"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**RegularJoe1985** · 03-13-19 07:56

Hello all,

Trying to dip my toes in SB field, have mostly been on t3 r etc.

One SB cannot host so was wondering if I pay extra for place or is it included in the support I give her?

I'm thinking of letting her get the place on her I'd and CC etc. Any issues with that?

Thanks,

**DogBert77** · 03-13-19 02:07

Originally Posted by KevinCalormis [View Original Post]

I would never answer the door for a ***** after they have left. No reason for them to be there. Their job is done.

And if an SB pulled that on me without agreeing to a price, I'd be tempted to get my original payment back and send her on her way. These girls don't have pimps waiting around the corner, they can't act like that.

I did think about not opening the door, but opened it because (I) as you pointed out, I was pretty sure she didn't have a pimp around the corner; and (ii) it had actually been a pretty friendly encounter, didn't really have anything to fear. But you make a good point.

Oh well. I have a date with one of my favorites tomorrow night. Bareback all the way, hot, great service, fun girl, she handles the hotel reservation. And she has never, ever bitched about the donation, never asked for cash, never mentioned it. There's a lot of reasons she's a favorite. Did I mention the great rack?

**FarFarAway** · 03-13-19 01:14

Originally Posted by WPGuy [View Original Post]

I appreciate your report. I had a girl attempt to blackmail me 2 weeks ago out here. Claimed she had taken pics and had my plate number. When I asked for proof, nothing, just bitching and more threats. Kinda got me scared a bit, but had great new date with real sb today and already a second round scheduled for next week. We all have to take care; the scammers are out there!

Like so many such threats, it's best to have offense and defense at the ready. Operational security, a fake plate, or no plate, so you know a statement like hers is a bluff. Just like a girl who says you knocked her up. The standard response must be 'couldn't be me, I was snipped years ago' even if that isn't so, *and* you BB'd her. For those who want to extort claiming to 'know your wife' (yes, I have had a dim bulb say that), the standard response must be 'well, honey, cheating isn't the nicest thing I've ever done, but it's not against the law. However, extortion, amply evidenced in the texts you've sent me (screenshot for emphasis) is a felony. ' it should send her away w / her tail between her legs.

**BlueFalcon123** · 03-13-19 01:07

Originally Posted by CoolPix [View Original Post]

I can't wait for your report GD, please, TOFTT! I'd like to see the rest of her body. Looks like she's got a nice rack. I'm generally not into short hair but I would be intrigued by her reaction to a real dick in her kitty.

Her ad on massage republic:

https://massagerepublic.com/female-e...nia/nova-white

Body is nice. Not spinner, but not bbw. $ for hh. I can say, I throughly enjoyed her mic skills. Gives you access to whole body. I would repeat just for the BBBJ. CoF and Cim is fine with her. She is loving dick. Said she is craving it more and more now. Does doubles with Pixie. She's on the same site.

**BlueFalcon123** · 03-13-19 00:59

Originally Posted by GeechieDan [View Original Post]

Yep, she's good to go! Definitely a keeper.

If she likes you, BB is fine, just no CIP. Have fun! I know I did.

**ErkTheOne** · 03-12-19 23:21

Originally Posted by EasyeOne [View Original Post]

Anybody else have experience with Zara? Definitely recommended, right to business, good time with cover but BBBJ.

https://www.seeking.com/member/ea886...d-46b326cc6db5.

Agree completely, she is good to go and a lot fun. Very sexy. Treat her well.

**WPGuy** · 03-12-19 23:05

Originally Posted by DogBert77 [View Original Post]

Today I made first trip to FC with new (to me) SB. We had been texting a while and had one M&G for coffee last week. This meet was straight to hotel. She was 114 pounds and 5'6, 22 years old. Very nice looking girl, I would say 9 body and 7 face. As with most of my SB's, no direct discussion of allowance prior to FC, although there was definitely an expectation of sugar. To my mind, if they don't negotiate cash amount before going to FC, they are unlikely to be a true pro and thus more likely to be the kind of SB I like.

Get to FC, very good experience. I would give her a 9 on attitude and maybe a 7. 5 on skills. DFK, DATY, BBJ, covered FS. No rush. I like to raw dog the ones I think are low volume, but wanted to cover up for her because I suspected she might be a bit popular. We talk about meeting up next week but do not set a firm date. I was up for a repeat mostly because I really loved her body, but she gave off sort of a semi-pro vibe so I didn't consider her to have much long term potential. I tuck cash into her purse and off she goes.

She is back at the door about a minute later asking for more cash. (I don't like to talk numbers on here because I don't live in Richmond. I am in a high cost major metropolitan area and everything costs more here. If I include the actual numbers this thread will just devolve into a lot of people telling me I overpaid, how much (little) they pay, etc. That is not where I a want to go with this.) I offer a standard cash donation, which I had given her. I believe it to be on the low end of the local range, but it is at least in the local range, not way below it. She says "we agreed" to 2 x what I gave her. I pointed out, correctly, that we had not had any discussion of amount prior to FC. She says she "never does it" for less than 2 x what I gave her (another sign of someone with more practice at this than I really like). I refused to hand over any more cash and said I guessed we wouldn't be meeting next week, and she took off.

My first thought was she just got me mixed up with some other dude who was offering 2 x. But something very similar happened to me with a different girl a couple of weeks ago. So now I am wondering if this is some sort of an angle that they have cooked to play us with. Maybe they swap tips on their secret SB forum on how to do this. You know, screw first and then try to guilt the guy out of more cash because "we agreed. " If it is a plan like that, it seems pretty stupid to me. I already banged her, and enjoyed her thoroughly. While I would be willing to see her again for my standard donation, I'm not too bothered by it and definitely not willing to pay 2 x. So why would anyone cough up more money after the deed? Curious as to other guys experience with this sort of thing.

I appreciate your report. I had a girl attempt to blackmail me 2 weeks ago out here. Claimed she had taken pics and had my plate number. When I asked for proof, nothing, just bitching and more threats. Kinda got me scared a bit, but had great new date with real sb today and already a second round scheduled for next week. We all have to take care; the scammers are out there!

**DWinthrop** · 03-12-19 21:41

I would never answer the door for a ***** after they have left. No reason for them to be there. Their job is done.

And if an SB pulled that on me without agreeing to a price, I'd be tempted to get my original payment back and send her on her way. These girls don't have pimps waiting around the corner, they can't act like that.

**DogBert77** · 03-12-19 20:28

Today I made first trip to FC with new (to me) SB. We had been texting a while and had one M&G for coffee last week. This meet was straight to hotel. She was 114 pounds and 5'6, 22 years old. Very nice looking girl, I would say 9 body and 7 face. As with most of my SB's, no direct discussion of allowance prior to FC, although there was definitely an expectation of sugar. To my mind, if they don't negotiate cash amount before going to FC, they are unlikely to be a true pro and thus more likely to be the kind of SB I like.

Get to FC, very good experience. I would give her a 9 on attitude and maybe a 7. 5 on skills. DFK, DATY, BBJ, covered FS. No rush. I like to raw dog the ones I think are low volume, but wanted to cover up for her because I suspected she might be a bit popular. We talk about meeting up next week but do not set a firm date. I was up for a repeat mostly because I really loved her body, but she gave off sort of a semi-pro vibe so I didn't consider her to have much long term potential. I tuck cash into her purse and off she goes.

She is back at the door about a minute later asking for more cash. (I don't like to talk numbers on here because I don't live in Richmond. I am in a high cost major metropolitan area and everything costs more here. If I include the actual numbers this thread will just devolve into a lot of people telling me I overpaid, how much (little) they pay, etc. That is not where I a want to go with this.) I offer a standard cash donation, which I had given her. I believe it to be on the low end of the local range, but it is at least in the local range, not way below it. She says "we agreed" to 2 x what I gave her. I pointed out, correctly, that we had not had any discussion of amount prior to FC. She says she "never does it" for less than 2 x what I gave her (another sign of someone with more practice at this than I really like). I refused to hand over any more cash and said I guessed we wouldn't be meeting next week, and she took off.

My first thought was she just got me mixed up with some other dude who was offering 2 x. But something very similar happened to me with a different girl a couple of weeks ago. So now I am wondering if this is some sort of an angle that they have cooked to play us with. Maybe they swap tips on their secret SB forum on how to do this. You know, screw first and then try to guilt the guy out of more cash because "we agreed. " If it is a plan like that, it seems pretty stupid to me. I already banged her, and enjoyed her thoroughly. While I would be willing to see her again for my standard donation, I'm not too bothered by it and definitely not willing to pay 2 x. So why would anyone cough up more money after the deed? Curious as to other guys experience with this sort of thing.

**Zcochran00** · 03-12-19 19:51

Originally Posted by FarFarAway [View Original Post]

An earlier poster alerted us all to the way to read some messages in your SA inbox even when you don't have a paid membership. I will relate my experience not on Windows.

I am using a Mac running OSX Sierra 10.12. 6. I am using Epic Version 71.0. 3579.98, the newest. I get into the SA message window which has an "Upgrade to read". I control-clik and get a dialog that has Inspect at the bottom, which I select. The window splits. I click Network at the top. The window clears and there is a message concerning using command are to reload. I do that. There are lots of different file descriptors in the left-most column, and the right-most column has green bars. The first really short green bar on the right usually marks the inbox on the left. Or, you can just scan your eyes down column 1 to find it. Click on Inbox, and I get a string that begins with brackets. On a few occasions lately, I have failed to get anything at this stage. I have found my only recourse is to start the process all over, closing the window that was created when I did the Inspect command.

Now I have that string. Unfortunately, unlike the OP who was on a Windows system, it doesn't break down in an easily readable fashion. I click in the window that the string is in and do a search for 'body'. There are usually quite a few occurrences (including her body type). What you are looking for is one that says 'original body'. The way that search function works, the searched-for term shows up on the right-hand side of that window, and what you want follows the term body. So, you either need to click on body and use your arrow keys to slide to the right, or if you have a touchpad, you can do that easier. That's it. You should see her message, there will be little weird character things in there that are likely emojis and the like, but you can definitely suss out what she's saying.

I am not totally sure about situations where she has put 2 messages in the inbox, it seems like I have only been able to find the latest one. I recall when conversing in the thread with the OP about what I got, he indicated that the string in that window was a particular format, and that I could cut it out and put it into another program made to read that format, and it would be all pretty and readable. I haven't done that.

As the person who wrote the original tip:

The difference probably isn't the OS, it's what browser you're using. It looks like "Epic Browser" is a fork of Chrome / Chromium, so the DevTools should exist and I'd expect them to be similar to what I described. But, yeah, it may be possible it doesn't have an "object tree" view of the retrieved response, just the "raw JSON string" view.

Also, depending on timing, you may have opened up the DevTools _after_ the "Inbox" network request finished, in which case it might not show up in the list. Don't close the DevTools window here. Just hitting F5 to refresh that conversation page should re-request all the data, and the "Inbox" request item should appear in that DevTools list.

All the messages _should_ be in that response. There's a copy of the latest one by itself, and then _all_ of the messages later on.

**EasyeOne** · 03-12-19 18:25

Originally Posted by GeechieDan [View Original Post]

Yep, she's good to go! Definitely a keeper.

Is she the Asian you mentioned a while back?? LOL.

**Geechie Dan** · 03-12-19 18:14

Originally Posted by EasyeOne [View Original Post]

Anybody else have experience with Zara? Definitely recommended, right to business, good time with cover but BBBJ.

https://www.seeking.com/member/ea886...d-46b326cc6db5

Yep, she's good to go! Definitely a keeper.

**EasyeOne** · 03-12-19 17:55

Anybody else have experience with Zara? Definitely recommended, right to business, good time with cover but BBBJ.

https://www.seeking.com/member/ea886...d-46b326cc6db5

**FarFarAway** · 03-12-19 15:09

I definitely appreciate that extensive treatise from bowl buddy Tom. A well-known SD out on the west coast approaches his girls (all young and inexperienced) with an offer for a 'date' at 100, which he promises includes only some kissing and a HJ. He gets them to come to him, no SO to worry about, and his experience is that a significant fraction of girls will go all the way without further $ request. He is almost always one and done w / his girls, so keep that in mind.

**FarFarAway** · 03-12-19 15:05

An earlier poster alerted us all to the way to read some messages in your SA inbox even when you don't have a paid membership. I will relate my experience not on Windows.

I am using a Mac running OSX Sierra 10.12. 6. I am using Epic Version 71.0. 3579.98, the newest. I get into the SA message window which has an "Upgrade to read". I control-clik and get a dialog that has Inspect at the bottom, which I select. The window splits. I click Network at the top. The window clears and there is a message concerning using command are to reload. I do that. There are lots of different file descriptors in the left-most column, and the right-most column has green bars. The first really short green bar on the right usually marks the inbox on the left. Or, you can just scan your eyes down column 1 to find it. Click on Inbox, and I get a string that begins with brackets. On a few occasions lately, I have failed to get anything at this stage. I have found my only recourse is to start the process all over, closing the window that was created when I did the Inspect command.

Now I have that string. Unfortunately, unlike the OP who was on a Windows system, it doesn't break down in an easily readable fashion. I click in the window that the string is in and do a search for 'body'. There are usually quite a few occurrences (including her body type). What you are looking for is one that says 'original body'. The way that search function works, the searched-for term shows up on the right-hand side of that window, and what you want follows the term body. So, you either need to click on body and use your arrow keys to slide to the right, or if you have a touchpad, you can do that easier. That's it. You should see her message, there will be little weird character things in there that are likely emojis and the like, but you can definitely suss out what she's saying.

I am not totally sure about situations where she has put 2 messages in the inbox, it seems like I have only been able to find the latest one. I recall when conversing in the thread with the OP about what I got, he indicated that the string in that window was a particular format, and that I could cut it out and put it into another program made to read that format, and it would be all pretty and readable. I haven't done that.