Sugar Daddy Sites

[Madaboutmax]

I agree two of the biggest risks SDs have with SBs is being blackmailed and dealing with a crazy scorned SB when the relationship ends or they feel they've been wronged.

Many escorts have migrated to Seeking . Com so the risks of being robbed or cash and dash associated with escorts is still there. There are examples of being blackmailed by escorts, but it is more common with SBs since they often have more access to your personal info.

The biggest risk for me in the bowl is the crazy psycho SBs. Many of these girls don't understand the competitive disadvantage they are at it the bowl, have never been rejected before and have unrealistic expectations of what they can demand in the bowl.

When I've rejected a hot young girl because I've found a better option they can go crazy and make crazy threats. In their anger, they may not think rationally and could be willing to put themselves at risk if needed to hurt me. A blackmailer is more rational and doesn't want to put themselves at risk and can be reasoned with.

My only concern with sugar babes is that they are not true professionals. This might be good until things work well, but I wonder whether the lack of professionalism might come and bit you in the ass once the relationship is over, or if the sugar babe is not happy about the treatment you are giving her. Any experience with sugar babes blackmailing you after the relationship is over? Or calling you to get more money or telling you "I'll spill the beans with your wife or girlfriend"?

[HollywoodGuy]

We appreciate you taking one for the team, HG. With the volumes you are running, I guess sticking your dick into a sweet, inexperienced, hot 18 year old college girl seems like work. Not sure if I'll ever get to that point. Not sure I want to. Personally, I still like the true NP's. I guess I'm just a neophyte.

It is more work. My current SB/GF was 18 and 2 weeks when I met her. But she was a wild child. Pretty low mileage overall but not a pay to play virgin. After a year she stills needs a little warming up to take it balls deep. But no complaints. Here are the 2 ppm virgins I am courting rn. One pretty cute, the other not so cute but with a true spinner body. Both have agreed to the T&C's. But it don't mean a thing if they don't take my bling.

[DogBert77]

I used to relish the chase to get a true NP. Not so much anymore.

We appreciate you taking one for the team, HG. With the volumes you are running, I guess sticking your dick into a sweet, inexperienced, hot 18 year old college girl seems like work. Not sure if I'll ever get to that point. Not sure I want to. Personally, I still like the true NP's. I guess I'm just a neophyte.

[BigBadNut]

I used to go bare. But after too many scares, I go covered. I dont really trust anyone anymore.

I did the math and figured post post that you had to. All these guys going BB are having to spend time at the free STD clinic and that's if you get lucky. I have had my share to not go bare now!

[HollywoodGuy]

Talking to another NP, freshman at CSUN. I used to relish the chase to get a true NP. Not so much anymore. Usually the sex isn't as great. The txting and messaging is a lot more extensive. Most of the deals fall through. But I used to think it was the holy grail. For me any hot 18-20 is just fine, just no heavy drama please.

[HollywoodGuy]

So I am taking a chance on a pepperdine freshman. A genuine NP looking for a first time experience. Lots of txting and planning required for this one. I am going to uber her to santa monica and go from there. She can think its a date. But for me its going to be an M&G. If she isn't enamored, then off she goes back to malibu.

But we already discussed the FC and she seems "excited". Her words. Hope she doesn't flake, as the date is like 10 days away. Hit her up her first day on the site. But I can see she logs on a lot. She could be off the site before I even get to see her. Meaning she is either long gone due to cold feet, or maybe just gets frustrated with the site, but not me. Lots of variables to contend with.

[HollywoodGuy]

HWGuy wins the SA award for most successful downloads of all time. Damn I hope you keep a scrap book!

A) You should teach a course (is there still a Learning ANNEX?

B) Just curious are you a rain coat or BB kind of player? If I may ask when and how you determine to cover up or go BB?

I used to go bare. But after too many scares, I go covered. I dont really trust anyone anymore.

[BigBadNut]

My average over the years has been 1 out of 30 girls makes it to LTR status.

HWGuy wins the SA award for most successful downloads of all time. Damn I hope you keep a scrap book!

A) You should teach a course (is there still a Learning ANNEX?

B) Just curious are you a rain coat or BB kind of player? If I may ask when and how you determine to cover up or go BB?

[HollywoodGuy]

There's a real disconnect between the marketing of SA and the reality. I've been on reddit and it was absolutely mind-blowing. All it is is girls snipping and sabotaging each other:

Girl 1: well all I do is a BJ once in a while and I get $400 every week.

Girl 2: giiiirl!, you're getting played! I get $1000 every week and all we do is shop and eat dinner.

Girl 3: you two are losers. I get a new BMW every single week and all I do is send him 1 text message per day.

And on, and on.

Meanwhile, all the guys are going: I pay $150 to maybe $300 for FS, multi-hours. I have no idea what all them bitches are talking about.

Every girl has a one time story of some guy they (or a friend, or some girl they read about online) played and got lucky. I know of a few crazy true stories myself. But even the HEF only paid his girls 2k a month plus room and board. Which is a pretty hefty load (no pun intended) when you are talking about a dozen girls at a time. Not counting his x wife and two kids in that equation.

[HollywoodGuy]

Long term arrangements are very, very rare. Once you've had a girl once or twice, the appeal is diminishing very rapidly. In my experience less than 10% of all the girls you will meet will go beyond 1 month or a couple of meets. It takes an amazing gem to make it to the 6 or 12 months mark. As a paying customer your requirements will be higher for each meeting and you'll always wonder who else you can you meet with your hard-earned money (hey, a new toy!).

My average over the years has been 1 out of 30 girls makes it to LTR status.

[DogBert77]

There's a real disconnect between the marketing of SA and the reality.

Word. I don't think it's accidental. I think SA has two motivations: (1) avoid getting shut down; and (2) getting the girls on the site. They know if the girls are there, the paying members (men) will show up.

Really, our interests are aligned with SA on this. I don't want them to get shut down (and I don't think it's at all likely). And I do want the girls there, lots of them.

The problem is that for (1) SA has to pump out the marketing bullshit that it is a "dating" site, so naturally some girls show up expecting that. That is not that big a problem, just need to educate those girls on how the world works. I am happy to educate them with my dick. (2) is a bigger problem, because to get the girls on the site, they inflate their financial expectations enormously. Educating the girls about market prices is harder work and dicier.

But the combination of (1) and (2) has resulted in an absolute metric shit ton of tasty young girls on the site, so even though it makes our work harder, it's not all bad.

[NewLit]

My only concern with sugar babes is that they are not true professionals. This might be good until things work well, but I wonder whether the lack of professionalism might come and bit you in the ass once the relationship is over, or if the sugar babe is not happy about the treatment you are giving her. Any experience with sugar babes blackmailing you after the relationship is over? Or calling you to get more money or telling you "I'll spill the beans with your wife or girlfriend"?

[EvilTmp]

This was the biggest surprise to me about SA. If you believe the bullshit the site pumps out, or the crap that gets posted on Reddit, you think that you have to commit to a monthly payroll. Absolutely nothing could be further from the truth. I would say it's a small percentage who are even looking for that, and even fewer who get it. The vast majority of girls are fine with PPM. Some of them prefer more of a "dating" interaction, where you don't give them cash but take them places and give them gifts. I prefer the simplicity of PPM, and am pretty sure that it is cheaper in the end.

The trick, the art, and in my opinion, part of the fun of the whole deal, is maneuvering them to the FC without acknowledging the P4 P aspect any more than you have to. This allows you to access girls who don't want to think of themselves as prostitutes. Done correctly, it enables you to nail a hot young girl who is very low mileage, trying really hard to make you feel good and who is not in a hurry. I just don't know where else I can get that.

There's a real disconnect between the marketing of SA and the reality. I've been on reddit and it was absolutely mind-blowing. All it is is girls snipping and sabotaging each other:

Girl 1: well all I do is a BJ once in a while and I get $400 every week.

Girl 2: giiiirl!, you're getting played! I get $1000 every week and all we do is shop and eat dinner.

Girl 3: you two are losers. I get a new BMW every single week and all I do is send him 1 text message per day.

And on, and on.

Meanwhile, all the guys are going: I pay $150 to maybe $300 for FS, multi-hours. I have no idea what all them bitches are talking about.

[DogBert77]

Long term arrangements are very, very rare...... In my experience less than 10% of all the girls you will meet will go beyond 1 month or a couple of meets. It takes an amazing gem to make it to the 6 or 12 months mark.

This was the biggest surprise to me about SA. If you believe the bullshit the site pumps out, or the crap that gets posted on Reddit, you think that you have to commit to a monthly payroll. Absolutely nothing could be further from the truth. I would say it's a small percentage who are even looking for that, and even fewer who get it. The vast majority of girls are fine with PPM. Some of them prefer more of a "dating" interaction, where you don't give them cash but take them places and give them gifts. I prefer the simplicity of PPM, and am pretty sure that it is cheaper in the end.

The trick, the art, and in my opinion, part of the fun of the whole deal, is maneuvering them to the FC without acknowledging the P4 P aspect any more than you have to. This allows you to access girls who don't want to think of themselves as prostitutes. Done correctly, it enables you to nail a hot young girl who is very low mileage, trying really hard to make you feel good and who is not in a hurry. I just don't know where else I can get that.

[EvilTmp]

I am very interested in having a sugar baby, or a few, but I am wary of it because with professionals, you basically make the decision that you want to go on a date, it costs a certain amount of money, and it's over. With a sugar baby, it seems like it is more of a long term arrangement in which you have to set aside a certain amount of money per month specifically, rather than going on dates as you feel like it.

Alas, I am very interested in the experience of having a sugar baby, as it seems to be a much safer arrangement than seeing professionals, and the nuances of it are quite appealing.

Long term arrangements are very, very rare. Once you've had a girl once or twice, the appeal is diminishing very rapidly. In my experience less than 10% of all the girls you will meet will go beyond 1 month or a couple of meets. It takes an amazing gem to make it to the 6 or 12 months mark. As a paying customer your requirements will be higher for each meeting and you'll always wonder who else you can you meet with your hard-earned money (hey, a new toy!).