BBFS Providers Manhattan

[AbuSaho]

The problem IMO isn't the price but the amount of talent available. There is no *minimum rate* that can be standardized. That rate is set by themselves based on who else is in their level or what they think they worth.

There's only a finite amount of dudes that will book at that though. The ones charging at those insane prices either already have a client based or worse case scenario, pretending they're worth that much when they not.

It's like the fuckhead landlords that won't rent out a space for less than a certain amount because they don't want to reduce the value of their property when they're operating at a loss by not renting it at all.

Everyone should be seeing girls within their budget no doubt. The main issue with that is where their quality is supposed to be at for the price we're paying. If you're paying $700+ and it's covered, there's something really fucking wrong about that at least in my opinion.

Great example with the landlords. The end result of that though has been rent around the city has been going down. Maybe the same will happen with the escort prices.

[JBoogie123]

From my experience a lot of the better performances will come in the $400 and up range but at the same time there are a lot of high priced girls who think they deserve it for their looks, perform poorly and rush you out. So I'm very picky and definitely scour reviews if I'm going to pay more than about 250 for anyone. The first time I paid $400 I got both BBFS and the best sex I've ever had, pro or civilian, so she left my expectations high. That's why boards like this are a huge blessing to weed out the bad ones.

Anything over 250 or 300 for BBFS is just wasting money no chick is worth more than that unless you trying to marry her LOL.

[SpaspaHunter]

I totally agree with you a lot of the higher priced women. I will define that as 500 and up do give subpar service. But Minimum wage is going to be $15 December 31. So if you somehow have a job that 600 minus taxes a week. Maybe we get another stimulus check and boosted UI again in February. Minimum wage increase is guaranteed the other two is 50/50. If they happen that is going to be a lot of disposable income out there.

What can we do? I'm thinking on an individual level maybe you can get one girl to lower her rate but we can't fight the system to get them all to lower rates. Too many men with disposable income out there. The higher their rates the more margin of error. Like if their minimum is $1,000 how many clients over 30 days to cover rent/ food/bills. I'm thinking they just need 2-4 Depending on where they live in NYC. While a lot of men would avoid 1k price point they don't need many to break even. The lower rate lets say $100-$200 they'd need to see way more people. But I think the lower the rates it opposite of a 1k women. Those that charge less get a wider pool of men to pick from. Both systems have different reasons why they wouldn't change price if they feel it what they worth.

My suggestion and maybe I'm wrong is to just look for someone in your price range rather than trying to change them. A perfect example being what this section is BBFS. If the girl doesn't offer it right away it might not be best to force it.

The problem IMO isn't the price but the amount of talent available. There is no *minimum rate* that can be standardized. That rate is set by themselves based on who else is in their level or what they think they worth.

There's only a finite amount of dudes that will book at that though. The ones charging at those insane prices either already have a client based or worse case scenario, pretending they're worth that much when they not.

It's like the fuckhead landlords that won't rent out a space for less than a certain amount because they don't want to reduce the value of their property when they're operating at a loss by not renting it at all.

Everyone should be seeing girls within their budget no doubt. The main issue with that is where their quality is supposed to be at for the price we're paying. If you're paying $700+ and it's covered, there's something really fucking wrong about that at least in my opinion.

[BrooklynMatt]

I totally agree with you a lot of the higher priced women. I will define that as 500 and up do give subpar service. But Minimum wage is going to be $15 December 31. So if you somehow have a job that 600 minus taxes a week. Maybe we get another stimulus check and boosted UI again in February. Minimum wage increase is guaranteed the other two is 50/50. If they happen that is going to be a lot of disposable income out there.

What can we do? I'm thinking on an individual level maybe you can get one girl to lower her rate but we can't fight the system to get them all to lower rates. Too many men with disposable income out there. The higher their rates the more margin of error. Like if their minimum is $1,000 how many clients over 30 days to cover rent/ food/bills. I'm thinking they just need 2-4 Depending on where they live in NYC. While a lot of men would avoid 1k price point they don't need many to break even. The lower rate lets say $100-$200 they'd need to see way more people. But I think the lower the rates it opposite of a 1k women. Those that charge less get a wider pool of men to pick from. Both systems have different reasons why they wouldn't change price if they feel it what they worth.

My suggestion and maybe I'm wrong is to just look for someone in your price range rather than trying to change them. A perfect example being what this section is BBFS. If the girl doesn't offer it right away it might not be best to force it.

From my experience a lot of the better performances will come in the $400 and up range but at the same time there are a lot of high priced girls who think they deserve it for their looks, perform poorly and rush you out. So I'm very picky and definitely scour reviews if I'm going to pay more than about 250 for anyone. The first time I paid $400 I got both BBFS and the best sex I've ever had, pro or civilian, so she left my expectations high. That's why boards like this are a huge blessing to weed out the bad ones.

[AbuSaho]

Then that's good for her if she can hook that one client. That's how it is. The girls set their prices based on who is willing to pay it. That's why for certain girls you can negotiate down to reasonable rates. Problem is you got girls doing a minimum rate and offering shit service which is what happens on Eros all the fucking time.

Average minimum there is 400-600 for a decent girl and every time I've caught one it's usually with a sub par performance or offering.

That's what's been happening in the Brooklyn SW side. Car dates are supposed to be comparable due to risk but when a girl is asking 80-100 for some action in your own damn car? That's bullshit because you can get more for your money elsewhere.

Also just because a girl prices herself at 600, it's not like there's plenty of dudes willing to shell that out.

It's fucking sad when I know a girl is a SW and trying to ask for 600/ hr when she's in the supermarket holding up the line because she doesn't have enough money to pay for whatever the fuck she was buying.

So it isn't that they don't have options, everyone has options but certain girls especially if you've gone and see her already and she's not up to par, she needs to be knocked down a few pegs with a reality check.

Just like the girl I was talking about, yeah probably some white dude with an Asian fetish will pay that 1200 rate or 900 rate but in reality she's not special that anyone else can offer.

You've also got girls who run double profiles one more expensive than the other. I forgot which girl did that or if it was talked about here.

And well if they're asking 400/ hr and you're doing a 120 ss then she's in the right already, you can't complain about discounted services to management.

I totally agree with you a lot of the higher priced women. I will define that as 500 and up do give subpar service. But Minimum wage is going to be $15 December 31. So if you somehow have a job that 600 minus taxes a week. Maybe we get another stimulus check and boosted UI again in February. Minimum wage increase is guaranteed the other two is 50/50. If they happen that is going to be a lot of disposable income out there.

What can we do? I'm thinking on an individual level maybe you can get one girl to lower her rate but we can't fight the system to get them all to lower rates. Too many men with disposable income out there. The higher their rates the more margin of error. Like if their minimum is $1,000 how many clients over 30 days to cover rent/ food/bills. I'm thinking they just need 2-4 Depending on where they live in NYC. While a lot of men would avoid 1k price point they don't need many to break even. The lower rate lets say $100-$200 they'd need to see way more people. But I think the lower the rates it opposite of a 1k women. Those that charge less get a wider pool of men to pick from. Both systems have different reasons why they wouldn't change price if they feel it what they worth.

My suggestion and maybe I'm wrong is to just look for someone in your price range rather than trying to change them. A perfect example being what this section is BBFS. If the girl doesn't offer it right away it might not be best to force it.

[SpaspaHunter]

The focus of highest price I saw wasn't on the $700 hour. It was the million for one year. My post was directed at those complaining about the price. There are women out there that charge way more. Obviously our side hope these women keep the price down but all it probably takes is one person a week at those higher rates rate to justify keeping the rate. And for someone like the million escort. All it takes is one person giving her the 400k/600k/1 million and she probably doesn't have to work again for at least a year. Even if we all on USASG NY section boycott the women with those high rates they can probably still find that one person a week to justify that rate.

I'd say while it is cliche in their eyes. If the rate is too high don't tell them or respond after. I understand some think it time to negotiate or like you said tell them it too much but we have to remember they have options. We not only one contacting them. They might have regulars who already pay them their rate and tip. So it can be used against you to either blacklist you as cheap. Or they give you bad service and their excuse would be you pay my rate next time. Maybe you can negotiate down $10-50 no issue. But if they asking $400/short stay and you most you can/want is $150 for a ss you best off keeping quiet and finding someone closer to your price or get blocked/blacklisted.

On places like reddit/twitter/IG/FB there are escorts that talk about clients and the game. I will give a classic tweet that is relevant. There is a provider who thinks they should all collude and make 300 the minimum.

https://twitter.com/LucyKDenver/status/1228829871796678657

Then that's good for her if she can hook that one client. That's how it is. The girls set their prices based on who is willing to pay it. That's why for certain girls you can negotiate down to reasonable rates. Problem is you got girls doing a minimum rate and offering shit service which is what happens on Eros all the fucking time.

Average minimum there is 400-600 for a decent girl and every time I've caught one it's usually with a sub par performance or offering.

That's what's been happening in the Brooklyn SW side. Car dates are supposed to be comparable due to risk but when a girl is asking 80-100 for some action in your own damn car? That's bullshit because you can get more for your money elsewhere.

Also just because a girl prices herself at 600, it's not like there's plenty of dudes willing to shell that out.

It's fucking sad when I know a girl is a SW and trying to ask for 600/ hr when she's in the supermarket holding up the line because she doesn't have enough money to pay for whatever the fuck she was buying.

So it isn't that they don't have options, everyone has options but certain girls especially if you've gone and see her already and she's not up to par, she needs to be knocked down a few pegs with a reality check.

Just like the girl I was talking about, yeah probably some white dude with an Asian fetish will pay that 1200 rate or 900 rate but in reality she's not special that anyone else can offer.

You've also got girls who run double profiles one more expensive than the other. I forgot which girl did that or if it was talked about here.

And well if they're asking 400/ hr and you're doing a 120 ss then she's in the right already, you can't complain about discounted services to management.

[SpaspaHunter]

The math works out if it is 5 hrs / day at $600/ hr = $1,095,000. However, you are not taking into account days when she is having her period, so take out about 5 days per month. If you are going bare, take out an additional 7 days per month because she will be fertile and I doubt you want to get her pregnant. You are now down to 221 days per year. You would be paying her $600/ hr to have her for 8 hrs a day for 221 days out of the year. I doubt she will let you pound her for that many hours a day. You need to take into account sleep, eating, bathroom breaks, your time to do your job to pay for this, etc. Unless she is doing the cooking, cleaning, laundry, and other chores.

Well there's no period birth control if she's into that but I sort of am taking that into account since if you're into period sex that shouldn't stop you LOL even if ya can't fuck because she doesn't want to you can still do anal or the other sex acts or other escort things if you need to force your hand.

When you're doing a 6 hour date you aren't fucking the whole 6 hours and unless you on some pills or insanely high libido it's a challenge in itself to be fucking that much.

The girl's site says that it's unlimited overnight so it's to assume you there with her so that's already accounted for. Says it's 6 hours of sleep. So that leaves 6 hours for whatever else.

The overnight for her is 12 hours. So say that your overnight starts at 8 PM, that's 8 AM you got to bounce to get to work and you got until 8 PM to do it again.

So assuming that you're staying the night with her, everything else is kind of just filler. No one counts eating / bathroom breaks LOL so if she's cooking for you or whatever expense you want to tackle into that.

All facts considered, another expense is notable days. Unless the dude makes it a priority that it's strictly NSA so he doesn't need to put anything else in except his dick. One would assume the girl wants special occasions such as birthdays covered too.

Goes without saying if you want a lasting relationship even if it's transactional that's a solid given to do and if you've got the million to dump on her it's a drop in the bucket anyway.

I used to do long dates and the girls usually have a mandatory 'social' requirement which forces you to do an outside activity for 1 of the hours you paid for which bumps up the cost in the end anyway.

So if she's getting a guaranteed million fucking the one dude instead of putting in extra effort for finding others is a no brainer for her especially if she wants him to stay. That's one way to hook a whale. LOL.

[Tex Longhorn]

Na. If you check Eros you'll see plenty of girls over 700. I've seen indy girls as high as 1600. This girl named Ivy last name backwards gnirps to avoid search hits LOL she's 900/ hr now and she was one of the ones trying to get 1200++ back in the day and she hella basic looking imo.

There are girls who have tried stuff like this before in one form or another. I remember seeing someone who put a price tag on a NSA pregnancy with unlimited fucking etc.

That is actually a deal if you're fucking single and nsa and you have oneitus for her.

If you rich enough to bang her for 5 hours every day for a year it'll cost you 1,095,000 already. And you're getting 6 hours using her math. AND she's incall right? Shit you could stay with her 12 hours every day and subsidize that shit as your rent LOL.

So math wise it works out IF and only IF you value her at that rate.

You posted her here because she's confirmed BBFS at 7 or just as a price increase justification?

Can't really complain about price increase right now. The only thing you can do is when you see them is say the price is too high or stays like that, you likely won't / can't return. (Also don't tell them what other spots you hit up.).

The math works out if it is 5 hrs / day at $600/ hr = $1,095,000. However, you are not taking into account days when she is having her period, so take out about 5 days per month. If you are going bare, take out an additional 7 days per month because she will be fertile and I doubt you want to get her pregnant. You are now down to 221 days per year. You would be paying her $600/ hr to have her for 8 hrs a day for 221 days out of the year. I doubt she will let you pound her for that many hours a day. You need to take into account sleep, eating, bathroom breaks, your time to do your job to pay for this, etc. Unless she is doing the cooking, cleaning, laundry, and other chores.

[AbuSaho]

Na. If you check Eros you'll see plenty of girls over 700. I've seen indy girls as high as 1600. This girl named Ivy last name backwards gnirps to avoid search hits LOL she's 900/ hr now and she was one of the ones trying to get 1200++ back in the day and she hella basic looking imo.

There are girls who have tried stuff like this before in one form or another. I remember seeing someone who put a price tag on a NSA pregnancy with unlimited fucking etc.

That is actually a deal if you're fucking single and nsa and you have oneitus for her.

If you rich enough to bang her for 5 hours every day for a year it'll cost you 1,095,000 already. And you're getting 6 hours using her math. AND she's incall right? Shit you could stay with her 12 hours every day and subsidize that shit as your rent LOL.

So math wise it works out IF and only IF you value her at that rate.

You posted her here because she's confirmed BBFS at 7 or just as a price increase justification?

Can't really complain about price increase right now. The only thing you can do is when you see them is say the price is too high or stays like that, you likely won't / can't return. (Also don't tell them what other spots you hit up.).

The focus of highest price I saw wasn't on the $700 hour. It was the million for one year. My post was directed at those complaining about the price. There are women out there that charge way more. Obviously our side hope these women keep the price down but all it probably takes is one person a week at those higher rates rate to justify keeping the rate. And for someone like the million escort. All it takes is one person giving her the 400k/600k/1 million and she probably doesn't have to work again for at least a year. Even if we all on USASG NY section boycott the women with those high rates they can probably still find that one person a week to justify that rate.

I'd say while it is cliche in their eyes. If the rate is too high don't tell them or respond after. I understand some think it time to negotiate or like you said tell them it too much but we have to remember they have options. We not only one contacting them. They might have regulars who already pay them their rate and tip. So it can be used against you to either blacklist you as cheap. Or they give you bad service and their excuse would be you pay my rate next time. Maybe you can negotiate down $10-50 no issue. But if they asking $400/short stay and you most you can/want is $150 for a ss you best off keeping quiet and finding someone closer to your price or get blocked/blacklisted.

On places like reddit/twitter/IG/FB there are escorts that talk about clients and the game. I will give a classic tweet that is relevant. There is a provider who thinks they should all collude and make 300 the minimum.

https://twitter.com/LucyKDenver/status/1228829871796678657

[SpaspaHunter]

https://www.kate-ville.com/

https://twitter.com/kate_ville_

For the exclusive rights to date her for one year it costs 1 million dollars. 6 months 600 k. She offers the usual 1 hour session for 700. But that is the highest price I have seen from an escort in all my years in the game.

So when talking about prices being raised I guess it depends on the woman. Some have rates for stuff higher than 300-400 Lears seems to have increased to

Na. If you check Eros you'll see plenty of girls over 700. I've seen indy girls as high as 1600. This girl named Ivy last name backwards gnirps to avoid search hits LOL she's 900/ hr now and she was one of the ones trying to get 1200++ back in the day and she hella basic looking imo.

There are girls who have tried stuff like this before in one form or another. I remember seeing someone who put a price tag on a NSA pregnancy with unlimited fucking etc.

That is actually a deal if you're fucking single and nsa and you have oneitus for her.

If you rich enough to bang her for 5 hours every day for a year it'll cost you 1,095,000 already. And you're getting 6 hours using her math. AND she's incall right? Shit you could stay with her 12 hours every day and subsidize that shit as your rent LOL.

So math wise it works out IF and only IF you value her at that rate.

You posted her here because she's confirmed BBFS at 7 or just as a price increase justification?

Can't really complain about price increase right now. The only thing you can do is when you see them is say the price is too high or stays like that, you likely won't / can't return. (Also don't tell them what other spots you hit up.).

[Firewall]

11 girls on schedule today and 7 of them are 400, that's more then 50%, I do not like this trend at all.

I totally agree!!

[Firewall]

He's posted about other girls before from Lears, whether he does or doesn't isn't the main issue, the main issue is he's not wrong.

Hey, I love Lears, and I know the johns dictate the women's asking power, so it is what it is. Lotta thirsty fellas out there and maybe trying to get some in before another lockdown from that jackass FatBlasio.

We got 13 on the schedule (not including the body rub only chick), we got Jasmine the one who got booted from her old agency who asked for 4 and I always heard she was way overpriced and is a thief as well. We got the two blondes asking for 4 because they're no doubt in high demand that one chick even took off yesterday, another new to Lears chick who is asking for 4 starting, and now Trinity who I always wanted to see and don't remember ever being 4 is now 4 starting. So that's 5/13 now at $400. Or 38%.

While the majority are at $300, it's only a matter of time or depending on the schedule what the percentage will be.

I mean, good for them for making that money and still being busy, but if you all don't want to see a rate hike on all the chicks or a rate hike in general, slow your roll.

What did NY get another stimulus check I don't know about!.

Well said HeroesBlend! I've seen Trinity at Lear. She moved to MBV for a short while and now back to Lear. 300 is her speed. Not much out there IMO worth 400. That is my spoiled opinion. There is outstandingly gorgeous young women on many sites with FULL anything goes girls that are asking 300. I've also been very lucky. If anyone on this forum has real experience. Chemistry is very important. In other words. I never paid for BBFS. It is all natural flow and attraction.

[Firewall]

What are you talking about? Most of the girls listed are 300. I'm guessing you don't have access to Lears.

You are hilarious!! "Don't have access" LOL. BTW British Betty and Trinity is back.

[BigPoppa516]

She was not when I saw her.

Tatiana popped up at Lears. Same Tatiana at Pearls? She was BBFS friendly, right?

[OkTotti]

Tatiana popped up at Lears. Same Tatiana at Pearls? She was BBFS friendly, right?