path of Bolsa and its crossstreets. Then the word got out and mongers were rushing toward it like sperm rushing to fertilize and egg. It was SRO in the lobby! Now, it's just a shell of its former gold rush days and the providers are demanding 120 instead of gratefully accepting 40.

  11. #31390

    To each their own

    I think the vast majority of us here, both active posters and lurkers, come to this board in search of intel: who to see, who to avoid, contact info, etiquette, other people's feedback, and so on. Everyone will have their own perspective and opinions on whether to share ATFs or gems they have found. But personally, I am more than willing to share who I like and if they're yet unknown, monopolize them for a time for selfish reasons.

    However, there are a couple caveats for this. First, I mainly come from sex work platforms which provide varying degrees of effective screening and deterrents: kgirls, P411, HX, PD, etc. Second, while I do have favorites, I also get bored somewhat quickly so lose the initial urge keep them to myself.

    AMP girls along with street walkers are an entirely different beast. They are pretty much accessible to anyone and screening amounts to a quick assessment and judgement of how the person looks, body language, figuring out their intention, and more within the first few minutes of meeting or can drag out a lot longer. And depending on the situation can be tense and cautious.

    Therefore, I approach AMP girls a bit differently. For one, if I like them, I'll ask for their number or how to contact them. So, if they go off radar for whatever reason, I'll have a reliable method to reach them unless they go full dark. Initially, I was quite surprise at how willing almost all girls were, sometimes offering their numbers before I even asked. You won't have the same percent success with kgirls and independents. But after thinking about it, it makes sense that they want to keep and maintain their good clientele, if they ever need to move around or bail a location.

    So what I do is to ask the girls how her encounters with new clients have been like and what she does to avoid being in a bad situation. To me, the broad accessibility of these girls meeting with bad apples is an eventuality, the same as any other sex worker but with a higher hit rate. If she seems competent and capable, I'll ask if she wants more business. The crux of it is to determine if they want to see more clients coming in, if she can handle herself, and that she's cognizant of the fact that some new clients will be assholes. In conclusion, it really boils down to whether the subset of mongers who browse these types of platforms have more or less assholes than the general population of mongers who don't browse such platforms. I would like to think that those looking for intel and guidance are more cordial than those who don't.

  12. #31389

    Limited to sharing

    Quote Originally Posted by SCJohn  [View Original Post]
    I fully understand all your positions. Here's the other side. This site and others are free advertising for the MT's W / O these posts, they may not be kept busy and decide that flipping burgers or working at a mortgage co. Is more profitable. I'm all for keeping my ATF's under the radar so I can see them when I want to. But I sure hope they're busy when I'm not there. I think it's useful to share info with those who also share info and if it needs to be done via DM then that's fine. But let's not be snippy about it.

    I'm sure they get scumballs all the time that don't shower and come in sweaty. I like AM appointments and if I'm showing up for an PM appt, I like to stop by places with showers to freshen up. That should be obvious to everyone.

    So make your post and mention that Seniors and those who share should just PM you for details. That way the lurkers don't benefit. We're all on the hunt for the young, cute girl. It's always funny to read someone with 2 posts coming on and asking for recommendations, or where F&C is! RTFF!

    Bottom line this site is for sharing info. I am willing to share info with those that post and ignore those that don't.
    Don't mind sharing or posting AMP experience. Only share the one and done experience. The AMP with crappy upsell rush and shorted on time types of experience. Finding that one gem with overall absolute best time you have are rare. Not sharing those for many reasons both MT & mongers side. I'm still in the hunt for a Korean CMT with HE.

  13. #31388
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1178

    Double edge sword

    Quote Originally Posted by NiceGuy99  [View Original Post]
    Agree 100%. Have had MT girls tell me essentially the same thing. They can get some real scumballs as clients through an Internet recommendation. They would rather curate their own customer list.
    I fully understand all your positions. Here's the other side. This site and others are free advertising for the MT's W / O these posts, they may not be kept busy and decide that flipping burgers or working at a mortgage co. Is more profitable. I'm all for keeping my ATF's under the radar so I can see them when I want to. But I sure hope they're busy when I'm not there. I think it's useful to share info with those who also share info and if it needs to be done via DM then that's fine. But let's not be snippy about it.

    I'm sure they get scumballs all the time that don't shower and come in sweaty. I like AM appointments and if I'm showing up for an PM appt, I like to stop by places with showers to freshen up. That should be obvious to everyone.

    So make your post and mention that Seniors and those who share should just PM you for details. That way the lurkers don't benefit. We're all on the hunt for the young, cute girl. It's always funny to read someone with 2 posts coming on and asking for recommendations, or where F&C is! RTFF!

    Bottom line this site is for sharing info. I am willing to share info with those that post and ignore those that don't.

  14. #31387

    Coco F&C

    I had an itch to scratch and went to F&C for a back scratcher. Lucy not available so went with Coco. Mistake.

    She starts with massage hard rub to back and neck which is good. Motuons for more and settle on $. She pulls up shirt and handle the little one foe a few minutes. Mask on the whole time so little one won't be getting a kiss. She uses hand for only about a minute and motions to switch places. She lies down and basically says to get to it. She is breathing like Darth Vader and I am not into it at all. I don't finish and only want to get out of there so I let her do HJ for a bit and motion I am done. Settle up and leave.

    Will not repeat with Coco. I didn't even mention the smell which was not overpowering but still there.

  15. #31386
    I am a troll, ignore me


    Posts: 239

    Internet Recomendations: 2-edged Sword

    Quote Originally Posted by HoDownMan2  [View Original Post]
    I get why KM wants to keep his place a secret. While this forum is a place to share information, I have personally seen girls that get overrun with business to the point that they leave all together. Case in point, there were several girls at Six * in Westminster that left because they became "too busy". Not only were they overrun, but they were also met with less than desirable individuals who stiffed them on their tips, severely under tipped them or treated them poorly (too rough etc). I can hear the criticism now, they are just ****** they should welcome the business and the money etc. But as some of you know, that is not always the case. Yes, they do it for the money but some want to still do this with dignity and respect and not just treated like a piece of meat. So I understand not sharing information at times when its one of your favorites. Not to mention, a lot of people who are desperate for the information are newbie's who don't want to put in the time and effort and expense on finding these gems.
    Agree 100%. Have had MT girls tell me essentially the same thing. They can get some real scumballs as clients through an Internet recommendation. They would rather curate their own customer list.

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