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Avaocmassage
I'm sure this is a well worn path, but I only recently saw ava for the first time after years of seeing her ad and passing her over for other better options. As krystal has gotten way more expensive, I figured I would try ava and see what she's all about. The pictures on her ads make her seem a little more thick than she actually is. She is not petite but slimmer with more perky breasts than full as the photos suggest.
Her office in CM is pretty professional and easy to access but booking can be difficult since she's pretty busy.
The massage was similar to krystal but with less pressure and hand strength, which wasn't the worst thing in the world considering she actually knows a little about physiology.
She kept her clothes on for the majority of the massage and only stripped for the finish, which was a bit lackluster (jackhammer and denied mutual play), but overall a good backup option to have.
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More of a cultural thing really
 Originally Posted by RBFSyndrome
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It only works in asia bc labor is cheap there. All the cute young Asian girls here either don't want to work in this field or want $$.
Japanese labor is pretty expensive, and mongering can be expensive there depending on which way the yen swings against the dollar. It's just that Japan isn't as hung up over handjobs and blowjobs as we are. Our country needs to loosen up a bit, or a lot actually. Even Canada has legalized handjob shops in certain provinces. It won't happen here though. Just imagine some politician trying to introduce legislation to legalize handjob shops.
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 Originally Posted by Grimmy23
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That's where I miss my business trips to Japan. They have places over there that specialize in that. You can pay to jerk off in front of one or sometimes 2 or 3 girls while they sit on a couch a few feet in front of you. Depending on the place you can pay extra to get the girl to take her clothes off and maybe play with herself or with another girl while you jerk off, lick and suck on your nipples, let you cum on them, etc. Some of them start as self service and finish with them giving you a BBBJ. The possibilities are endless. They range from pretty cheap to really expensive depending on how wild you want to get. Our culture is just way too uptight to have places like that right out in the open. If someone started a shop like that here it would be pretty popular I think.
It only works in asia bc labor is cheap there. All the cute young Asian girls here either don't want to work in this field or want $$.
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 Originally Posted by Grimmy23
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I'm living in the world of an owner of a legit massage busines who knows what in the hell he's talking about. I know the industry extremely well. If you don't want to believe it, that's on you.
We are fortunate to have Grimmy with us, filling us in on the legit part of this profession, something most of us (at least me) know little about.
Lift Her Up.
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Korean babe?
 Originally Posted by LiftHerUp
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Couldn't resist after reading this review, LOL. I called ahead, asking for "Mindy. " Drove up, and was impressed that even though it's on a busy street, the lack of garish signage left me feeling inconspicuous as I rang the doorbell.
"Mindy" wasn't there (of course), and I went with the girl who met me at the door, "Monica. " This turned out to be sweet. She's Korean, from Seoul, heavily accented English, with the body shape I associate with Koreans and that I just love, stocky squared off shoulders but not fat, and beautifully formed large breasts.
I had a good time. Her CBJ was so effective I came during it, then entered her ACG for CFS while I was detumescing, something off my bucket list I guess.
Monica says she works every day, poor girl. But then, if she's working every day, maybe she's not so poor.
As a P.S. , I got a text yesterday telling me Mindy will be working Monday, FWIW.
Lift Her Up.
https://us-orangecounty.bedpage.com/.../21138232.html
Holy cow, there's a young Korean masseuse working in OC? Dude it's only Monday but now you got me planning my monger activities for the week already!
I've included a link to their post above. BTW "Mindy" is the last picture the girl bending over in front of the mirror.
Thanks for the report.
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 Originally Posted by Grimmy23
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I know the industry extremely well. If you don't want to believe it, that's on you. Don't think there's an industry blacklist? Sorry, but you're sorely mistaken. I won't elaborate any further here. People in this thread don't like to hear about this stuff
Hilarious.
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What world am I living in?
 Originally Posted by Nitescape
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LMAO. Are you trolling me? Secret shoppers?
Bruh, Zeel and Soothe are filled with negative reviews because they can't get enough "therapists" and have to constantly cancel appointments made by customers. The therapists are complaining because they can't get responses from management. I highly doubt that a company who can't keep up communications with their own employees has the resources to hire undercover brother to make sure that somewhere, two consenting adults engage in a handjob at the end of a massage. There also isn't some published "blacklist" for a therapist who may have given a handjob to someone. What world are you living in? I get it, cancel culture and society has created an upside-down world, but this is a bit much.
I do agree tho that with a service like Zeel or Soothe, it's less likely; However I don't think it's such a big deal for consenting adults to make mutually beneficial arrangements. We have many home delivery people that service my condo building. The delivery people usually work for Instacart or something like that (which is pretty much the same exact thing as Zeel, just for groceries instead of massage). The delivery people often make special arrangements with us, which benefits everyone. They'll stop for cigarettes or liquor or other items, in addition to the groceries. It's common sense.
I think society today has way too many people uptight and fucked-up. Anyways, if I explore this route I will share my experience either positive or negative. And I know that I can easily go to the places that specifically cater to HE / nuru service but to have an incall setup would be much nicer. I had a setup like this with a Yoga instructor in the past. I met her taking her class at a yoga studio, and then hired her for private training, and then we moved things to her training me at my place instead of the studio, and finally things went from regular therapy to extra. She never felt "unsafe" because she wasn't a little girl. She was an adult, we got to know each other, she learned I was a person of substance and success, and walah.
I'm living in the world of an owner of a legit massage busines who knows what in the hell he's talking about. I know the industry extremely well. If you don't want to believe it, that's on you. Don't think there's an industry blacklist? Sorry, but you're sorely mistaken. I won't elaborate any further here. People in this thread don't like to hear about this stuff, so feel free to post in the Rants & Stupid Shit thread and I'll banter about it there.
There's a huge difference between a massage therapist and an instacart driver making an extra stop at 7-11 on the way to delivering your groceries. Massage is a licensed profession. They have to go to school and maintain a license in order to practice their trade. If they screw up and get their license suspended then they have to find a new way to make a living. Instacart drivers aren't going to get fired for making an extra stop for something other than groceries, and they aren't even employees. If something happens to them they just find another delivery service to work for.
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Try any foot massage in their title LOL
 Originally Posted by Shender79
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Seen a few mentions of "DIY" on here, but looking for the best OC spots that will tease the absolute hell out of me but make me do the work. It's my itch. So not legit but not HE. Any spots or MT recs?
Plenty of foot massage.
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Good and bad AMPs of the week
Bad AMPs.
Stay away from 440 fair. In cm. Lots of LE last few days.
I saw them haul away 2 girls from Rose spa.
Oasis spa in sa. Went back to see if the new talent was in and no there wasn't any.
Tlc in cm. Lame he. No boob grabbing or ass grabbing. Just shoved you out.
Tida Thai in cm. Rush job and jack hammer and fugly women.
Cloud 9 is a cloud joke.
Good AMPs.
Panda. In Tustin. BJ and cim.
Jx in Tustin. Mamasan nice tits and he.
Elegant body massage in cm Ask for Lulu. Hot hot hot.
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 Originally Posted by Grimmy23
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These places quite often have secret shopper type programs in place for quality control and adherence to policy (I do the same). In other words they plant customers who, unknown to the providers, are actually informants reporting back to management.
LMAO. Are you trolling me? Secret shoppers?
Bruh, Zeel and Soothe are filled with negative reviews because they can't get enough "therapists" and have to constantly cancel appointments made by customers. The therapists are complaining because they can't get responses from management. I highly doubt that a company who can't keep up communications with their own employees has the resources to hire undercover brother to make sure that somewhere, two consenting adults engage in a handjob at the end of a massage. There also isn't some published "blacklist" for a therapist who may have given a handjob to someone. What world are you living in? I get it, cancel culture and society has created an upside-down world, but this is a bit much.
I do agree tho that with a service like Zeel or Soothe, it's less likely; However I don't think it's such a big deal for consenting adults to make mutually beneficial arrangements. We have many home delivery people that service my condo building. The delivery people usually work for Instacart or something like that (which is pretty much the same exact thing as Zeel, just for groceries instead of massage). The delivery people often make special arrangements with us, which benefits everyone. They'll stop for cigarettes or liquor or other items, in addition to the groceries. It's common sense.
I think society today has way too many people uptight and fucked-up. Anyways, if I explore this route I will share my experience either positive or negative. And I know that I can easily go to the places that specifically cater to HE / nuru service but to have an incall setup would be much nicer. I had a setup like this with a Yoga instructor in the past. I met her taking her class at a yoga studio, and then hired her for private training, and then we moved things to her training me at my place instead of the studio, and finally things went from regular therapy to extra. She never felt "unsafe" because she wasn't a little girl. She was an adult, we got to know each other, she learned I was a person of substance and success, and walah.
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What's the address?
 Originally Posted by AlexRodriguez
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I was down in OC recently and got ghosted by a gilfian provider.
So off I went to Happy in SA and got "Nicey".
Not a looker, at all, and wore like a full on overall type outfit. Weird.
Decent massage, didn't mind my roaming and eventually got completely naked for BBBJ & daty.
Decent BBBJ. Nice and slow and he got very excited and came easily during daty.
I stood up to enter her bare and she pointed out the condom she had placed on the bed.
I smiled and told her no thank you and away we went. Very nice BBFS with a very tight pussy.
Please note she is not a looker really at all and she has a bit of a belly so. Yeah..
Yo I need the address to this place. Please.
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Recs for Bamboo & YZ
 Originally Posted by HeartlessJay
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I would think your best bet would be at a place like Bamboo that does such a great job of teasing and edging. Tell the girl, or demonstrate, that you want to take care of junior yourself. She can fiddle with your nutsack and bung hole while you're at it. But if you truly want to experience just as you've stated, see Yoyo at YZ. She's really cute and gives a good massage with teasing, but she will NOT touch your pecker.
Thanks Jay, this is what I'm looking for. I've seen a few names floated around the thread, but curious if you have recommendations for the cutest ones at Bamboo (fit 20's-30's) and at YZ if Yoyo is not available?
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 Originally Posted by HeartlessJay
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I would think your best bet would be at a place like Bamboo that does such a great job of teasing and edging. Tell the girl, or demonstrate, that you want to take care of junior yourself. She can fiddle with your nutsack and bung hole while you're at it. But if you truly want to experience just as you've stated, see Yoyo at YZ. She's really cute and gives a good massage with teasing, but she will NOT touch your pecker.
That's where I miss my business trips to Japan. They have places over there that specialize in that. You can pay to jerk off in front of one or sometimes 2 or 3 girls while they sit on a couch a few feet in front of you. Depending on the place you can pay extra to get the girl to take her clothes off and maybe play with herself or with another girl while you jerk off, lick and suck on your nipples, let you cum on them, etc. Some of them start as self service and finish with them giving you a BBBJ. The possibilities are endless. They range from pretty cheap to really expensive depending on how wild you want to get. Our culture is just way too uptight to have places like that right out in the open. If someone started a shop like that here it would be pretty popular I think.
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DIY and Voyeurism at YZ
 Originally Posted by HeartlessJay
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I would think your best bet would be at a place like Bamboo that does such a great job of teasing and edging. Tell the girl, or demonstrate, that you want to take care of junior yourself. She can fiddle with your nutsack and bung hole while you're at it. But if you truly want to experience just as you've stated, see Yoyo at YZ. She's really cute and gives a good massage with teasing, but she will NOT touch your pecker.
There isn't any are and T shop you can't DIY. But YZ might be a challenge for you. It's always been semi legit but I heard that May, the owner, has ordered the doors to be left open to discourage playing. But if your an exhibitionist it might be right down your alley.
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Challenge accepted
 Originally Posted by UciMagic
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If you like Asian spinner, try Apple at Suphattra's Retreat. 5 ft, 96 lbs. HJ only place but if you can score a camel slide from her I'll give you $100😅. I tried and she said no.
Appreciate that. HJ only fine with me, typically how I roll. Been awhile since I been over there but will try it out in a few weeks and let you know if you owe me that 100 LOL.
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