"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**JustLonely** · 05-06-19 12:03

So I have been texting a college freshmen for over a month now without meeting face to face. She says she hasn't met anyone from Seeking yet and indeed her online status shows she hasn't logged in within the last 3 weeks. As one would expect she was a bit over whelmed from the number of and the content of some of the messages she got. Her story is pretty much the same as many. Bored with the immature guys her age and out of money with no summer job lined up yet. Seems as I have made the final cut of men she is still chatting with from her contacts on Seeking.

This morning she asked me the same question she asked a month ago. Why was I contacting 18 year olds and not older women? My age shows as 57 on SA. I pretty much repeated what I said when I first messaged her that I found women who have been on SA a long time to be just looking for the guy with deepest pocket and not so much interested in a connection. I added this time that since we have been chatting back and forth several times weekly that we had found some common interests that spans our age difference. The fact that were are still chatting and neither of us has moved on says that we should make that last step and meet up once school is out next week. She agreed and said she was ready for a summer of fun with me. No mention of money in any of our previous messages and I made it clear back when we were messaging through SA that I expected intimacy in an arrangement. So I really expected her to not ever meet and be just another who just liked to talk.

I am curious what you guys that regularly have success with the young ones are doing to seal the deal with them. At least with this one, I think I was the Last Man Standing or was the one who didn't push the issue and let her seek me in the end.

**GolfMan57** · 05-06-19 09:20

This one scammed a friend of mine recently. Did a cash and dash.

Buyer beware.

She is in Fredericksburg.

**FarFarAway** · 05-04-19 09:49

Originally Posted by Assaholic [View Original Post]

FFA, only one way to find out. Call yourself and see what shows up on the caller I'd. My guess is it will be your GV#.

Weird. So I did it on a work computer. I entered the hard # that is on my burner in GV. Rather than messaging me that it would call my number, the page asked to open the microphone on the computer. I clicked yes and it starts to dial. The caller I'd on the burner shows the GV #. So, that would have been what I wanted if I didn't have my burner with me.

**DogBert77** · 05-02-19 22:43

Originally Posted by FarFarAway [View Original Post]

I am using the Epic browser specifically, it has a free, built-in VPN. You can select where the exit node is among half a dozen options. B / c it should be the same each time, it looks to google as if you are in the same place you were last time, so you shouldn't need to be authenticated again. At least, that's the theory.

Originally Posted by TomDickNHarry [View Original Post]

I use textnow. It has its issues but can be done on desktop and on the burner, and in a mobile web browser which is important to me since I often do not have the burner with me. You can also make free calls on it using the burner from the app.

Thanks for the tips guys, will definitely look into these. Probably try the Epic browser accessed through my VPN (TunnelBear). Can't have too much online security.

**Truncated** · 05-02-19 16:33

Originally Posted by DogBert77 [View Original Post]

I don't know the answer to FarFarAway's question, but it prompted one of my own. I use Gmail and Google Voice to contact the SB's. Google Voice is tied to my burner number. So I give the girls my GV number to text me, nad usually read the texts on my computer, not on my burner. GV has not connection to me, burner was bought with cash, prepaid TracFone that I pay with debit cards I bought for cash. I use a VPN to log onto Gmail and Google Voice.

Lately, almost every time I try to log into Gmail, it tells me that it doesn't recognize the device I am using, and wants to authenticate me with a text to the number on file, which is my burner number (note, I did NOT opt into two factor authentication as a regular thing). Sometimes Gmail gives me the option to authenticate by another method, like confirming the email I used to register or the phone number on my burner. But usually, the only option is to get a text with a security code. No doubt the reason Gmail doesn't recognize me is that the VPN is using a different IP address every time. Funny thing is, this never bothered Gmail until recently.

Using a text to authenticate is a pain in the ass for me. When I am at home, my burner is normally stashed in a very very safe place, and I don't want to have to dig it up a few times a day to check texts.

Anyone else have this problem? Any suggestions?

If you are in the same location with your burner as your WiFi router or regular cell phone, Google totally has you connected with all other devices and / or logins.

It's not 2005. There is no hiding from Google at this point.

**TomDickNHarry** · 05-02-19 10:19

I use textnow. It has its issues but can be done on desktop and on the burner, and in a mobile web browser which is important to me since I often do not have the burner with me. You can also make free calls on it using the burner from the app.

Originally Posted by Assaholic [View Original Post]

Dogbert, any time Google gets suspicious of your identity, it will ask you to confirm it's you, either by text or a secondary email. Logging in from anther IP that it has never seen you on before, probably in another country, will most likely trigger it. It's been like that for years and it's normal. You're probably just now seeing it because your VPN provider has probably procured some new IPs in new localities.

FFA, only one way to find out. Call yourself and see what shows up on the caller I'd. My guess is it will be your GV#.

**Assaholic** · 05-02-19 03:13

Dogbert, any time Google gets suspicious of your identity, it will ask you to confirm it's you, either by text or a secondary email. Logging in from anther IP that it has never seen you on before, probably in another country, will most likely trigger it. It's been like that for years and it's normal. You're probably just now seeing it because your VPN provider has probably procured some new IPs in new localities.

FFA, only one way to find out. Call yourself and see what shows up on the caller I'd. My guess is it will be your GV#.

**FarFarAway** · 05-02-19 00:51

Originally Posted by DogBert77 [View Original Post]

I don't know the answer to FarFarAway's question, but it prompted one of my own. I use Gmail and Google Voice to contact the SB's. Google Voice is tied to my burner number. So I give the girls my GV number to text me, nad usually read the texts on my computer, not on my burner. GV has not connection to me, burner was bought with cash, prepaid TracFone that I pay with debit cards I bought for cash. I use a VPN to log onto Gmail and Google Voice.

Lately, almost every time I try to log into Gmail, it tells me that it doesn't recognize the device I am using, and wants to authenticate me with a text to the number on file, which is my burner number (note, I did NOT opt into two factor authentication as a regular thing). Sometimes Gmail gives me the option to authenticate by another method, like confirming the email I used to register or the phone number on my burner. But usually, the only option is to get a text with a security code. No doubt the reason Gmail doesn't recognize me is that the VPN is using a different IP address every time. Funny thing is, this never bothered Gmail until recently.

Using a text to authenticate is a pain in the ass for me. When I am at home, my burner is normally stashed in a very very safe place, and I don't want to have to dig it up a few times a day to check texts.

Anyone else have this problem? Any suggestions?

I get you. I have had similar problems just in the past week, it asks me to do a Captcha about every other time I log in. One key is the browser / VPN you use. I definitely never use Tor to get onto the GV webpage. It sees a different IP address and makes you authenticate all over again, as you describe. I am using the Epic browser specifically, it has a free, built-in VPN. You can select where the exit node is among half a dozen options. B / c it should be the same each time, it looks to google as if you are in the same place you were last time, so you shouldn't need to be authenticated again. At least, that's the theory.

**DogBert77** · 05-01-19 18:17

I don't know the answer to FarFarAway's question, but it prompted one of my own. I use Gmail and Google Voice to contact the SB's. Google Voice is tied to my burner number. So I give the girls my GV number to text me, nad usually read the texts on my computer, not on my burner. GV has not connection to me, burner was bought with cash, prepaid TracFone that I pay with debit cards I bought for cash. I use a VPN to log onto Gmail and Google Voice.

Lately, almost every time I try to log into Gmail, it tells me that it doesn't recognize the device I am using, and wants to authenticate me with a text to the number on file, which is my burner number (note, I did NOT opt into two factor authentication as a regular thing). Sometimes Gmail gives me the option to authenticate by another method, like confirming the email I used to register or the phone number on my burner. But usually, the only option is to get a text with a security code. No doubt the reason Gmail doesn't recognize me is that the VPN is using a different IP address every time. Funny thing is, this never bothered Gmail until recently.

Using a text to authenticate is a pain in the ass for me. When I am at home, my burner is normally stashed in a very very safe place, and I don't want to have to dig it up a few times a day to check texts.

Anyone else have this problem? Any suggestions?

**FarFarAway** · 05-01-19 12:46

I am asking for advice / experience among Google Voice users. I frequently access my texts from the webpage voice. google.com. It has 3 tabs, messages, calls, and voicemails. When you go to calls, you can see all of those you made or received. If you click one of those, you receive a message that it will try to call that # and to provide a # where it can connect you. My question is, do you think this is blinded from the other caller? In other words, I am sitting at home or in my office, could I use this to have a call w / a SB from my landline but have it appear to her as if it is coming from my GV #?

**Truncated** · 05-01-19 09:40

Originally Posted by PeteMc [View Original Post]

I'm posting to Richmond because of the relatively high activity of this thread even though it's not a regional topic. In various city threads, I've seen reviews of girls I've had for the 150-250 range being reviewed at the 300-400 mark (or at least that was their ask). You don't have to pay these amounts, and you shouldn't unless it is an overnight or weekend stay, or there is some other special circumstance.

I suspect the over-paying might be happening because we get impatient when we think with our secondary heads. The way to win at sugaring is to play the long game and use timing to your advantage. It's not an auction and it's not like buying a home. With a house, you stand the risk of losing the opportunity to own the house if someone bids slightly higher. This is not the case with girls. I low ball offer girls all the time and I'm surprised at how many say yes initially. More often, they suddenly go silent with the low ball offer. I let it simmer, then later they contact me later with acceptance. Patience pays off! They don't always reach out again, but once a large enough network is built, it doesn't matter that some get away. Sometimes girls who wanted 800 text me 2-3 weeks later with a change of heart once reality set in. Meanwhile there is always some poor chump out there somewhere who probably paid 500 and thought he got a deal. Don't be the chump!

200 is a fortune to some of these girls. After taxes, they would need to work 20+ hours at a retail or service job to earn that much. An hour (or less) of random dick is much preferred for many of them.

YouTube and Reddit postings are what makes these girls think they should be getting 500. We shouldn't feed that delusion. For 500, you could get a model in Miami.

**PeteMc** · 05-01-19 07:26

I'm posting to Richmond because of the relatively high activity of this thread even though it's not a regional topic. In various city threads, I've seen reviews of girls I've had for the 150-250 range being reviewed at the 300-400 mark (or at least that was their ask). You don't have to pay these amounts, and you shouldn't unless it is an overnight or weekend stay, or there is some other special circumstance.

I suspect the over-paying might be happening because we get impatient when we think with our secondary heads. The way to win at sugaring is to play the long game and use timing to your advantage. It's not an auction and it's not like buying a home. With a house, you stand the risk of losing the opportunity to own the house if someone bids slightly higher. This is not the case with girls. I low ball offer girls all the time and I'm surprised at how many say yes initially. More often, they suddenly go silent with the low ball offer. I let it simmer, then later they contact me later with acceptance. Patience pays off! They don't always reach out again, but once a large enough network is built, it doesn't matter that some get away. Sometimes girls who wanted 800 text me 2-3 weeks later with a change of heart once reality set in. Meanwhile there is always some poor chump out there somewhere who probably paid 500 and thought he got a deal. Don't be the chump!

**HawkJock** · 04-30-19 10:09

Gents. ,

I will be in your town this week and will have an entire day off to explore. Will try to dabble in the sugar bowl (entire day date with adventures, exploring, dinners, food, etc.) but if that falls thru, do you recommend a massage parlor? Looking for a legit 60-90 minute massage with an unrushed HE. Or if I do find a SB, a massage parlor that will do a couple's massage, erotic style? Think 60-90 minute, one provider that does massage on both, while me and SB massage one another's private parts. No erotic participation by provider, just massage and willing to be creative while me and SB work out the real kinks.

**RVASpider** · 04-29-19 22:48

Neither are new members and have been on the site for a while. I had great conversations with both by text, got pics that seemed to be real, and set up specific days to meet. The day of the meetings for both of them they go silent and I haven't heard from them since. Anyone else have similar experiences or actually get to meet them?

**EasyeOne** · 04-29-19 22:46

Originally Posted by WaterBoi [View Original Post]

There aren't that many in Richmond on the site. I'm sure we're all messaging the same ones. Let's share info.

Pic seller. Online / text only. https://www.seeking.com/member/d47b6...5-1e69fc9790a7.

Meet and greet only. Takes your cash and then ghosts you: https://www.seeking.com/member/4a4a6...f-c38b58f62005.

Not sure about this one. We were texting a bit and then she just blocked me. Didn't say anything graphic. Just chatting about art and game of thrones. https://www.seeking.com/member/de446...c-89c7595a8860.

Horrible mic skills and can't math. Just an overall poor experience. https://www.seeking.com/member/ab538...5-d28b40617c76.

Has anyone met up with this one? https://www.seeking.com/member/44537...8-e151df05254e.

Seems down for almost everything but haven't been able to meet.

Never met up with her since I did not agree to pay for a M&G, but she offered pics / videos. Her reddit profile is more honest, online only and you can buy her panties: https://i.redd.it/zbfgzgqab4s21.jpg or https://www.reddit.com/r/usedpanties...es_i_have_all/.