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  1. #25319

    The MLK defense

    Quote Originally Posted by JPF  [View Original Post]
    My assumption is that people who "dream" about their experiences are trying to protect themselves in case they get busted. Their defense would be that they never explicitly wrote about illegal activities. I am not a lawyer so do not know if that would be effective but I also assume the "dreamers" are the same and are copying something they've seen (or heard about).
    I think your right on both counts but you can just as easily be straightforward in the review then say it was all fantasy in court. One lie is as good as another. I had a dream yesterday as well. I saw Grace at "Old Zi. " Worth a visit. How's that for obfuscation! Some detective is scratching his head over that one.

  2. #25318
    Senior Member


    Posts: 194

    Dreams

    Quote Originally Posted by Sticker  [View Original Post]
    I concur and am baffled why newer mongers (and even some supposed seasoned ones) use oblique references to spas, locations and pricing. And the "I had a dream about. " is a silly waste of keyboard strokes. LE knows what we all know, and they normally don't bother with massage joints unless they get complaints from uptight non-mongers who might be displeased with a steady stream of dudes venturing into the parlor next to the laundromat, convenience store, restaurant, doctor's office, etc.
    My assumption is that people who "dream" about their experiences are trying to protect themselves in case they get busted. Their defense would be that they never explicitly wrote about illegal activities. I am not a lawyer so do not know if that would be effective but I also assume the "dreamers" are the same and are copying something they've seen (or heard about).

  3. #25317
    Quote Originally Posted by VinnieJenkins  [View Original Post]
    Nicole is still works there, just seen her today. She's here everyday except Wednesday and Saturday.
    Just saw Nicole at lp. My guess is mms want to promote her other girls there. I walked in and said I have an apt Nicole and mms said no Nicole here, try a diff one and called out the other girl name. Nicole came out and mms was all quiet.

  4. #25316

    Lucky in GG on Westminster

    Quote Originally Posted by HeartlessJay  [View Original Post]
    Over the years, things have changed at Lucky. 5 or 6 years back I used to go there for legit massage. And a good massage at that. No extras offered at all. All the religious paraphernalia on the shelves and signs in the rooms saying no sex were pretty much true. The place two doors down was just the opposite. No massage, just flip and jack hammer and out the door. Then I met a provider at Lucky that did some light teasing, brushing the boys now and then, and would allow self serve. Then all the providers started allowing self serve, working the sack but refusing to touch the pole. Think they knew they were losing business to the jack shack next door. Then a few years back the legit place bought out the jack shack and combined tactics. Haven't been to Lucky since covid, but I did go next door last month for a very disappointing experience, and wrote it up on this forum. Guess I should visit Lucky again for old time sake. Wonder if it's the same MMS.
    Like Heartless Jay I've been going to the Lucky on Westminster just west of Magnolia for a long time. Always legit until a couple of years ago. When they came back from the shutdown they'd changed their menus like a lot of places. The Viet FS place had relocated. Lili, the mms / owner of Lucky decided to rent both spaces. The women are 55 and older. All will do happy endings. Some a little more. I tried it out of curiosity, not lust. When I go now it's for massage only. For the same entry f you could walk over to SH or Bamboo and find someone 25 years younger and get whatever you want.

  5. #25315
    Quote Originally Posted by HeadorTail  [View Original Post]
    Just a thought on using oblique references to shops. IMO there's no reason to hide shop names now. But the "I had a dream" days are in the past.
    I concur and am baffled why newer mongers (and even some supposed seasoned ones) use oblique references to spas, locations and pricing. And the "I had a dream about. " is a silly waste of keyboard strokes. LE knows what we all know, and they normally don't bother with massage joints unless they get complaints from uptight non-mongers who might be displeased with a steady stream of dudes venturing into the parlor next to the laundromat, convenience store, restaurant, doctor's office, etc.

    Sunnywell Wellness on Garry is classified as Santa Ana but is just a couple of blocks away from Red Hill on the Irvine side of the 55. Hence the confusion, because that part of SA is primarily business parks. I've visited there on and off for 15 years with mixed results. It's the only Korean-run place I'm aware of in the area, and while that can be a plus in terms of service, I haven't enjoyed the true K-girl GFE there for several years. Back then they usually had just one younger +-30 pretty slim girl, and other older ones, from late 30's on up, and not as lovely. Seemed like Wednesdays were one of the regular days for a sweetie, so I was a regular for a while. Hannah was one of the fun ones, followed by Boa later, but Boa always wanted the slow, light and easy routine, from soft kisses and DATY to slow stroking. I like to mix it up a bit, so I got bored with Boa after a while and stopped going there.

    Went back to check it out a couple of months ago on a Friday and got one of the older ones. She was pleasant in attitude, but slightly chunky without being curvy, formulaic in the routine, everything covered and nothing special. So I haven't been back, although if anyone confirms that Sunnywell has continued its tradition of having at least one, slim, young pretty thing, I may give it another shot.

  6. #25314

    Things have changed at Lucky

    Quote Originally Posted by Mdsceg  [View Original Post]
    Tried lucky massage the other day, trying to find new places. The lobby has signs saying "no sexual activity. Etc". Could be a good sign or a bad one. They also had lots of religious stuff like crosses and bible quotes on the walls. Got Tracy, I didn't get a good look at her at first because it was dark and she was wearing a mask. Anyhow $35 for an hour, she did a good back massage and starts playing with my ass. On the flip she massages a bit then gets down to business. Then she puts her finger up my ass while pulling me. This chick takes initiative, I was pleasantly surprised. Didn't really roam at all, she was flat and also old, so I kept my hands down. Anyhow, nice work on her behalf. It's cheap and she really put in the effort. Would recommend if it's the sort of thing your looking for. Tipped $50 for the good service and she was very happy.
    Over the years, things have changed at Lucky. 5 or 6 years back I used to go there for legit massage. And a good massage at that. No extras offered at all. All the religious paraphernalia on the shelves and signs in the rooms saying no sex were pretty much true. The place two doors down was just the opposite. No massage, just flip and jack hammer and out the door. Then I met a provider at Lucky that did some light teasing, brushing the boys now and then, and would allow self serve. Then all the providers started allowing self serve, working the sack but refusing to touch the pole. Think they knew they were losing business to the jack shack next door. Then a few years back the legit place bought out the jack shack and combined tactics. Haven't been to Lucky since covid, but I did go next door last month for a very disappointing experience, and wrote it up on this forum. Guess I should visit Lucky again for old time sake. Wonder if it's the same MMS.

  7. #25313

    S H; Mia

    S H Health Center, Westminster.

    Mia.

    5'6" 130 lbs.

    Late to mid 20-yrs.

    Walk on back. Yup, but super painful. I've never complained about a massage being too hard. This is the first time.

    No teasing.

    Would only accept 60.

    Amazing tits! Small D, soft but perky. Nice sized nipples.

    Dressed rather conservative.

    HJ was ok; if not a bit below okay.

    40 to house; 60 to provider.

    Looks 7/10. Tits 8. 5/10.

    Massage 4/10.

    HJ 3/10.

    May repeat. I am a breast man, and these were nice!

  8. #25312

    Newbie

    Quote Originally Posted by Budweisers13  [View Original Post]
    Has anyone gone to haven spa in Santa Ana? I seen it on rubmaps but it's like across the street from a police station so it looks sus, LOL any input would be appreciated.
    Why is it that the guys with 1 or 2 posts are the ones who ask straight up for info. The way it should work is this, Mr Budweiser. Get on the massage table there at this Haven Spa and then write a report and tell us about your experience.

  9. #25311

    Lucky

    Quote Originally Posted by Mdsceg  [View Original Post]
    Tried lucky massage the other day, trying to find new places. The lobby has signs saying "no sexual activity. Etc". Could be a good sign or a bad one. They also had lots of religious stuff like crosses and bible quotes on the walls. Got Tracy, I didn't get a good look at her at first because it was dark and she was wearing a mask. Anyhow $35 for an hour, she did a good back massage and starts playing with my ass. On the flip she massages a bit then gets down to business. Then she puts her finger up my ass while pulling me. This chick takes initiative, I was pleasantly surprised. Didn't really roam at all, she was flat and also old, so I kept my hands down. Anyhow, nice work on her behalf. It's cheap and she really put in the effort. Would recommend if it's the sort of thing your looking for. Tipped $50 for the good service and she was very happy.
    Which Lucky is this? There are 3 Lucky names in Westminster I believe and one Lucky Massage on Westminster Blvd but in Garden Grove.

  10. #25310

    Westminster

    Tried lucky massage the other day, trying to find new places. The lobby has signs saying "no sexual activity. Etc". Could be a good sign or a bad one. They also had lots of religious stuff like crosses and bible quotes on the walls. Got Tracy, I didn't get a good look at her at first because it was dark and she was wearing a mask. Anyhow $35 for an hour, she did a good back massage and starts playing with my ass. On the flip she massages a bit then gets down to business. Then she puts her finger up my ass while pulling me. This chick takes initiative, I was pleasantly surprised. Didn't really roam at all, she was flat and also old, so I kept my hands down. Anyhow, nice work on her behalf. It's cheap and she really put in the effort. Would recommend if it's the sort of thing your looking for. Tipped $50 for the good service and she was very happy.

  11. #25309

    Name of a shop

    Just a thought on using oblique references to shops. Three or four or ten years ago this forum was full of attempts to cleverly describe the MP's we were visiting. I guess it was an attempt to thwart LE. I was always of the opinion that we aren't any smarter than the average vice cop. If we could decipher it, so could they. Ads laid it between the lines, misspelled (sic) words, vague references. All for safety. Times have changed. Most ads are pretty direct. LE knows what's going on. IMO there's no reason to hide shop names now. Clever is good. Funny is good. But the "I had a dream" days are in the past. I was in a shop a while back that was visited by the police. Several uniformed officers entered the shop. On the way in one of them said hi to one of the ladies by name. As they left another asked if another girl still worked there. See you soon. I'm a dim bulb. Help an old guy out and tell us where you've been.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dohma22  [View Original Post]
    Was pressed for time so couldn't check out the short list of recommended places in Westminster / gg so looked up a place close to where I needed to be after. Found a wellness center in Santa Ana but on the map looked more like Irvine. There's been a few Q's about that place here but no intel so decided to roll the dice cause for me that's part of the fun. Drove to the location and felt nervous cause it's in an office park area and borders Irvine and generally I wouldn't want to do anything around Irvine but what the hell address was Santa Ana so ipd isn't watching right?

    Parked at the location which was an office park not strip mall. Red flag. Also across their door is a health clinic and there was a guy in scrubs working out of his trunk and another car with a family. Both parked in front of the entrance. My guess is he was covid testing them? No idea. Red flag. Oh well let's roll the dice.

    Walked towards the door and of course the guy in scrubs walks out of the adjacent building and we make eye contact. I have to assume he thought I was entering the clinic. Nope! Turn 180 and front door was open. Mamasan greeted and asked if I been here before and I said yes. She asked who I saw I said don't remember I was drunk. Then she said we don't open late to which I responded I day drink!

    Asked if I could choose she said no but everyone is pretty. Get to the room paid. 5 for hh. In walks the provider with a mask wearing skimpy dress. Body looked great and from what I could tell she was maybe early to mid 30's but mask never came off. She's a Kgirl and said also works in Ktown la..

  12. #25308

    Haven spa

    Has anyone gone to haven spa in Santa Ana? I seen it on rubmaps but it's like across the street from a police station so it looks sus, LOL any input would be appreciated.

  13. #25307
    Senior Member


    Posts: 406

    Less than 5 minutes

    Quote Originally Posted by Dohma22  [View Original Post]
    Was pressed for time so couldn't check out the short list of recommended places in Westminster / gg so looked up a place close to where I needed to be after. Found a wellness center in Santa Ana but on the map looked more like Irvine. There's been a few Q's about that place here but no intel so decided to roll the dice cause for me that's part of the fun. Drove to the location and felt nervous cause it's in an office park area and borders Irvine and generally I wouldn't want to do anything around Irvine but what the hell address was Santa Ana so ipd isn't watching right?

    Parked at the location which was an office park not strip mall. Red flag. Also across their door is a health clinic and there was a guy in scrubs working out of his trunk and another car with a family. Both parked in front of the entrance. My guess is he was covid testing them? No idea. Red flag. Oh well let's roll the dice.

    Walked towards the door and of course the guy in scrubs walks out of the adjacent building and we make eye contact. I have to assume he thought I was entering the clinic. Nope! Turn 180 and front door was open. Mamasan greeted and asked if I been here before and I said yes. She asked who I saw I said don't remember I was drunk. Then she said we don't open late to which I responded I day drink!

    Asked if I could choose she said no but everyone is pretty. Get to the room paid. 5 for hh. In walks the provider with a mask wearing skimpy dress. Body looked great and from what I could tell she was maybe early to mid 30's but mask never came off. She's a Kgirl and said also works in Ktown la.

    Massage was light touch which thankfully didn't take long til lots of finger tip teasing. Some light grabbing of the boys. Flipped. No negotiating at all. Pulled top down and bottom of skirt up. No panties. Was allowed to roam and finger no hard rejections just minor body position adjustments. Then to my surprise she relocates to end of the table and goes to town on the boys and chode. Then of course like a ninja slips on the hat with her mouth and CBJ. I was delighted. Body was great. Manmades but there was a lot of meat in there so felt natural. She let me play with the *fish. So delighted that finito was around the corner. Popped and thanked her with 1. She didn't even count.

    Her name was Miki or Kiki. Told mamasan to remember me next time and she said of course and hugged me. Told me Latinas are there on the weekend but weekdays it's Kgirls.

    Will return as found the quality for the $ was spot on it's just the location still makes me uncomfortable vs a seedy strip mall. Search for a wellness center in Santa Ana in Garry and you'll find it. There's ads. Have fun be safe.
    I was reading this FR. The detail was good, but the name "wellness" was unfamiliar to me. I know from experience that Irvine used to have a lot of KAMPs located in business parks. I also know that SA is a city adjacent to Irvine. I go to RM, scroll and review all the MP names in SA. Two use "wellness" in their name; only one is in a business park adjacent to Irvine city limits; only one has a reported house fee of $50-"sunnywell".

    I see a lot of "where is this place?" post. I don't know if these individuals don't know how to fish, or are just too lazy to fish. But for the newbies, the post above is a good example of how to figure it out yourself.

    BTW. I have not been to "sunnywell" in over two decades, but the Sunnywell MMS once claimed to be affiliated with Monica (aka Skypark) -- but the experience was never like Skypark.

  14. #25306
    Quote Originally Posted by VinnieJenkins  [View Original Post]
    Nicole is still works there, just seen her today. She's here everyday except Wednesday and Saturday.
    My only explanation for this is there must be 2 LP, one has an extra l and the other doesn't. I went to the one without the extra l.

  15. #25305

    Two recent experiences

    Within the last few weeks I've gone to two locations that are comfortable and welcoming. The first spot I want to share about does not have a name or I might have missed it. It is on 17th st in Santa Ana. It is in between Lincoln and Grand in a beat up strip mall. I didn't bother asking the provider for her name, but I'd say she was in her early 40's nothing to brag about other than an average looking provider. Paid 40 for 30 minutes and 80 for CBJ.

    Other place is EJ massage. I encourage you guys to try Carol or Karol nice tight body.

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