"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[CigarsAndBeer]

Thanks guys for the info and the Seeking tips!

I appreciate that you answered my newbie questions and gave me more information than I even asked for. I think I'll give it a shot and let you know how it goes.

[SoonerFan72]

Typical scammer, unable to verify pics.

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...3-2e4d7abea943

[Peter Johnson]

I largely came to town to meet WittyBae, who was going to sleep over, cuddle, etc. Went silent the entire trip, later said she had issues with her son. Rescheduled for the next day, time came, crickets, said sorry I'm drunk.

Made plans for Kawaiikitty to come over. She indicated she's on the way. When 30 min late said sorry about traffic, then she's parking, then crickets. When I called her out said "sorry I love someone else I can't do this".

Great times.

Yes been there done that, many times. As we all know, most women are a bit messed up in the head, and these SA girls are a step beyond that. But of course they are crazy in some good ways, as well. But been flaked on and ghosted like this quite a few times, so again, I know how frustrating and demoralizing it can be.

To minimize the damage, I usually won't drive very far unless I have other fun plans in the same area, like going hiking, etc. I make them drive to me (and offer to put gas in their car), and then if they don't show up, I don't lose much time and $. And I never book the room until they meet me there. , and feel comfortable with proceeding Of course they could theoretically bail after that, but they want that $$, so that is probably rare and hasn't happened to me yet.

But the sting will go away in a short while and you can get out there and find one that makes up for all the bullsh*t that the others put you through.

[GoneForGood97]

I want to dip my toe in this scene since it seems many of you have had success. So I started creating a profile.

I want to keep a low profile on the site, but I assume I have to post a photo to have any luck on the site? I'm hesitant to do so.

And this site is pricy! Nearly $100 a month for premium? Is that required to get any attention on the site or to message the girls?

Thanks for any tips you can provide.

As another poster advised, you want a pic or 2, but you can find a lookalike pic or block your face if you're concerned about privacy.

Yes it's pricey. If you can wait till labor day they'll likely run a $80 special for 1 month.

A lot of guys (especially the guys who post about having little to no success on the site) treat this just like they would an escort site. They just message a girl something like "how much?" Or "200 for a BJ and fuck" etc etc. If you do that, you won't have much success, and the little success you do have will likely be with the semi-pros on the site.

Treat this like a dating site (unless you're one of those assholes who sends unsolicited dick pics on Tinder. In which case you're hopeless and should just stick to tryst and Eros escorts). Read the girls bios and ask a question or two about the things in it. Get to know them. It doesn't take much to separate yourself from the 100's of guys who just act like rude entitled ass hats. After a few "get to know you" questions, ask them if you can talk more on text or snapchat (oh and setup a fake / burner snapchat account). Once you've moved them to text or snap (and NEVER talk specific arrangement details like $ or specific acts on the site. Always leave that to discussions over text message or snap), ask what they are looking for from the site. Tell them you're looking for the same, and you would love to meet up with them. Ask them if they are comfortable hosting or if you'll need to get a hotel. Once you know that, ask them if they want to meet for coffee or a drink first, or if they want to immediately start the arrangement and meet up at the hotel / their place. If they want a coffee first, take them out on a coffee date, be nice and respectful, and after an hour or so ask them if they want to talk more somewhere private. Some will immediately agree to a hotel or go back to their place, some will hesitate. If they hesitate, clarify you mean you just wanted to sit in the car and talk about arrangement details.

While in the car (or any point prior where they agree they want to proceed with the arrangement) ask them what they are looking for in regards to the arrangement. Some will immediately give you a $ figure, some will play coy and give neutral generic answers. If they give you a $ amount that's in your budget, agree and let them know you're ready to start the arrangement if they're ready to go back to their place or hotel. If they are coy, say you will start things on a pay per meet (PPM) basis and offer them whatever amount you want to offer. I've found 300 if they host and 200 if I need to get a hotel to work fairly well in the city. If they are over an hour outside Atlanta, I usually do 150 if I need to get the hotel and 200 if they host (like most things, arrangements cost more in Atl). If they argue or say no, that's ok. Move to the next girl. If they accept, then get them in a bed and have a blast.

NEVER agree to pay $ for a non-intimate date. If a girl insists on getting paid $ upfront or getting paid for just the meet and greet, block and move to the next one. They only get sugar once they are giving sugar. Any girl who pretends not to know that is a scammer or not worth your time.

And just like with escorts, never pay for a deposit, or gas money in advance, or pay them for a room in advance. You'll get ghosted. Stick with cash only (they'll often whine and beg and plead for you to use Cashapp or Venmo, don't). When they ask for money in advance, or if you've seen them once already and they later hit you up for some help, just tell them you only deal in cash, and you're happy to help them, when are they available to meet up? Remember, only sugar for sugar.

Finally, NEVER agree to pay $ for a non-intimate date, and NEVER pay anything in advance. Yes, I'm saying it twice. It's that important.

I'll tell you if you're just polite and respectful the fish will literally just jump into the boat. That's not to say you won't get flaked on or have some bad experiences (just like in real online dating) but if you keep taking swings at the ball, you'll eventually hit it. Being polite and respectful will also get you better rates. There are girls on here that guys have reviewed and said they had to pay 400-500 to hit, and the girls had GPS, that I reached out to and had them riding my cock and begging to swallow me for 200 or 300; even had one who enjoyed our time together she would occasionally just text me to hook up for free because she was horny and she knew I'd make sure she had a good time. It's a buyers market. Have fun. But it's a lot of time / work / effort to sort the good from the bad. Stick to your budget, be willing to walk away from the girls that won't meet your budget expectations, and sharpen your negotation skills, and you can fuck a lot hotties who feel more like fucking a GF than an escort.

[LogJammin18]

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...4-0e050af064c9

Real but GPS and way too vanilla to not be willing to accept a reasonable donation. Doesn't do head but wants DATY, no spanking or anything else rough. Cute enough, but cuter fish in the sea. Offered 200 since she wouldn't host (but was open to it if it become a LTR) but whined about it. Not worth the effort considering she's probably a boring lay and she's closer to Marietta than the city.

She came and took care of me after another girl bailed at the last minute. She is thick and country, but got into it in bed and was not boring at all. If you want to bareback a 20 year old blonde with a phat ass for $$ not a bad choice.

[LogJammin18]

I want to dip my toe in this scene since it seems many of you have had success. So I started creating a profile.

I want to keep a low profile on the site, but I assume I have to post a photo to have any luck on the site? I'm hesitant to do so.

And this site is pricy! Nearly $100 a month for premium? Is that required to get any attention on the site or to message the girls?

Thanks for any tips you can provide.

I think you will find you will have alot of number and 4 or 5 girls that are DTF after 30 days and won't have to renew for awhile.

[NashPilot]

I largely came to town to meet WittyBae, who was going to sleep over, cuddle, etc. Went silent the entire trip, later said she had issues with her son. Rescheduled for the next day, time came, crickets, said sorry I'm drunk.

Made plans for Kawaiikitty to come over. She indicated she's on the way. When 30 min late said sorry about traffic, then she's parking, then crickets. When I called her out said "sorry I love someone else I can't do this".

Great times.

[2me4Looking2]

I want to dip my toe in this scene since it seems many of you have had success. So I started creating a profile.

I want to keep a low profile on the site, but I assume I have to post a photo to have any luck on the site? I'm hesitant to do so.

And this site is pricy! Nearly $100 a month for premium? Is that required to get any attention on the site or to message the girls?

Thanks for any tips you can provide.

I have one pic on the site and it has a blurred face. I used to use a fake pic, but after having a couple of girls I was very interested in get upset that I used a fake pic I quit with fake pics and just don't show my actual face on the site. Most won't really care if you use a fake pic, and I did it for years with success, but I had one that I was very interested in and that was a deal breaker for her so I avoid it now if at all possible. I will occasionally send a fake pic if someone seems kind of suspicious, but that's generally with someone I'm not likely to move forward with anyway.

[LogJammin18]

For STD testing. If you want to get tested and make sure you are anonymous, here is what I do:

Go to http://myprivatelabs.com. You can sign up under a fake name online / email address, they send you paperwork under that name that you take to a local lab (labcorp) and on the paper work it tells the lab to not ask for I'd. Lab send the results back to your account online for you to look at. No doctors.

They basically send you a PDF of the results with your daddy name on it that you can show your girl. It has been my ticket to bareback these college girls without any push back over the last few years. Highly recommend.

Hello,

Could any of you help / provide some tips on where could I get tested for STD's. I wanted to get that done as it could bring some confidence for the girl I am going to meet soon and it might be a better thing to do as well. I never have unprotected anywhere and usually very clean but just wanted to get it done for the sake of it.

[Peter Johnson]

I want to dip my toe in this scene since it seems many of you have had success. So I started creating a profile.

I want to keep a low profile on the site, but I assume I have to post a photo to have any luck on the site? I'm hesitant to do so.

And this site is pricy! Nearly $100 a month for premium? Is that required to get any attention on the site or to message the girls?

Thanks for any tips you can provide.

Yes it's over $100 a month now, but that's good, because it limits the competition, and otherwise, would be a million horny guys on there. It is kind of a buyer's market on there, at least if you aren't talking about the top tier, supermodel girls.

And yes you definitely want a photo in your profile, but doesn't have to be one of you. I just find a pic online with bad lighting or from far away, so you can't see the guy's face clearly, or hardly at all. The one I have up there looks like some dude who is 20 years younger and different body type, but hasn't really slowed me down, I don't think. Most of these girls are mainly about the $$$, and they are banging a lot of old dudes, so you don't have to be attractive, just marginally f*ckable.

[DaRiv]

Old profile name was Afanceau if you're searching here.

Had fun with her too, damage was $$ and she came to me.

Yes this is the one that is 90% deaf. I saw her and you couldn't pay me to see her again. I actually didn't pay her anything because of how she acted. Started telling me about how she knows the game better than anyone and she's a professional and has been one forever. That she's better than all the younger prettier girls because she knows what men really want. Started saying how she deserves 3 and 400 per meet and how she's going to meet all of the other girls on the site and train them how to be a better and more professional *****. Going to write a book and some other BS like this. Was trying to give me a hard time because I wouldn't give her 3 or 400 and I told her at her age and body type etc she's no where near work that much compared to the other younger girls that are much hotter and do more than she does. That, that kind of money gets you a few hours and multiple rounds. She just argued with me and told me how she knows so much better, all while talking about the way she's hiding this from her children and she's done it for 25 years plus and she's a real professional. She lives in a dream world. We were done and I went out to my car where I was going to send some Mario coins but decided not to. I'm sorry but you can't look like her and then be conceited.

[HhDancer09]

I want to dip my toe in this scene since it seems many of you have had success. So I started creating a profile.

I want to keep a low profile on the site, but I assume I have to post a photo to have any luck on the site? I'm hesitant to do so.

And this site is pricy! Nearly $100 a month for premium? Is that required to get any attention on the site or to message the girls?

Thanks for any tips you can provide.

You can wait for promo to sign up if you're patient. You have to be a premium member to message. But yes, I'd say to have some kind of success, pic and decent bio to attract them and / or to get them to respond. I've had a lot of success with responses but other factors do come into play (age, personality, looks, etc.) if you're looking for specific types.

[SoonerFan72]

Did not see her but exchanged info. She's married, swinger. Wants $ $ $ $ $ ppm. Can't host. Seems nice enough but too many options more budget-friendly.

I figured she would be higher dollar, just wanted confirmation. Thanks bro.

[MariettaJoe]

Ah yes, that's her. And, that's definitely a rebranded profile. All these ladies are escorts in a way, but she's more escort than SB, given she rents out rooms and sees people back-to-back. She was nice, although very close if not crossing the border into BBW territory (I don't know why she insists on taking pictures with tight clothes over her gut). There are certainly better options, but she isn't bad, if you're really in a pinch.

Old profile name was Afanceau if you're searching here.

Had fun with her too, damage was $$ and she came to me.

[BrownSugaTwo]

I saw her a few months ago too, and that is a re-brand. I forgot her old profile name, but she is fairly active and one of my other friends has seen her too. I think PPM was about 200.

Ah yes, that's her. And, that's definitely a rebranded profile. All these ladies are escorts in a way, but she's more escort than SB, given she rents out rooms and sees people back-to-back. She was nice, although very close if not crossing the border into BBW territory (I don't know why she insists on taking pictures with tight clothes over her gut). There are certainly better options, but she isn't bad, if you're really in a pinch.