General Reports

[TailGunner1]

These girls are not very bright in the traditional sense but they are sure as hell more street smart than you or me. The key is not to give them opportunities to rob you. Every long time active monger has been robbed whether they admit it or not. It's nothing to be ashamed of. Sometimes there is little to nothing you can do about it unless you want to take the risk of an incident and / or LE involvement. The key is not to make stupid mistakes that make it easy for them. I am not including bad service or not delivering services as promised because that is more of a shitty call even though you feel like you were robbed. I am talking about taking your money with no services delivered or somehow stealing extra money off you during a call. These are ones I have seen other mongers post about, have happened to me or providers have actually told me they got guys on this.

1) Deposits. This one I have ZERO sympathy for. If you got nicked on a deposit it is because you are a moron. NEVER pre pay these girls. Even an otherwise great provider might nick you on a deposit if you are dumb enough to fall for it. There is no excuse when you get ghosted after sending a deposit. That is all on you and your own stupidity.

2) Content. This is another one I have no sympathy for and actually laugh when a monger posts that he sent money and never received the content. This is the same as sending deposits. Why take a chance when there is more free porn online than you will ever be able to see in your lifetime.

3) Leaving the motel room to get a soda. I fell for this one with a provider I had seen many times before with no issue. She came to my room and said she wanted to go to the soda machine and asked if I wanted one. I even joked saying you aren't going to run out on me. Well she did. That was due to my own stupidity and why I have said in many posts never to trust these girls even if you have seen them many times. This one ended up being a positive. A year later I reached out to her. No of course I didn't expect to get my money back or get a freebie. These girls don't play like that. But they always like money, especially if they need their fix. So I told her look I was a good regular til you robbed me. She apologized and said it was the drugs. Of course it was. So I said well I can't see you unless we make this right. I will pay you our standard rate but you have to bring another girl and you don't get the money til after the call. She agreed and brought a non working girl and I had a great time. Did it again when she brought a different girl. She vanished after that but I think I came out ahead with two 2 for the price of 1. But still, my error for trusting her.

4) I have to pay my driver now. I never fell for this but a few have tried. They arrive to your room and take the money and say they need to pay their driver 20 or something. I say no, you don't leave the room until after the call. The calls then went fine. But see how they were looking for a chance to steal. Nowadays I specifically say before they come over that there will be no paying drivers or whatever. Square that away before you get here.

5) Robbing you after a call. I got nailed on this one. This was a provider I has seen a few times before with no issue. I was in a suite in AC and when we were done I left the bedroom for 20 seconds to get a bottle of water. In that time she went in my draw, in my pants and got several hundred out of my wallet. I didn't notice til the following morning when I saw it was gone. That money was going to be used to see another girl on my ride home. I got my revenge by sending her on many bogus outcalls over the next few years until she vanished. Probably in jail or OD'd. The point is they move like hawks so never let them out of your site and if possible put your money in the hotel room safe. Again, my own stupidity.

6) The jittery girl. You arrive at her room and she just seems off. She is very nervous and keeps checking her phone. She makes no attempt to get undressed or anything. You can tell she needs her fix real soon. Turn around and leave because she intends to rob you. I never got nailed on this. I knew to just leave with my money. But I have seen other guys here say she ran with the money or her pimp burst in. When something doesn't feel right just leave.

7) I need money for the room. Several guys have posted that they got nailed on this one. You arrive at the motel and the girl asks you for money so she can get the room and do the call. Never fall for this one. I almost would say this is as dumb as sending deposits. Never part with your money until you are in the room and everything seems normal. Any red flags just leave.

8_ Send me money I need it bad and will give you a free call or two next time. Come on. Are you really that stupid?

[LolBoat]

I agree with you, but at some point the cam market would get saturated. Maybe things will come back around.

If you're not single the equation becomes much harder and you're back to trying to get some MILF in the supermarket.

In 2-3 years alot of these girls will be in their mid 20's and they will be forced out of the cam market so I do think in the future they will be on the streets, however. That depends on how good / bad the economy is.

[Klance]

I've been saying this for the past year. I abandoned all those traditional sites years ago and mostly used seeking.

Here is my take on seeking, post pandemic.

You arent going to be on for one month and get a bunch of numbers and just work through them for a few months until they fizzle out (my old strategy).

You will have to sign up for 2-3 months and be willing to travel 100+ miles from where you live and you must be okay with seeing women in their late 20's to early 40's, the days of young college co-eds being on there are over as they are seem to be on cam sites or leveraging other methods of getting $$. The handful of younger ones on there are single moms or girls really down on there luck. The longer you are on there and the more willing you are to travel (as in even going across country) the better results you will have. If you're a single guy like me and have a good paying job and or a business, the economics of doing this are still somewhat favorable but its getting more expensive and the quality of product has gone down alot. The 2010's are over with and we are in a global depression.

Back in 2015 or so, you could find decent middle class white chicks looking to score some extra cash at reasonable prices, those same girls will be commanding $600+ these days.

I agree with you, but at some point the cam market would get saturated. Maybe things will come back around.

If you're not single the equation becomes much harder and you're back to trying to get some MILF in the supermarket.

[LolBoat]

Even if the income is cut by 50&, why would you not only cam? Not meeting creepy fat old dudes (me) no disease, no po lice, not dangerous. It does suck, but does it surprise anyone (.

Exactly. The thing is, any decent girl can scale her cam business easily. Just find 500 simps to pay $9. 00 a month or whatever, that's enough to cover her bills. Most don't get that many but you get my point.

[TailGunner1]

OMG, I remember this girl, her working name was Lovely Lola. She was a nut but a fun girl, I had a threesome with her and a friend at no cost (friend). She was totally uninhibited and the word 'NO" was not part of her repertoire. Lola could take an ass pounding and love to be slapped, it turns her on.

I used to see her back at her place, she was not a clock watcher. Last time I saw her back was early 2020 then lost track of her.

She reached out to me about 2 years ago. I no longer live in the area so I wasn't able to see her. I haven't seen or heard anything about her since. Maybe she is in jail or OD'd and died. Funny thing is she wasn't really even my type but all the calls were excellent. One of only a handful of providers who actually enjoyed that much sex. She would be like I just learned a new position let's try it and see if you like it. There was no clock with her. She didn't ask for crazy donations. She could have at least with the service you and I got. Very crazy but never towards me and was a great one to have in the rotation. Yes she could take a pounding and actually wanted the pounding. A rare breed.

[SimpSince1991]

Even if the income is cut by 50&, why would you not only cam? Not meeting creepy fat old dudes (me) no disease, no po lice, not dangerous. It does suck, but does it surprise anyone (.

[LolBoat]

A bit of a rant

Many of you are aware of this already, but it appears, based upon my recent experiences and online reviews, almost all the major hook-up / sugar baby sites e. G. Secret Benefits, What's Your Price, Adult Friend Finder and even Plenty of Fish totally suck in 2022. The combination of bots and few real women means you're pretty much throwing your money away. I'd love to be proved wrong. The only site that may work is Seeking, but I refuse to pay their prices and honestly I don't have the time or energy to weed through all the 20 somethings with GPS.

There was a period around 2009 till maybe 2016 that those sites worked, but given the horrible pickings on Skip and the sites I mentioned I'm honestly not sure what direction to go in. So I guess my question is where can you look now? Are cyber hookups dead? It would appear mongers are back to looking in real life for UTRs, FWBs, fuck buddies, etc. If you were never strong in picking up women in real life the good times and easy pickings are over.

I've been saying this for the past year. I abandoned all those traditional sites years ago and mostly used seeking.

Here is my take on seeking, post pandemic.

You arent going to be on for one month and get a bunch of numbers and just work through them for a few months until they fizzle out (my old strategy).

You will have to sign up for 2-3 months and be willing to travel 100+ miles from where you live and you must be okay with seeing women in their late 20's to early 40's, the days of young college co-eds being on there are over as they are seem to be on cam sites or leveraging other methods of getting $$. The handful of younger ones on there are single moms or girls really down on there luck. The longer you are on there and the more willing you are to travel (as in even going across country) the better results you will have. If you're a single guy like me and have a good paying job and or a business, the economics of doing this are still somewhat favorable but its getting more expensive and the quality of product has gone down alot. The 2010's are over with and we are in a global depression.

Back in 2015 or so, you could find decent middle class white chicks looking to score some extra cash at reasonable prices, those same girls will be commanding $600+ these days.

[MadDmacx]

These girls are habitual liars. They lie about almost anything. Some of their lies are about getting more money off of you. It's why I always say do not care about these girls. Do not feel sorry for them or fail for their bs. They are doing just fine and are exactly where they want to be. They make more money than you do. How and why they are perpetually broke is none of your concern. Your only goal should be getting the best service at the lowest price. When you understand that you will get better calls at a lower price. Do not "care" about these girls. Smart mongers don't and I assure you we get much better mileage and prices than the white knights who care about these girls. They are wasting their time and money for nothing.

Here are some of the lies I have been told. If you guys have others please share.

1. "You are the first guy I have had sex with all week or in months".

No, I doubt I am the even the first guy you had sex with that day. Her ad has been up all week, month or year. Trust me, you or I are not the first person she has had sex with in a while. I think they say this for several reasons. First they know any guy will feel better not knowing she has had half a dozen dicks in her that day. Secondly, it is a play to get you to give her more money since this poor well known girl who posts daily wants you to think she is hurting. White Knights will usually throw her more money. A smart monger just shrugs. I have gotten this line several times from regulars who vanished for a while and then came back. Problem is their ad has been up for week (s) since they returned. Does even the dumbest monger really think nobody else has seen her in a week when guys jump on any girl who posts that appears legit?

100% accurate!

[Klance]

A bit of a rant

Many of you are aware of this already, but it appears, based upon my recent experiences and online reviews, almost all the major hook-up / sugar baby sites e. G. Secret Benefits, What's Your Price, Adult Friend Finder and even Plenty of Fish totally suck in 2022. The combination of bots and few real women means you're pretty much throwing your money away. I'd love to be proved wrong. The only site that may work is Seeking, but I refuse to pay their prices and honestly I don't have the time or energy to weed through all the 20 somethings with GPS.

There was a period around 2009 till maybe 2016 that those sites worked, but given the horrible pickings on Skip and the sites I mentioned I'm honestly not sure what direction to go in. So I guess my question is where can you look now? Are cyber hookups dead? It would appear mongers are back to looking in real life for UTRs, FWBs, fuck buddies, etc. If you were never strong in picking up women in real life the good times and easy pickings are over.

[Reynishi]

Do this long enough and plenty of funny shit happens. I am sure you all have some funny stories. Let's hear them. I have a few but want to share this one that I still laugh about when I think about it.

A little background. I forget the girls working name but she used to use several and I won't share her real name. Anyway, she used to work out of the Tom's River area but then ended up in South Amboy and then settled in the Edison area. The guys on the sites used to post about her ads because she seemed like a train wreck and we all had a laugh. I don't remember anybody actually saying they saw her. But if you were around years ago you may have. I have attached a few pics. So one day I decide to actually see her. She wasn't my type as I usually prefer them thicker but I had a feeling it would be a good time and much to laugh about. It was. So I see her and she was a train wreck and the first thing she said is I am kind of a scatter brain don't mind me. She was hitting a crack pipe and that usually makes me walk but I just went with it. Got a great call and she even said if her friend gets back in time I can see her too at no extra charge. The friend never showed but I did see her like a week later and it was fun. Younger girl BBBJ BBFS. She didn't post for long and is lost to history. So back to this girl. The call ends and it was basically full GFE all bare against my better judgement but everything was fine. She said to see her again. I said I would rather not because of the using. She said well I do get clean from time to time and will call you then. I reached out to her a few months later and she said I would love to see you but I am not clean now. I said well can you not hit the pipe long enough for a nice unrushed BBBJ. She said yes and it was a good call..

OMG, I remember this girl, her working name was Lovely Lola. She was a nut but a fun girl, I had a threesome with her and a friend at no cost (friend). She was totally uninhibited and the word 'NO" was not part of her repertoire. Lola could take an ass pounding and love to be slapped, it turns her on.

I used to see her back at her place, she was not a clock watcher. Last time I saw her back was early 2020 then lost track of her.

[Klance]

So Plenty of Fish now charges to send messages beyond your one free message a day. Also a woman who I messaged ended up being a bot or at least wanted me to join a website. Very disappointing. There's really no easy venues anymore.

[Farouk]

Does anyone know if there is a website or some platform where working girls can contact each other about bad experiences, etc. I've contacted 3 or 4 women recently, and after a few texts they stop replying. I certainly haven't done anything wrong or anything to hurt anyone, but I have a feeling that a woman I met recently took a dislike to me for some reason. Now it seems like I can't get a date. Very frustrating.

There is such a board, a woman I enjoyed for many years showed me at one time, but I was so pussy drunk I cannot remember what the name was. Michelle / Mimi in Philly got deep into the dom and fetish work before she disappeared completely. She was showing me her ads and photos she had up, and in a sub forum there was a whole section with city sub sections with reviews for bad dates. Mind you, in the dom-sub sessions, often the girls are bound or compromised, so she tried hard to weed out the bad guys. I've tried for countless hours to find that board again with no luck. And I can't ask Michelle, as she vanished when her taste for dope got too strong. I fear she got scooped up by some dirtbag pimp and is being trafficked in another city somewhere.

[Klance]

Does anyone know if there is a website or some platform where working girls can contact each other about bad experiences, etc. I've contacted 3 or 4 women recently, and after a few texts they stop replying. I certainly haven't done anything wrong or anything to hurt anyone, but I have a feeling that a woman I met recently took a dislike to me for some reason. Now it seems like I can't get a date. Very frustrating.

Are we talking Skip girls? Most of the mid-level local gals aka "Twitter Girls" aka "Board Girls" know of each other and share references. I've seen certain ones promote out of state girls too. I don't think there is a list, but they definitely talk about guys and supposedly I heard references to a provider only board on Best GFE and other sites like that.

Even with all that girls are skittish and they are skittish about the same stuff. Maybe have a friend look over your texts and see if you said something wrong. Unless it's a coincidence something happened to spook them.

[TailGunner1]

Does anyone know if there is a website or some platform where working girls can contact each other about bad experiences, etc. I've contacted 3 or 4 women recently, and after a few texts they stop replying. I certainly haven't done anything wrong or anything to hurt anyone, but I have a feeling that a woman I met recently took a dislike to me for some reason. Now it seems like I can't get a date. Very frustrating.

You sure you aren't saying anything to creep them out during those initial texts?

I've had 1 or 2 girls say they were going to say I was a good call on some site. Whether one exists or not who knows. If it did I assume we would have found it by now. Plus if such a site existed you think most of these girls would even know about it or care?

I suppose there is a small chance that the girls who ignored you are in the same group of tight providers as the one you had an issue with and they happened to text your number to her asking about you. But that is very unlikely. I think it's more likely you texted something that creeped them out or they all found better calls or something.

[High Pockets]

Does anyone know if there is a website or some platform where working girls can contact each other about bad experiences, etc. I've contacted 3 or 4 women recently, and after a few texts they stop replying. I certainly haven't done anything wrong or anything to hurt anyone, but I have a feeling that a woman I met recently took a dislike to me for some reason. Now it seems like I can't get a date. Very frustrating.