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  1. #32001
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaamper  [View Original Post]
    First, she didn't say anything to me about anonymity. Second, several of us have known who she was since the first day the pics went up. They are from a photo set she used back when she worked in Seattle. I just waited until after I actually saw her, so I could comment on her current look. Third, if she was trying to stay anonymous, it was a pretty anemic attempt. Fourth, with all the dishonest rebranding and profiteering, what the hell do we owe any of them anyway?
    I was merely stating that the cat was out of the bag sooner than I imagined. It was bound to happen either from her becoming popular again or from the prestige of her old name.

    But I do take issue with the last two points you raised concerning her desire for anonymity. If the topic of her wanting to maintain a low profile never came up or was not directly addressed when you saw her, then that's it. End of story and there's no need to expound further. Myself and others who did broach the topic was asked to keep it to ourselves.

    For those fortunate enough to be in the scene long enough to even recognize those pictures and knew who she was on the first day, kudos to you. Cause I didn't, the photos tickled some memories but I learned long ago to be skeptical here and elsewhere. Cases of girls reusing popular girls' photos and names in the past has taught me and many others here to keep a vigilant eye out. I wasn't completely sure until I saw her myself and she confirmed it to me.

    Regardless, no matter how piss poor her effort was wanting to keep a low profile, it doesn't make her request any less reasonable or difficult to comply with. You're right in that we don't owe kgirls anything nor do they owe us anything. It's a transaction completed when both parties have fulfilled their responsibilities. But here's the thing, outside of the transaction, the rebranding, the profiteering, I personally believe we still owe each other some human decency. Sounds hypocritical of me since I distill most, if not all, of the girls I review into pass or fail packs of meat and I'm aware of that. But when any girl makes a simple request that doesn't detrimentally affect myself, the monger community, or others and costs me nothing to comply with then I will most likely honor it. It's like what my old man used to say," Saying please and thank you should be a habit you should keep and maintain, it costs you nothing, and the world is better for it. ".

  2. #32000
    Quote Originally Posted by Veni1  [View Original Post]
    In my opinion you hit the nail on the head regarding service. My experience back then when she was Ava was the WORST Kgirl experience I have ever had, bar none. My session with her started out fine with friendly banter, the blue toast and shower, and then to the bedroom. She started a BBBJ with me lying on my back on the bed. Unfortunately it was one of those times when I wasn't getting a real stiff erection, so I asked her to use a finger and probe my backside. She did so but after about 5 minutes she just stopped and asked me if I wanted to do anything else. I suggested that we just continue with this for a bit more. At that point, she got up off the bed and told me she didn't want to continue our appointment any longer and that she would give me back one half of the fee. I sat there stunned and then asked her what was wrong. She didn't reply.

    I left and texted M the booker as to what had occurred. Within minutes, M called me and was totally apologetic. She asked if I wanted to see anyone else, but I declined. The next day Ava was not included with M's ad. I didn't write a negative review on the other site since I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt and since her ad was now down it would have been a waste of effort. I do know that no other provider has ever done this to me and I have been in this hobby since 2001.

    So, as far as service being YMMV, I just believe she's got an extreme case of GPS. For those of you who want to try her I suggest that you don't go into the session with the attitude of "Nothing like that could ever happen to me!" I have always been a respectful client with the gals and have been complimented as such. All I can add is that you win some and you lose some. Oh, and thanks for identifying her. I was thinking of trying to set up an appointment. Wouldn't that have been interesting?
    That just sucks. I don't think I've ever had a girl flat out stop the session. I agree that Ava / Eva has a case of GPS. Many girls with her caliber of looks tend to have poor or mediocre service, relying on their looks for business. Avani with J back in the day was similar. It's rare to see the holy grail of pretty girl and great service.

  3. #31999
    Quote Originally Posted by NintyNine  [View Original Post]
    I remember ava's old ad several years ago.

    She has dimples and a phat ass?

    I remember her tan look in the photos.

    I never partook. I thought she looked a bit too plastic.

    Is this what she really looks like-.
    It's pretty clear she's hand work done on her face and breasts. Everyone's tolerance of how plastic a girls can be is going to be different so it's on you to decide to pull the trigger or not. She advertised during the CV days where most photos were really them but had faces blurred. Other than a new shorter hairstyle and using less colorful and muted makeup, the photos still give a pretty good representation of how she looks currently IMO. Just keep in mind she's not really service oriented as I stated in my review.

  4. #31998
    Quote Originally Posted by WhyOhWhy  [View Original Post]
    It won't work in LA. Do you know why? Because us sex addicts won't be able to keep our cock in our pants for more than couple days believe me!! Just like crack addicts. If the price goes up we will always find away to get the funds to satisfy our cravings and addiction. Do you know how many times I tried to stay away from pussy?? I even converted into catholic and went to church thinking I will be changed. That lasted 2 weeks and I went straight back to fucking these demons. I honestly believe I will never ever be able to stop. That is why my only goal is too make a lot of money so I can continue feeding my addiction. Its sad but this is my reality. And honestly I don't mind it. Only thing I need to work on is managing my funds better. If I tell myself "okay, this month ill only fuck 5 girls" but I don't have any discipline so I end up fucking 7 Kgirls and fucking couple non Kgirls in between that's hell of a lot of money!! I even tell myself "don't fuck any girls for couple months and save your money go to Thailand and have a 1 month of fuckfest" but I can't even do that because I'm too horny to save up. Hopefully my side business will pick up some day so I can purely use that money for pussy. I would hope boycotting will work but I really doubt it. Lets keep our fingers crossed.
    Do you fuck the in between non k-girls BB as well? I stopped seeing non k girls because how can you go from BB CIP MSOG to a BBBJ and CFS. I'm talking about HYA girls.

    Anyone with advice on how to cure this addiction? I'm so into deep in this addiction that I stopped caring if KGIRL HYA or not, I just want only the BBFS providers and told booker to keep track of the girls I've seen because I don't want to repeat and I want a new girl each time to creampie. Sex addiction is real.

  5. #31997
    Quote Originally Posted by GG1234  [View Original Post]
    If you want BBFS at Yoshiwara, the guy that Majieroero linked to did 90% of the homework for you already. According to him, there are 65 stores that offer BBFS to some degree in Yoshiwara. It's not every girl, but the ones who offer it will often be marked with a next to their name. He even made a Google Maps Overlay for this. It's up to you to cross reference his list with the list of foreigner-friendly soaplands in Tokyo of which there are currently 19. I recommend installing the Google Translate browser extension if you haven't already to help you out during your research. It'll let you highlight text with your mouse and get a translation inline.
    Cool, I'll take a look and go from there. If I need any help. I'll just search the Tokyo thread at ISG. Maybe I'll get to experience BBFS this time around.

  6. #31996

    Eva cip

    Quote Originally Posted by ZebraZebra  [View Original Post]
    So I tried SFK Eva. Texted booker at 4 am on a whim, and got verified by 8 am this morning and booked Eva early. She popped my BBFS cherry as I usually do GFE. Very long and soft BBBJ which I like. No CIP but YMMV. Popped way too soon but couldn't finish round 2. Pics inaccurate but she looks a lot like SNSD Tiffany. No extra upcharge but I did leave a small tip.

    Will definitely repeat.
    Ava M allowed cip sometimes. She just hates cleaning up for next person.

  7. #31995

    Off topic

    Quote Originally Posted by GG1234  [View Original Post]
    If you want BBFS at Yoshiwara, the guy that Majieroero linked to did 90% of the homework for you already. According to him, there are 65 stores that offer BBFS to some degree in Yoshiwara. It's not every girl, but the ones who offer it will often be marked with a next to their name. He even made a Google Maps Overlay for this. It's up to you to cross reference his list with the list of foreigner-friendly soaplands in Tokyo of which there are currently 19. I recommend installing the Google Translate browser extension if you haven't already to help you out during your research. It'll let you highlight text with your mouse and get a translation inline.
    Kind of off topic but there was an actual japanese agency that was in oc before but only lasted a few months. Wish they come back. They were advertised cfs but had bb with one of them.

  8. #31994

    Yoshiwara

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAbc  [View Original Post]
    Soaplands I hear is the thing to go to if you want service. From what I have been reading, most will be off limits to foreigners and / or if you don't speak Japanese. You might get lucky when they have a slow day but they might possibly dump you with the lesser girls if you do get in. Do you suggest I just walk along the Yoshiwara street one morning and see if someone takes me in?
    If you want BBFS at Yoshiwara, the guy that Majieroero linked to did 90% of the homework for you already. According to him, there are 65 stores that offer BBFS to some degree in Yoshiwara. It's not every girl, but the ones who offer it will often be marked with a next to their name. He even made a Google Maps Overlay for this. It's up to you to cross reference his list with the list of foreigner-friendly soaplands in Tokyo of which there are currently 19. I recommend installing the Google Translate browser extension if you haven't already to help you out during your research. It'll let you highlight text with your mouse and get a translation inline.

  9. #31993

    CityHeaven Did Something Nice

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAbc  [View Original Post]
    Do you have any thoughts about https://hentaitokyo.com/? Alot of good things are mentioned about them, but of course no one mentions BB with their girls. They seem to have alot of other extra services yet it isn't the one I want.
    I don't know anything about hentaitokyo.com, but I'm going to pass along this site that was setup by CityHeaven to help foreigners find shops that are foreigner-friendly. JAPAN NIGHT LEISURE: Many Foreigner Welcome Businesses Listed. It looks like they took down their IP block on non-Japanese IP addresses, so no more VPN needed to browse around either.

  10. #31992

    Eva / Ava

    Quote Originally Posted by Veni1  [View Original Post]
    In my opinion you hit the nail on the head regarding service. My experience back then when she was Ava was the WORST Kgirl experience I have ever had, bar none. My session with her started out fine with friendly banter, the blue toast and shower, and then to the bedroom. She started a BBBJ with me lying on my back on the bed. Unfortunately it was one of those times when I wasn't getting a real stiff erection, so I asked her to use a finger and probe my backside. She did so but after about 5 minutes she just stopped and asked me if I wanted to do anything else. I suggested that we just continue with this for a bit more. At that point, she got up off the bed and told me she didn't want to continue our appointment any longer and that she would give me back one half of the fee. I sat there stunned and then asked her what was wrong. She didn't reply.

    I left and texted M the booker as to what had occurred. Within minutes, M called me and was totally apologetic. She asked if I wanted to see anyone else, but I declined. The next day Ava was not included with M's ad. I didn't write a negative review on the other site since I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt and since her ad was now down it would have been a waste of effort. I do know that no other provider has ever done this to me and I have been in this hobby since 2001.

    So, as far as service being YMMV, I just believe she's got an extreme case of GPS. For those of you who want to try her I suggest that you don't go into the session with the attitude of "Nothing like that could ever happen to me!" I have always been a respectful client with the gals and have been complimented as such. All I can add is that you win some and you lose some. Oh, and thanks for identifying her. I was thinking of trying to set up an appointment. Wouldn't that have been interesting?
    I concur. She was pretty but her service was very underwhelming. Never went back and will not now either. Can somebody ask her to convince Rain to make a comeback. That would be a reason for me to drive to WLA every day.

  11. #31991
    I remember ava's old ad several years ago.

    She has dimples and a phat ass?

    I remember her tan look in the photos.

    I never partook. I thought she looked a bit too plastic.

    Is this what she really looks like-.
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  12. #31990
    Quote Originally Posted by GG1234  [View Original Post]
    You're not going to find the best girls by going to sites that cater to non-Japanese people. The premier site for pay-for-play advertisement in Japan is CityHeaven, and you'll need to view it with a Japanese IP address. If you're outside of Japan, you'll probably need a VPN.

    For discussions, you'll find them at 5ch's adult boards. A Japanese IP address is required here too.

    The best Western resource I've found for learning how the industry works in Japan is the Tokyo Night Style Wiki.

    If this is a frustrating amount of text, and you just want some eye candy, I like Proportion. They're a high-end soapland in Yokohama that specializes in big tits.

    Finally, if you're looking for BBFS, their slang for it is Natural Service or NS.

    Koreans doing Delivery Health (outcall) in Japan can be found via kan-deli.net.

    There are a few sites that track JAV actresses who also escort. Check out AV Fuuzoku or search for AV 風俗.
    I appreciate the info. Those two I mentioned were easy in the sense of booking, but the quality of the girls were severely lacking. I asked once with Asianmystique about BBFS and I was shut down with a hard no. Ever since that first time hiring a girl from them, I've never used them again. I've used Nastydolls twice, one I don't even remember the experience and the second one had an older MILF who had a fish market between her legs. She had no business charging her rate and even had the gull to decline BBFS. From these two times told me enough to know that their service though convenient, you overpay for mediocre experiences.

    Do you have any thoughts about https://hentaitokyo.com/? Alot of good things are mentioned about them, but of course no one mentions BB with their girls. They seem to have alot of other extra services yet it isn't the one I want.

  13. #31989
    Quote Originally Posted by BonerAppetitty  [View Original Post]
    Who will answer the call of booty? I think LA Ruby is back in OC with upcharge for BB.
    I will answer the call. If you check my earlier posts, I missed Ruby 2 years ago in OC. I am the tanned and curvy slayer.

  14. #31988
    Quote Originally Posted by Majieroero  [View Original Post]
    BBFS offered in Japan as well. It's hush hush for delivery / fashion health because they technically don't even allow penetration, but many girls do it for extra cash. You'd have to negotiate on the spot and be pretty discreet about it. Girls can BL you if you force the issue upon them. Soaplands are a different story. Although technically all soaplands are supposed to be CFS, some girls and entire stores will offer BBFS if you go to the right place and pay the right price. Generally speaking, BBFS is almost expected for the higher tiered soaplands that range above 40,000 yen for 2 hours. For example, most girls in Lavieen Rose at Yoshiwara offers guaranteed BBFS CIP for about 65,000 yen. Of course it's not advertised that way, but that's commonly known amongst Japanese mongers. It's not cheap, but you get 2 hours with MSOG, nuru, mat play, and a whole slew of bath service included. You can test your luck with cheaper places, but those are more of a hit or miss. The Japanese lingo is NN (Nama Nakadashi = Raw CIP) or NS (Nama Sotodashi = Raw No-CIP). You can get more definitive info here if you read / speak Japanese:

    Https: 3 nenbkumi-chinpachisensei.net/ category / soapland-nn-ns /.
    I hired a girl once via health delivery. I do remember the service being decent but ended up disappointing due CFS. I was offered P2 P which was suppose to "simulate" BBFS or some nonsense like that. Is it a gamble that you'd negotiate with the girl when she's in your room about doing FS BBFS? I don't remember the website I used, it could of been OL Style or one of their sister websites.

    Soaplands I hear is the thing to go to if you want service. From what I have been reading, most will be off limits to foreigners and / or if you don't speak Japanese. You might get lucky when they have a slow day but they might possibly dump you with the lesser girls if you do get in. Do you suggest I just walk along the Yoshiwara street one morning and see if someone takes me in?

  15. #31987
    Quote Originally Posted by BonerAppetitty  [View Original Post]
    I think you got the rate wrong. She offers BB special of 300 + 60 bbmsog. I think 360 will be the standard all inclusive rate if MADD fails with No Pussy November.
    Good to know MKC isn't +100 bb across the board.

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