Korean Agency BB

[TempletonRat]

I doubt you'll read it, maybe at most click on the link then leave the site. The choice is yours if you want to continue on with how you think. I'll be nice and throw you a bone. Maybe someone who lurks will benefit and see a different corner of the world much less known.

https://therationalmale.com/

This some Andrew Tate shit?

[Bastard Chorum]

Does anyone know if any girl or agency have cosplays, uniforms or similar?

Most have only a few sets of lingerie available. The rest seem to favor school uniforms. If you're into that, find a girl you like and see if she's open to that. Most are. Keep the ... umm... "accoutrements" in their original packaging or tags to show her it's brand new. I know a guy who takes measurements and brings what he likes for the girl to wear. Everyone's got their kinks and fetishes, might as well take advantage of it in the kgirl world.

[Bollocks37]

Always wanted to try k girl scene. Any thoughts for newbie to try out a booker? Or any other recommendations. Thanks.

[Bastard Chorum]

I'm literally only saying this because you guys constantly complain how today kgirl scene is lacking. I know most mongers won't even view sex workers as human beings. K-girls like Erica are here solely for money, not sex. At the same time, we all want more girls like Erica. Being at least understanding that these k-girls may not satisfy all your needs is better than being a total dick. At the end, idrc if you guys rip her in half. If you want someone like Erica to stay and you like ripping k-girls in half, then don't complain why k-girl scene is lacking in LA. There are plenty of money in other parts of US and even Canada.

It's important to isolate treating kgirls well and critiquing their service as two wholly separate things. One may have an affect on the other or vice versa but at the end of the day, they are two distinct aspects of mongering.

I very much doubt that the vast majority of mongers treat kgirls poorly or sees them only as sex dolls or less than human beings. If the bookers are doing their job correctly, these types of individuals are usually weeded out during vetting or BL shortly after a session or two with kgirls. Small infractions are rarely heard about and / or disseminated in the community. More often than not, only the extreme cases bubble up to the top and reach the forums (broken ribs, fake currency, theft, nonconsensual filming, etc.). While each incident is tragic, the small amount of similarly severe cases is often taken at face value and mischaracterized as rampant in the scene. Which it is not, this is just selection bias. Taking a step back, given the amount of agencies and kgirls across the LA / OC area and however many hundreds of sessions that occur everyday over however many years these incidents occur, the percentage of this happening to kgirls is miniscule. I'm not discounting how horrible it is, but we all need to take into consideration the likelihood also. For instance, in our lifetime we have close to a 1% chance of dying in a car crash but most of us still choose to commute and drive cars.

As for the later aspect, every monger possesses an idealized concept of what they perceive as good service. This becomes a grading rubric each kgirl will be tested against. How well they mesh and score will determine what kind of reviews will posted after the fact. Given the circumstance and dynamics involved, critiquing a kgirl's performance is integral, if not mandatory, to the whole process. You are paying for a service and not with chump change either. If, for example, I'm shelling out $300 at two restaurants: one has great ambiance, knowledgeable wait staff, and great food while another has wailing kids running amok, servers that clearly hate their job, and food not much better than the Sizzler's around the corner, I sure am going to be complaining to management and posting a review reflective of what I experience on Yelp, Google reviews, Tripadvisor, or similar platforms.

Ultimately, I don't think we mongers as a whole are treating kgirls unfairly. With how donations are pretty similar regardless of where you go (not including upcharges), kgirls demonstrating exceptional characteristics / service and those that fall short should equally be called out to benefit the community and give bookers notice on what we want and like. Moreover, upcharges were a consequence and byproduct of kgirls themselves and the bookers ran with it. The delineation between upcharge and not upcharge girls and all issues arising because of it is their damn own fault. In your words "Eric (and I would add all kgirls) are solely here for the money, not sex". I agree with that statement but I would also add that we mongers are here solely (most of us anyways) for the sex, not the inadequacies originating from said kgirl that affects it. We're all consenting adults here. The ability of certain kgirls to be able to cope with fucking strangers day in and day out, to have the mental fortitude to deliver consistent service to the majority of her clients, and to not drag drama into the session is the linchpin in separating the superstars and the duds. I don't think, even for a second, that evaluating a service I paid for dehumanizes the people involve. We all (should) know and be aware that it boils down to a transaction and a service, bought and paid for. I can be polite, cordial, and courteous while objectively evaluating how well you please me. I have faith that most of us here can too. And it should no way indicate that we are callous or otherwise for doing so. If this still sounds dehumanizing or offensive to you, then we just have to agree to disagree. I can't speak for others but, personally, I pursue the good fucks and don't treat the dud fucks any less than the good ones.

[TheAbc]

LOL ok. Think what you want. I'm just stating my peace of mind after years of seeing posts on how k-girl scene in LA is dying and how at least respecting human boundaries is somekind of white knighting.

I doubt you'll read it, maybe at most click on the link then leave the site. The choice is yours if you want to continue on with how you think. I'll be nice and throw you a bone. Maybe someone who lurks will benefit and see a different corner of the world much less known.

https://therationalmale.com/

[FuriousPork]

Does anyone know if any girl or agency have cosplays, uniforms or similar?

[Bastard Chorum]

I've been trying out different agencies and when they ask for references, I provide the ones I have used before. When I mentioned one of the agencies, they quickly texted me saying to not use them as a reference as I haven't visited them in a while. Anyone received this type of treatment before?

I haven't heard of getting that type of response from a booking you are using as a reference before. Usually, at least when I need to, I let the booker know ahead of time that I am using them as a reference. This establishes two things: 1) the other party is Ok with it (I move on to another if they aren't) and 2) quicker response between bookers as the aren't blind sighted by it. You can remedy your situation by seeing a girl from the booker and try again later. With how the current scene is flooded with a bunch of girls now, I can understand bookers not wanting clients to migrate to other agencies.

[SsStuntCock]

Like most things in life, it's not "either or," but rather "both. " That is, I see this hobby a transaction *and* one where two people have the potential to reduce each other to mere objects: Pussy and money. Right or wrong, that's just the way it is.

Considering the lack of parity between markets, I'd hate to see us compound a litany of reasons for kgirls to look elsewhere. So I don't hold it against anyone for erring on the side of caution in that regard.

"We lost another kgirl because we were too gentle," said no one ever.

[LilDuk]

You're not going to be able to will the Kgirl scene in LA into what you want it to be by projecting with comments all your frankly juvenile feelings about the girls and the guys that are their clients. I suggest you establish some non sex worker female relationships. It will do you good.

LOL ok. Think what you want. I'm just stating my peace of mind after years of seeing posts on how k-girl scene in LA is dying and how at least respecting human boundaries is somekind of white knighting.

[LC310]

You can call it white knighting. I call it at least giving some rights to sex workers. Most mongers view them as sex toys then complain afterwards. I've seen this before 2020 on this thread. There are many posts about good old days when that site was still up. A lot of services provided today weren't standard back in the days. Mongers really had to earn it by repeating visits. Pandemic did hit new k-girls coming into LA but the complaints about lack of quality was still there before it. You can search this forum and there were plenty of posts complaining upcharge for bb and lack of good quality k-girls.

Try treating sex workers like humans first then you can get everything you want. They will stop upcharging you or straight up refusing you. Mongers these days are refusing to work for free services because they would rather pay money. I wonder why k-girls are trying to extract money through upcharges. If k-girls are into you, they won't really ask you to pay money. A lot of k-girls I met tend to ask me out on dates and they pay for the entire date. The k-girl scene is somewhat alive but most mongers don't really want to put in time and money. They rather want hos on the side and hos do what all hos do. Ask for more money.

You're not going to be able to will the Kgirl scene in LA into what you want it to be by projecting with comments all your frankly juvenile feelings about the girls and the guys that are their clients.

I suggest you establish some non sex worker female relationships. It will do you good.

[LilDuk]

I'm going to try to add something but other posters have posted quite well on some things I wanted to say. You have some misguided notion that these girls are delicate flowers whom cannot defend nor think for themselves. What you are doing is the classic captain save-a-hoe. These girls all play an act and want to maximize how much they can extract from mongers. All these girls who work here make the conscious choice to be in this industry knowing full well of the potential problems and dangers. If mongers here are as dangerous and rough as you'd like to believe, the reputation would be well known and no girl would work in LA. FOSTA + Covid put a dent in quality girls being around in general. I don't remember the issue of "rough guys" being a problem pre 2018. Sure it happens, but it isn't some epidemic. The reason why we complain is because some of us have been doing this for awhile and noticed drastic decrease in quality of the girls that have popped up in recent years. It's a cocktail of crap from rebrands of less desirable providers, older women, price increases that does not lead to better service but just more money extracted from the monger. I'd post more but no one wants to read a novel on a hoe forum.

Here's the definition of a white knight. I've posted the link only once awhile ago when we had a spat with those idiots at TER.

"White knightism manifests itself in a variety of ways, but probably the most common manifestation is running to the "protection" or "defense"of usually a strangerjust because she's female, with little or no consideration other factors. Online, that often translates into attacking another guy when you think he's unfairly criticized or "bullied" a girl, or a certain group of women. The key part is that you're standing up for what's essentially a complete stranger because she's a woman and therefore, in your eyes, defenseless. Hence the name. You're the knight in shining armor coming to the rescue of a damsel in distress. ".

You can call it white knighting. I call it at least giving some rights to sex workers. Most mongers view them as sex toys then complain afterwards. I've seen this before 2020 on this thread. There are many posts about good old days when that site was still up. A lot of services provided today weren't standard back in the days. Mongers really had to earn it by repeating visits. Pandemic did hit new k-girls coming into LA but the complaints about lack of quality was still there before it. You can search this forum and there were plenty of posts complaining upcharge for bb and lack of good quality k-girls.

Try treating sex workers like humans first then you can get everything you want. They will stop upcharging you or straight up refusing you. Mongers these days are refusing to work for free services because they would rather pay money. I wonder why k-girls are trying to extract money through upcharges. If k-girls are into you, they won't really ask you to pay money. A lot of k-girls I met tend to ask me out on dates and they pay for the entire date. The k-girl scene is somewhat alive but most mongers don't really want to put in time and money. They rather want hos on the side and hos do what all hos do. Ask for more money.

[LC310]

Don't fall in love with the sex workers.

That is all.

[TheAbc]

I'm literally only saying this because you guys constantly complain how today kgirl scene is lacking. I know most mongers won't even view sex workers as human beings. K-girls like Erica are here solely for money, not sex. At the same time, we all want more girls like Erica. Being at least understanding that these k-girls may not satisfy all your needs is better than being a total dick. At the end, idrc if you guys rip her in half. If you want someone like Erica to stay and you like ripping k-girls in half, then don't complain why k-girl scene is lacking in LA. There are plenty of money in other parts of US and even Canada.

I'm going to try to add something but other posters have posted quite well on some things I wanted to say. You have some misguided notion that these girls are delicate flowers whom cannot defend nor think for themselves. What you are doing is the classic captain save-a-hoe™. These girls all play an act and want to maximize how much they can extract from mongers. All these girls who work here make the conscious choice to be in this industry knowing full well of the potential problems and dangers. If mongers here are as dangerous and rough as you'd like to believe, the reputation would be well known and no girl would work in LA. FOSTA + Covid put a dent in quality girls being around in general. I don't remember the issue of "rough guys" being a problem pre 2018. Sure it happens, but it isn't some epidemic. The reason why we complain is because some of us have been doing this for awhile and noticed drastic decrease in quality of the girls that have popped up in recent years. It's a cocktail of crap from rebrands of less desirable providers, older women, price increases that does not lead to better service but just more money extracted from the monger. I'd post more but no one wants to read a novel on a hoe forum.

Here's the definition of a white knight. I've posted the link only once awhile ago when we had a spat with those idiots at TER.

"White knightism manifests itself in a variety of ways, but probably the most common manifestation is running to the "protection" or "defense"—of usually a stranger—just because she's female, with little or no consideration other factors. Online, that often translates into attacking another guy when you think he's unfairly criticized or "bullied" a girl, or a certain group of women. The key part is that you're standing up for what's essentially a complete stranger because she's a woman and therefore, in your eyes, defenseless. Hence the name. You're the knight in shining armor coming to the rescue of a damsel in distress. ".

[LilDuk]

Garbage? Cool story, brah.

I have heard from two different K-girls that SoCal makes them nervous because of the size of the Korean population and the chance they may get found out.

Look at the population of Koreans in California by county and do a risk assessment on where you would want to work and not be found out, but there are also clients with money.

Guys are guys wherever they work from cuddle bunnies to bat swinging pornstar wannabes. They know the deal and they know that the way to the fattest bank account is being a good actress and making everyone feel they got what they came for and hopefully returns as it is the easiest way to reduce their work stress and know what they are going to earn. A girl with 100 once a month clients knows minimum earnings and what to prepare for with each session. That's a lot less stressful than each client being a mystery and potentially a one and done.

Bottom line is that they are independent contract-ish workers for an agency and they need to manage their risk (physical/mental/emotional/etc) while maximizing their earnings.

These k-girls barely care about korean population in LA. My friend owns the spa most of them frequents they openly talk about their work. If clients speak Korean, most of them like it because it means they can shorten the fucking and stretch the talking. Most of them leave LA scene due to lack of business and stress. Who would want to work in a city where most mongers don't tip and want bb, wild fucking, pretty face, spinner body, etc. They would rather go to norcal where tech mongers are loaded to the teeth and can tip generously.

K-girls don't move to bay area because they are afraid of being found out. Most Koreans turn blind eye on sex workers in Korean red districts. We don't really care. Sex work was a big part of korean history ( 기생). K-Girls want to stay in LA because there is big korean community here. Food culture is prolly most important reason why you don't see k-girls in middle of US. Most of k-girls are in heavily populated Korean community. But in the end, they move away to bay area where they can make more money and have less stress. Bay area community doesn't demand bb. K girls just happen to offer it more because they know that these bay area whales will buy them all the things they want. In LA, most mongers aren't whales and they complain whenever there is upcharge.

[LC310]

I'm literally only saying this because you guys constantly complain how today kgirl scene is lacking. I know most mongers won't even view sex workers as human beings. K-girls like Erica are here solely for money, not sex. At the same time, we all want more girls like Erica. Being at least understanding that these k-girls may not satisfy all your needs is better than being a total dick. At the end, idrc if you guys rip her in half. If you want someone like Erica to stay and you like ripping k-girls in half, then don't complain why k-girl scene is lacking in LA. There are plenty of money in other parts of US and even Canada.

Garbage? Cool story, brah.

I have heard from two different K-girls that SoCal makes them nervous because of the size of the Korean population and the chance they may get found out.

Look at the population of Koreans in California by county and do a risk assessment on where you would want to work and not be found out, but there are also clients with money.

Guys are guys wherever they work from cuddle bunnies to bat swinging pornstar wannabes. They know the deal and they know that the way to the fattest bank account is being a good actress and making everyone feel they got what they came for and hopefully returns as it is the easiest way to reduce their work stress and know what they are going to earn. A girl with 100 once a month clients knows minimum earnings and what to prepare for with each session. That's a lot less stressful than each client being a mystery and potentially a one and done.

Bottom line is that they are independent contract-ish workers for an agency and they need to manage their risk (physical/mental/emotional/etc) while maximizing their earnings.