Rants and Raves

**HobbyMan51** · 10-17-20 00:08

Originally Posted by SgtSoros [View Original Post]

Listen dumbass, I don't argue with fools; I try to educate. Please wear your damn mask to keep other people safe!

No, you don't argue with fools, George. You argue with people who have way more common sense and way less of an agenda than you do. You are a Trump hater and a hater of America. That is all anyone needs to know about you. I wear a mask when required to keep others safe alright, as in safe from my right fist upside their head if they attack me in a store for not wearing a mask. That way I keep them safe and me out of jail. That's a two for one, George. A win-win for everybody. Other than that, the goddam things are not effective and are only used as a means by the left to control and manipulate us, something traitors like you are just fine with.

**HobbyMan51** · 10-17-20 00:00

Originally Posted by Bullett64 [View Original Post]

Do you have an actual citation for this statement?

It wasn't by any chance this CDC -.

"We are not defenseless against COVID-19," said CDC Director Dr. Robert are. Redfield. "Cloth face coverings are one of the most powerful weapons we have to slow and stop the spread of the virus particularly when used universally within a community setting. All Americans have a responsibility to protect themselves, their families, and their communities. ".

Redfield says one thing, his minions say another. The medical profession needs to keep the fear going to make money for the hospitals as they list just about all deaths as Covid while ignoring the real cause of death. You see, hospitals get an extra three thousand bucks if the death is Covid so they just say everything is Covid. The medical profession has been lying to us ever since this shit started and as usual money is behind it.

Its $13,000 and if they put them on a ventilator it goes up to $39,000.

"Hospital administrators might well want to see COVID-19 attached to a discharge summary or a death certificate. Why? Because if it's a straightforward, garden-variety pneumonia that a person is admitted to the hospital for – if they're Medicare – typically, the diagnosis-related group lump sum payment would be $5,000. But if it's COVID-19 pneumonia, then it's $13,000, and if that COVID-19 pneumonia patient ends up on a ventilator, it goes up to $39,000."

And yes, it was fact checked by Snopes

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**Admin2** · 10-16-20 23:15

Originally Posted by Bullett64 [View Original Post]

Herd immunity is a great thing -- as long as you are one of the lucky ones who is still in the remains of the herd once is has become established.

Will you guys never stop pretending that this thing kills a lot of people. One of the lucky ones 99.74% overall survival rate. That has been known for over six months and still team lockdown treats it like ebola.

I know a lot of fucking people, I mean a lot of fucking people and the majority of them are in their 50 or more and I don't know one single person who has died from this. I know some of you do but the 200,000? Explain this, if it's such a killer then why are the same number of people dying of all causes as the last three years. If it's such a killer then where are the extra bodies because as well all know 96% of the 200,000 had 2 or more co morbidities.

When I say where are the extra bodies I mean total deaths of all causes because you can't hide anything in that number. Total dead in 2017,2018, 2019 was around 2,800,000 divided by 365 is 7671 people per day that died of all causes.

As of today in 2020 2,226,473 https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm people have died of all causes, divided by 290 (today is the 290th day of the year is 7677 or an average of 6 more which is about 2200 more people or 1% of the 200,000 covid deaths.

Yeah I know, I'm not an epidemiologist, I know that you have to be one to operate a calculator and ask, if this thing is so bad then why have only a few thousand extra people died?

Though here's a number for you and I can't seem to get over it, 9,000,000 extra people are going to starve to death next year so that you guys could have an election year issue. Maybe you can go tell them how lucky they are that you saved them from covid.

**Sgt Soros** · 10-16-20 20:35

Originally Posted by TheDarqRyder [View Original Post]

This one. Signed by doctors and researchers who are really smarter than Fauci purports to be. And believe me, this is what is working in Sweden. Aren't we smarter and more resourceful than Sweden? Ok, more resourceful. But we need to go this route and get this thing finished. Unless you are ready for the next chapter in 1984, including more control by the Ministry of Truth.

https://gbdeclaration.org/

A medical report signed off with FAKE names. I wonder if any of our favorite Atlanta message therapists got to sign this report.😀

Sky News found last week that dozens of fake names had signed the document, including Dr. I.P. Freely, Dr. Person Fakename and Dr. Johnny Bananas.

Another signatory called himself Dr. Harold Shipman, a general practitioner in the United Kingdom. In 1998, a man named Harold Shipman was arrested after killing more than 200 of his patients.*

The declaration was also signed by at least 18 self-declared homeopaths who signed as medical practitioners and 100 therapists, including massage therapists, hypnotherapists and psychotherapists.*

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...etter-12099947

**Niteluvr** · 10-16-20 20:30

Originally Posted by Bullett64 [View Original Post]

Herd immunity is a great thing -- as long as you are one of the lucky ones who is still in the remains of the herd once is has become established.

We are smarter than that. The human species has evolved enough to realize that we can delay this disease long enough to develop a vaccine rather than sacrifice God-only-knows how many lives waiting for herd immunity to take effect.

Well, some of the human species.

Agree with you. When someone here mentioned the herd immunity topic, I'm assuming they also knew that a solid vaccine should be in place first before this country implements any flavor of a "Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead" strategy / policy. As a cautious optimistic, I always hope that people consider "balance" in everything they plan and do; however, your last sentence probably states the current mentality more accurately.

Before anyone mentions that the political parties are to blame, the CDC still spews generalised guidelines regarding Covid. Really? They need to do better.

**Niteluvr** · 10-16-20 17:09

Originally Posted by TheDarqRyder [View Original Post]

In Missouri, the couple who came out in front of their own house to defend their property, after calling 911 and not getting a response, were indicted by a fixed grand jury by a Soros picked the for charges of brandishing their weapons to present a show of force.

This, despite the fact that Missouri has a Castle doctrine and everyone on that street chanting threats were a criminal trespasser on a private street. BTW, that same the had her prosecutors fix the wife's disabled pistol, so they could file charges. Under Missouri law, a non-working weapon is a prop and not a weapon.

And to let you know what is really coming, the same the dropped all misdemeanor trespass charges against the people who broke down the gate and violated that local ordinance. I like to play out there, but I'm still voting for Trump because I can't trust a Democratic prosecutor. Every damn one of them, are in it for the power and prestige. They don't care about you and will let the hounds on you, and then throw you in the can for protecting yourself.

I agree, it's sickening what happened to a couple simply trying to defend their home, as they could've become victims in a nanosecond.

**Niteluvr** · 10-16-20 14:58

Originally Posted by AaronHamlet [View Original Post]

I live in the city where there is a mask mandate in place. Every store I go in has signs requiring masks. There is 99.9% compliance.

https://rationalground.com/mask-charts/

Stores are one thing, but have you seen outdoor venues, such as public beaches and private outdoor parties? Masks are all but non-existent.

**Aaron Hamlet** · 10-16-20 13:48

I live in the city where there is a mask mandate in place. Every store I go in has signs requiring masks. There is 99.9% compliance.

https://rationalground.com/mask-charts/

**JMAbacus** · 10-16-20 13:47

Originally Posted by Niteluvr [View Original Post]

Can't agree with you that the police have been 'militarised' in any way due to Trump being elected, and certainly not in the eyes of any true Republican. Bad cops haven't been on the increase since Trump was elected; they were always there.

And now we have the pro-Democrat looters and arsonists. I personally don't care if you or someone is Democrat or Republican, but I would stand and fight for you if someone is trying to loot or burn your business down. How many of those pro-Democrat idiots would do that for a complete stranger? Very few, if any.

I'm surprised you said that you would vote for Trump, yet most of your post seems to be pro-Democrat.

I don't blame Trump at all for the Militarization of our police force. That's been a gradual thing thing ever since the war on drugs was formalized in 1980. The biggest single contributor to the mess were all the laws regarding mandatory minimums and three strikes pushed through by Bill Clinton that ballooned our prison population to record levels (he now says this was a huge mistake on his part). I'm not sympathetic in any way to to the violent protests or looting. And yes, the discrimination pendulum has swung so far to the left that it's a joke. I've traveled Europe and South America a bit and the level of racial and religious discrimination is sometimes shocking to me. Folks don't realize that there is much less discrimination in the US (much room for improvement of course) compared to the rest of the world but most only see the sensationalized CNN type coverage. Yes, I agree with more of the Republican platform because I think it will benefit the country from an economic perspective. I have not heard an economic platform from the Dems that makes any sense. My only point was that the drug laws and prison policies need an overhaul. Ms. Harris said weed would be legalized immediately, and those in jail for weed would be released. I think that would be one benefit of a Democratic win, to chip away at the laws attempting to legislate morality.

**Bullett64** · 10-16-20 13:35

Herd immunity is a great thing -- as long as you are one of the lucky ones who is still in the remains of the herd once is has become established.

We are smarter than that. The human species has evolved enough to realize that we can delay this disease long enough to develop a vaccine rather than sacrifice God-only-knows how many lives waiting for herd immunity to take effect.

Well, some of the human species.

**The Darq Ryder** · 10-16-20 13:20

Originally Posted by Worf359 [View Original Post]

Any intelligent response?

This one. Signed by doctors and researchers who are really smarter than Fauci purports to be. And believe me, this is what is working in Sweden. Aren't we smarter and more resourceful than Sweden? Ok, more resourceful. But we need to go this route and get this thing finished. Unless you are ready for the next chapter in 1984, including more control by the Ministry of Truth.

https://gbdeclaration.org/

**The Darq Ryder** · 10-16-20 13:15

Originally Posted by Niteluvr [View Original Post]

Well said, but I'm hoping that prison reform and civil discussions about police wrongdoing will be the result of a Republican victory. Everyone deserves their fair day in court and the worst that can happen is someone going to prison for a crime they didn't commit. I've been a victim of that, "Oh, shit, I made a mistake," LE bullshit more than once. If minorities think they're the only ones who have been victims of wrongdoing in life, I suggest they leave this country, find a better place to live and fuck off. They're prejudiced and delusional on a grand scale.

Trump is not the bad guy on this issue, as much as his non-believers would like to suggest. The media is and should be held accountable. They love to exacerbate any issue that is anti-Trump and bolsters their ratings. Is anyone fooled with that?

Can't agree with you that the police have been 'militarised' in any way due to Trump being elected, and certainly not in the eyes of any true Republican. Bad cops haven't been on the increase since Trump was elected; they were always there.

And now we have the pro-Democrat looters and arsonists. I personally don't care if you or someone is Democrat or Republican, but I would stand and fight for you if someone is trying to loot or burn your business down. How many of those pro-Democrat idiots would do that for a complete stranger? Very few, if any.

I'm surprised you said that you would vote for Trump, yet most of your post seems to be pro-Democrat.

In Missouri, the couple who came out in front of their own house to defend their property, after calling 911 and not getting a response, were indicted by a fixed grand jury by a Soros picked the for charges of brandishing their weapons to present a show of force.

This, despite the fact that Missouri has a Castle doctrine and everyone on that street chanting threats were a criminal trespasser on a private street. BTW, that same the had her prosecutors fix the wife's disabled pistol, so they could file charges. Under Missouri law, a non-working weapon is a prop and not a weapon.

And to let you know what is really coming, the same the dropped all misdemeanor trespass charges against the people who broke down the gate and violated that local ordinance. I like to play out there, but I'm still voting for Trump because I can't trust a Democratic prosecutor. Every damn one of them, are in it for the power and prestige. They don't care about you and will let the hounds on you, and then throw you in the can for protecting yourself.