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  1. #25638
    Shill ignore my posts


    Posts: 64
    This is the best advice I've seen in a long time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Toungsten  [View Original Post]
    How's this for an idea. Make a call or send a text, make an appointment and go get laid. If you like it maybe go back. If you don't just move on. That's what this business used to be all about.
    .

  2. #25637
    Quote Originally Posted by SuperMan333  [View Original Post]
    Bay Area SweetAngels Leah.
    Any good? This Radeon girl?

    https://sweetangels.ch/leah

    Shows GFE. Was she pse in LA?

  3. #25636
    Quote Originally Posted by BastardChorum  [View Original Post]
    Of course it would become a much more welcoming experience for new and old players alike in the kgirl scene if such predatory tactics were stopped. However, it won't.
    It won't if nothing is done about it. That's what they want to happen. But if we emphasize every lie or mistreatment and keep a black book on then, it might change. Change doesn't happen instaneously. It is a function of time.

    So long as there exists kgirls that are average looking, out of shape, (insert any number of dud characteristics here) and bookers that are willing or mandated to push them, these practices will continue. What we can do is to alert others of bookers or girls that have such a history or track record to hopefully preempt another monger from experiencing it.
    Exactly. In other words, to make sure each org / booker / ring of girls have a reputation that they can't wash away with rebrand or rename. So many protect the girls but where's protection of mongers from predatory practice?

    That's why I advise against disclosing that you write reviews do to bookers or girls. Just play dumb and say that you don't, full stop. Now for whatever reason you did or somehow your reviews / posts contained details that could be traced back to you. Well, you fucked up.
    I completely disagree here. Why do you shift the blame to mongers instead of entity that does unfair shit? Its a piece of shit tactics to rag on mongers reviews if they are honest and truthful. The orgs can take a dick, they can take a harsh but truthful review.

    You want a tale? From some reviews posted in a private, mind you, group, org lackeys were able to connect a review to the monger. This is a private fucking group for bay area with only about 100 members and maybe 35 active. Forget about public forum.

    If you want to warn others of bad product, you ideally do on day 1. There are only so many mongers who see a girl on the first day, so it can be traced back easily. Either more mongers are misled or you are caught by org lapdogs. It's really not as easy as tell them you don't write reviews. And it's really not your fault that you got caught by them deciphering your monger persona. Any details you mention, any specific deeds, etc will further expose you. But you want there to be more details for your fellow mongers! Why do we have to cower in fear that some org will threaten us for writing truthful and honest recap. Even worse, if they have all your pii info they can go far with blackmail.

    Retire the handle and take up a new one if you want help others, the community, and as a result yourself going forward.
    Many handles build up cred to be credible. A new handle review is often viewed through a prism of suspicion. Changing handles all the time is not even a bandaid solution, much less a solution. I personally never trust new handles with glowing reviews. They are usually shills or fake reviews aimed to stir up business. And they are rather obvious.

    I never said reviews shouldn't matter. I stated that it should be inconsequential in the matter of how standing is determined.
    But they are! Many mongers reported a situation during covid where a PO texted a monger and chided them for "harsh" reviews during "harsh" times. The fuck? If your product sucks don't let the door hit it on the way out. Harsh review my ass. Mongers have reported an org telling them to not write a negative review again to take it down or else they be BLd. The only time orgs are ok with negative review is when a girl leaves. Then they don't give a shit. Hell I knew an org that would have own shills write bad review of girl right after she left, trying to preserve the illusion of credibility of these shills.

    If orgs can bl you for a truthful and honest review, reviews surely impact your standing. Come on now.

    1. I already addressed this above. This is not going to change and is out of our immediate control. PSA's, posts, and reviews are the only mitigation measures we can take.
    It is not outside of our immediate control. If we point finger and say the name of every single agency org and girl that employs such tactic, loudly on a public forum, after doing it for a long time, they might just start putting out more truthful info out there. Shiiit even some gilf corgs in my area have more truthful body pics than korgs do. And worst thing is? You can't walk or they threaten to bl you. You are paying for a pig in a poke, a blind date, and rolling the dice. And you can't even walk because booker got you spooked with threats of bl that extends to other orgs in your area. And if they got your pii you might be done for.

    2. By how frequently you circle back to this point, I can only assume that you or monger (s) you know were in that type situation. Ideally, you don't want any bookers or girls to know that you write reviews. As this can and will become a weakness that can be leveraged against you. Again, addressed above. Restart with a new handle and learn to limit information that can be tied to you. This also goes for sharing with other mongers directly, there's no need to divulge any details specific to you to anyone. If questioned why you stopped writing reviews, just come up something plausible. I don't think they'll punish you for no longer writing reviews. As for me, I've been questioned by bookers about reviews / handles and have been asked by many girls to review them but I've always been consistent in saying that I don't review. Consistency is the key as you never know if the girls or bookers are back channeling on you with each other. Keep in mind that the amount of mongers that do review is a very small slice of the active monger pool.
    And once again, I disagree.

    Orgs have long reach. They got some insider mongerd doing errands and watching boards for them. Many many times I've had mongers complain that the org figured out who they were. The review and feedback system is for them to get feedback. , not to advertise their product. I don't give two shits about their biz. It is not our fault that in order to warn mongers many write their review on the same day or the day after, therefore letting orgs figure out who is who.

    3. This is a matter of perspective in my opinion. And as such I can only speak for myself. We're all adults here. Who I ultimately choose to see, how it turns out, and the consequences that arises thereafter falls squarely on my shoulders. I have a responsiblity to myself to research and evaluate to the best of my ability that a specific kgirl is worth seeing. The mentalities of others and their willingness to share information or post reviews are out of my control. Therefore, I can only rely on what's available to me, red herring and all. It's all a part of this broken and dysfunctional system we call kgirls which even leaves the best of us muddled at times.
    I don't disagree but you again did not give a direct answer. Here, let's reduce it to absurdity. Stand by truth and lose all access to Korean pussy as peddled by all org in your metro area. Or appease the org and keep your standing. This was my question from the beginning. I feel like I might understand what your answer is, but I prefer to have it said more directly without sugarcoating or fluff. You know my answer. Bros hoes. Truth lies.

  4. #25635

    Lisa

    Quote Originally Posted by DatStuddd  [View Original Post]
    Anyone been with Lisa from Candygirl? How was she?
    Do search on Lisa and you will find a few stellar reviews of her posted here.

    I saw her recently and had same wonderful experience as other reviewers! Cute face with pretty eyes and beautiful smile. Hot body with nice sized enhanced tits, toned thighs and nice ass. Service queen who loves to please and open to most anything except greek. Lots of excellent DFK. Allows DATO on her sexy ass and O's from DATY and will share her juices in DFK without wiping face beforehand. Generous with 2 rounds of rimming. Nice BBBJ / bls with prostate massage included (her hands are tiny so can't get too deep LOL). BBFS in multiple positions with CIP and CIM with swallow. Can't go wrong with Lisa.

  5. #25634
    Quote Originally Posted by Toungsten  [View Original Post]
    How's this for an idea. Make a call or send a text, make an appointment and go get laid. If you like it maybe go back. If you don't just move on. That's what this business used to be all about.
    Yeah, that's good advice. I vote with my wallet. If a girl's bad I don't go back or, if I get that info from a trusted monger, I'll stay away. I honestly don't give a shit about the orgs most of the time and consider them a necessary evil. If there's a girl I want to see I'll see her. I'm not fucking the booker or boss after all.

  6. #25633
    Quote Originally Posted by Cricket79  [View Original Post]
    No pancake ass and no roast beef pussy is my motto.
    That's a good motto!

    Roast beef pussy. Ugh!

  7. #25632
    Troll, if you don't put me on ignore then don't complain about what I post


    Posts: 2883

    Melodi from 2 pop

    As long time monger would say. Any information?

  8. #25631
    Quote Originally Posted by PussyDestroyr  [View Original Post]
    I agree her service is exceptional, but she ain't 30. Try 50.
    She's 42 and amazing!

  9. #25630
    Quote Originally Posted by PussyDestroyr  [View Original Post]
    I agree her service is exceptional, but she ain't 30. Try 50.
    Maybe not 30 and maybe not 50 but at the end of the day her service is exceptional if not better. Makes everything seem real and is very good at it.

  10. #25629
    Shill ignore my posts


    Posts: 64

    Lisa Candygirl

    I have been with Lisa numerous times. She is very cute and has an great body. Service is exceptional. She will f**k the life out of you and want more.

    Quote Originally Posted by DatStuddd  [View Original Post]
    Anyone been with Lisa from Candygirl? How was she?
    .

  11. #25628
    Quote Originally Posted by SneakyHotBoy  [View Original Post]
    Went to see Viki because why'all be hogging up all the hya apparently. Haven't seen her in a while and honestly I have a short term memory for most providers. Like I've probably tried all the top girls that have come through in the last few years but I can't put a name to a face.

    Anyway, if you are in a pinch like me and all the new girls are booked up. Viki is hella solid. She's prob mid 30's but her physique is really great. Also her service is top notch. She cleaned me in places that are traditionally very dirty. She went back for seconds and thirds once she knew I liked it too. I'm talking knuckle deep tongue twisting tonsil yodelling. Also has a great vag to finish in.

    Excellent service. Should always be in your lineup and great for emergencies.
    I agree her service is exceptional, but she ain't 30. Try 50.

  12. #25627
    Quote Originally Posted by JungleFun  [View Original Post]
    This same erika from SAG? Your description matches quite well.
    Yes, the same.

  13. #25626

    Lumi

    Hello,

    Did anyone tried Lumi from LAKangels?

  14. #25625
    Quote Originally Posted by BastardChorum  [View Original Post]
    Of course it would become a much more welcoming experience for new and old players alike in the kgirl scene if such predatory tactics were stopped. However, it won't. To think otherwise would be naive. So long as there exists kgirls that are average looking, out of shape, (insert any number of dud characteristics here) and bookers that are willing or mandated to push them, these practices will continue. What we can do is to alert others of bookers or girls that have such a history or track record to hopefully preempt another monger from experiencing it.
    How's this for an idea. Make a call or send a text, make an appointment and go get laid. If you like it maybe go back. If you don't just move on. That's what this business used to be all about.

  15. #25624
    Quote Originally Posted by RocketManP
    And don't you think if this passage was to be shortened and straightened, it would benefit newbies immensely? This does involve cutting down on predatory tactics from agencies.

    The chief difference here is that you're trying to navigate through lies. And I want the lies and bullying to stop. If that happens then there's barely any navigation left. I'm a service lover and generally the feedback I get is consistent. But if you're a picky face and body lover. I have no idea how'd you stay in the game and not be frustrated. Unless someone distributes real pics utr, all you have is pics that are psd to death and other mongers recap that don't exactly paint a sketch approximation of a kgirls face. Or body for that matter. There are fat girls out there masquerading as thin git ones in their pics. This is pure disrespect to your own customers to do this.
    Of course it would become a much more welcoming experience for new and old players alike in the kgirl scene if such predatory tactics were stopped. However, it won't. To think otherwise would be naive. So long as there exists kgirls that are average looking, out of shape, (insert any number of dud characteristics here) and bookers that are willing or mandated to push them, these practices will continue. What we can do is to alert others of bookers or girls that have such a history or track record to hopefully preempt another monger from experiencing it.

    Quote Originally Posted by RocketManP
    It shouldn't but often is. When an agency texts you saying take down that negative review or we will blacklist you, and never do that again. Is the definition of mutually exclusive.
    That's why I advise against disclosing that you write reviews do to bookers or girls. Just play dumb and say that you don't, full stop. Now for whatever reason you did or somehow your reviews / posts contained details that could be traced back to you. Well, you fucked up. Retire the handle and take up a new one if you want help others, the community, and as a result yourself going forward.

    Quote Originally Posted by RocketManP
    I'm sorry, but these statements contradict each other.

    You say that reviews shouldn't matter, but clearly they do from your second statement. Many many times the orgs figure out who the reviewer is themselves. Many orgs have lackeys running around snitching and collecting info. And then standing is impacted. Clearly if you write negative reviews, even if they're fully truthful, it will impact your standing. Why? Is it because orgs and girls are more interested in $ than actually being truthful and have truthful feedback and improve upon it? Reviews are never, were never and never will be intended for advertising. And that's what it feels they are for orgs.

    I'm not terribly interested in how to "work around it". You're just circumventing the problem and leaving the next monger to again run into the same problem. I'm interested in solving the root of the actual problem. Greed breeds deception and negligence towards customers. Many seem to have the mentality "I'm not going to trash this fat girl who can't fuck because then there might be a superstar". But ideally, this fat girl who can't fuck gets zero customers and like any faulty product / good is removed from the lineup fast as hell, with no one biting. And not trashing the girl resulted in many unhappy "Green" mongers being deceived. So, these guys just fucked over other mongers in order to get pussy. How is this fair or ethical?
    I never said reviews shouldn't matter. I stated that it should be inconsequential in the matter of how standing is determined. To the contrary, the very first sentence of the paragraph where you plucked out the second statement starts out by saying that reviews are paramount to mongers. I'll address your later points below as they are essentially the same concerns.

    Quote Originally Posted by RocketManP
    But again, that's not what I asked. You not visiting them is not what I care about. I care about them asking you to remove a public review, to not write anything negative or you're gone from that org. Then what do you do? Please don't say it can't happen to you. Here's the fork in the road, you have to lie / remove truthful review of a negative experience or risk being booted from that agency forever. You don't have an option to pm mongers silently. Your only way of delivering this info is via public channels. So what do you do? Do you take the bl and stand proudly by truth or remove the truth preserving your supply line of pussy? Think of Galileo and his recantation. In this case, it's not your survival in question, merely some pussy that is replaceable.
    From what I can gather, you have mainly three misgivings / points of contention in the kgirl scene: 1) predatory tactics employ by various bookers, 2) coercion by said bookers to takedown / limit / control information that would reflect negatively on the agency or the girls they currently book and 3) mongers that stand by and not "trashing the girl" leading to the deception of other mongers.

    1. I already addressed this above. This is not going to change and is out of our immediate control. PSA's, posts, and reviews are the only mitigation measures we can take.

    2. By how frequently you circle back to this point, I can only assume that you or monger (s) you know were in that type situation. Ideally, you don't want any bookers or girls to know that you write reviews. As this can and will become a weakness that can be leveraged against you. Again, addressed above. Restart with a new handle and learn to limit information that can be tied to you. This also goes for sharing with other mongers directly, there's no need to divulge any details specific to you to anyone. If questioned why you stopped writing reviews, just come up something plausible. I don't think they'll punish you for no longer writing reviews. As for me, I've been questioned by bookers about reviews / handles and have been asked by many girls to review them but I've always been consistent in saying that I don't review. Consistency is the key as you never know if the girls or bookers are back channeling on you with each other. Keep in mind that the amount of mongers that do review is a very small slice of the active monger pool.

    3. This is a matter of perspective in my opinion. And as such I can only speak for myself. We're all adults here. Who I ultimately choose to see, how it turns out, and the consequences that arises thereafter falls squarely on my shoulders. I have a responsiblity to myself to research and evaluate to the best of my ability that a specific kgirl is worth seeing. The mentalities of others and their willingness to share information or post reviews are out of my control. Therefore, I can only rely on what's available to me, red herring and all. It's all a part of this broken and dysfunctional system we call kgirls which even leaves the best of us muddled at times.

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