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  1. #22636

    Busy at increasing rates?

    Quote Originally Posted by BuildingGuy  [View Original Post]
    "The so-called legends and the merely beautiful, built or 'just want to have fun' girls are fully busy. I. e 8 clients a day for as many days a week as they want. According to post-coital chit chat. They don't brag about it but many of their lifestyles reflect real affluence. Except for the girls who really are supporting their families back in Asia. ".
    I made 8 appointments this past week with LA and OC girls. Got my exact time everuptime. And most I booked with only 30 minutes or less notice.

    Zero dixie cups in several wastebaskets.

    No other mens shoes at the door at any place.

    Draw your own conclusions.

  2. #22635
    Quote Originally Posted by CornDoggyDog  [View Original Post]
    He actually says " seeing more clients at a higher rate than what was expected ".

    We all seem to be living in 2015, the so called heydays. Consider rent in WLA and MW rent as an example. 30% increase from 2015 to present. All things we need / enjoy has gone up since 2015. Yes we would like it to be 250 again. Reality is, we are lucky these girls are here. They are worth it to me.
    Whether it was more than before or more than expected it's still been a significant drop off and particularly if the girl was "unpopular" with not so good reviews. Maybe that bottle of mouthwash was sitting there for weeks. Certainly not an indication of success. Every bottle gets to the bottom eventually. Bottom line bookers are telling me it's slow especially with the "unpopular" ones. Why do you think there is so much movement from agency to agency and city to city and all the name changing? It's always because of money or the lack thereof. We can talk about inflation all we want but the rate changes have far surpassed inflation in the past year and there was a time where girls didn't make changes like they do today. By the way the rent is paid by the agency and the upcharge goes to the girls.

  3. #22634

    Just Out of Curiosity

    Quote Originally Posted by GoldDust58  [View Original Post]
    Don't forget their lifestyles could be sponsored. Many NorCal mongers know there are a few guys up there that buy them out for an entire week or month. The girls will straight up tell you someone bought them out and they will be off. BG and LSC has some mongers that will drop 30-40 k for them to not work. Some got jaded with that and started giving shit service. Sad. I know a few girls have mentioned they have sugar daddies.
    "Just out of curiosity, have any of you ever gotten the feeling that some of the girls know more about you than just your name rank and serial number? Have you had providers hit on you for gifts or offered a 'special' relationship? Sometimes there are strange vibes. ".

  4. #22633
    Quote Originally Posted by BuildingGuy  [View Original Post]
    "The so-called legends and the merely beautiful, built or 'just want to have fun' girls are fully busy. I. e 8 clients a day for as many days a week as they want. According to post-coital chit chat. They don't brag about it but many of their lifestyles reflect real affluence. Except for the girls who really are supporting their families back in Asia. ".
    Don't forget their lifestyles could be sponsored. Many NorCal mongers know there are a few guys up there that buy them out for an entire week or month. The girls will straight up tell you someone bought them out and they will be off. BG and LSC has some mongers that will drop 30-40 k for them to not work. Some got jaded with that and started giving shit service. Sad. I know a few girls have mentioned they have sugar daddies.

  5. #22632

    You Are Correct

    Quote Originally Posted by Potus19  [View Original Post]
    Whether you like short ladies, tall ones, big tits, big ass, young or old; to each their own. What peaked my curiosity was statements from members about our ladies not getting enough business due to the "hyperinflated rates" of late ($100 BBFS, $40 msog; some even charging much higher basic rates). What even peaked my curiosity more was statements from members making comments about ladies whom they feel are not worth the up charges nor are deserving of earning a living at all because said lady (ies) are either too old, too fat or too ugly (again, to each their own). So out of curiosity, I went and gave my business (fully paid the up charges, plus tip) to one of the aforementioned ladies described above to see what members are referring to. What shocked me was that business is really booming for these ladies that are supposedly "struggling" to get paying clients (more especially for those that are "unpopular" due to their overall reviews) and are actually seeing more clients at a higher rate than what was expected despite the recent "hyperinflation rates. " The opposite happened (at least for this "unpopular" provider) because as her last client at 1 am (booker and provider agreed to make an exception for me since I'd been a longtime agency fan) I saw this (see pic). Could be an anomaly or it could be a fluke. Regardless, this "unpopular" provider has a steady stream of clients and is laughing herself all the way to the bank. Thoughts?
    "The so-called legends and the merely beautiful, built or 'just want to have fun' girls are fully busy. I. e 8 clients a day for as many days a week as they want. According to post-coital chit chat. They don't brag about it but many of their lifestyles reflect real affluence. Except for the girls who really are supporting their families back in Asia. ".

  6. #22631
    Quote Originally Posted by Potus19  [View Original Post]
    Why does a provider or agency take down their TER reviews, especially if said provider is still using their escort stage name today? Any thoughts?
    Another common reason is TER admin is targeting them for having a high number of review coming from the same IP. What shills forget is your IP can be viewed by TER so multiple entries by the same IP cause red flags and they might delete provider entirely. That's what happened to CLL. All of the girls reviews are gone. Even Vegas Korea thread you will be banned for mentioning them.

    Another case could be some sort of raid / bust. EBK org from Emeryville is entirely gone and so are there no reviews on TER. That's why you can't pull up Sadie / Hyuna reviews. It is blank. She is now at Candygirls.

  7. #22630
    Quote Originally Posted by JrueArtist  [View Original Post]
    One of my weekly girls send me this new website and asked me to spread the word.

    One girl looks familiar and the blonde looks smoking hot!

    I am told that They will be taking appointments soon.

    I will be seeing the blond for first appointment haha.

    https://honeyguavagirls.escortbook.com/models
    God damn she thicc! That's my style of body type that I like too. Let us know how she is!

  8. #22629

    That's True

    Though I didn't take a picture of her bathroom trash can, I did take a look at it and it was to the brim with disposed cups from past blue toasts and used condom wrappers and jimmys. Also, her bathroom closet door was ajar and I saw many used bath towels laying on the floor from past mongers.

    "Originally posted by Yiruma.

    Flawed logic at work. How do we know the Listerine bottle didn't start at <20% full when the day started? To really know how many customers a girl had for the day you'll have to sneak a peak in the trash and count the little dixie cups.

  9. #22628

    I respect your experience and I value your opinion Toungsten

    You make excellent points and yes, you're correct that agencies wide business has been slow in general. That being said, the members recent comments peaked my interest particularly comments targeting providers with less "stellar" reviews and especially providers whom other members here made it their business / mission to say, "hey guys! Don't go to this provider cause she ain't worth the money (or more or less) or because said provider doesn't deserve to earn a living. " (dramatic paraphrasing on my part; but that's how I interpreted it). So out of curiosity, I randomly chose one provider mentioned here in the forums with less stellar reviews and enough targeted bad mouthing from various members posts (essentially killing said providers income) and booked an appointment (I was the last client of the night). As everyone here knows that these ladies have a set protocol of dealing with us during the session. From step A to step Z when we complete the session. The biggest clue that I noticed immediately that told me that said provider is actually experiencing a "boon in business" was her mouthwash bottle near empty at the end of the day (there wasn't enough left for both of us; she had to open a new bottle). The other clue was that said provider was literally exhausted throughout our session (not because of me; I wish LOL &#128521 but because she had say X number of clients previously before me (her last client of the night). During our "cuddle time," I asked why there was no more mouthwash left and her reply was, "so many customers today. " Yes, guys don't generally want to hear that nor would a business minded provider say that either but she was really exhausted from seeing X number of clients before me. So, in this one instance with said example provider she is actually earning her income with a steady stream of clients. The forums have points and counterpoints as to what we should pay and what is "reasonable. " For those that are withholding their hard earned bucks for a better deal, that's entirely your choice. But as other wise members posted earlier, just because one monger doesn't spend their money because of "high" up charges doesn't mean there isn't another monger behind him whom is willing to spend his hard earned dollars and pay the up charges, plus tips (as I have done in the example and many more other mongers have also done). This particular provider didn't just sit back and wait in her room for us mongers to come by just relying on her online ads. She has a steady stream of loyal followers (remember to each his own, YMMV) and I wouldn't be shocked if she used her brains and started texting them soliciting their business by telling her regulars to text the bookers to schedule appointments (which she has). She hustled and provided her services and earned her 8-10 clients per day (I don't know the exact amount as I'm estimating but based on what others discussed here, 8-10 clients a day is the sweet spot to earning buku bucks for these providers). She reminded me of pornstar Andi James whom is known to hustle for clients by aggressively soliciting them through texts and emails (Andi texted / emailed me offering to clear her schedule for me if I agreed to fly her to me and promised to book an overnight date, plus expenses). This is what said provider did and the final clue that confirmed it for me (her business boon) was when we were trying to talk to each other through translation app, she had to recharge her phone for the fourth time that day. Because she'd been texting regular clients all day soliciting them to book appointments through the booker as opposed to sitting in her room daydreaming or watching Korean dramas while waiting for us mongers to show up.

    Providing reviews and tips on the providers we've seen here is to help fellow mongers have a good time for the best deal. That I support and appreciate. Rating providers on looks, skills, and service I too support. But outright denigrating providers and especially going out of your way to kill their means of income is not what this venue is supposed to be about. YMMV. Now, if they're running scams and / or bait and switches then I feel it's fair to put them on blast and make them scurry for the hills. If they're giving you sob stories trying to extort money from you for either their sick grandma or get their very own Chanel purse then yes, it's also fair to forewarn our fellow mongers of these gold diggers.

    "Originally posted by Toungsten.

    So what you're saying is that the upcharge girls and even the ones who aren't popular and have so so reviews are doing better than they were with the lower prices. Sounds like you're saying that the price increase has made "unpopular" providers popular. How did you determine this? That would be like a restaurant serving shittier food and giving worse service and at the same time increasing their business. Why in the world would more mongers flock to girls and increase their business to be more than it was when they were a comparative bargain. I've been mongering for many years and the same girl at a higher price was never something that would draw me in as well as others to make their business better than before. What I've been told by some of those girls and the bookers themselves is that business has slowed down maybe with the exception of maybe some of the outstanding ones. The bookers have said that this increase in price is killing the business. Also what is the significance of the bottle of mouthwash?

  10. #22627
    Quote Originally Posted by Potus19  [View Original Post]
    Whether you like short ladies, tall ones, big tits, big ass, young or old; to each their own. What peaked my curiosity was statements from members about our ladies not getting enough business due to the "hyperinflated rates" of late ($100 BBFS, $40 msog; some even charging much higher basic rates). What even peaked my curiosity more was statements from members making comments about ladies whom they feel are not worth the up charges nor are deserving of earning a living at all because said lady (ies) are either too old, too fat or too ugly (again, to each their own). So out of curiosity, I went and gave my business (fully paid the up charges, plus tip) to one of the aforementioned ladies described above to see what members are referring to. What shocked me was that business is really booming for these ladies that are supposedly "struggling" to get paying clients (more especially for those that are "unpopular" due to their overall reviews) and are actually seeing more clients at a higher rate than what was expected despite the recent "hyperinflation rates. " The opposite happened (at least for this "unpopular" provider) because as her last client at 1 am (booker and provider agreed to make an exception for me since I'd been a longtime agency fan) I saw this (see pic). Could be an anomaly or it could be a fluke. Regardless, this "unpopular" provider has a steady stream of clients and is laughing herself all the way to the bank. Thoughts?
    Flawed logic at work. How do we know the Listerine bottle didn't start at <20% full when the day started? To really know how many customers a girl had for the day you'll have to sneak a peak in the trash and count the little dixie cups.

  11. #22626
    Shill ignore my posts


    Posts: 79
    He actually says " seeing more clients at a higher rate than what was expected ".

    We all seem to be living in 2015, the so called heydays. Consider rent in WLA and MW rent as an example. 30% increase from 2015 to present. All things we need / enjoy has gone up since 2015. Yes we would like it to be 250 again. Reality is, we are lucky these girls are here. They are worth it to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Toungsten  [View Original Post]
    So what you're saying is that the upcharge girls and even the ones who aren't popular and have so so reviews are doing better than they were with the lower prices. Sounds like you're saying that the price increase has made "unpopular" providers popular. How did you determine this? That would be like a restaurant serving shittier food and giving worse service and at the same time increasing their business. Why in the world would more mongers flock to girls and increase their business to be more than it was when they were a comparative bargain. I've been mongering for many years and the same girl at a higher price was never something that would draw me in as well as others to make their business better than before. What I've been told by some of those girls and the bookers themselves is that business has slowed down maybe with the exception of maybe some of the outstanding ones. The bookers have said that this increase in price is killing the business. Also what is the significance of the bottle of mouthwash?

  12. #22625
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  13. #22624
    Quote Originally Posted by Potus19  [View Original Post]
    Why does a provider or agency take down their TER reviews, especially if said provider is still using their escort stage name today? Any thoughts?
    Many reasons.

    Provider doesn't like the review of them?

    Provider doesn't offer specific acts in the review (s)?

    Provider claims this guy she never seen before and its a shamed review?

    Also, if?

    A provider wants to move on from her life and hide this lifestyle from her past so know one can tell on her and not get fired from job?

    I know several Korean gals who went back to Korea or married someone in the USA and wants to keep there escorting life a secret and had there profiles deleted on TER.

  14. #22623
    Quote Originally Posted by JungleFun  [View Original Post]
    I agree, she does not look like an ewok but I can see how someone can see that in her. She's in OC now, her rate are 280/ hr +40 msog, pse +100. I wonder if she grandfathered me in her old rate 300 with M, if not I'm not seeing her, that's ridiculous pricing and I will not participate. Enough people do it, especially once unemployment run out, surely rate will have to come back down. I have yet to see any girls from this newer agency but rate are pretty much consistent.

    https://lakangels.com
    Completely agree. I won't pay the 420. But if she comes back to LA and goes back to 3, I will pound her silly on Saturday or Sunday mornings.

  15. #22622
    Quote Originally Posted by Potus19  [View Original Post]
    Whether you like short ladies, tall ones, big tits, big ass, young or old; to each their own. What peaked my curiosity was statements from members about our ladies not getting enough business due to the "hyperinflated rates" of late ($100 BBFS, $40 msog; some even charging much higher basic rates). What even peaked my curiosity more was statements from members making comments about ladies whom they feel are not worth the up charges nor are deserving of earning a living at all because said lady (ies) are either too old, too fat or too ugly (again, to each their own). So out of curiosity, I went and gave my business (fully paid the up charges, plus tip) to one of the aforementioned ladies described above to see what members are referring to. What shocked me was that business is really booming for these ladies that are supposedly "struggling" to get paying clients (more especially for those that are "unpopular" due to their overall reviews) and are actually seeing more clients at a higher rate than what was expected despite the recent "hyperinflation rates. " The opposite happened (at least for this "unpopular" provider) because as her last client at 1 am (booker and provider agreed to make an exception for me since I'd been a longtime agency fan) I saw this (see pic). Could be an anomaly or it could be a fluke. Regardless, this "unpopular" provider has a steady stream of clients and is laughing herself all the way to the bank. Thoughts?
    So what you're saying is that the upcharge girls and even the ones who aren't popular and have so so reviews are doing better than they were with the lower prices. Sounds like you're saying that the price increase has made "unpopular" providers popular. How did you determine this? That would be like a restaurant serving shittier food and giving worse service and at the same time increasing their business. Why in the world would more mongers flock to girls and increase their business to be more than it was when they were a comparative bargain. I've been mongering for many years and the same girl at a higher price was never something that would draw me in as well as others to make their business better than before. What I've been told by some of those girls and the bookers themselves is that business has slowed down maybe with the exception of maybe some of the outstanding ones. The bookers have said that this increase in price is killing the business. Also what is the significance of the bottle of mouthwash?

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