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  1. #18799

    More on extras

    The background:

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesD2004  [View Original Post]
    You don't miss out much. But you made some mistakes. Now if I want to collect unwashed panties, I need a warehouse. Either I have to hide it or I have to hire security so nobody else other than me can get in. Only CIP and CIM give you more pleasure than HE. Anything else is phycological rather than physical.

    To make you feel better, tell Sara who your friend is and show her the pictures. I bet she wouldn't refuse if you ask politely and one at time. I also bet you won't enjoy cum on tits and smear her face every time; harder to clean up for your friend Sara. And you may have to tip more. Soon you will settle back to your old routine.

    Sex workers are in it for the money. You 1st mistake is not to see how far they would go. But it is also true that they are what you want them to be. I had providers who behave like a respectable angel, offering HE or not. It's because I may actually ask her out on a real date, or else our social circle might overlap some day. But if you looked a homeless person, you could just grab her ass and molest away without her protesting, as long as you give a decent tip. You can treat her like a hooker or like a friend, no matter how others did to her.

    Your 0th mistake is recommending your true ATF to your friend, or anybody else. Comparing any two people is a death match. There's no end until death. See that you are comparing yourself to your friend. It will only give you grief. Did you see me ever recommending my current ATF's?

    As for getting extra services, often it doesn't make you special. Probably they are offering their extras to anybody who spent enough on them. You are a bit special if you get a free date. But you may just as well be successful in dating a non-sex worker. You may get an attractive HJ girl in bed. But probably you have to pay more than an escort. Now, even if you are lucky enough to be the only one who they bring home, you are just too nice to do any damage and always practice safe sex.
    I got more questions:

    What if a provider did more extras with a first timer than with a long time loyal customer who tips more? Extras that she doesnt do with the long time regular and extras that provider swears she doesnt do with anyone else? The provider always said that she doesnt DFK (because shes a germaphobe) and refuses to do it with regular whos a big tipper but one day does DFK with a newbie who tipped far less. How is that explained?

    I did want to add that it turns out that this "newbie" was new to her but far from being new to the game. That newbie engages in BB activities and eats ass at places like F&C but loves to make out with providers. If anyone were to have anything it would be this newbie. What seems interesting is that the provider always seems to frown upon kissing customers and always speaks out against it but yet ended up doing what she so passionately criticizes.
    That's too easy to explain, and plenty of explanations. But first, it's a deathmatch if you compare yourself with another live person. There's no end and it won't end well.

    You probably don't know the whole truth. They can swear but it only counts if you witness it.

    The chances that real newbies already have herpes and anything else are lower than the experienced.

    Once I have a hot job and I looked the part so I don't even need to tell them. They always guess it right the 1st time. Medical coverage is the same as the CEO and I don't need to tell them. And hot people always have a wife already who cannot afford to lose half of everything. So I don't need to tell them I'm always careful, practice safe sex and checkup regularly. That made me an ideal client. I had an ATF who is actively gold digging so she couldn't afford to get nasty things; that would be the end of her way out. You cannot get married to a rich guy if you are carrying something that couldn't get rid of.

    Most providers are looking for signs of dental coverage. Then you are likely to have others. I have all natural teeth and never bother to whiten them. I'm not born here so I get a pass.

    As for DFK, some clients are more handsome than the others, LOL. Or just personality. YMMV.

    The most important thing is personal hygiene. For DFK, one is smoking; it's hard to pretend to be passionate if you are being tortured. The other is bad breath. One main reason hookers refuse to kiss. You don't know you have it if you don't try to find out. There are simple self-tests but not reliable. Even if you do all the brushing, flossing, scrapping several times a day, you could still have hidden throat stones that are the worst offenders.

    The average provider is quite dumb so we should not be surprised. This "newbie" pretends to be something he's not so I doubt if he's really enjoying himself. Everyone has a price so if you can't get the provider to do what you want for your offer, move on. There's always better pussies and lips elsewhere.

  2. #18798

    Sara

    No need to feel bad. It sounds like Sara was comfortable with what you seemed to be happy with in regards to "service". It's up to you to set the parameters of what you expect in during your "session", as long as it's done respectfully of course. I would talk to her about it if you chose to go back to her and just give her hints as to what you would like. What I wouldn't do is go full on Incredible Hulk during your next session, where you are a totally different person acting completely different as to the guy she's familiar with. Sounds like you to have a great "working" relationship. Just let her know what next steps you want to take going forward. The worst she can do is decline, then you move on.

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesD2004  [View Original Post]
    You don't miss out much. But you made some mistakes. Now if I want to collect unwashed panties, I need a warehouse. Either I have to hide it or I have to hire security so nobody else other than me can get in. Only CIP and CIM give you more pleasure than HE. Anything else is phycological rather than physical.

    To make you feel better, tell Sara who your friend is and show her the pictures. I bet she wouldn't refuse if you ask politely and one at time. I also bet you won't enjoy cum on tits and smear her face every time; harder to clean up for your friend Sara. And you may have to tip more. Soon you will settle back to your old routine.

    Sex workers are in it for the money. You 1st mistake is not to see how far they would go. But it is also true that they are what you want them to be. I had providers who behave like a respectable angel, offering HE or not. It's because I may actually ask her out on a real date, or else our social circle might overlap some day. But if you looked a homeless person, you could just grab her ass and molest away without her protesting, as long as you give a decent tip. You can treat her like a hooker or like a friend, no matter how others did to her.

    Your 0th mistake is recommending your true ATF to your friend, or anybody else. Comparing any two people is a death match. There's no end until death. See that you are comparing yourself to your friend. It will only give you grief. Did you see me ever recommending my current ATF's?

    As for getting extra services, often it doesn't make you special. Probably they are offering their extras to anybody who spent enough on them. You are a bit special if you get a free date. But you may just as well be successful in dating a non-sex worker. You may get an attractive HJ girl in bed. But probably you have to pay more than an escort. Now, even if you are lucky enough to be the only one who they bring home, you are just too nice to do any damage and always practice safe sex.

  3. #18797

    VT Massage

    Just curious if anyone had intel on VT Massage across the street from F&C. I've always been curious, but never pulled the trigger due to always being sucked into F&C's siren song.

  4. #18796
    Quote Originally Posted by OcLookin16  [View Original Post]
    Where is this place at? Need some latina girls in my life.
    LOL Love the Hamilton comparison! Looking forward to my first experience with Krystal (or maybe Novia) very soon!

  5. #18795

    Krystal Q.

    First off a big thank you for all that have contributed to this forum. There's a wealth of information, and for people like me that are complete beginners in the AMP scene, it's invaluable.

    Now for the question. I will finally have time to make out out to the OC for my first massage and I am super excited about it. After reading up on all the reviews I landed on Krystal as the perfect first experience. I've gotten all the information I've needed to make an appointment (IG handle, general location, cost, services available), but what I haven't been able to find a straight answer on is how hands on I am allowed to be dong "nuru" - is there free roaming on her boobs and ass? Kissing on her body / sucking on boobs? A found a few reviews with conflicting information, which I'm guessing might just mean YMMV, but I wanted to ask the group here. If the answer is no on all counts, I may choose another of the faves from this forum for my first experience.

    Thanks again! Looking forward to paying it forward in the near future!

  6. #18794

    Low IQ

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  7. #18793
    Fellas, I'll be in LA soon and posted on the LA forum, but I'll ask here as well since I'll be a down further south as well.

    Long story short, anyone know a place that provides anything close to CMT level massage? Wouldn't mind a standard finish at the end, but not required. Travel just really aggravates my already stiff back and neck. Thanks in advance.

  8. #18792
    Quote Originally Posted by Samurai316  [View Original Post]
    Man. This place is great. Actually got nuru for the first time. Not all provide nuru & YMMV.
    Just saw Tina. Late 20's or early mid 30's 4 10 viet with ok medium medium light massage with a very very round butt. Saw a Jenny? Door 5 that looked good will try.

  9. #18791

    Vy

    Man. This place is great. Actually got nuru for the first time. Not all provide nuru & YMMV.

  10. #18790
    Quote Originally Posted by TwoMinuteMan  [View Original Post]
    I apologize in advance for the length of this post and sincerely wish it wasn't true because it makes me look like I have no game. I have an ATF provider, Sara, who I have seen regularly for the last two years. I have seen her at three different locations and while our sessions are relaxed, fun and flirty there has been zero indication of extras available (other than the HJ I always receive). I tip her well and am a gentleman around her. So, I tell my friend about her and he decides to pay her a visit. He is a total player, super aggressive with women and enjoys humiliating them which is not my thing at all. His first visit he told me he got her up on the table between his legs (something she has never done for me) and she squeezed his nuts as she jerked him off. He told her to take her top off because he wanted to come on her tits. She hesitated and when he smiled and said "be a good girl and lose your top" she stripped them off with a shy smile.
    You don't miss out much. But you made some mistakes. Now if I want to collect unwashed panties, I need a warehouse. Either I have to hide it or I have to hire security so nobody else other than me can get in. Only CIP and CIM give you more pleasure than HE. Anything else is phycological rather than physical.

    To make you feel better, tell Sara who your friend is and show her the pictures. I bet she wouldn't refuse if you ask politely and one at time. I also bet you won't enjoy cum on tits and smear her face every time; harder to clean up for your friend Sara. And you may have to tip more. Soon you will settle back to your old routine.

    Sex workers are in it for the money. You 1st mistake is not to see how far they would go. But it is also true that they are what you want them to be. I had providers who behave like a respectable angel, offering HE or not. It's because I may actually ask her out on a real date, or else our social circle might overlap some day. But if you looked a homeless person, you could just grab her ass and molest away without her protesting, as long as you give a decent tip. You can treat her like a hooker or like a friend, no matter how others did to her.

    Your 0th mistake is recommending your true ATF to your friend, or anybody else. Comparing any two people is a death match. There's no end until death. See that you are comparing yourself to your friend. It will only give you grief. Did you see me ever recommending my current ATF's?

    As for getting extra services, often it doesn't make you special. Probably they are offering their extras to anybody who spent enough on them. You are a bit special if you get a free date. But you may just as well be successful in dating a non-sex worker. You may get an attractive HJ girl in bed. But probably you have to pay more than an escort. Now, even if you are lucky enough to be the only one who they bring home, you are just too nice to do any damage and always practice safe sex.

  11. #18789

    Bio

    Quote Originally Posted by FotherMucker  [View Original Post]
    Greatly appreciate SD! That's Bio Therapy in Lake Forest?
    Correct, on Aspan.

  12. #18788
    Greatly appreciate SD! That's Bio Therapy in Lake Forest?

    Quote Originally Posted by SkinnyDugan  [View Original Post]
    Kate and Meyu at Bio are the only 2 that I know. Both good choices.

  13. #18787

    Japenese

    Quote Originally Posted by FotherMucker  [View Original Post]
    Can anyone provide leads on Japanese AMPs? Long time lurker now looking forward to contribute.
    Kate and Meyu at Bio are the only 2 that I know. Both good choices.

  14. #18786

    Welcome

    Quote Originally Posted by FotherMucker  [View Original Post]
    Can anyone provide leads on Japanese AMPs? Long time lurker now looking forward to contribute.
    That's great. I'm looking forward to reading what you post. I'm sorry, I don't have any leads. I don't monger much, and contribute next to nothing. I mostly come to this site to troll people but best of luck to you.

  15. #18785

    Any Jap AMPs

    Can anyone provide leads on Japanese AMPs? Long time lurker now looking forward to contribute.

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