Massage Parlor Reports

**Incognito22** · 03-04-19 12:23

Wiregrass:

According to NYP article I posted:

According to Robert Kraft's lawyer:

There's also no proof in the affidavit that he solicited anything from the women. It is possible that this could have been a legal and consensual act between adults and there does not seem to be evidence to prove otherwise. So the facts supporting a misdemeanor charge of solicitation really don't jump out at you.

Second, the video was probably not legally obtained, the police seemed to ignore the necessity requirement for such an intrusive measure like planting a camera in the premises. (The law stipulates police should only seek warrants for surveillance cameras if no other evidence is available to support their case, so Kraft's lawyers could argue the video footage is not legal and an invasion of privacy).

And third, I doubt the traffic stop was legal either. So the evidence will likely be suppressed (by Kraft's legal team) if there is ever a trial.

They did not have the evidence required to legally install the camera's. Second the way they identified the people in the tape was to pull them over for fake traffic violations then sweat them into confessing.

In short, this was illegal surveillance and if the John's did not incriminate themselves uncle LEO would have no real case. Do not talk to the police. Fair warning though, if they read you your rights, they will hold you the maximum time they legally can to sweat a confession out of you. If they have arrested you, you'll have to think about how long you can afford to spend in holding. Then offer to sign a confession written by the cop, if they agree in writing to release you without bond if you sign. Then you can always later use that to argue they colluded the confession out of you. Also, you can use a threat to seize your property as compulsion to sign a confession. This varies state to state though.

**HapaBoy86** · 03-03-19 23:33

Originally Posted by Wiregrass [View Original Post]

I've copied (and reposted it here) this question and answer. I found it on the Huntsville, AL. Massage board. I'm not vouching for its correctness, just saying.

Still not sure how they identified these guys. Were they caught in a sting, or was the place keeping records?

Florida has what is called "sneak and peek" warrants which allow infiltration and covert placement of video cameras. Reading what available press found, it seems there was an evacuation called in the plaza where the spa is located over a "suspicious package" (placed there by LEO). While all businesses were cleared, under the guise of a search of all establishments to clear the area the cameras were placed. I should there has been a history of less obvious methods of placing cameras as well, including after-hours infiltration.

Once cameras were in place, it was a simple matter of pulling people over after seeing them exit the establishment under whatever pretense needed. Their identities could then be established and recorded for future cross-reference against video evidence.

Just like the Seattle / Bellevue, the le took pics of there license plates and got there names and addies through dmv records.

**Wiregrass** · 03-03-19 20:15

I've copied (and reposted it here) this question and answer. I found it on the Huntsville, AL. Massage board. I'm not vouching for its correctness, just saying.

Still not sure how they identified these guys. Were they caught in a sting, or was the place keeping records?

Florida has what is called "sneak and peek" warrants which allow infiltration and covert placement of video cameras. Reading what available press found, it seems there was an evacuation called in the plaza where the spa is located over a "suspicious package" (placed there by LEO). While all businesses were cleared, under the guise of a search of all establishments to clear the area the cameras were placed. I should there has been a history of less obvious methods of placing cameras as well, including after-hours infiltration.

Once cameras were in place, it was a simple matter of pulling people over after seeing them exit the establishment under whatever pretense needed. Their identities could then be established and recorded for future cross-reference against video evidence.

**PhantomPhx69** · 03-03-19 15:59

Originally Posted by WallyWally [View Original Post]

First off f&c fulklk name is Fish & Chips. LOL Not that hard to find it off the 405 and westminster.

Springdale.

**TwoBlueBalls** · 03-03-19 14:39

Originally Posted by MrSunnyHills [View Original Post]

I realize that it is too short to use the search, but if you read even just a handful of pages back you'll find it.

Any reason you OC mongers keep referring to this place as the business close by? Can any regulars confirm if business back to normal?

**Wally Wally** · 03-02-19 21:51

First off f&c fulklk name is Fish & Chips. LOL Not that hard to find it off the 405 and westminster. Just follow the herpes.

Been going to places with dresses. Always enjoy that more then jeans. Can just be HJ place dpoesnt need to do everything. Vy massage and a few other places are ok. Need to go on the hunt again for new places. I get msgs about south county. There are a few over priced FS places and the others just do limited handys. Not really worth stopping for unless there is one hiding. Fairveiw over priced and crowded. Busted the whole building years back so I avoid it. LFBC did do ok last time I went. Stopped by accident on way to san diego. Got a little chunk short blonde asian. A bit older but a nice big ass that I like lots. Big tits too. She changed her clothes before she came into room that were way looser and shorter. They must be slow since she was so good to me.

San diego has lots of places that are good.

**AidanJ329** · 03-02-19 20:12

It's been a while, but I do have two reviews for ya gents.

Mimosa.

I used to frequent this place until it was placed under new management, girls used to be bombshells like the honey ones but now they are more on the older side which I don't mind and most of them have bolt ons. Place charged. 40 hhr and prices vary on he, got the receptionist (might've been the only girl there) a lot of gut and didn't get fully naked. Nice D cups I think. Service felt robotic but there might be a hidden gem so I might try again.

Place by honey not sure of the name but the girls who try to call you in.

So I was going to let lady luck take the wheel and give honey another chance as Megan was not worth the bill. But on my way into the plaza this asian provider waved at me to come in. First red flag she locked the door behind me. Second red flag only one room and third when it came time for fun she wanted a tip first. 4 hhr 1. 6 FS (which I talked her down but YMMV) I don't think I will be visiting this place again as it's very risky.

**MrSunnyHills** · 03-02-19 08:22

I realize that it is too short to use the search, but if you read even just a handful of pages back you'll find it.

Originally Posted by AmongP [View Original Post]

Can anyone PM the full name of F&C, trying to visit today.

**CoolDude714** · 03-02-19 05:01

Originally Posted by Godumbine [View Original Post]

I go there occasionally for foot fetish at 90/ hhr (40 tip) with Samantha. I used to go with Isabel regularly but she really upcharges for things like fully nude. 100/ hhr for nuru is still the case. Their IG is jennifertran888.

That nuru better come with a happy ending LOL. I never got a nuru massage, so I'm planning my trip soon. Hopefully all goes well.

**MisterTwinkies** · 03-01-19 17:19

Where is this Honey Spa II? Is it the one on the same building in Fair Dr?

**Godumbine** · 03-01-19 15:23

Originally Posted by CoolDude714 [View Original Post]

Do people still go to the Body Care Center? Haven't heard a report about it in months. I wonder if the nuru rate is still $100.

I go there occasionally for foot fetish at 90/ hhr (40 tip) with Samantha. I used to go with Isabel regularly but she really upcharges for things like fully nude. 100/ hhr for nuru is still the case. Their IG is jennifertran888.

**OakOak22** · 03-01-19 13:33

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**BoulderBoy** · 03-01-19 10:01

Originally Posted by SaltyDog [View Original Post]

So you went there? What happened? Interesting description of a gal with hairy eyebrows but give it up man.

I'm actually a part-time lurker. I'll go around and see if I like talent even when my pockets are empty so that I can plan forward, so no, I haven't experienced Lila Spa. That's why I'm asking.

**Incognito22** · 03-01-19 09:49

Originally Posted by FlipOnOver [View Original Post]

They went to a judge and got a warrant to install survailence. How they got them in there is a mystery so far. Maybe they snuck in over night. Maybe they posed as customers and put them in the room in those few minutes before the provider came into the room.

They faked a bomb scare

A2

NYPOST actually did a good write up that gives me some hope.

Why did they allow these women to continue to be victimized for 9 months.

The John's had nothing to do with Trafficking. It is nice to see someone questioning cops labeling everything 'Trafficking' so they skim low risk overtime.

The cops failed to follow the law undermining their own cases to embarrass men who were doing nothing more than paying for sex. That should be legalized, taxed and regulated like weed.

I hope Kraft makes an example of them when they have to drop the charges and sues the shit out of them for defamation.

https://nypost.com/2019/02/28/how-pa...titution-case/