"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[Grafenberg]

Hello Team / Special Councel

If I was her lawyer I'd recommend that she have a restraining order on you.

[BStreet]

Try this https://www.seeking.com/member/52819...4-2d76d7547e7c.

That's your inbox.

[LoriTruck]

Hello Team / Special Councel, I got a situation but I'm not sure how to tackle it. I met a sugar plum early in the year. It took a couple of weeks before we connected but it was worth the wait. A get to know tongue pierced BBBJ in my car, total beans spent was roughly 80. Before the BJ, she asked if that made her a hoe. I lied and told her no. For reasons unknown, she went ghost and I didn't hear from her. Sent her a message on the site and learned she was having phone issues. We conversed again for a couple of weeks, our schedules never aligned then crickets again. Knowing where she lived, I baked a cake and took it to her, which opened the lines of communication again after she asked what my number was (really?) Talk about amnesia LOL.

She needed help with her phone one day so I advanced her 60 on V-day. 4 days later she purchases a car but had tire issues. She gives me the silent treatment for a few days so I stop by with some food since she didn't work and making ends meet was a struggle for her. We rekindle the conversation and I let her know I'm not looking to get into a relationship with you if that's why you keep ghosting. I'm just trying to help you out. I helped her get a tire on her car which didn't cost but 35 for a used one.

About a week later we are texting and she asked if I wanted to go to some space DJ show with her and her best friend. She even offered to ride with me. It was roughly an hour away so I agreed. Her best friend was meeting up with a guy friend at the show and if they hit things off, she was going to ride to wherever with the guy friend and the sugar plum was going to ride with me. Well we make the trip with the sugar plum in the passenger seat and her best friend in the back seat. I would occasionally give a back rub when she leaned forward causing her best friend to complain and say "I want some attention too. " The best friend also kept saying she wanted some D* I'm not sure what these girls smoked or what they had to drink when I picked them up but they were saying all the right words. Shoot, the sugar plum asked me if I was going to get wasted and added that she wanted me to so she can take advantage of me.

We get to where we were going, 30 for me to get in since she already had a ticket, enjoyed the show, got a few drinks, she wore some leggings and I wore some dri fit pants so she would occasionally twerk and grind on me to the music. After about 3 hours, it's late. Her best friend goes off with the guy and me and the sugar plum head to my house about an hour away. We chat and get to know each other. I find out that she is into girls. Dated one girl for a year and the best friend that rode in the back seat to the show was the 1st girl she ever got with. Halfway home, I reach into a secret compartment in my wallet, you know, that little zipper away from the cash. I pull out one of those blue smurf pills and bit off half that way by the time I get home, I'll be ready. She saw me take it and asked what I was taking. "Um nothing" LOL.

We get to my house and I Waffle housesd, Ihoped her. I made her scrambled eggs and bacon. We ate, we were both tired and I gave her 2 options. I took her to the guest bedroom and told her option one is you can sleep here. Took her to the master bedroom and told her option 2 is here. She asked where I was sleeping and I told her option 2. She chose wisely when she also said she wanted option 2. We start making out, turns into a nice BBBJ, she tells me she's on her period. Not knowing when I'll see this girl again I go with it. She likes it rough, wants to be choked, after 3 positions I shot my best shot. I checkout my little man and there was little to no blood so aunt flow had started packing to leave town. We sleep well passed noon. I make her some food even some to take to her best friend and took her to her best friend's appartment.

2 weeks later, she applied for a job, needed background check money so I gave her 30. Late one night she barely had gas money. I offered her help, said I would bring it by. She told me not to, she'll try to handle but I went anyway LOL. Big mistake on my part. I get there and she's in her car with some dude. I roll my window down to speak and she drives off. Ever caught your sugar baby cheating? Not a good feeling. Not saying they did the deed but obviously she was embarrassed. I sent her a text and she pretended as if she didn't know it was me. Oh well. After that night I don't hear much from her. She doesn't call me handsome or sexy any more LOL. Is it over? Do I have a shot of making things right? Here's the kicker, her best friend just joined the site a few days ago. Do I hit up the best friend? Could this turn into a mindblowing threesome or will they join forces, string me along and play me for a fool? Best friends talk and share more than they need to with each other.

The sad part is the sugar plum is still having car problems. The tire I had replaced on her car, I now notice a donut so looks like it went flat. The little paper tag on her car pretty much is expired, they are good for usually 45 days after the purchase of a vehicle. I offered to take her grocery shopping once and she was feeding a neighbors pig that day. I offered the next day and she claimed she had a job interview that day. A text asking how the interview went? Crickets. I stopped by her place and lo and behold, some guy is there with her. Not sure if he walked there or he doesn't have a vehicle and she picked him up and brought her to her place, which she shares with a parent, but I would not be surprised if that was the same guy I saw her with that night I wish I could have a re-do. I should've stayed home that night and just let her handle her business lol. She introduced me to the guy and said it was her friend. When I left she told me to text her but no response to my texts. Anyhow, the crowd she chooses to make a priority is not helping her financially. Plate is about to expire and I doubt she even has car insurance.

[EvilTmp]

Met a pot recently for a drink just to see the chemistry. She only had two pics that were not particularly telling. Not close range and also cutting half her body (you know where this is going). She was ok in person but nothing to get me excited and not really feeling it. When I asked her she'd met anyone off the site she proceeds to tell me she met one guy for lunch (she's new on SA). She insists they did nothing and afterwards the guy went on to tell her he doesn't feel comfortable with the whole idea of a SB and needs to work on his relationship with his wife, blah blah found my morale compass blah blah. I didn't have the heart to tell her that the poor guy is probably deep in some other young girl right now, he's just not into you.

Anyone here likes to go out of their way to burst a girl's bubble? Me, I just nod and act like I'm a clueless idiot while laughing deep down.

[YayaGogo]

I just book a room online with whatever method works and use a separate CC used exclusively for my hobby (hotels, restaurants, shopping, etc) that my SO doesn't know about. Online billing only of course so no statements mailed to the house. While checking in I always arrive a bit early with a briefcase, computer bag etc so nobody gives me a second look.

Good luck and let us know how it goes!

Yaya.

That's a good point.

So since making my first outcall, I was wondering if.

Using Hotwire is okay since I need to provide name and address as it appears on DL and a valid CC. CC is okay as I don't have SO looking at that.

OR.

Should I just book the room on site and provide my DL and CC? In this case, the girl is in my car, so I'll need to remove all paperwork from glove compartment.

Still thinking what's the best way to book the room so that apart from the above I can leave without having to checkout at desk.

Anything else I should look for as I go about my first outcall. .

[DWinthrop]

Any feedback on this SB, says she travels to vbeach often from Charlottesville, maybe she checks out the RVA too! Thought I check and see if anyone has enjoyed!

https://www.seeking.com/messages/arc...9-7b9c7eec9291

That's your inbox.

[BStreet]

Any feedback on this SB, says she travels to vbeach often from Charlottesville, maybe she checks out the RVA too! Thought I check and see if anyone has enjoyed!

https://www.seeking.com/messages/arc...9-7b9c7eec9291

[RegularJoe1985]

What I don't like about such rooms is that there is much more opportunity for people to see who is going in and out. What I usually do in hotels with interior rooms is to check in, go out to my car and park it on the appropriate end of the hotel, and then use my room key to get through a side door. That way, I don't have to walk past the desk to get to the room. I am usually carrying a messenger bag and a large briefcase, so they can't tell what I have with me anyway.

That's a good point.

So since making my first outcall, I was wondering if.

Using Hotwire is okay since I need to provide name and address as it appears on DL and a valid CC. CC is okay as I don't have SO looking at that.

OR.

Should I just book the room on site and provide my DL and CC? In this case, the girl is in my car, so I'll need to remove all paperwork from glove compartment.

Still thinking what's the best way to book the room so that apart from the above I can leave without having to checkout at desk.

Anything else I should look for as I go about my first outcall. .

[DoggieFan]

They all have to ask for photo I'd of the person checking in, so don't check in with the girl. Ideally do so ahead of time. I like to check in ahead of time and then slide the girl the key while at lunch or drinks so she can go up before me and freshen up / change into her fuck clothes. Big caveat -- the nicer the hotel, the more likely they are to have video check out, which means if she turns on the TV, she can see your name. Take the batteries out of the remote and hide them.

Ideally, you find out her real name and book it in her name and have her check in (will need a credit or debit card for incidentals, but won't cost her a penny if you don't order pay per view or raid the mini bar).

If a front desk agent gives out guest information, you can sue them senseless. Just ask Erin Andrews, so I would not worry about that too much.

Seems like way too much trouble. My main concern with my LTSB was to make it easy for her to get up to my room & avoiding the front desk.

I stayed in the same hotel in a resort town, mid range hotel with a great suite, kitchen, sitting room with gas fireplace, king size separate bed room & bath. He named it our honeymoon suite!

I had a great relationship with the front desk. They'd let me check in as early as 8:30 am. My Baby was a coed with a live in BF so we'd meet for 3-8 hours during the day. We couldn't go out in public. I didn't want her parading her gorgeous little ass by the front desk. Then they'd check the cameras out of curiosity to see where she was going. I wasn't worried about her knowing who I was because we literally knew everything about each other.

Also, she appreciated having a key to come on the back door & avoiding thevwalk of shame when coming & especially going.

My pick up has a shelf in the front bumper, just above the license plate. Perfect place to leave her a room key.

An added bonus would be the anticipation when hearing her insert the key, open the door than literally hop over to the couch I was sitting on. She'd jump in my lap and plant a big kiss on me & say "what ya been doing" my answer was always the same, "not much, just thinking about you!" I'd always have a bottle or two of her favorite wine & lunch with dessert.

Miss her tons. We knew it had to eventually end. Still sucks though:

[LoVecchio]

I like the motels that have rooms accessible from outside so I don't need to bring any luggage in while checking whereas that looks strange when one is going inside a closed wall hotel without any luggage
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What I don't like about such rooms is that there is much more opportunity for people to see who is going in and out. What I usually do in hotels with interior rooms is to check in, go out to my car and park it on the appropriate end of the hotel, and then use my room key to get through a side door. That way, I don't have to walk past the desk to get to the room. I am usually carrying a messenger bag and a large briefcase, so they can't tell what I have with me anyway.

[DWinthrop]

OK, many of you SDs presumably have a reputation you care about, now and in the hereafter. What provisions have you made to have everything associated w / the bowl purged should you meet your maker in an untimely and unexpected way. I have a trusted colleague who has received a sealed envelope from me, w / instructions to open it and do what it says if I buy the farm.

I could care less what people think of me when I'm dead but I am curious what you have that needs a second person to get rid of? Pics and vids are encrypted and hidden so nobody accessing my computer would find them unless they knew where to look and I don't pay with anything traceable.

[FarFarAway]

OK, many of you SDs presumably have a reputation you care about, now and in the hereafter. What provisions have you made to have everything associated w / the bowl purged should you meet your maker in an untimely and unexpected way. I have a trusted colleague who has received a sealed envelope from me, w / instructions to open it and do what it says if I buy the farm.

[Ernest Ll]

Is there a way to ensure that TV can be turned on without name appearing on screen?

No. It either does or doesn't. I use my spotify on my phone to muffle screams and set mood music.

How do I get her to check in without her using her own credit / debit card?

A) Ideally she would have one. My ATF SB would book the room herself and I would include reimbursement in my allowance B) You still need her real name to put the room in her name since they will check her I'd, but I've done it where I'; ve called the hotel, said I was bringing someone in for an interview or a meeting and booked the room in her name, then I'd swing by the hotel and say I wanted to pay for the room for my "employee" or consultant. That way all she has to do is pick up the key.

[ThunderStick46]

I have been reading the posts on this site for a short while now and finally decided to jump in. I have been in the bowl in Detroit for a few years and have plenty to add here from my experiences. Currently, I have a small rotation of gals that I chat with and one that I see regularly. I go on and off SA depending on my mood and my wallet. One of the reasons that I decided now to speak up here (other than to add value to the site) is that I finally landed a unicorn. She is mid 30's single, busty, hot, has her own apartment and believe it or not no longer requires sugar from me. It's amazed me to no end but she loves to spend private time two or three times a week and she is financially independent. I now gift her stuff whenever I can. She doesn't want the obligations of a traditional relationship and is not into guys her age. More details to follow.

[RegularJoe1985]

They all have to ask for photo I'd of the person checking in, so don't check in with the girl. Ideally do so ahead of time. I like to check in ahead of time and then slide the girl the key while at lunch or drinks so she can go up before me and freshen up / change into her fuck clothes. Big caveat -- the nicer the hotel, the more likely they are to have video check out, which means if she turns on the TV, she can see your name. Take the batteries out of the remote and hide them.

Ideally, you find out her real name and book it in her name and have her check in (will need a credit or debit card for incidentals, but won't cost her a penny if you don't order pay per view or raid the mini bar).

If a front desk agent gives out guest information, you can sue them senseless. Just ask Erin Andrews, so I would not worry about that too much.

That is a nice information to take batteries out of remote. I was thinking of turning on the TV to muffle sound. Perhaps turn it on and then hide the batteries. Is there a way to ensure that TV can be turned on without name appearing on screen?

How do I get her to check in without her using her own credit / debit card?

I guess I've been going to incalls all this time I have no idea on how to do an outcall.

I like the motels that have rooms accessible from outside so I don't need to bring any luggage in while checking whereas that looks strange when one is going inside a closed wall hotel without any luggage.

Hotwire is good but it does not always have room at those kind of motels.

If I book myself on Hotwire, I have to give all details, but can use a vanilla card to pay for it. Do I not have to show that card while checking in? I don't have a problem of card statements etc. No S. O. Issues etc. But don't want all PII to be available at all places.